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Why do conservatives always say socialism doesn't work when we we have a debt based central bank economic system that historically always leads to debt slavery and economic collapse like what happened in Babylon, Solonian crisis Greece and Late Rome?
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Posting a thread with an AI generated meme should cause your computer to explode in your face killing you instantly
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>>538319338
>Heh, communism never ever works!
>STOP TALKING ABOUT OUR DEBT PARASITE SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T WORK GOY
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>>538319233
Based knower
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>>538319574
BILLIONS MUST KNOW
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>>538319233
The latter half of the 20th century was dominated by a conflict known as the cold war where Capitalism as represented by the United States of America and Communism as represented by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics competed in Scientific, Military, Economic and even sports competition for domination, and Capitalism was the clear winner as the Soviets collapsed.
If Socialism/Communism collapsed in the 20th century. And you're implying Capitalism is next on the chopping block. What is the next viable system of economic organization and what is your proof
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>>538319233
>Why do conservatives always say
Most adult talk is the same as baby talk. Its about establishing comfort not solving problems.
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>>538319233
Corporate rats have one goal, to exploit the native population as much as possible and they sometimes do that by fooling the people into fighting against social services which is what social prosperity is correlated to.
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>>538319963
>The latter half of the 20th century was dominated by a conflict known as the cold war where Capitalism as represented by the United States of America and Communism

Post WW2/60s oversimplification. There were many competing currents in Socialism for reform of capitalism, and even the biggest proponents of capitalism like Adam Smith and Frederick Bastiat would be disgusted by the state backed financial capitalism octopus we have today

>Socialism/Communism collapsed in the 20th century. And you're implying Capitalism is next on the chopping block. What is the next viable system of economic organization and what is your proof
We already have had it. It's called Distributism and productive credit creation (Hilaire Belloc, Arthur Pl
enty, G. K. Chesterton, Gottfried Feder) and it's how the 3rd Reich and postwar Japan economically organised themselves
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>>538320157
This
Taxes are only a modestly effective tool as well. We need actual regulation, improved worker rights/benefits, and enforcement of anti-trust laws.
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>>538319233

1: Because actual socialism, IE communism, IE the abolition of private property doesn't work and leads to totalitarian tyranny.

2: Because we have a debt based central bank economic system and all the half assed champagne socialists want fake socialism which simply maintains this system while implementing more taxes and throwing it at the government for more social program grift that invariable turns into a corrupt scheme to defraud the public through NGOs and lobbyist connected government contractors.

The solution is to get rid of the debt based currency not giving the government more power.
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>>538319233
LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjjMhdFPJ1s&list=RDYjjMhdFPJ1s&start_radio=1
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>>538320376
>We need actual regulation, improved worker rights/benefits, and enforcement of anti-trust laws.
That nust leads to the same system of central planner slavery

https://files.catbox.moe/ikyyk2.mp4
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>>538320432
The ABOLITION of private property doesn't work, but the CONFISCATION and REDISTRIBUTION of private property, and especially the cancellation of debt and the return of assets acquired through debt and asset stripping, DOES work and has happened multiple times throughout history
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>>538319233
>>538319426
The central bank process is essentially 90% of communizing a country
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>>538320741
>but the CONFISCATION and REDISTRIBUTION of private property, and especially the cancellation of debt and the return of assets acquired through debt and asset stripping, DOES work

Yeah we know central banking works, that's a very bad thing for the rest of us.
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>>538320202
Given how short lived Tojo's Japan and Hitler's Germany were it seems like an incredibly unstable form of government. The lack of contemporary countries adapting this model is a strike against it
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>Why do conservatives say socialism doesn't work
The brass tax of it is you have to trick people to put ambition and labor into society if you want it to continue. Socialist have no carrot to do this. In fact they actively tell people not to do that by putting barriers between them and success. This breeds lazy people who do the bare minimum to produce success. If everyone does the bare minimum not enough supply is produced so then rationing needs to be instituted to equitably distribute the existing supply. This lowers the quality of life for everyone. Capitalism is the carrot for people to produce excess labor that everyone benefits from. You might need to create arbitrary debt to sustain it, but books not balancing is better than supply not balancing.



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