>cool down your roomWhat's so hard about it for euro minds to comprehend?
>>538322642Demented communist freaks can't think properly, they are brainwashed specifically for that purpose.
>>538322642The heatwave is already over.
>>538322642uses too much electricity and leaks CFC's or something, also a symbol of fascism because BBC said so or something
>>538322642Apparently once temps reach 37~ and 100% humidity you just fucking die because that's your body temp and you can only regulate body heat by way of letting sweat dissipate to cooler air
>>538322642people have more sex when its hot, thats why your country is dying, Kim Lee Yoon.
>>5383226423 day heatwave is over dudenobody cares about ac anymore
>>538322642>>>5383227485-7 days out of 365. A week out of 52 weeks.I probably wouldn't have gotten one either if I lived there.
The cost of the energy. Most people can afford at least one or two these window units that will cool a large living room, but they can't afford to run them all day, or they get an astronomical electricity bill.Germans rightfully see AC as a waste of money because it's rare for them to experience temperatures higher than 30ºC.I've got two of these portable ACs but rarely run them unless the heat gets pretty bad, and only in the hottest hours of the day or if I've got visitors.
I like to put the temperature at 50 degrees and wrap blankets around me only exposing my nose.
>>538322642>o-oh nooooo I’m going to pay tens of thousands of dollars to buy an install a central ac unit plus extras of hundreds in electrical bill fees because of a teensy weensy 3 day heat wave
>>538322748I didn't mean to quote you. My screen sucks. Enjoy better weather fren!
>>538322884lmao eat shit europoor
>>538322642I don't get this sentiment. Most of the people who live in new houses own one, and people who live in old houses don't need one, because they have thick, stone walls and the interiors of their houses never reach more than 25C.
>>538322834I run mine all day because electricity is included in my rent
>>538322642>66
>>538322642Real gooks are actually terrified of these things, unlike anyone else (except maybe other asians). Northern western Europe's power grid just can't cope with everyone having them so their politicians rationalize it as fighting the climate change or whatever instead of trying to fix it. Apparently the same is true in New York so Amerikwans really shouldn't be smug about it.
>>538322748There's another coming
>>538322974Yeah, this is exactly what I wanted to get at. This is exactly why North Americans pay such high rent prices.Utilities being included in your rent means that if they have to pay your electricity, water and other utilities they'll have to overcharge you for them into oblivion.You may as well use it because you're gonna be forced to pay for it in much higher rent prices. Europeans get to choose if they want to pay for AC or not, for you, it's mandatory.
>>538322642REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT!IT CAUSES GLOBAL WARMING!!!
>>538322940I think you’re just mad that I don’t need to spend all that money because I don’t live in somewhere like the SW ie Satan’s ballsack
>>538322979It's fahrenheit, about 18 C°
>>538323074In New York, it's less about the power grid and more about the shit-skin commie muslim mayor trying to pretend this is something that will unfuck their absolutely death-spiraling budget.It won't, it's just something to keep people thinking that he's actually going to fix anythingPersonally, I wish he'd just make 'rape day' because everyone there that supports his ass deserves to be raped.
>>538323094No i got to choose when I signed the lease thing if I wanted it included or not. I take hour long showers and have a bunch of shit running 24/7 anyways its pretty sweet
get off our board ziggerr
>>538322642Its just crazy eurocucks don't buy portable or window a/c units. I have central a/c in my house. I live in southern New Mexico so its a necessity. I also have a portable a/c in the bedroom I use at night when I sleep. I'd rather have a higher electric bill than suffer.
>>538323223Do you seriously believe that utilities being included doesn't affect your rent price?That your landlord is paying those bills for you out of the goodness of his heart?
>>538322642My AC is old and only lowers temperatures to 73 f.
Stop all hate
>>538322748freakin 21 degress tops tommorow, almost heater time.
>>538323210Idk a lot of states and the power companies recommend setting your thermostat at XX° to lower your power bill and reduce strain on the grid. Along with other recommendations like insulating your attic and turning off fans when not home.
Average Age of Heatwave deaths in Europe consistently identifies people aged 65 and over as the demographic with the highest mortality rates and the largest share of deaths. Broke Boomers dropping dead...is a good thing for Europe.Amazing how low-IQ these AC-trolls are!
>>538323485>insulating your atticI recommend turning it into an oven in case of an Anne Frank scenario
>>538322833I actually needed a jumper yesterday kek
>>538323584I think there's a schism in the way Americans and Euros see it. To an American, a senior citizen dying from heat is seen as avoidable. To Euros, I think they see it as natural. That it's just the way it is, if it's hot out and you've reached an age where your biology can't tolerate the natural world then it's tragic but expected.
>>538323712We have too many old people anyway, prolonging demented 90 year olds to 100 seems cruel
>>538323094No, most people don't have utilities included in their rent, and it's not expensive to run electric shit here. Problem with Europe is you guys have ridiculous energy costs because of retarded green deals. I run my ac all the time and rarely pay over 180 a month for electric
>>538323094Forgot to mention, the reason our rent is so high is because we have retarded elites flooding our country with third world faggots and that drives up the cost of housing
They're fucking pussies who can't handle the FREONhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m-TGuLQ4DU
>>538322834>if I've got visitorsWhat are you, gay or something? Who's coming over to your house?
>>538322970This.During this entire heat wave the only place that really warmed up was our attic. Below it everything stayed perfectly stable in temperature. It's almost like old houses we're build specifically to keep their core temperature both in summer and winter.
>>538322834>>538323267I blast these on me until I'm shivering and then I hug the big warm tubing
>>5383227923 day special climate operation to boost AC sales across europe
>>538323748
>>538323712To America... a senior citizen dying from heat or cold is seen as..... a lost revenue to the pharmaceutical and care industry. A revenue that can no longer be exploited.Reminder....Europe has a health care system that is mostly free....and our life expectancy is 5 years longer than Americans.
>>538323870We basically control the oil/gas markets along with the nations that have large reserves of it. That stuff is way more expensive there. They have to find alternatives- Russian gas, nuclear energy, coal, or greener sources.
>>538323417Comfy af, is summer really already waning for you guys? Shit, we just passed the solstice like two weeks ago. I'm in the deep South, we're just in the thick of it and no relief until September at the earliest
>>538322642Why do you have to render a window useless to have AC though, that’s the only thing i don’t understand.
>>538323896Even if it wasn't immigrants that are needed to grow the economy because of low birth rates, it would be Americans raising the rent or housing costs if the population grew. The reason rent/houses are expensive is because little is done to make more houses available because that would cut the wealth of property owners. America is huge, we can build more properties there's plenty of space.
>>538324538If you mandate ozemic and leg amputations you could probably make all of Africa, India and southeast Asia American.
>>538324267Don't rub it in
>>538323417no kidding, its kinda wild that we can go from unbearable heat to comfy blanket time in a span of 3 days
>>538324755Das rite!
>>538322748Ironic. I'm already laughing at you from next year, nigger.
>>5383226421. We have far less need of them than Americans, fewer hot days a year.2. They are not rare, but owners usually use them the reverse way, heating in winter.3. There is no cultural taboo against them, this idea is completely manufactured by third world grifters appealing to the American market.
>>538324267>And our life expectancy blah blah blahYeah because we are fat fucks riddled with obesity and heart disease. It sure the fuck ain't due to the temperature.
>>538323223house or building because for me the building splits the water between the units and some like you is a fucking asshole making everyone pay more
>>538324412you can take it out if you want, use the window, and put it back in. just don't screw the bevels on the sides down of you want to be a cunt about it.
>>538322760If you raise the temp higher then the air will be able to hold more moisture (the RH will go down) and then your sweat will evaporate and you will cool down.Just a little tip in case you have a heater but not an AC.
>>538323267I don't know what this obsession with euros not having them is based on, I have one, it's lovely. They only cost like £300 for a really good one. My bedroom gets so cold I have to get under the covers.
>>538325143danes gave you ozempic, you have no excuse.
>>538322642It' like 17°C in Poland right now... come back next year and make thread on time
>>538322642Where I live there were like two days where the temperature got up to the high 20's (celcius) but the shops were still packed with fans and portable AC units trying to cash in. Don't think anyone bought them.
>>538322642Cooked.
>>538322642What’s funny is that this is the most ghetto AC in America. Reserved for shitskins and retards >t. 3.5 ton unit; 68° as we all fall sleep in my houseIt’s funny, when will eurofrens give up AC in their cars? They’ll have it in their sad little coffin sized cars to use a few hours a week, but not in their homes where they spend their actual lives. Hahahahaha. That’s so stupid
>>538322748>jewbot>retard image>fagIt’s perfect
>>538325703>t. 3.5 ton unitThat's average for a fully grown American woman
>>538325392Kek reminds me of picrel
>>538325789>*I tried
>>538322642I have a USB fan in case it gets slightly warm 5 days of the year.
>>538322642ching chong ding dong
>>538322642oi, moron. why I need ac with 20 degrees outside?
>>538323748we're living longer, while sicker, than ever.
>>538325392doesn't it get cooler at night still? to me heat only matters if it's hot at 2am, not at 2pm.
It's a nice comfy 25 degrees here indoors, and I'm feeling kind of chilly. Time to change back into my late winter/mid autumn clothes until the next heat wave.
>>538323896This>>538324538>it would be Americans raising the rent or housing costs if the population grew.And what if the population didn't endlessly grow dumbass? What if we had just stayed at 250 million? Or do you really think we can have infinite population growth forever?>America is huge, we can build more properties there's plenty of space.God Damnit I hate Zoomer shits your entire generation are worthless retards. You deserve the shitty future you're getting for being this retarded.>Hurr Durr let's just put a billion people in the Midwest, it's not like we actually need farms or anything!
>>538325110>1. We have far less need of them than Americans, fewer hot days a year.So what? You're acting like installing one is a big deal. There's nothing wrong with only using your a/c sometimes when the weather is very hot. It's not like you have to turn it on every day
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>>538322642air conditioners are nazis for all their complaining about how guns kill people they refuse to purchase an ac unit to prevent their own from dying People like this need to be ignored completely
>>538327690Sorry anon I shouldn't be mean. But that empty land you think of is farmland, national parks, forests, etc. we don't have room for more people unless we accept a higher density in populated areas. Democrats want to end single family zoning so they can put apartment complexes in nice suburban neighborhoods. We're too full for immigrants and if our population stayed the same as it was in the 60s housing would be much more affordable
it's over. the temperature has fallen
>>538322642am euro and i have two
>>538322642our windows have hinges, so that cant be installed like thator that >>538322834or that >>538323267
>>538322642>Mocks us for having guns>Dies
>>538330327>mocks "europoors" for not having ACs>NY power grid dies
>>538330327>die from summer heatMade up metric is scary so you have to drink from plastic stray and share a bus ride with nigger.
>>538327815The people who die from heat are pensioners that forget to drink enough, thus eventually die with cardiovascular issues which is attributed to heat. Thus this silly statistic.
>>538330327Who gives a fuck? It's a bunch of 80 year olds that die from heat. They probably would have died the next month anyway. Meanwhile most gun deaths in the US are children.
>>538322792That copium Just get air conditioner you lazy communist.
>>538322792this lolglobal warming is canceled>>538330327nice fake graph :)
>>538322642Why don't gooks and Americans comprehend how latitude works?
>>538322642European communist Environmentalist are hypocrits they have air conditioner where other suffer. This losers should be force to cut the air conditioner according to there climate change religión. They don't practice what they preach being misarable human.
>>538331628and as you can see, most people in Southern Europe do have A/C.
>>538322642Geothermal Chad reporting inYou AC virgins make me laugh. I pity your caveman technology, you animals belong in mud huts.
>>538331628Northern China, Mongolia, and Japan seem much bigger here, while India is much smaller
>>538331747Before some 80IQ chips inYes, it can be reversed to cooling.
>>538331747Is not their fault is there communist environmentalist hypocrite government.
>>538331672Here we don't have much ACs in households, but in almost every public space like offices or stores there there's AC. And I expect the share of households with it to skyrocket after a few more of these kind of summers.
>>538327815>>538331263Sure, but also: guns don't kill people, people kill people
And what’s gonna happen when oil reaches $300 a barrel and electricity prices catches up with the inflation that has hit everything else? AC has been affordable only because of fake and gay money printing, when inflation inevitably hits oil markets and electricity prices all those gay AC only houses and buildings will be unlivable.
>>538331835Why don't you make your government cut their own air conditioner if people can't have one why government official should have one.
>>538331949People can have AC, what are you talking about? It's just a cultural thing and also it wasn't necessary up until recently.
>>538331867You comparing apple to orange climate facist.
>>538322834I got picrel and run it day and night. My electric bill is $120. I keep my house at 20 degrees C and run ceiling fans.
>>538332011Sorry i thought it was france.
>>538322760There's an inverse relation for that.The higher the temp, the lower the humidity will be.42°C in France coincided with a humidity of 10%.That's the famous dry heat Americans are so tolerant of whenever they're not hugging their aircon vents.
>>538322642It costs tens of thousands and weeks to install such a system
>>538331835That was pretty much the case in 1980s Greece. Once the 1987 heatwave hit, A/C use started skyrocketing. Though I still believe you should be mostly fine with a portable unit you use a few weeks per year.
If the sun suddenly got significantly larger most burgers would just go "So get sunglasses! You can't afford su glasses you retarded europoors??"
>>538331747there is no groundwater anymore And all surface bodies have evaporated
>>538322642It's not the aircon.We like aircon.The problem is installing it in rental apartments where you've got shit windows that only swing or tilt, and also have the highest need for aircon thanks to the extremely good energy label.
>>538332086It doesn't just cut a rectangular hole in a wall.
>>538332057Unironically thisEuros dont get that we have brutal fucking humidity here. Like step outside and you are already sweating.
>>538331263People who die from heat are cyclists who get cocky and go out in the evening only to return with a migraine
>>538332147You dont have a clothes dryer vent you can hook the outlet to?
>>538332138Works on my machine
>>538332056Well, in France it's just a stupid political debate. I wouldn't expect the incendiary discourse to do anything but generate headlines. It's like that shit of NY telling people to keep the AC at 70 degrees or whatever it was. No one in the real world gives a shit -- if AC becomes necessary we'll buy AC for our home.>>538332124>Though I still believe you should be mostly fine with a portable unit you use a few weeks per year.Probably, though heat pumps make sense anyway, so why not just install one that can be reversed to use as an AC, right? I expect we'll see a lot of that happening here in the future.
>>538323267portable one hose units dont work
>>538322760Currently 29C and 76% humidity where I'm at. It's only the morning though, so it'll get worse.
>>538322792>>538322833>>538322884>it was only 96 degrees for 3 days now my house is a nice 84 degreesLmao imagine being used to such low quality of life and having no temp preference>yeah whatever as long as my house is between 50 and 85 degreesLomao
>>538332230I suppose we could hook the outlet tube to the central venting system, but we typically don't have vents for dryers.It's not necessary to machine-dry our stuff, we just hang everything on a drying rack. Again central venting takes care of that.
>>538332234Nah NY said 78 or some bullshit high number. 70 is like 20.5 C, perfect room temp.
>>538330327There two demographics who are particularly prone to dying in heat waves:80 year old boomers.And brownoids who drown.Both are good things.
>>538332328My home has central venting as well. But yes you could hook the tube up to that. Clothes dryers are simply a luxury, no need to iron etc unless its church clothes etc.
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPOops I did it again!
>>538322642euroaches would rather die than work, save money, and get an aircon. they think if enough people die, big daddy gibsmedat will flil their begging bowl with universal free aircon
>>538322833it's more like 2 weeks, in the whole summer. Which isn't a lot, but also why make 2 weeks out of the summer miserable when AC unit costs $500 and should last at least 10 years
>>538322642I was out of town so I turned mine off. When I got home it was so hot. I turned them all on and started tripping the breaker! I got them all sorted now and it's a comfortable 68 in my place again.
>>538332394Theres also the "not being miserable for no fucking reason" thing. >be me >visit eastern europe>summer>apartment is "eat a fat dick" hot>suffer>visit again in winter>central steam >apartment on top floor of commieblock>have to open windows in middle of vatnik cold pizdets weatherBurgers really dont know how easy things are here compared to euroland.
>>538332523>A/C is $500You can get one at shartmart here for like $150
>>538325198>>538322760heating at this temp seems like a suicidedehumidifier would be a better idea. And since dehumidifiers are just heatpumps, you might go the extra mile and install split. You can use it to dehumidify air in the fall. Although normal dehumidifier has the benefit of also being a net gain to temperature.
>>538332639split ACs are like $250+, but I would pay extra 250 for reliabilityfree standing units are maybe $150, but theyre noisy
200,000 white people died in heat waves within the last 4 years but the history books said they were kings and queens in the Hottest climate in the world 2000 years ago
>>538332138you have closed loop system that don't use ground water.They just use the earth as a heat exchange. It generally remains at around 10 degrees regardless of winter or summer. >>538331747These are great but expensive. Also doesn't work in every soil type.
>>538332680I would get a window unit if you arent on the first story. If in a house just put them in the bedrooms. Window units last forever long. If somehow you can get an 80s US made unit with r-12, it should last until the second coming of Christ.
>>538327917Don't be I just don't care enough to get into a long drawn debate. The space exists even considering the national parks and areas that Trump until recently wanted to sell off to develop.
>>538322642>4chan only talks about crap that msm and reddit talks aboutthis fucking sucks, i want 2016 back
You faggots are so favstian about muh AC but cry when someone decides to blow up a mountain to make a road 200m shorterFucking mental peasants
>>538332325This is such a shit take. Do you literally never go outside? Do you control the temperature when you hiking in the woods or swimming in a lake, or is your country too hostile for that.Nothing comfier than coming home from a hike through the snow and chill under a blanket. All the time when it is hot, I go outside, if it's too warm just jump in the water.If for some reason the government in the US wants to keep you guys down they just cut electricity because you can't survive fluctuating temperatures.How is that better quality of life.(Many people own ACs here)
>>538332784in europe we've got tilted windows, so window units aren't suited for those
>>538332854although I could make it work with some plywood. But buying one in Europe is another matter. No one sells those here
>>538332900nvm, I checked, and they're available, but they cost 2x what split would cost
>>538332762Or hes just a lying gay frog. Geothermal is extremely expensive also it pretty much doesnt work when temps get really extreme. >have friend whos family is rich>have beautiful house in whitefish MT>hurr lets do geothermal cuz muh mother earth>blizzard comes>hmmm wonder why the wood stove is on>line in heat exchange field cracked and no glycolIf you are cold just get a toyostove with a build in tank. I had an RV I would heat for $1.50 a day in subfreezing winters and was comfy wumfy
>>538332582Sorry to say that new Dutch apartments are exactly the same.I even opened my windows at -2°C because 22° was feeling a little toasty. The heaters have never been turned on. Completely redundant.In fact today I woke up to find the thermometer indicated 29°C. It hasn't even been 29 in a week, and I've had the windows open from sundown to dawn every single night.People talk an awful lot about the heat itself in these threads but the architects really deserve the rage.They designed the buildings to heatmaxx for the energy rating so the renting corporation gets the best percentages on the loans required to build these prisons, and as part of that effort completely failed to install ways of getting rid of the heat.
>>538322642Most of the retards who bought air conditioning units over the past week will be trying to take them back for a refund now.
>>538332900Nah I wouldnt recommend. Compressors prefer to be level last I checked. Its why they say let a freezer or fridge sit for 12 hours before plugin. They really dont make shit easy there. I can see why poland wants to be a US outpost. I dont blame em. German bureaucracy is hell, UK is a police state, france only gets a pass cuz they have the least cucked gun laws but its pretty much algeria in the cities. Visiting frankfurt was like walking into another dimension of what in the fuck. Might as well rename it to Judeo-Liberalis.
>>538333188No refunds saar.
>>538333047Geothermal is pretty common here. Even in the north, maybe they have a shitty installation?
>>538333151Agreed, houses need to breathe for longevity. I am planning on putting a metal roof on my house but want to instal a cupola to help with the venting.
>>538333151Make sure to block the sun, that's the culprit. I had a 7.2mx3m window facing the south in my apartment in Eindhoven. Basically had to keep the curtains closed all the time. Though we put the floor cooling to max that helped just a lot of condensation near the meter. Not my problem.
>>538333321One question sven.....fucking why? You could buy a toyo for 3k and be done with it but in order to account for frost levels (what my friends family didnt do) you end up paying close to 20k. Unless you are close to a hot spring its a meme.
>>538333047Geothermal is pretty common here, I know several people who have it. Never heard any complains. The only horror story I heard (by hearsay, not anyone I know), was of someone who got garden work done with machinery and forgot he had pipes underground. It's an upfront investment, but the operating cost is much lower than an air unit.
>>538333240tilted windows can open to the side. the unit would be leveled. It's just not as easy to install as with slide windows
>>538333575electricity is expensive in yurop. you earn it back in a few years.also, it's nowhere close to 20k. my brother paid not even half that.
