>No we can't have Rupert define who the british are as a people because uhhhhh... we just can't, okay???>Now sit down and know your fucking placeMost retarded take of the year awardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nilPAkHkAM
>>538324353But Richard, what will we do about the bears in the ethnostate?
>>538324353he is a classic liberal, he is for the economy and free markets and he still believes in democracy and voting kek shit you not liek he said it himself
He's more or less right, even if he is being a cunt about it.
>>538324353>expecting sargoy to not be a cuck
>>538324353Anons keep saying Sargon has become a White nationalist of some kind but he is still a liberal civnat like he was ten years ago. He is also poisonous to every movement he touches. And if Restore is just going to morph into Reform why not vote (lol) for Reform?
>>538324353You're not going to get 100% hardcore, "No browns allowed" white supremacist party yet you retard.The best you can do is 1. Vote to deport the millions of browns who are here. Establish free speech and safety and then advocate for your 100% white utopia.or2. risk your entire race, county and culture by allowing even more third worlders to replace you, so you become a minority in the hope that civil war happens before it's too late.. and hope that you win.
>>538324693No he isn't, people shouldn't have to make concessions, and he said that himself beforeEither Restore is a nationalist option willing to draw clear ethnic lines or it isn't. At the same time, I don't think the british right can be split again, and anyone willing to try to solve things democratically will have to accept that Restore is their last chance.The european "far right" is such a goddamn joke who can't even bear themselves to define their own ethnic group
>>538324722It doesn't have to be a white supremacist party, just one that when the time comes won't pretend that every nigger living in the UK is british just because they have a passport
>>538324886>The european "far right" is such a goddamn joke who can't even bear themselves to define their own ethnic groupThats only really a problem for the anglos, french and germans, and unlike the first two, that kind of thinking was imposed on germans, while the french and anglos did it to themselves willingly
>>538324722They don't care they literally undermine every right-wing stance then pretend they're the gatekeepersThat's why they never offer any suggestions or solutions because they literally want you to simply loseThey scream NO I'M NOT NO I'M NOT YOU'RE JEWISH WHAT I DON'T LIKE IS JEWISH SO YOU NEED TO HATE THAT NOW but the only things that get them moving are rushing to defend literal jewish interestsThey're faggot redditors who love playing a role but will always be a good goy when its time for changeWe literally see it over and over and overUndermine the movement, call it jewish, attack the members and leaders, if the movement wins they go "woah we did it!!!" then its right back to underminingThey're like trannies who will literally go out and shoot up a school before killing themselves because somebody who agrees with 99.999% of what they believe skipped their hours trans rights post so are mega Hitler Nazi codedTldr: Its the same flags every time so they're just retards
>>538325294Holy copeHere, you're gonna need it
>>538324886My father is one of the most racist people you'll ever meet.Hates paki, indians, blacks etc.Completely happy to talk shit about them, in private and public.But if you called yourself a nazi, or an ethno nationalist, or implied either term applied to him, he will furious.He's a boomer and that entire generation has been completely conditioned against the terms. And the boomer generation is still the most numerous voting demographic in the country.You don't need to make concessions on policy but you do have to message correctly.
>>538324353Hold up, isn't this the same guy who used to make anti-sjw slop way back like 10-15 years ago? I can't believe I used to go along with it before I knew the touch of a woman.
>>538324353it's kind of sad to see so many people in their little twitter bubble, who have such a distorted view of public opinion, thinking they're going to change the country, that they represent 60%+ of people, yet are just living in a little echo chamber rendering them basically useless.i'm not happy about it, it's the same mistakes over and over and over, year after year after year. delusional optimism removing any ability to form a coherent strategy.
>>538325564Nobody thinks thatPeople are just tired of getting shafted by a supposed political alternative over and over again. It's normal to be skeptical
>>538324353maybe start with the Greens saying they're opposed to US and Israeli meddling and go from there?instead of wasting your time with Stephen Yaxley and other globalists, start with something you'll actually win, THEN push anti-immigration, because you'll be allowed to when the neoliberals are gone.otherwise, keep sucking off unemployed loser ecelebs who read wikipedia
>>538324353All these people advocating for 4d chess - why are you not running as a leftoid if you are afraid of censorship and backlash from certain constituencies? Just create a party that proposes the most popular positions and then win elections. But that's not what's going on. What these people want to do is coopt rightwing sentiment and piece together some watered down positions to win. What ends up happening is that not only do you not win, but you waste everyone's time and then you infight on top of that.
>>538324353whats the nu grift in the UK for the eCelebs?still voting UKIP?lol
>>538325381You are brown, faggot
>>538325294Go ahead and elect Rupert Lowe, just don't fall for the trick when he tried to wind you up for a jewish war after doing nothing to make Britain White again.He's a fucking cookie cutter Trump archetype.
>>538324353>Vanguard has been vanguarding for fucking 90 years since hitler died and the kikes started browning amalek to destroy it>Finally the world starts to come back around>N... no!! You're the vanguard, stop going mainstream!!Sargon is brilliant but what the fuck was this?
>>538324353He's factually correct. Nobody ever said restore was a racist party. A few Ethno Naitonalists latched onto it because they're too feeble to start and run their own party. Having said that Lowe clearly pandered to them with race baiting statements in order to win their support. The bottom line is that if you are not an ethno nationalist you might as well be a Liberal Democrat. The end result is exactly the same.
>>538330557If you're in a party that's not ethno nationalist you're dead with extra steps.
can you really trust a party that goes out of its way to recruit Benjamin?poor decision making
infighting.... typical
>>538330557>>538330742>The bottom line is that if you are not an ethno nationalist you might as well be a Liberal Democrat. The end result is exactly the same.The bottom line is that a expressly nationalist party was tried, the BNP, and it failed completely.Policy is what matters. That and selling it to the brainwashed masses.
>>538330557Then whats the fucking point of Restore anon, just vote Reform and actually win.
>>538331003>thinks voooooting will fix anythingI'll see you here next year posting the same thing eh anon?
>Zohar Historian vs. Sarcuck
>>538330847
The left has no trouble whatsoever understanding what's being addressed here. They're doing it spectacularly well with the DSA candidate victories right now.
>>538331043I dont actually, but England will never do what Northern Ireland did, the people there have already just moved on, it happened, there was no great reform of government to address what happened, they kicked the people out and made them afraid to live there, so even if they stayed they arent doing their wakanda forever bullshit for fear of very real reprisal. The vote wont fix things but it will make people realize they are the majority and are all on the same page, and can just act in accordance with the fact that people will actually clap and cheer when they start burning houses out. Like, what is the expectation exactly from England(and Europe in generals) Right wing?>we want to forcibly eject the muslims and immigrants from the country>I dont care if there is roadblocks well just throw them into the ocan>well lead them to the shore and wave them offIts not going to be peaceful, you will be hated even if it was peaceful, there is going to be so many hurdles even if this gets started that youll hit one and then the whole thing will stop, like "we were deporting a kid and the kid died, now we have to stop deportations forever" etc. There is going to be violence because there has to be violence. Thats Englands problem, you culture is whatever it tolerates, and I really wish they will realise they have a home to lose before it becomes an unwinnable fight.
>>538330935>That and selling it to the brainwashed masses.Too bad the right is notoriously bad at marketing their ideas. They think facts, logic and brutal honesty is how you win over hearts and minds, when the left has clearly demonstrated over the last 50 years that most people are just easily controlled sheep who can be made to do literally anything using social engineering and media manipulation. As long as the right refuses to learn this lesson and keeps going on about rape statistics and deportations, they will never manage to attain enough power to realize their goals and save the white race.
>>538331339people understand stories, not statistics
>>538330935The BNP was gaining massive traction and momentum until they won two EU seats and the establishment threw every dirty trick at themSuch as leaking the membership list, banning members from police and teachers and other organisations.And the electoral commission suddenly mandating that parties must allow ethnics in and can't reject them. Nick did try to play along but it caused the sperging out the establishment wanted, and the party fell apartUKIP and Farrage were heavily promoted as the safe acceptable option by the way, until Brexit anyway
>sargoy of kukkad>uhhh my wife said it’s a good idea to take our kid to nuchurch it’s so boring i don’t believe in it i just can’t… by the way stop being a hardline ethnic nationalist that’s not realistic you have to le compromise with le political systemmiserable, if that’s the kind of life and worldview that is the best britain can have then just let the muslim hordes take over and have shariah, at least they fucking believe something and aren’t struggling on the fucking familial level with the most basic ideas of good, evil, and god’s existencei’m over itjust nuke the anglosphere and get it done with. an absolute joke of an empire
>>538324353>Sargoy has an awful takeMust be a day ending in y.[spoiler]I actually like some of the stuff Lotus Eaters do, but Carl is a low IQ individual that dresses up his shitty opinions in impressive verbage.[/spoiler]>>538324693Shut up
>>538331579>>538331339Which is exactly why they need to play the game before them and not the game autistic twats wish them to play.>>538331745Fuck off.
>noooooo you cant let the overton window keep pushing rightwards>you have to push for the most radical positions immediately and alienate everyone goy- i mean guys!!!sargon was actually in the right here
>>538331899Telling a bunch of your hardest supporters that they're disposable is the most retarded thing you can do. Moreover, if you aren't willing to define who is British as being someone with ancestral connection to Britain then what am I voting for? May as well vote reform, they're already a civ-nat party that's more likely to win. At this point the only reason to support Restore is because of the the young guys at the top.>>538331975>Keep cucking to the center >Then we can winI don't want the center to win.
>>538324690He was a liberal 10 years ago, a civnat when he started Lotus Eaters, and for the past 4 or so years he's been an ethnat. /pol/ doesn't watch his content so they think he's still the same guy he was 10 years ago.
the british will go extinct if they don't throw everyone with dark skin off the white cliffs
>>538324690He's not a liberal He has spent nearly every day for the past 4 or so years sperging about liberalism He is not even a nationalist because he deems nationalism to be a liberal invention.He is pre-ideological.He just wants a strong, but non-intrusive authority that provides security and prosperity and doesn't disrupt traditional and non-material social bonds.
>>538332059like I said, somehow the left has no trouble with this and it should be basic political strategy, they've managed to go from obama dodging questions about gay marriage to electing islamic socialists to congress within a single generation
>>538332187This is exactly it. We didn't just get here by accident, the left of our countries have happily been using their most extreme, and their most active, elements to normalise their world view. By hitting out those activists on the right that want to normalise ethnonationalism you're actively damaging our ability to move the window. The only reason I can think of that someone would do that is because they don't want that normalised.
>>538331975>in 50 years when brits are totally demographically replaced the pendlum will swing hard right!!! just wait and see when the overton window slowly shifts for another 8 decades!yeah it’s going to swing far right in terms of hard right muslim fundementalists requiring kids to read the quran in school most likely. not in terms of you getting anything you want on such a timeframe
>>538332187the left has no trouble with it because democracy is a rigged system and the only possible way to beat it is to vote in ethnic identitarians who will end the systemyou’re losing your ability to do that in realtime. not sure what else to tell you. libs are chilling because they just have to import more voters. yes it’s unfair, democracy is anti white male
>>538332059>Telling a bunch of your hardest supporters that they're disposable is the most retarded thing you can do.Literally the leftist play book for the last 60 odd years.And guess what, it worked.Seriously, stop putting me in a position where I have to defend that cunt. You are ruining my saturday.>Keep cucking to the centerNothing about their policy has changed. And the centre is where the most votes are, get used to it.Policy is what matters. And unlike the tories or reform, restore haven't had to be dragged kicking and screaming to a position that is beneficial to the native brits.
>>538325564It doesn't matter what their numbers are desu, they're the only people that can actually save your country.They're objectively correct and everyone else is just pretending that things will somehow just work into perpetuity.
>>538324353He framed it wrong. And so did Restore.There is truth to the argument that Restore's base is the unpolitical normie, not the hardline ethnonationalists, and Reform needs to always take care with the messaging to appeal to the unpolitical normie.With that said, the ONLY factor that distinguishes Restore from Reform/Tories is the hope Restore will Restore British native demographics. Not entirely ofc but at least begin moving in the correct direction, instead of further ruining the demographics even further.If Restore drops that, it loses everything. Even if they win, it won't matter.Rupert should distance himself from the actual nazis, the militant ethno-nationalists, the Christian fundamentalists and all the violent anti-social loonies. But it should not drop all ethnic considerations entirely and become race-blind like everyone else.Restore should be openly in favour of British ethnic continuity but framed in a reasonable, non-threatening, and pragmatic way, like Carl himself has been doing for the past years, instead of adopting an hostile, purist and uncompromising line that scares away the normies.
>>538332611>Literally the leftist play book for the last 60 odd years.The only time this has been right is after they've won. No leftist has ever denounced their vanguard in the middle of a revolution. This is a retarded boomer that now has buyers remorse.>the native brits.Strange you're using language that Lowe won't. He isn't doing anything for the natives, not directly, he's doing it for the "British". If the natives benefit, then it's a side effect.
Isn't this sargon guy an octoroon or some shit? The whole racial thing will always be off-limits to mongrels.
Why can't we get people to agree to just stfu and mass deport of all non whites? How long is this gonna go on for? We don't have that much time left. I don't want to be fighting this race war when I am a old man.
>>538332611>he actually believes that he’s in a situation of symmetric warfare>we just have to do what leftists do… but better! then we will win in the long run!they have free win tools nigga they can just import people nigga. they can systematically dismantle the power of your vote as a group by diluting it. because the whole premise is a lie, you have to call the bluff that people can come into the country from somewhere else and get a say in how shaping your life
>>538331745Harry, Scrump, and the guys off Broken Crown are doing a new stream this Thursday I imagine it's going to be awkward for Harry as he'll spend a couple of hours resisting the urge to call his boss a dipshit
Boomers are incapable of comprehending white seperatism. I dont think a single one exists in this day and age. Even if they check the jq and race realism boxes they lack the ability to say that whites should exclusively live with whites.
>>538331003Vote for a party that promotes multi-racial Capitalism?
>>538332860I hope for your sake you still get to fight it whilst you're a relatively young man.Cheers fren, and happy 4th.
>>538324353All anyone is asking for is the mass deportation of the migrants; whatever party that offers that, along with upholding the law and order without this two-tier shit and stops trying to introduce lockdowns on free speech or other liberties has my vote. Anything else is a distraction or noise.
Sad. Though I think he is just being realistic.I dont think you can convince "Im not a racist but" people to be ethic puritans. That cant be done through democracy, im afraid.But deporting aliens would get you halfway there, at least.
>>538332889I imagine the past couple of weeks have quite stressful for them. Every time Rupert has opened his mouth he's said something retarded.
>>538332832Yes, he's also a cuck raising another man's children
>>538332860You arnt gonna like the truth anon. If you tried to deport all non-whites you would have lethal resistance. The result would be bloody as hell. Gov would cuck out.They reduced the ICE level of force after tge woman and the jew died. Imagine the level of force you would need to get rid of nigs in the US.The actual solution is to offer remigration and return to roots programs where you change citizenship and get some cash bonus like 50k. While that is going on you would cut social systems. When the ebt dried up the 125k looks really good for the pregnant Shaniqua and her 2 niglets.
>>538332960they are all like this. Every single one of them. And they reinforce each other - they do these long boomer phone calls and still watch boomer tv. Talmudvision is just entirely for this group of retards.>>538333064Thanks. I don't even feel like celebrating it. I've been trying to get some sort of revolution for like 16 years of my life on this site & elsewhere - and I've seen all these arguments and everything play out a billion times before. I'm not a young man anymore. But I'd like to fight this war whilst I'm still not 'old' and not a second a longer. I prob should just walk away but it's the roman general in me that's screaming how the fuck did people get like this - it's so obvious - just deport them all. Close the border then fix everything else. Shit should be so simple.
>>538332312It's exactly the opposite though, imagine them running on transing kids in 2008. The radical left knows how to play politics at a level that makes the right look like children in comparison.there's a discussion to be had about this being the case because the left has a much more unified moral ideology and vision of the future the question is just how violent and fanatical they are about achieving it while the right has a small group, vanguard if you will, who actually knows the score and the rest can mostly differentiated by what decade they want to wind cultural politics back to but the radical left's strategic approach is the one that works regardless
>>538324353This dude's entire schtick was that he hates Reform because Nigeria is too moderate and Rupie is a BASED Aryan Nazi who will gas all the mudslimes and it didn't matter if this led to a purity spiral that split the nationalist remigration vote because moderates are useless but now Rupert is revealing how moderate he is and suddenly Soigon is backpedaling and using the arguments of "well you have to he a little moderate just to get power" and "so what if his son married a Muslim? There are TORIES in Reform innit!!" I'm losing respect for carl by the minute, especially because the lotus eaters bought the bullshit fake news narratives about Trump which have since been proven false. Podcasters cannot be trusted
>>538333216>another man's childrenIf true, then isn't it good that his genes aren't continuing?
Midwits don't understand how fucked the "British" are. The fact you consider yourself "British" first and not English should tell you everything but you don't even question that. It was the final nail in the coffin when your literal jewish prime minister in the 19th century homogenized your ethnic identity or rather got rid of the ethno part entirely for his classless, multicultural vision for your, at the time already, dwindling empire. How convenient it was to infect your newly founded modern conservatives with supremacist civnat brainrot that included all your colonies in the third world in this British equation. Indians, Pakis, Arabs, Niggers aren't immigrating, they're just Brits moving lol. Thanks Disraeli. Then they made you fight two world wars against the last resistance to kike world dominance, sacrificing your world power status and hegemony and since then your entire cultural pride and identity revolves around beating the evil Nazis. And now, after literal centuries of globo homo and anti German/Fascist/Nazi anything you expect the "British" to rally behind some imaginary NSDAP equivalent? lmao
>>538333250>If you tried to deport all non-whites you would have lethal resistance. The result would be bloody as hell. Gov would cuck out.I am 100% aware. But if we don't do this soon - we are gonna be surrounded by nonwhites forever potentially - they are not gonna stop sabotaging us and trying to prevent us from separating from them ever.
>>538332187Something I've noticed about the left is that they never scramble to apologize and disavow when one of theirs does something hardcore. When one of them killed Charlie Kirk the rest of them just pointed and laughed, and in the end that turned out to be the correct strategy.
>>538332548they passed Hart-Cellar with the promise "it will not upset the ethnic balance of our nation", this goes much further back and the same tactics, basically just lying, have worked the whole timeunderstanding that political factions have a vanguard and mainstream is some of the most basic shit possible with ideological strategy, are right wingers just inherently too proud to accept how politics work?
>>538333512it is(so is just killing people)
>>538333250>If you tried to deport all non-whites you would have lethal resistance.Then you kill them.
>>538325381So what's your solution? They don't vote for Lowe, let reform take over and what? More migrants, more whites arrested for being stabbed or attacked by browns? Like what is your suggestion here?
>>538333431He's had children with her too
>>538324353>2 complete retards fightingyeah I have a twitter account, I'm actually kind of a big deal
>>538333022Sadly, yes. Theyre the only one that may be multi racial, but actually acknowledges there is anti white bias and DEI that needs addressed. If Restore wins there is still too much institutional power to resist whatever they plan to do, Reform doesnt push as far so is more likely to get those incremental changes past and get the ball rolling, rather than resisted.The Right in Britain needs to get a political foothold. Youre wanting absoloute conquest right out the gate when the institution itself is not supporting it even if the people are, that shit will take time to push those people out, it wont happen instantly with Restore, infact that will be when its at its strongest to resist whatever the likes of Restore would want to do. Youre not voting to kick millions of people out of the country anon, there is not going to be people going door to door walking immigrants out of their houses onto a boat, its not happening. You have to change the country as it is now to get those people to willingly leave over time or have an actual fucking race war. Youre not voting out of this when the government still operates with an anti native bias, you need to get rid of that shit first and all the institutions that uphold that. This will not happen over night with Restore winning, Restore winning while the leftists institution is still strong is how nothing will be achieved because they have the power to resist, if Reform wins they push the boat out far enough that it causes changes, then more changes follow, then, we get political parties that are both right wing arguing how best to implement these things because the institution is now right wing, rather than just left vs far left.TLDR; The change wont be instant, Restore will accomplish nothing if it wins now because the institution they would be going into is still strong enough to push back on everything. Any failure will be associated with being Right wing and well never get a chance again.
>>538333809same time next year anon?
>>538324353this faggot is always taking concessions he can't admit he's always fucking wrong. carl is literally a midwit faggot who should go back to talking about john locke.
>>538324353He's absolutely correct. This containment board, and boards like it will never do anything other than perpetually whine about everything to no end, and no-one will ever hear it because you are not palatable to anyone with any stroke. You really are here forever, and you'll always be impotent.
