i plan to live in the ocean. it's international waters so there shouldn't be any law against it and i could just build a boat to live on. i would eat much fish and water supply shouldn't be a problem. no money needed after i paid off the boat because nature gives me everything for free. with gf you need a bigger boat but that shouldn't be a problem
>>538333571>no money needed after i paid off the boatYou've never known anyone with a boat have you lol?
>>538333571Damn Anon, nothing scares me more then being out in the middle of the ocean like that. >>538333571
>>538333571Boats are money sinks though
>>538334022well no but i don't want a big boat, a small one is enough. a small boat doesn't need much to be repaired so you can take the replacement parts with you easily>>538334106it's comfy. you're alone and can do whatever you want
>>538333571>>538334106The only place I would consider boat lifestyle are the Greek islands, the sea's are usually calm there and no sharks in the water, also plenty of cheap docking locations
>>538334022I doubt he's ever been anywhere near the sea, but people do take off and live the rest of their life at sea, however long or short the rest is.Even Germans, like eg: Manfred Fritz Bajorat, who took off and stayed out there after the loss of his wife. It just takes considerably more money than OP imagines, even if you going for the simplest of lifestyles.
>>538334258Retard, enjoy scraping off barnacles.
>>538334311you'd need to play by the rules there though so a big plus from my plan would fall away
>>538333571do iti want to see you drown
>>538333571>already been tried>failedWhat’s your next idea?
>>538333571Can I call you ishmael?
>>538334404what rules would you be breaking? Take my advice, if you are serious, Greek islands is the way to go. Go to Crete and explore some dock options, maybe find a beat up boat you can repair and learn the lifestyle gradually
>>538334445i dont do streams
>>538334445Drown, nonono, that's for Germans doing beach holidays at the north sea.Those who go live out their lives at sea are supposed to get mummified on their boats.
>>538334493it's not my name>>538334508i don#t know the exact rules in greece but i suppose there are rules about how much fish you can take or about the standards of the boat and so on
You will surely die out there.. you should still do this but a safer option would be a house boat on a trailer, travel lake to lake, tow your house boat from your truck and live in peace and solitude in the middle of lakes. Oceans are too violent.
>>538333571I dig it, Captain Nemo!Please name your ship the Nautilus.
>>538333571I would suggest you make your way to the Pacific Garbage Patch so that you may live out your Waterworld fantasy and have ample trash to salvage for repairs.
>>538334588>about the standardsNigger are you stupid? I am Greek and we don't give a shit about petty rules, make friends with locals and you will be protected
>>538333571>no money needed after i paid off the boatDo not buy a boat if you think like this. Then again, you are planning to sustain yourself on fish and salt water, so maybe finance is not the biggest issue here.
>>538334725that looks good, another problem solved. so i don't need to take material for repairs with me. i could even build a small shed out of the things swimming around, at least some hut to sleep in. or extend the boat>>538334759probably true. i'm german and think like one so i sometimes forget that other nations have a more flexible approach to order
>>538334311Not doable in the winter, the sea gets stormy as hell
>>538334941the greek sea is warmer so there are no storms
>>538334907>a more flexible approach to orderYeh Greeks are pretty chill if you are just a solo guy on a small boat, nobody will fuck with you>>538334941Winter time you dock the boat at port and shack up for 2-3 months in a small room for cheap, you can get a small room to stay in the winter for 1,500 euros or less. They key for the German >>538334907 is to learn how to make money on a boat, a lot of Greeks do sponge farming and sell their goods at tourist markets or they have deals with local restaurants to provide fresh fish and octopus
>>538335065Yes, it is known there are no storms in warm climates. None.>>538335072Dock life would be doable, but living out in the sea in his boat would not be, especially if OP has no experience in sailing in the mediterranean winter, or anywhere
>>538335065If you're going to keep dwelling on this fantasy of yours, I suggest you read all you can about the American Joshua Slocum.Slightly more modern you could read about John Holdens trip from up here and all the way to Tahiti, in a tiny 22 feed full keeled sailboathttps://www.ritaolesen.dk/trojka_john_holden_foleys_diary/index.htm
>>538333571Here you go https://youtu.be/NpKbULrB9Z8?is=QqbJIaDBPgnGLFo6
>>538333571schlau actuallyniemand der dich störtund all der friede für sich alleinüber move
>>538333571> no money needed after i paid off the boat because Because you are an idiot who has zero maritime knowledge and experience.BOAT is an acronym for:>Break Out Another Thousand Everything costs more to fix on a boat, and the salt water makes scheduling maintenance an absolute necessity.The fuel to run them doesn’t come cheap either, nor are slip and docking feesEven a wooden sailboat with no engine requires regular maintenance and ship worm spraying
>>538334588> rules in greeceThey are the simplest rules in Europe, anything can and will be ignored if you are friendly with the authorities or pay a bribe…
Perpetual Traveller is a nice life concept
>>538333571Fuel?Fresh water?Veggies?
>>538336257>FuelSail, wind generator and /or solar panels>Fresh waterreverse osmosis water filter>VeggiesWash your mouth with soap Mr. 'Murican. How dare you use such words, especially on this freedom-day of yours
how many shoggoths do you have and how do you plan on keeping them docile
>>538333571Plenty of people already do this, it’s not as cheap as you think. You need to go to port eventually, and you’ll want a dock slip. There are places you can anchor, but you’ll have your whole life tethered to one anchor, which can and not infrequently do fail. It’s doable, but harder than you think>t. sailor
>>538334508This faggot isn’t serious. Plenty of people live on boats, and there are tons of resources out there. The fact he thinks he’s some genius with a novel idea, combined with the fact he has absolutely no clue about seamanship shows that he’s done fuckall for research. I hope he at least livestreams his death if he manages to get a boat and then ventures off into international waters for his first solo voyage lmao>BUT MUH NO ROOOOLS-blblblblbl
>>538337016Do you have any idea how expensive the upkeep on an RO system capable of desalinating seawater is? >>538335065you are going to die if you try this. my advice is to make friends (LOL) with someone who owns a boat. You need to be an able seaman before you buy your own boat (especially a fucking sailboat) or you are probably going to capsize and drown. You can live on a boat for cheap, but you’ll barely be one step above homeless. Living comfortably on a boat is expensive. Plenty of people try what you do, only to get stuck living at some marina in a shitty old unseaworthy vessel
>>538337241He does sound a bit like those two flat-eathers who sailed off from Venice to find the edge of the world.Surprisingly they didn't find it, but washed up on Ustica.
>>538337584>Do you have any ideaYes. We're a bit of a sailing nation here, in case you didn't know. Leisurely and commercially.And OP isn't going to need a system that supply a full crew for years.Just enough for himself for those few weeks it takes him to find out that he don't really want to live the rest of his life at sea.
>>538338203The filters and chemicals still add up to several hundreds of dollars per year, and you need money set aside in case the motor or membrane fail on you. OP sounds like some schizo who wants to live for totally free, and that’s just not gonna happen. Believe it or not, USA has a maritime culture too. I’ve sailed from the mainland to Guam and Hawaii, it’s not as cheap as OP thinks
>>538338203The American thinks your flag is Austria, and that Austria is somewhere in "Europe"
>>538338412>Believe it or not, USA has a maritime culture too.Oh I know, and one that goes back to your early years, and not just your military one - which everyone knows about. My first suggestion to OP for some reads to fuel this little day dream of hes was in fact an American. And don't worry so much about price tags, OP is just dreaming, he ain't going to leave his basement. Count on it.
