why did the Germans waste resources setting up gas chambers to kill 6 million Jews in the middle of a multi front war instead of just shooting them?
Yeah, babbie's first red pill. That's why it never happened, genius.
There was a shortage of bullets. That's the entire reason behind gas chambers.
The jews could have starved to death because the allies blew up everything and they were low priority like how the UK exterminated Indians because they weren't important enough during the war. The victors write history so that's why the allies are the good guys even though they also exterminated people
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>>538343904A noose can be reused and is more efficient than hauling everyone to one point to execute them.Execution camps make no sense from a logistical perspective.Even if it was a grudge, watching someone get hanged is more satisfying.So, the only reason left is because the nazis knew they would be found and they wanted Hollywood to have excellent source material for the next 100 years.That or it didn't happen.
>>538343908If you examine the Japanese and Germans today they worship the allies even though we conquered and burned their cities. Hitler was wrong and Germans are an inferior race who apologize to us for trying to be a super power and getting killed
>>538343603Supposedly they only killed 1-2 million. This is the official number now. The 6 million number didn't add up for a number of reasons. Jews often exaggerate the truth and typically feel justified. If they were confronted with the truth and forced to acknowledge it ( they wont ) they would say "Who cares if it was 1 million or 6 million its still terrible". Personally it is most likely that the jews were kicked out of Germany. IE: They were no longer allowed to do business in Germany. The ones that wouldn't leave were forced to do actual work. Thats all that happened. Whites are incapable of genocide. Their values get in the way.
>>538343603they didnt holocaust them, that was a lie to cover up how the germans built camps to have jews perfect their mind control tech
>>538343603Read the Haavara Agreement. Nazis were Zionists and only interested in killing other whites.
>>538343603it's extensively documented why, if you be a human for a moment instead of a retardPeople don't like shooting people/kids on repeat for hours on end. Even if you find enough psychos it wouldn't have been enough. This is why the whole "industrial scale/sterile" slaughter thing is the discussion. Not just that people were killed, but that it was turned into a factory process because no population on the planet has enough psychos per capita to just dump rounds into random people without them being liable to start dumping rounds at others around them.
Or simply to expel them en masse from Europe.I don’t understand either.
>>538344062>A noose can be reused and is more efficient than hauling everyone to one point to execute themHangings are super slow not sure what you mean.Also they would enrage the prisoner population and you'd need massive security to prevent daily assault on the guards.
>>538344462The axis and allies were meth heads they didn't care about anything other than thrills
>>538344462the documents were forged or had evidence destroyed that would have told the truth (there was no holocaust). no Jews were gassed. they died of disease and malnutrition (likely because the allies bombed all the railways...)
>>538343603i'm not sure if i'm getting trolled or if the average /pol/tard has ever opened a history book in their lives
>>538344465hitler lied about the jews, to get the germans onboard with helping the nazis put them in camps... so they could engineer and build mind control tech in secret
>>538344510why didnt the nazis just bury them alive? thats what i would've done.
>>538344462One of the most effective Hamas traps in Palestine is to disguise a bomb as a child and have a recording of children laughing or crying playing, because israel has enough psychos per capita that they hunt down children to murder and rape.
>>538344574No there was a holocaust but the allies did them too and also had second class citizens and camps. The conspiracy is you only hear about jews like that was the only aim of hitlers holocaust
>>538343603Germany had plenty of coal..
>>538344740Get in the camp Jap, get in the ghetto Nigger your kind can't work here or eat here, we need your food filithy irish and indians
>>538345111Hitler learned how to treat Jews by watching the United States
>>538345213it is true that the great generation was anti semitic. The boomers were the ones that started mingling with the jews.
>>538344262The original number was 750,000 (reported by the SS). But the jewish publication "Shem" (published for jewish readers) claimed that it was only half of that. And I don't see any reason for jews to lie to jews about the number. So the real number is probably somewhere between 300k and 1M.
>>538343603There were no gas chambers or death camps. There was only concentration camps. The Germans did to the Jews, what the united states did to the Japanese. Its perfectly normal to put potential enemies into camps during war.
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>>538345330That's because Christians taught deicide collectively blaming the Jews for the death of Jesus. Hitler was a catholic who was taught that and could see the church made them second class citizens. Some had so much money because the church banned anyone else from charging interest and it was needed for banking
>>538343603about 90% of the prison camps deaths were from typhus and exhaustionwhy feed people you are systematically killing? you just let them starve for 6 days.
>>538344544thrills don't last hundreds of hours, and what you're saying only makes more intense what I said. Putting psychos on meth and making them put rounds in kids will just make them unstable enough to kill anyone and anything. And even then, you'd never find enough psychos per capita anywhere to pull off that scale of killing. The denialism comes from retards who think million isn't a big number because their sense of scale is fucked up, it's a huge number>>538344574more plausible explanation at least, would have been a ton more plausible if exterminating certain groups of people wasn't explicitly what the german government at the time said it was intending to do through every possible messaging channel>>538344677wow maybe you should have gone over there and done something instead of hiding in canada about it
>>538345572The bloodlines, most importantly, but you'll get there. Hollywood trannies are a good one as well. In all cases you will discover the exsanguination of children. Adrenochrome, circumcision, abortion will come next. There are too many to list. Gogogo OP
>>538343603Anon that never happened. Anglojews lie.
>>538343603The same reason they blew millions of Reichmarks on retarded shit like V1, V2, Tigers, Königstigers, E-series, FG-42s, Krummlauf STG-44s, Dora and Gustav rail cannons, Horten, Ho-229, etc.They were autistic retards that preferred make-believe grandiosity over reality
>>538344510>PrisonerYou hang them on the spot, retard.Takes 5 minutes per yid.
>>538345775>The same reason they blew millions of Reichmarks on retarded shit like V1, V2, Tigers, Königstigers, E-series, FG-42s, Krummlauf STG-44s, Dora and Gustav rail cannons, Horten, Ho-229, etc.Are you retarded?
>>538344510drop floor hangings are not super slow.. and building cheap gallows is how the west was won...
>>538345840There were dozens of thousands of prisoners in the camps
>>538345657Meth abuse makes you not have empathy and stay up for a long time
>>538345959Then tie their trousers around their necks. What's the problem? They weren't walking the camps naked. Any retard looking at them at a glance could figure it out.>oy vey they were wearing dressesThen tie that around? >it was too looseThen wet it with their piss? I'm sure they still pissed, no? If they wanted to kill them they would have.
>>538344462There's hundreds of people on this site alone that cheered on the genocide in Gaza and made jokes about little kids still in diapers dying from wounds or starvation. I doubt it would have been hard. Look at Cambodia's history and Pol Pot.
>>538343603I would rather use an automatic guillotine
>>538345859>what's opportunity cost for 500All that money and effort could've been invested into the arms industry, enlarging it and making it more efficient, fixing design and manufacturing problems in existing hardware quicker, and just simply making more of the actually useful materiel instead of experimenting and burning through budget, time and manpower>Gee Hans, we have twelve Königstigers and be bombed a bakery in London with a dozen of our V2s!>Scheiße, we could've had 250 more StuGs and 50 more Bf-109s with that kind of money and manhours, not to mention the development time!
>>538343603u could argue it 2 waysthat it's preposterious that the germans who were all about efficiency would be ok with using poison gas to kill jews but not use it on their mortal enemy, the communist soviet unionor that the germans hated the jews so much that they were ok with using poison gas on them even while not using gas on their war enemies because hitler remembered the horrors of it in ww1there's also the possibility that they didn't use gas on the russians because they were afraid of the russians counter-using it on themkeep in mind the germans had the largest stockpiles of sarin and tabun in the world, over 12,000 tons of nerve agent at dyhernfurth and never used it
>>538343603right? is sound so stupid to be real.
>>538345894that and the Colt Revolver and Winchester Lever-action
>>538346165>peoplelol. lmao, even. The only people cheering the death of children are satanic and demon-possessed, long bereft of personhood.
>>538346552So, most American zionist evangelicals then. They are a wicked people
>>538343603A bunch of Jews died in the camps from a disease that spread and that started the rumor of Jews being holocausted.
>>538343603Believe it or not, bullets were a rare commodity, and the gas was an extremely efficient and effortless way to kill many people. It was cheap to produce and you could use it in any enclosed building.
>>538344174Er strafe es!
>>538346266more StuGs that would've been manned by whom exactly?The German choice of making fewer tanks but with higher protection and survivability was good considering their population relative to their enemies.Even this way they ended up having kids and completely inexperienced people driving their tanks late war. Shitting out loads of mediocre armor would've only amplified this problem
>>538343603it never happened - https://rumble.com/c/ScriptureandTraditionFrJM/videos
>>538346989Consider the fucking timeline. Consider the allies that could've been supplied with actually useful metal AND sufficient numbers. Consider all the saved lives if they could've provide more than enough hardware and man, what a crazy idea, if they finished the fucking motorization of the German army instead. No more need of horses, imagine that>muh fuelThe fuel consumption of all that premium hardware was incomparably inefficient to the point of being straight-up wasted in both development and actual fielding. Not to mention all the defects and fucked design, with them breaking down in the field, and recovery to add insult into injury thus consuming even more fuel, making the fuel waste ever worse
>>538345330They took one look at kikes and went nah you're a fraud, pick a better religion
>>538347188>the first jews who ever worked
>>538343603There were no "Gas-Chambers"... Period.There may have been a couple-of rogue experiments in gassing, but logistics of moving that many cadavers around is ridiculous.It was and will always-be a Jewish-Huckster-Op.You living the Cartoon-Version of WW II ZOG-Pimp-Extravaganza...Time to revise the Plaque- AGAIN. The BloodStone Report...http://www.crow96.20m.com/ausch1.htm
>>538343603Is it easier to dig mass graves than gas chambers?Anne Frank died of typhus. Even shooting them seems wasteful when there was disease and starvation.Why were they tattooed?
>>538346020Don't explain meth abuse to me canuckIt doesn't make a controllable person, anyone up for hours shooting kids on meth is a liability, you wouldn't be able to control them or they'd mentally break down, which is exactly what is documented to have happened and lead to more industrial processes
>>538347821>http://www.crow96.20m.com/ausch1.htm" records from the Auschwitz camp were seized by the Soviets in 1945, no scholar or researcher has been able to verify the claims of enormous slaughter in the Auschwitz complex."" In 1991, with the collapse of Communism in Russia, much hitherto secret material in former Soviet archives has become available to researchers"Synopsis - 1- No Mass Gassing2- Jews were a Minority at the CampsMost died from Typhoid epidemics. Carried by Fleas, Typhoid is/was a Biological-Warfare exploit.
>>538348333Lice - and Fleas
>>538347829They were tattooed for identification
>>538346165there is a massive difference between in-person and online, and even online you can tell the psychological toll it has on the retards who behave that way. You're completely right that the people cheering for it online are stupid in the head, but most of them would not be able to pull a trigger point blank in cold blood, especially repeatedly, because thankfully we're not wired for that. That's why they used sonderkommando, to keep the camp functional. Even the most degenerate thrill kill gaurd was only taking out a few a week because even sociaopaths/psychopaths can't find anything in repeatedly shooting unarmed people. They become uncontrollable and mentally ill, there's no documented case in history of someone ripping through hundreds of people point blank and still being controllable by any metric. You turn a human into a rabid animal and they'll bite anything around them and probably themselves first.
>>538348616>look at cambodia, pol pot, or short trees must cut the big trees Very good points. Rapid quick violence with a few people taking out 4-5 others and most often in hot blood. None of them resulted in a stable populations, mind you.Taking millions of people already in camps and doing it cold blooded by hand just isn't something humans do, no matter how much the edgiest faggot thinks he's cold
>>538348573why bother?
>>538343603>instead of just shooting themthey stopped that after the leadership started getting reports of troops in these duties shooting themselves
>>538343603Most actually were shot. No one ever claimed the entire 6 million were all gassed. If they did, they got the story wrong. Tuberculosis was another big killer.
>>538348985because they're german, dumbass
>>538348985So they can keep records. Germans were notorious for that. Then they tried to destroy as much evidence as posssible before the Allied forces showed up
>>538349209>destroy evidence>perma-tattoo everyonenah>>538349208said the poo
>>538344174Japan and germans got it bad. There was just media black out at the time. One day someone might expose ot talk about the f ed up shit the allies did to germand and japanese. I dont think people will be happy.
>>538344677Lot of isrealis have a concise majority of them are killing themselves or have PTSD. If you go looking for it theres some idf people who say how its bad we killed babies and children. Theres even famous ex idf that protest against the idf.
Wait. Where did they get the gas from if they couldn't support their war effort any longer?
>>538343603There was probably only like a handful of camps and even smaller ones with gas chambers. Jews love the theater. 6 million will shock you!
>>538349321The original narrative was a scientific, industrial killing machine. Everything was meticulously planned, measured, and organized for industrial execution.Then later on the narrative has shifted. They say now that these facilities weren't originally for mass murder, but were hastily converted to that purpose later in the war. They say things were more ramshackle, slapped together with pre existing materials. The morges were hastily converted to gas chambers, and then zyklon b was used because they happened to have that lying around.They needed to change their narrative because a lot of things don't make sense. Like the design of the gas chambers is super inefficient and nonsensical, why are they underground? Also we have records from earlier in the war so it's harder to paint that narrative.
>>538349321Believe what you want. I'm sticking with the facts.
>>538349209We don't know how the records were destroyed. It very easily could have been the allies. The records we do have don't indicate any mass extermination was happening.
>>538349881Hitler was asking around for people to turn over their jews, from what I recall we and Italians told him to fuck off
>>538349712a few pictures of a pile of shoes, tattoos, worldwide memorials (no other genocide gets), constant rewriting of the narrative, and nothing mentioned in De Gaules, Churchill, and Pattons memoirs until later editions?What facts are you sticking to precisely?>>538349659True, the shifting narrative in addition to the necessity to drive home into the next generations through brainwashing and jewwashing history books... it's all so tiresome.
>>538343876Germans aren't smart enough to pull something like the holocaust off and hitler was a complete failure. Thats why nobody believes the holocaust
>>538350041The entire government running on the promise of eliminating certain populations >it's all so tiresome.Could the US right wing stop appropriating what some other ethnic group said for once? Get your own zingers, stop ripping of the chinks and niggers for every catchphrase
>>538350096>Germans aren't smart enough to pull something like the holocaust offhow much are you willing to bet on this? they got into computing before allies.. on one German engineers personal project without state funding>The Z3 was a German electromechanical computer designed by Konrad Zuse in 1938, and completed in 1941. It was the world's first working programmable, fully automatic digital computer.[3]>Thanks to this machine and its predecessors, Konrad Zuse has often been suggested as the inventor of the computer.[14][15][16][17]>Calculating Space (German: Rechnender Raum) is Konrad Zuse's 1969 book on automata theory. He proposed that all processes in the universe are computational.[2] This view is known today as the simulation hypothesis, digital philosophy, digital physics or pancomputationalism.[3] Zuse proposed that the universe is being computed by some sort of cellular automaton or other discrete computing machinery,[2]
>>538350430The germans are so scientific and well organized, so how come they supposedly killed people with carbon monoxide fumes from a soviet tank engine in Treblinka? Not only does a diesel engine have very little carbon monoxide, but the Germans would have no access to an engine manual in German. This seems like a super ramshackle, inefficient process they set up.
>>538350172hope you get you .0001 rupees for these posts Dikshit
>>538343603>why did the Germans waste resources setting up gas chambers to kill 6 million Jews in the middle of a multi front war instead of just shooting them?The holohoax is a cartoonish lie, anon
Perhaps they were ethical genociders who didn't have the heart to shoot thousands of people so they went with more "humane" option.That gives me a thought. When you decide to go relatively painlessly, you do it with carbon monoxide. It replaces oxygen in blood, so you just short of thrift away to sleep where you don't wake up. Perhaps the gas chambers were real but they didn't use hydrogen cyanide but plain old regular carbon monoxide?
>>538343904No there wasn't you retarded fuck. There was a shortage of guns but if you retreated with bullets on you then you risked being court martialed for desertion
>>538343603The Nazis originally planned to have the Jews work to death in the camps, to exploit their labor. Heartless but efficient.Only when the war was already lost and the allies advanced, when the frontlines closed in on the camps, they decided to get rid of all the Jews within short time. This could not have been organized and executed with shootings that were tedious work and very stressful for the sane normie soldier, contrary to widespread belief.Using gas was also more economical than using bullets (quite a few for every individual) that would have wasted a lot of scarce ammo/metal. The chambers themselves could be built from materials of which they had plenty.
>>538343904so just DON'T GIVE THEM WATER FOR THREE DAYS.
>>538343904If it ever happened, my money is on medical trials.
>>538350854western whites are so worthless that even posting is a paid gig for them nowthey can't even fathom just being good at somethinggood riddance to bad rubbish, so say we all
>>538352409nah they do it for free. Western whites are required to work real jobs. And there is an expectation they deliver results. Coming here is kinda like a secondary hobby.
>>538348573Wait, why do the tattoos only go up to 6 digits at most of 2 million were killed?
>>538352851There were never even close to a million inmates in any camp at any moment in time.They would just reuse numbers of dead inmates for new arrivals. This was a mere bookkeeping issue. It wasn't necessary to identify individuals after their leaving.
>>538352540Get real faggot, this is your life and you double down here because every passing day it becomes clear that you deliver nothing. 10+ years of ups and downs and it's become obvious this is your last void to scream into while watching your women already hit the prostitution train and your men sit around waiting for manual labour to ze pod or the meatgrinder die slow, faggot
>>538343603Because Germans like to complicate things and create intricate systems to do simple, basic stuff like pest control.
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>>538353948That doesn't make sense. Why would you reuse numbers if you're as accurate as possible And if they did reuse numbers then how did they come up with 6 million?
>>538343603Because they needed to save the bullets for the Russians
>>538349070>Most actually were shot. No one ever claimed the entire 6 million were all gassed.This. In the camps, many were selected for work and then died from exhaustion and disease. Those not selected for work were gassed righta away. When the nazis conquered Eastern Europe where the largest population of Jews lived, most were not shipped to the camps but shot on site, usually in groups of several hundreds, and buried in makeshift mass graves. In a later event, the remains were dug up and burned, to destroy some of the evidence. If you actually cared to find out, you would already have read about all of this, the information is available. I don't know why I am summarizing this. Probably because my grandpa was in the SS and out of a german tradition of making sure everything is stated precisely.
>>538354325are you lonely today ranjesh?
>>538344386The Haavara agreement is Hitler politely asking Jews to fuck off.Also the soviets made agreements too so it’s a null point.
>>538344462Didn’t seem to bother any of the other sides.Stupid brownoid
>>538346989Dude, they would have just put some infantry into tanks. Same number of soldiers, better army.
>>538343603Murdering civilians in cold blood was just one of those things you didn't do back then. Even for the Nazis where were considered almost as bad as the communists. It was a different time.
>>538343603To trick them into thinking it was a shower
>>538343603Nazis found it psychologically debilitating for their own soldiers to kill dozens of Jews daily, so they invented technology to kill Jews en masse.
>>538343603setting up some camp is pretty easy and no ressource you need for war will be touched, you could figure this out on your own.
even airtight gas chambers made ouf of wood can be set up pretty easy. every sauna is made out of wood and has an air tight wooden door.>omg dat not possibru in muttlandyou create gaps like fuking retards and for you a sauna thats airtight is basically impossible.
>>538343603I think it comes down to the pizza analogy. In your conundrum you’d need at least 1 maybe as many as 5 ovens per pizza. Time elapsed per pizzas just wouldn’t square. Need hundreds of pizzas per oven if not thousands