"Universal suffrage leads to universal suffering"
>>538343899wish in one hand shit in the other, see which one fills up first
>>538343899He's not wrong.Only the poor should suffer.
>>538343899Curtis Yarvin is the future, city states led by the rich, absolute power to make and remake. It is the truth we've always known deep down but denied
>>538344038shut up yid
Actually, Musk and Israel are takers.
This retard mouth off whatever jewish shit of the hour.
>>538343899Musk is the biggest welfare scammer in history
>>538343899How is Elon not himself a "taker," exactly? The dude can't even play video games well -- he has to pay someone to play them for him and then pretend that it was him. Maybe this isn't just a silly thing some billionaire did. What if that's the entire pattern in a nutshell? Some dude, whose primary value is that he has a lot of currency, pays other people to do things for him and then takes credit for it. Isn't the "maker" in this circumstance the one who actually does the work? The dude he pays to build him a video game character, or a website... or a rocket. What is he actually bringing to any of this except things he already has? I think Elon is the taker, personally.
>>538343899He's not wrong. Democracy is a meme>politician take whatever decisions they or their handler wish with 0 input from their voters.>normally face 0 repercussions for it, at worst they don't get reelected (they are either way)>creates incentives to keep the population poor and retarded so you can buy votes with gives.>creates an incentive to just import your voter base>creates an incentive to build a divide within the population and a bigger incentive to keep the show running to hide the uni partyYeah so fucking much for democracy
>>538343899>EV credit king>accusing others of gibsmedat
>>538344228No the maker is the guy that can secure grants from the government to keep his electric car business running
why do people like to step around the real issue which is WOMEN ARE ALLOWED TO VOTE.all this talk about suffering and takers and makers is just dumb skipping the real issueONLY MEN SHOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE
>>538344228>I think Elon is the taker, personallyBecause you're an idiot.
>>538344038>greasy kike who makes brown midwits feel "elite"Nope
>>538344228>Isn't the "maker" in this circumstance the one who actually does the work?Musk does work. It just doesn't fit the communist definition of work.
>>538343899No system is immune to human psyche for the psyche is the one driving it.
>>538343899Elon bravely advocating the labor theory of value and calling for the abolition of the bourgeois democracy
>>538344358Oh? Dang. How am I an idiot, exactly? You should totally enlighten me with what I'm sure is an incredibly rigorous and well-reasoned rebuttal not only to the stated thesis of my argument but, indeed, the entire rotten worldview it must surely represent. Right?Do tell.
>>538343899Elong Musk is a taker, the dude's companies took billions in subsidies under Obozo to get off the ground. He also for the longest time relied on them selling carbon offset credits versus actually generating any real profits or economic value producing real product. But let's ignore all that and blame people barely surviving getting medical insurance subsidy or food stamps....as truly they are the issue not the multi hundred millionaire and billionaires and billion dollar companies paying no taxes due to loopholes and using 'debt financing' or borrowing against their assets to never pay a fucking red cent in taxes due to 'income'
OH MY GAWD GUISE CHECK OUT ELON MUST TWEETED A NEW THING I NEED TO POST IT TO /POL/ RIGHT AWAY!!!!! THIS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!!!
>>538344228No shit. Government subsidies are still welfare in the end, SpaceX wouldn't be where it is today without them and there hasn't been a significant payoff in exchange for those subsidies.
>>538344038the lower classes would smash those riches head in with hammers within months if that became the status quo
>>538343899wow wait until they read Atlas Shrugged!
Democracy isn't bussing in tens of millions of shitskins from the third world and letting them change all your laws so they take all your money. There's nothing "democratic" about that.
>>538344228It gets so much worse. Tesla wouldn't be around if it weren't for all the government gibsmedat that he received. And the worst part is that he's not even one of the real founders.He's the wealthiest welfare queen in human history.
>>538344381>Musk does workI remember when he was doing the DOGE thing, he was practically on twitter every waking momentand it didn't take long until the amount of scandals forced him to step downthe guy's a fucking joke
>>538344593The great experiment has failed and must be abandoned.
>>538343899We have a government ruled by corporate oligarchs. Their money alone buys them many more votes than we have. It’s why they are allowed to destroy homes and farmland in order to build data centers. Elon may actually think he’s hard working, but the truth is he’s a simpleton who was selected to be an oligarch. You can see this is clear by his rise in wealth. Nothing he has done has made the lives of others better or changed the world. Yet he’s the so-called richest man in the world.
>>538344038>absolute power to make and remakeoh look, its more rebranding taking as making
>>538344593Exactly! Capitalists like him DEMAND that the government floods the country with excess labour to drive wages down and then cause all kinds of social problems which he then tries to sell a solution to.>Oh, just get rid of democracy entirely then and give ME all the power!
>>538344498Because you're wrong? Without Elon how far along would rocketry be? We already know by looking at his competitors.
>people genuinely believe they are talking to elon there is no helping them his world, u people deserve everything thats coming
>>538344603>Tesla wouldn't be around if it weren't for all the government gibsmedat that he received.more than that, tesla market cap is extreme because of institutional investors gambling with xir 401k money
>>538344654America never was an experiment. The new world was colonized by Europeans (Whites) who wanted to get away from the oppression of the monarchies of Europe.
>>538343899>retarded jewish buttpuppet tweets nonsensewow this is super important
>>538344038The irony is that the city-states that are more democratic would be doing better in that system. But the elite in the democratic ones would not be doing as well (relatively). So they need to balance (as they always do) between the more rational and robust system that uses real democracy, so as to make the state more competitive overall, against the more stable and wealthy wanking system that rejects real democracy. These people legit believe they can have the benefits of democracy without any of it's downsides.
>>538344799He bought rockets Russia and strapped them on to a make shift cylinder. Did you not know that? All the tech Space-X has was already developed decades ago.
>>538344934What prevented someone else doing that one or two days before Elon Musk did it?
>>538344547>SpaceX wouldn't be where it is today without them and there hasn't been a significant payoff in exchange for those subsidies.SpaceX got most of it's money from gov contracts, not subsidies. How has it been 20 years and people still repeat your misinformation? Though right now it makes most of its money from StarLink.>there hasn't been a significant payoff in exchange for those subsidies.Ignoring the subsidies part, because you're wrong, SpaceX has SIGNIFICANTLY advanced rocketry to where everyone uses their rockets. The fuck are you talking about?
>>538344934I wonder if you believe this or if you're genuinely that stupid.
>>538343899It's in the bible.When men could not sustain them they began to devour man
>>538345042>gov contractsLong term contracts and available bailouts are functionally no different to subsidies, that's exactly why companies seek them out.
>>538343899No one getting any money from the government should be allowed to vote.>welfare>SSI/Disability>Military >Retired>Government employees>Owners and employees of companies who have government contractsEvery single person who gets money from the government always votes for getting more money from the government.
>>538345217Exactly. He still hasn't delivered shit for his moon mission contracts with NASA. Will keep the money regardless.
>>538344228>Isn't the "maker" in this circumstance the one who actually does the work? The dude he pays to build him a video game character, or a website... or a rocket. What is he actually bringing to any of this except things he already has? It's a dumb argument that you are trying to make because the person doing the actual building and the person who is leading people to do the building are both "makers". They are both fulfilling roles to bring value into the economy. Only a jobless dumbass would argue that a leader of a team is not important to the products produced by the team
>>538345180Which verse?
>>538344799Excuse me, but I'm not sure this is an adequate response to the original argument! The point was an analogy: Elon is to video games as Elon is to business. The thesis is that Elon pays other people to do things for him and then attempts to take credit for it. The two behaviors are directly analogous. If it is silly and likely wrong on some level to pay someone to play your video game character for you and then pretend you did it yourself, it may be wrong to pay someone else to perform business tasks for you and then not only take the credit but the lion's share of the rewards. Can you please stay on topic? We can talk about your point after you've addressed mine, if that's alright.
I think there is at least one thing we can universally agree upon.The world would be much better off today if the Confederate States of America had won the Civil War.
Why do we let billionaires live their pretend fantasy of being a builder and not a taker? He doesn't even know how his own software or rockets work
>>538343899the problem is, a woman is beautiful from 16 to 26, she needs to in that time find a man and stay with him for the rest of her life, once the men and women are 30 they should be stable adults instead, every woman is threatening divorce, every man is ten seconds away from losing everything
>>538345372Disagree we would be much better off if we had killed or enslaved all of the Southerners
>>538344271Singapore has a great solution >Freeze private property of anyone that enters a public function >In case of misconduct/ corruption expropriation and/or execution >Prohibition to be employed in public subsidized organization for 5 years after leaving public function
>>538343899replying to tweets an indian person had chatgpt write for them and going "yeah, that makes sense!"
>>538345268>money grows on trees dumbfuck
>>538343899Musk depends on government contracts and the H1-B programHe's a taker, too
>>538345446> wedo you mean your fellow puritans, transcendentalists, unitarians, unitarian universalists, secular humanists, and other jews?
>>538344349Only white male workers/employers should be allowed to vote.
>>538345569>Mmt Keynesian marxism is no biggy>GibsmedatBefore any reform your kind has to be sustainably genocided
>>538344381He installed a fucking gaming pc in his white house office, i legitimately don't think he works more than a few hours per day, if that.
>>538345446That's what you yankee carpetbaggers did, and look at the state of things today.Responsibility for this sad state of affairs rests entirely on the (((scoundrels and scalawags))) who prosecuted the War of Northern Aggression.
>>538345042>SpaceX got most of it's money from gov contracts, not subsidiesWhat's the difference
>>538345293Leadership is valuable and important indeed! A leader should be well and duly compensated alongside the rest of his team, for sure. But that's a little bit orthogonal to the point I'm making, isn't it? If I pay someone to grind my Path of Exile character, I very obviously did none of that work. I paid someone else to do the work for me and then was(/attempted to be) rewarded for doing that work. That is very legible and intuitive. Why is it that when I pay someone to build a rocket for me, I must instead be understood to be synonymous with the rocket-maker? More to the point: why is it that I am rewarded with unimaginable levels of wealth despite the fact that I can't weld, write code, or do the mathematical equations required? I can't dope an alloy, I can't model a vector -- I can't even work one of the machines on the floor. Why am I a laughingstock for taking credit for work I didn't do in one circumstance but given a pass in another?
>>538343899Women votersEverytime
>>538345865> you yankee carpetbaggers did, The carpet bag was invented and used by east european jews. Shit for brains.
Doesn't Elon depend almost entirely on government subsidies and tariffs to eliminate Chinese EV competition?
>>538345422musk, despite his faults, is one of the few billionaires that actually understands what is happening on the shop floor. there's no shortage of interviews that demonstrate this. there is a reason why markets pour trillions into tesla and spacex
>>538346126Where do you think (((yankees))) come from, you cretin?
>>538346318Britbong's shouldn't be on 4ch giving bad opinions. Anyone who works in software that listens to Musk talk about software realizes he doesn't know what the FUCK he's talking about. It physically makes me cringe to hear him talk about software yet alone obvious nonsense like "using black matter to travel faster than the speed of light" lol. Maybe Melon is effective in spite of that people retards like you can't tell the diff
>>538343899He just wants everyone to look at him
>>538345865We're in this state now because we didn't shit for brains. I know you ain't American cause they teach this in middle school.
>>538343899Fuck off with your clickbait thread.It wasn't Musk who said it in that image
>>538346494Economic slavery is still slavery, yankee cretin.
>>538343899Mamdani is like a couple months into his role and has achieved much more of his election campaign, if we somehow are comparing a Mayor to a President which is high praise btw
>>538346567So the South gets annihilated and the rest of us are in this mess. That's still a objective net-plus kek
>>538346422no need to get all tetchy cletus. I'll gladly be proven wrong. in terms of aerospace hes clearly demonstrated a working understanding of propulsion, mass ratios, manufacturing constraints, etc and hes often directly involved. perhaps he doesn't know much about twitter backend architecture, and honestly who gives a fuck. I don't want to know about that mess either
>>538343899>>538344349>>538345985>>538346567Shut the fuck up retards. Just shut the fuck up.
>>538343899>You WILL participate in zionism and the capitalist jewish scam, or we will kill you.Translated for the autistic among us.
>>538345268What about contractors and their workforce, i guess you would make exception for them, amirite?
>>538343899the simplest solution is that only tax payers get a vote. broke people always and forever just vote for gibs.
>>538346772>Twitter backend architecturewe both know he doesn't know anything about that cause Xitter still isn't fully operational after his takeover. but no I was more thinking about self-driving vehicles, you know, that thing that popularized Elon. Tesla's by today's standards are highly antiquated tech
>>538343899>Riches white supremacist in world>hasn't done shit to help white ppl>hasn't built a white only utopiaWhat did he mean by this?
>>538344038Curtis Yarvin is a kike that only fools midwit overeducated mulatto reactionaries. Perfect example of "baffle them with bullshit". It's a completely incoherent worldview unless you realize he's a jew here to shepherd the goyim into a kosher offramp for servitude.
Elon 2028Richer than trumpBaseder than trumpThis time, lets do it right
>>538346981have not kept track of tesla software. I'm basing this on his track record at spacex. and i personally know senior ex spacex employees who vouch for his management
>>538343899Elon Musk is the MechaHitler that was foretold
>>538346934Fck i sent message too early was supposed to have;>afterall Musk also has multiple and so does almost every big american company and if you count in indirect ones maybe only mormons are able to vote
>>538343899This retard needs to stop taking bait
>>538344693Money sticks to him like flies on a jamboyI wonder if he knows he's in a Truman Show
>>538345023Let’s say you or I was to start up a payment system for online transactions. How well do you think that would go? Do you think the government would just let us do it? That’s what Elon did with PayPal. Now let’s say we have zero knowledge on how to put rocket into space. We decided to get 13 billion in government contracts we will just buy rockets from Russia for a few million. Do you really think government would just let us do that and the media wouldn’t point out our obvious fraud? Now let’s say we start up an AI company and with the money we borrow to start it we use that money as collateral for an even bigger loan from another bank. Do you really think government is just going to let us do that?
>>538347150I honestly don't believe you. Your trusted managerial source is vouching for the Elon, the guy who promised we'd have people on Mars by 2018? lmao okay
>>538347272He’s obviously selected by actual rich and wealthy people to be the face of their oligarchs rule.
>>538343899>this technocrat oligarch with 50 jews on speed dial is heckin based guys
>>538344038>>538343899Every time the rich have tried to do this even their most "loyal" bodyguards end up strangling them in their sleep
>>538347431>He’s obviously selected by actual rich and wealthy people to be the face of their oligarchs rule.Yes, but does he know that?
How much do trillionaires need to shit in your face before you realize they aren’t on your side
>>538343899Absolutely retarded
>>538347389public relations =/= operational competence. don't out yourself as a pleb
>>538347522operational competence is in part managing relations and expectations. this is technical management 101
>>538347489Did Kanye know his wealth was all fake before he started criticizing the Jews who were controlling him? I don’t know if Elon knows it. He might be a retard like Kanye.
>>538347600last i checked SPCX commands a market cap of $1.5T+
>>538343899Of course he has. Its not in his interest. The notion that capitalism and democracy walk hand in hand is cold war propaganda. Musk has effectively won the capitalism game and he's an illiberal, anti-democtatic oligarch and wannabe despot.
Move over, Pedro. Elon is daddy now
>>538347723business success !== technical expertise. as you know full well I'm sure. I accept your concession with grace
>>538347600im not arguing hes bad at PR, he's actually very good at it. my point is that promising a crewed mars mission by 2018 is not a technical blunder, it's hype, and it worked
>>538344031>Only the poor should suffer.Why?
>>538343899The retard will only wake up when the political class claims he's is a parasite and put him in a gulag so they can take his stuff.
>>538344038madmani is the pet of anti white jews
>>538343899This sort of rhetoric will dance around the issue of:"Homogenous White societies, which many if not all Western nations enjoyed within living memory, are objectively superior in every single way to multicultural, multiracial rootless globalism."Until the day the current world order tumbles into a grave. No other words matter. No other issue matters.All statements like this are doing is attempting to conflate the overarching problem with things that are not the nexus of the problem in order to avoid addressing the problem whilst trying to eke out a crumb of more control over the status quo of society by pretending to recognize the problem.
Kek acting like mamdani is uniquely bad. He is the exact same if not better than every other tinpot dictator of an urban jungle we have had for 50 years. There are two reasons they hate him: 1. Muslim 2. Vocally anti israel. At some point rightwingers are going to have to come to terms with the fact that jews have taken over our movement with their infinite money. They probably have mossad agents freely wandering our land blackmailing and murdering.
>>538343899
Elon Musk may not be black but he's probably the biggest nigger to ever come out of Africa
>>538344214This. Fuck him in his jeet loving face.
Classical liberalism is the only reason these money-grubbing lowborn merchants have any power.
>>538343899I always think about that Murdock Murdock episode>we vote fo free Jordans, we democracy
>>538343899If we give him more money, he might finally help us
>>538345434Hey can you please explain the meme to me?
>>538344228The only makers in today's world are Jews running the fed, everyone else just redistributes the fruit of their labour.
Musk is the biggest scam artists thief in human history, him calling anyone a "taker" is so anger inducing it makes me physically ill.
>>538344381He should stop relying on governmental handouts and taking credit for what other people do, that's a lefty thing
>>538343899“Democracy” we support technocracy and meritocracy not majority rule.
>>538344031Blatant strawman. Only democrats cause suffering for the poor. Also please convert
>>538344038Shut up disgusting jew, kill yourself.
>>538345217Well this is a stupid fucking take.
>>538344137spoken like a true taker
>>538344031not how this works, the only ones suffering are goys and thats it. they even like it, they like it so much. my lovely little golems. they do everything for us. isnt this fantastic.its wonderful its a piece of art, what you have created, my dears.
>>538343899Democracy is the will of the majority and the majority are shitskins. Democracy only works to scale>>538343899
>>538343899What happens in 10 years when ai is the only maker?
