The goal of socialism is communism
>>538346526How about the goal of nationalist socialism?
>>538346526i dont believe comunism can be achieved. the goal should be state socialism
The ism-ism is the goal of ism, ism-ly
>>538346526Fucking retard created the pigkraineHrr tfu
>>538346526Communism will never work. Take the Juche pill.
>>538346526Not always.
nobody can define what it means. it’s like the rightoids’ version of how the lefties call everything fascism without knowing what that means either.
>>538346785I dont get why russians seethe at ukraine so much. They're just a group of russians who wanted away from russia and its constant war poverty and famine
>>538346613To establish a mythological past that has never existed and cannot existFascism, and national socialism by extension, is a vibes based ideology and a war declaration against objective reality.
I still need healthcare.
>>538346526Yes that is what "socialism" refers to in the Marxist sense, a society that is working towards "communism" which is supposed to be stateless and classless. But you are probably talking about some "socialists" who actually won't take substantiative action towards communsim and just want to have a welfare state within capitalism and want regulations and shit.
>>538346526Wow Lenin had read Marx.
>>538346613The goal of socialism is communism because it seeks to create a giant union of all peoples. The "One Big Union" concept of the IWW. This concept failed not merely because it sought to include prostitutes, niggers, and the homeless, but because it was undermined by groups like the AFL-CIO, which sought to create exclusive unions that only benefitted members. These were basically more traditional trade guilds, the sort that had existed for hundreds of years and a proven concept. National socialism is sort of like applying to Communism, which seeks to include all humanity, the same exclusivist guild principle, but rather than applying it to skilled tradesman, it does so on the basis of ethnicity. Think of a nation and its people as the guild; it is in direct competition with the other nations of the world and their guilds. This competition frequently leads to war and conquest. Is it a good system? No. It's the means by which rulers divide humanity into feudal fiefdoms and pit them against one another. But is it a proven success at dismantling communism and its goal of uniting the masses against the ruling class? Absofuckinglutely. And is it a system which allows for preservation of distinct cultures, thus maximizing true diversity of distinct cultures around the world? Again, yes. Communism and globalism erase distinct cultures. Ethnonationalism creates distinct and diverse cultures.The problem is that the kikes and aristocrats who divide and conquer us want the cultural erasure of communism to provide cheap labor while retaining all their wealth and control. They want to take what they want from globalist communism while retaining what they want from the divided guild system of capitalism. Because they're all fucking evil. The worst of humanity rises to the top. That's our curse.
Yeah he purged the socialists that disagreed
>>538346526Socialism doesn't have an intrinsic goal, it's simply the phenomenon of enough people socializing (engaging in non-profit business), just as capitalism is the phenomenon of enough people capitalizing (engaging in for-profit business).
>>538346613National Communism
>>538347595Yes, once there is a union and everyone is on board, some smart people will make it work, right?
>>538346526>Communist claims that all left-wing people are Communists and people are simply expected to believe his lies
>>538346526The goal of the right is totalitarian control. The whole political map is a circle, not linear. You have the centrists. Their polar opposite is a place where the left and right vie for total control. The goal is power over others.
