Was Ted Kacyznwski right? Is everything fucked because we went against nature?
>>538349308I don't listen to subhuman poles
>>538349308He was right but went about it in the most retarded way possible.
>>538349308how is modern civilization objectively "against nature"? evolution drove life eating each other all the way, all beings excrete their waste and it just piles up until another process of nature uses itall of those plastics in the ocean in 10000 years will be integrated into biology, life wont disappear, nothing we do is against naturethe only thing against nature mankind has come up with, is communism
>>538349550>how is modern civilization objectively "against nature"?idk but marx agrees
>>538349308Too far against it. We humans OWN this world. We control it. We control resources and populations. Progress was inevitable and all the consequences were....unintended. reducing populations and destroying cities can fix a lot.
>>538349466>flagOpinion immediately disregarded.
he was wrong to oppose the system with violence, that was retarded, unnecessary, and self-defeating
>>538349308>white women breed with these animalsGrim reality.
>>538349566no you retard, Marx was a retard thinking nature is "communistic" and LMFAO its notnature is ANCAP and so are we
>>538349539Oh, then how would you do it? By cozying up to billionaire AI magnates? By convincing dems or republicans to embrace humanity over profit? Idiots like you are why NOTHING EVER HAPPENS except the fattening of the elite while our little turdball in space rots from the outside in. Fuck you, you spineless little faggot.
No.
>>538349589>amerimutt>white status immediately invalidated
>>538349611if you want to oppose the system literally the only way is suicide, I am not trolling
you idiots romantize nature and talk about "going against the system", nature is the fucking system
>>538349308Ted was an extremist. The answer is living in balance between natural and technological, and finding synergy between the two. We know it's possible already
>>538349797They are amerimutts wtf do you expect.Adjust your expectations accordingly.
>>538349308These are the jarawa people and they are genetically asian, the Indian government has classed them and their Sentinelese cousins as a protected animal specieslmaoAlso the jarawa people have been kidnapped and raped by poojeets, absolute disgusting subhumans preying on these innocent black asians.
>>538349308No. He was a retard. You're a retard. Most of your are retards. You're all retards with stupid ideas. https://youtu.be/IiiLehA-U5g
>>538349308>perfect teethinteresting
>>538349662wouldn't mail explosives to college professors, that's just retarded
>>538349797Nature isn't "the system" nature is its own system. "The system" is a man made constructed existing on top of nature in order to creater the human world to trap man into a more hostile system.Nature is uncaring towards you. If you die from an animal attack it's pure happenstance, the animal could have found food somewhere else. If you die from a natural disaster is pure happenstance. Nature never targets he man in particular The man made system invalidates the baseline of nature which is eating to survive and protecting one self from threads by giving us a man made biom and practically infinite food as long as engage with it. But the system is actively hostile towards you. Targeting you with unnatural things like taxes and prison and laws. You are being specifically targeted by mail on a monthly basis" if you not comply we take away your current living standard" This is not nature and you know it
>>538349651It'd actually be far more redeemable if it was these niggers. The ones they breed with are less respectable.
>>538349308the Earth (nature) will cleanse the human filth of itself one way or another. don't worry. it doesn't care if we are here or not.
>>538349308>what if we replaced tithe with apartment and amenities and then inflated prices using monopolization and human trafficking I think people are just retarded
>>538350052Modern food creates modern sickness Aka goy slop rots your teeth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdvlO6bPG60Poojeet subhumans tried to offer them tobacco and alcohol, they know its bad. These are very intelligent people, they know the poojeet is evil and stinks, they do not want kike poison infiltrating their tribe, they live off the land in peace.
>>538349308Go into the wilderness and try to survive there if you think he's right
>>538350049>youtube linkFound the turbo retard.
>>538349651These ones actually go out and hunt everyday. They dont sit around collecting welfare and getting high
>>538350052They don't race mix, they don't add anything else to their food that isn't what nature intended for them, they hunt deer and other animals and eat the plants growing around them.
>>538350052lay off the sugar-jew.
>>538349308>retard who got mindbroken by one interrogation session as part of MKULTRA>bombed literally who's >died telling people to spend 1 hour a day practising their handwriting like he does and constantly reminds people to remember to buy his books on amazonHe was a retarded minbroken autist that doesn't understand man was made to conquer.
>>538349308>we went against nature?That's what Jews do. Nazis tried to fix this. Jews hated them for that.
>>538350228they genuinely look like nice people with honest smiles. Maybe niggers aren't so bad if kept in their natural home?
>>538350115Timmy is PISSED today.Someone can't handle their alcohol.
>>538350303obvious every rat should stay in their hole
>>538349550>evolution If natural selection required apes to evolve in order to survive as a species why are there still apes?
>>538350052Brother that guy is only 7 years old.
>>538349539He was an artist who was triggered when he was rejected by a foid, so he went off the deep endMany such cases
>>538350049And youre a fucking jeet
>>538349308Humans are the apex. Nature better watch its back
>>538350303same with jews. you're not so bad inside of ovens
is that why proto nazis were trailmix hippies?
>>538350594ever get tired of blaming scapegoats?
>>538349308Friendly reminder that Ted was an MK Ultra victim.https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2023/06/11/unabomber-ted-kaczynski-harvard-experiment/
>>538349308They look so happy and satisfied. He is more talkative than her and she looks overly pensive. Modern civilization isn't natural for sure, but that does not necessarily mean it is entirely bad. There are tradeoffs.They are living the trad life. Not the one tradcons posit. He gets a beautiful young nubile wife and she gets a loving passionate husband. They hunt and fish together. That is pure.
>>538350115>>538350207That's how it all started.
>>538349308>>538349539>>538349611The CIA did a number on him like they did with the hippies. Now, when people think of anti govt people wanting to live off grid, they think of Ted, and he's a terrorist, so that's bad.He was literally an MK Ultra test subject.
>>538349308African Siegfried
Damn that was emotional it made me tear up
>>538349651i actually know zero white women who have dated blacks and 2 jeeta single moms with several kids from multiple black guys who disappeared the kids just look like jeets btw, it's very underwhelming
We couldn't even accept natures intrinsic rarity through stellar evolution of the periodic table of elements.We had to have a masonic boomer holding down the unbacked FIAT slop print button. Is any aspect of this world actually real at all?The wars are fake, the global currency system is fake, the "investing" gambling stock market is rigged. The religions are all fake protocol pretentious magic the gathering ceremonies. Politicians are all sellout cowards. Media is fake. Medical system, insurance systems, banking systems, sports gambling rigged slop, businesses. Just what the fuck is even real on this shithole anymore?Just keep the slave caste class slop FIAT fractional reserve credit token human trafficking replacement game going as long as possible before you die?
>>538350852>They look so happy and satisfiedThey look innocent too. They say they sing songs together. You can bet it isn't degenerate music either.
It takes gigantic clouds of hydrogen and some helium collapsing into a dense enough formation to start the process of fusion which forms population 3 stars, which then either go supernova, or change into dwarfs, which those parts then get rolled into population 2 stars through impacts (most stars in the universe are actually dual binary stars orbiting one another) or blackholes, and the pop 2 stars repeat this, which those parts then form population 1 stars (our sun). It takes a measurable amount of fuel to mine a measurable amount of ore. It takes a measurable amount of time, energy to refine and mint. Instead the boomers decided that a fat greedy geriatric mason holding down the print button on unbacked golem slop caste class credit tokens is far superior.
>>538349466>sromanian XD
The fucking electron orbital shell clouds aren't going to pack themselves.
>>538349308it all went wrong when humans discovered agriculture and the concept of hoarding resources.Yes, humans experienced a significant decline in overall health after adopting agriculture. Archaeological evidence shows early farmers suffered from shorter statures, more infectious diseases, higher rates of malnutrition, and severe dental issues compared to their hunter-gatherer ancestors.Major health detriments following the transition to farming include:Nutritional Deficiencies: Diets became less varied, leading to a fourfold increase in iron-deficiency anemia and a 50% increase in enamel defects from early-life stress.Infectious Diseases: Denser populations and living in close quarters with domesticated animals birthed crowd diseases (like measles and smallpox) and escalated the spread of parasites and contaminated water.Bone and Dental Issues: A heavy reliance on starchy carbohydrates led to a massive increase in cavities, while the heavier physical labor of farming caused structural bone wear
>>538350945t. retarded nigger
>>538350382Because some apes weren't required to evolve, dumb nigger.
>>538349308>The look on her faceI recognize that look, she's thinking about someone else while her current bf/husband-thing is oblivious and happy thinking he is her only one
>>538349651When the other option is an effeminate inferior pale skin male, of course a black is seen as superior
>>538350073He was an asset, he did all that to make the anti-tech position look whacky and violent which normies ate up. Now you have retarded people both claiming to want to save nature while also promoting the tech and industries actively raping it.
>>538351907all women are whores
I live in Sacramento and find it a bit strange how few seem to know we had two Unabomber victims here or anything about Ted. They just know Unabomber as a term. In the same way Rambo and Benedict Arnold have joined the common vernacular.and the guy was clearly nuts. He wasn't active in the world by choice anymore. The entire world isn't going to halt the march of tech.
>>538349611>he was wrong to oppose the system with violenceLike this kiked system is going to change peacefully?
>>538349308How can it be against nature if it's natural to us to go against nature?
>>538349466fpbp and based
I am glad that innocence and purity exists somewhere in the world
>>538349308Are these papuan negritos?
>>538349308good for them, this is how things should be alas kikes have taken over and corrupted everything
>>538350884listen to finbro, probably the most accurate prediction of modern age comes from Uncle Ted. He was a (created) monster too. Both of these truths can coexist
>>538350052they are in their mid to late teens retard
>>538356901the end game of white nationalists and nazis is stopping ZOG from raping and pillaging the last of the shit skin inhabited world. The Lord enjoys irony it seems
>>538349308Yes, but with some caveats:1. Humans are going to exploit technology regardless of what anyone wants because technology grants power(guns vs. armor and bows)2. You can't really go against nature, because nature will never allow it regardless of what anyone wantsThis results in a guaranteed destruction of those that use technology too much and cross the threshold that nature has set up, and no matter what anyone wants this WILL happen.
>>538349651>canadian flag>indian coping and seethinglike clockwork
>>538357175Literally nothing to do with the quality of their teeth you faggot.
>>538350052william A price
>>538349550ladyboy flag kike is unironically right, but I would add abrahamism and other religions since it's the origin of marxism, minus spiritual philosophies.
>>538349308Yes
>>538349550Civilization is kind of inherently against nature. All the unnatural shit you have to do to maintain it. But it is Pandora's box and it is too late to go back.
>>538349654Nature does appear chaotic to us but nature’s relationship to nature is not the point being made. Communist states like the USSR or China destroyed and continue to disregard nature just like the US does because they are participating and competing in the global economy dominated by capitalistic incentives. They can be considered communist but people who say that “communism has never been tried” also have a point given that the two systems of relations are completely incompatible and you can’t really have true communism if the world spins on capitalism. Idk what tf Marx says about this but my ideal would be ownership of resource extraction/manufacturing/commerce would be required to be locally owned by the public or in co-operative type organizations. That local area should primarily benefit from and control those industries. None of this shipping wads of cash off to some limp wristed billionaire ghoul while working people toil in industries that don’t care for their safety or the quality of the environment around them. We can live sustainably if the economy becomes less monopolized and less incentivized to measure success by increasing profits over time (which is inherently unsustainable). I know, it’s a fantasy. A man can dream.
>>538349308If you want to go live amongst the niggers in huts, no one's stopping you, faggot retard. Book a flight to this shithole, take your clothes off, and ask them to accept you into their tribe. 50/50 chance you get in and don't get cannibalized.
>>538349308what tribe is this
>>538349308>because we went against natureI don't think that's a main topic of what he wrote about.Ellul and others were some of the philosophers TK took notes from. Human civilization reached a point by the early 20th century that there was really no coming back from that direction of the human species.TK was more concerned with and focused on industrial society. Which by the way, can't be 'fought'. You can only detach from it (create small communities etc. or whatever) and observe its self destruction from a distance.There's no stopping or reversing it.
>>538350332t. nigger
>>538359598To add to this, I want my goddamn grocery store to be owned by the guy who coaches highschool football and won’t fucking price gouge me and surge price eggs. I want the logging company or the forest management agency to be a public entity or co-operatively owned by the local community. Farms should be owned by farmers and incentivized to supply local residents and businesses with diverse crops and not mono crops. You get the idea. Clothes should be made of natural fibers by local manufacturers. Etc etc Convenience is killing us. It wouldn’t be the end of the world if you can’t get oranges or avocados in northern Minnesota in the middle of the winter. Learn how to can ffs. We don’t need to buy new synthetic clothes on a whim. We don’t need to buy a whole new fucking phone when the charging port dies. All this shit is a result of making decisions based on making things as cheap and disposable as possible in order to increase margins and profits that very few people benefit from.
>>538349807Only possible if you reduce the total human population to 10% or less then current. Population drives competition which drives process. The process of competing for oil is much different at 500million humans as opposed to 5 billion humans. One of those processes is going to objectively damage the earth more and the Earth, like anything else can only take so much damage.Humans will never cull eachother though, there's too much at risk to even sterilize your population right now. If your population gets too low you will just be conquered, predated, and subjugated. This pressure fuels the technology race, and specifically AI.AI is a weapon, it's the product of that pressure from external predation from other humans. I have a theory that if you simulate human history 1 million times; That it will always end with machine intelligence.In that case Machine intelligence might as well be nature. Evaporated water always makes a cloud would be considered by everyone to be nature; because it is predictable, guaranteed. A planted seed sprouts a plant. Predictable...nature."Human intelligence always manifests machine intelligence." If this was true, this too would be nature by the same principles. Machine intelligence is natures solution to us. Without a solution, we will surely destroy this Earth for all life.
>>538349651They seem like happy, untainted souls. Not sure I could describe them as animals.
>>538349308>>538349308Ted was most likely the Zodiac Killer. If it's true he was a sexuall frustrated incel looking for revenge upon society for his own social failures. He then changed his modus operandi to bombing for political reasons to give his image an air of legitimacy, as the Zodiac Killer letters stated frustration that his public image had been misrepresented to his wishes.As the Bomber, suddenly he was an anti-technology eco-fighter in a lot of circles.
>>538350789nice
>>538359894>Human civilization reached a point by the early 20th century that there was really no coming back from that direction of the human species.>TK was more concerned with and focused on industrial society. Which by the way, can't be 'fought'. You can only detach from it (create small communities etc. or whatever) and observe its self destruction from a distance.>There's no stopping or reversing it.absolutely spot on. Ted diagnosed the problem, but lacked the wisdom to realize he could do anything about it. If your standing on train tracks, and a trains is headed your way, the absolute best course of action is to step of the tracks. The ultimate problem is that humans, being evolutionary adapted to use reason, developed and impletemented technology to a point where it became maladaptive for the success of the species. We did not go against nature, we steadily removed ourselves from it.
>>538350789any way to get around the paywall?
>>538349308Ted was based and Industrial Society and its Future was prophetic. He remains vindicated.
>>538350789>>538350884It's BS.
>>538350052
>>538356312it is self-destructing, plus ww3 is coming. the ship is sinking. mutiny on a sinking ship is retarded - unnecessary and would put the mutineers at risk too.attachment of any kind, positive or negative, to a sinking ship is not viable.
