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>>538380506
But I can be against both.
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>>538380506
You can be loyal to Israel or loyal to America,
That corrupt pig is loyal to Israel.
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You can be loyal to israel or you can be loyal to America. You can be a zionist or you can be a patriot. You cannot be both.
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>>538380506
He's right but the same goes for zionism and capitalism.
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>>538380506
I'd take communism over this bullshit
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>>538380535
FPBP!
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>>538380658
im jewish
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>>538380506
Americans let jews rape kids
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>>538380506
funny coming from the guy who pulled a Leninist takeover
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>>538380683
we know
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>>538380506
What's with the anti-communist LARP all of a sudden?
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>>538380683
Yep, you sure are
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>>538380506
I choose Karl Marx what now migger?
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>>538380506
Trump and Steven miller are about to go Nat Soc after Israel’s betrayal. Finish what Germany started.
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>>538380506
How can one man be so based?
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>>538380535
If no one is around to hear the hue-monkey eek in the jungle, does he make a sound?
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>>538380506

>BOOMER KIKE TELLZ U WHATZ WHAT!!

lmao
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>>538380759
>gets thrown into a corporately run gulag as opposed to a state run gulag
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>>538380806
Marx was a boomer kike
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>>538380827
I’m gonna be the one throwing you in a gulag and if you like it I’m gonna have the pistol to your head and your gonna make your choice right then and there
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>>538380506
>it is communists who create your problems, not our corruption
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>>538380506
All the networks were trying to cover the big fireworks shows at the same time as his speech and they just started talking over him in a little muted picture-in-picture window
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>>538380861
>I get thrown into a state run gulag as opposed to a corporately run gulag
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>>538380506
I don't think anyone is "loyal to Karl Marx." I think economic collectivism is a rational and predictable response to incredible wealth concentration. It's just basic cause and effect: the rich gather a larger share of the pie and the poor wonder why the rich have everything while they have nothing.

In reality, patriotism and republic are totally separate concepts from capitalism. Obviously, when the constitution was drafted, the world was largely still mercantilist in nature. The Constitution actually encodes very little with respect to capitalism, which came much later. Current protections of capital, rather than being a constitutional fact, are largely ex post facto creations of Supreme Courts and legislators... you guessed it: chosen by early capital.

Capitalism is actually kind of incompatible with democracy, if you think about it. It's a system of economic autocracy in which power flows down from the few to coerce the many. Democracy is supposed to be more level.
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>>538380728
Like three progressive canidates won their seats in the New York state elections and now everyone's freaking the fuck out screaming red terror
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>>538380946
As if trump understands or cares what communism is. All he cares about is that there's a group that wants to tax him and his friends. So he chose the biggest bogeyman, the jewish propaganda planted in american minds, to vilify this group.
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>>538380984
I think the bigger picture is why is Hochul so meek to the commies? Zohar Mommydaddy swinging his dick around, AOC's big milkers, and Hochul is turning more and more into a dried out human-olive.
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>>538380946
True.
If "the super wealthy" wonder why there's more support for "wealth redistribution ideology" or whatever, then a system has to be more equitable, how that's done answers vary but one example is you can't have people buying up all the housing (or other things that people need to live, like water utilities), then making everybody rent serfs perpetually on the edge of being kicked out of where they're living. Public housing isn't even a "left wing" thing, Lee Kuan Yew knew why it was important and Singapore is held up as capitalist paradise.
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>>538380506
Someone should ask him to define communism. It will be funny.
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>>538381026
She sees which way the wind is blowing. Overtly obstructing DSA, especially right now, is not a great idea for her. She could easily end up being the next old guard dem losing a primary. She has to play ball.
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>>538380506
I wish Donny was the Bundeskanzler of Germany
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>>538380506
Does this mean he's about to start war in Cuba now to make it up for Iran and failing economy?
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>>538380506
the fact that Trump says this shit means there's a real concern at the highest levels that the American Capitalism®™℠© is failing
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>>538380506
Doesn't he mean Israel.
Or I guess give your money to America's government so they can fund free education and healthcare in Israel.
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>>538380797
Wanna find out? 9/11.
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>>538380938
Correct yes you are going in the state gulag reform or I’m going to make the choice for you comrade
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>>538380597
Israel is an ally of America. Real American patriots (such as Trump) support Israel for this reason.
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>>538381211
Capitalism and communism are the same thing. It's why commies are never silenced, deplatformed or opressed in any way in a capitalistic society. To me this is an obviously desperate attempt to save his falling ratings by portraying himself as some based fighter against communism. Never mind that he hasn't done jack shit nor he ever plans to do jack shit against it.
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>>538380658
Feel free to move to north korea, retard
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>>538380728
Trump has always been anti-communist
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>>538380913
>>it is communists who create your problems
Correct. Reds advocate for everything I’m against
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>>538381613
> Capitalism and communism are the same thing.
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5 years ago, we would bully the communism general off the board. Now we're overrun with third world shitskins and their reddit faggot friends who kvetch when somebody disparages communism.
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>>538381643
Name me one anti-communist measure he has taken.
>>538381685
You heard me, right, Shlomo. Both are vain materialistic ideologies with the goal of creating mindless rootless husks whose sole existence is measured in the worship of money
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>>538381609
golem presence detected.

>>538380635
The 1st priority, your real loyality, your will and passion should be to your race, your Volk. Not America, which is at this point just a grifting casino.
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On what? He's a crook with a big mouth.
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>the billionaire doing inside trading and giving money to his cronies really spoke to me!
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>>538381504
>you're a faggot farting in the wind
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>>538381873
kek this
of course he'd defend the system he's part of and benefits from tremendously
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>>538380506
donald is neither a communist or a patriot.
he was raped.
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>>538381821
> golem presence detected.
Not an argument
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>>538381771
You’re retarded
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>>538380506
I am only loyal to Israel
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>>538380984
Kek Amerigolems never cease to amaze me.

> 0 vacation days
> fire at will

Goodluck building a future on one with 0 security. Americuck wagie loses his job and gets a foreclosure half a year later.
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>>538380535
door #3. They don't like door #3. thats why they never mention it.
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trump can be a patriot, or a slave to israel. he cannot be both, no matter how hard he tries to convince you he is
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>>538382454
We just have so many decades of protections for capital at this point. Early capitalists recognized that ownership of the courts was probably the most important part of disciplining labor. They did this almost totally unopposed for nearly 80 years from the middle of the 19th century. Then, in a brief interlude from total capitalist control due to total and utter failure resulting in the great depression, we were able to encode a few policies and protections for labor, including social security.

The story of American domestic politics in the century since can very plausibly be viewed through the lens of rich people trying to totally and completely undo what minimal protections we have against them... and they've largely succeeded. Social security is nearly dead. Taxes on the wealthy are near gilded age levels. Inequality is at or exceeding it, and naturally you now see collectivist movements as a direct result.

Time is a closed loop. We may need another revolution to really solve this. I hope not.
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>>538380535
this is some very anti-semitic rhetoric

don't make us freedom bomb your children's hospitals to preserve our democracy
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>>538380506
Jewish
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>>538380506
Based.
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>>538381724
So this site has improved and is not as much of a neocon shithole as it used to be
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>>538380506
90% of the time I have no fucking idea what this dumb nigger is going on about?
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>>538380635
communism is VASTLY more jewish than capitalism

corporatism however, is very jewish
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>>538382939
>the ideology that wants to destroy israel and kill rich people (the vast majority of whom are jews) is jewish!
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>>538382335
Nice argument, jew.
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>>538380597
this.
he's a JEW
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>>538380506
are you loyal to jews?
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>>538383001
>the ideology that wants to destroy israel and kill rich people
Is this supposed to be a joke? If commies actually wanted anything of the sort, they'd have done it. Instead they are trying to kill wyppipo, participate in pointless culture wars and serve the Jew in its entirety.
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>>538381821
>The 1st priority, your real loyality, your will and passion should be to your race, your Volk. Not America, which is at this point just a grifting casino.
Culture is a byproduct of race. America is white people. Notice how everything has turned to shit since kikes flooded the country with niggers, spics and muzzies? America as it was intended and as it will be again can only exist as a white nation.
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>>538382939
Capitalism is communism though at a slower pace. It's end result is the same: centralization of power.
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>>538383176
The Soviet Union and Cuba expelled Jews. Hugo Chávez single-handedly created antisemitism in Venezuela.

On the other hand Jews helped create the Chinese Communist Party and Israel was created with the help of the Soviet Union (which is the reason why Spain never had a good relationship with Israel: Franco hated them because they were aligned with the Soviets).
>muh white
All socialist countries have been deeply nationalistic.
>muh culture wars
All of that was manufactured by American corporations and more specifically Blackrock. No, American corporations are not communist you retarded subhuman.

My point is that the entire thing is far more complex than your stupid cold war-era propaganda. Jews have always played on every side of conflicts and so have commies and corporations.
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>>538381243
literally any slum anywhere in brazil lol
what if BOPE gassed you lol
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>>538382313
>golem presence detected.
>Not an argument
let's see

You're saying zio shilling stuff
>Trump has always been anti-communist

and outright lies
>Israel is an ally of America. Real American patriots (such as Trump) support Israel for this reason.

Communism plays no role anymore, it's not a force, barely an ideology and nobody gives a crap about it because it's irrelevant. China is very successful mixture of capitalism and NS. It's not communist by any definition.
Pisrael is the blight of this world, certainly of the White man's nations.
Pisrael was never, ever an ally to anybody except to himself.
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>>538383877
Answer the question. You wanna find out?
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>>538380728
Since Trump is a banana-republic-tier corrupt conman more and more young Americans are openly talking about Marxism and socialist policies. Several politicians that openly talk about real Marxist policies are winning popularity.

So basically Americans are retarded and Trump makes everything worse.
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Would communism offshore our factories to China for the last 20 years?

Would communists make me get a 'side hustle' to pay rent?
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>>538383658
That's just human nature at play, which is why the goal is making the interest of the ruling class aligned with the people
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>>538382905

I've been following Scoop for some time now and central casting schtick is something I thought he does a bit "too often" but then I remember he's impersonating this old retarded jewslave senile boomer.
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>>538380506
>"You can be loyal to Israel or you can be loyal to America. You can be a zionist or you can be a patriot. You cannot be both."
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>>538380506
Very based.
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>>538380506
this made me like communism more
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>>538385516
That's the intent. Hate capitalism or communism, hating system is fucking retarded. I hate kikes and free masons both at the origin of communism and USA and Trump never miss a occasion to grab their cum.
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>>538380635
oy vey don't be unpatriotic like that
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>>538385639
>hating system is fucking retarded. I hate kikes and free masons
Very wise choice. Don't expend effort caring about the systems under which you actually live. Instead of taking these systems seriously, learning how they work, and investing yourself in taking real actions in the real world rich can actually affect these systems which govern you, it's much better to instead expend all your effort against imaginary, metaphysical conspiracies. After all, these systems are hard and complex and if you try to learn them and if you try to actually change them according to their discrete, knowable machinations, you might fail in the end regardless. That would totally suck -- to have a real goal, to know how to accomplish it, and to still fail.

It's much more psychologically comfy to hate jews and masons. After all, because neither of these groups have tangible mechanisms through which they govern the world, you can kind of just... make it up. A shadowy conspiracy is shadowy in just the right way -- "the truth" is always right around the corner. You just have to make up a new connection which, because they're so dang shadowy and conspiratorial, never actually has to be tested against reality.

It's the perfect cop-out.
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>>538380535
FIPPITY BIPPITY
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>>538383828
>The Soviet Union and Cuba expelled Jews
No, they didn't. I don't know about Cuba but the Soviets in particular paid the educated jews to migrate to Israel with state money in order to strengthen it. They were never expelled. Jews and the Soviet Union have always worked hand in hand.
>All socialist countries have been deeply nationalistic.
What do you mean by 'socialist' countries? Because you can argue Nazi Germany and Italy were 'socialist'. Or the Roman Empire. In contrast, you can argue that Sweden and Denmark are socialist and they are anything but nationalist. But if you mean communist countries, no, they have never been nationalistic in any sort of way. Just like capitalistic countries, their motto has always been internationalism and the proletariat.
>All of that was manufactured by American corporations and more specifically Blackrock. No, American corporations are not communist you retarded subhuman.
And who is the biggest golem of these corporations, you retard? Commies like you. The LGBT shit, the tranny shit, the shitskin plight, the cancelations, the surveilance state... Always commies that have been the good little golem of jews and their fight against white people.
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Christ wouldn't be a patriot. That's beyond Trumpman's understanding.
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>>538380506
>muh commies
>2026
tv-fried boomer brain will salute to this and approve sending 6 gorillion USD to Israel to fight neo-liberal-gommunism
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>>538381643
Communism hasn't been a threat in like 50 years
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>>538386908
uniparty warmongers have to keep the fear rolling so they can fund ukraine and israel money laundering dem programz
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>>538380506
>Karl Marx
Wow, he is regressing to his youth, last stage dementia.
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>>538380506
Why is he crying about communists in the year 2026?
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>>538380506
This orange boomer is truly stuck in the 1960s
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>>538381609
>Israel is an ally of America
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>>538382313
swallow shit, Sukdeep.
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>>538382313
Slit all bong throats
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>>538380728
It's an easy boogeyman term since the average American from Kansas or whatever doesn't know the difference between socialism and communism.
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>>538380506
its getting harder to not be a communist when you see the people that are scared of it.
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>communist spook in fucking 2026
senile ass boomer
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>>538386804
Yes they did. The Stalin and Lenin had completely different approaches to judaism.
>you can argue Nazi Germany, Italy, Sweden and Denmark are socialist
Yes you can because you're retarded.
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>>538383130
Trump is episcipalian
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>rails against communism
>says Obama was the greatest president we ever had
This idiots just saying whatever now.
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Is bringing back "Red Scare" politics really going to help him in the mid-terms?
Marxism, for all intents and purposes, died decades ago.

>most people who call themselves "Marxists" these days are troons who are actually more aligned with liberalism.
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>>538389685
>Yes they did. The Stalin and Lenin had completely different approaches to judaism.
No. Both were jewish. Lenin instituted anti-semitism laws. Stalin furthered them and created Israel
>Yes you can because you're retarded.
Socialism in its most basest form means combine and share. It has existed since the dawn of time. Practically every country is socialist at its core because you cannot have a country without cooperation. Communism is just the extreme of socialism. You have zero arguments, ya dumb commie. You don't even understand your own ideology or the history of it.
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>>538380506
Karl Marx was more based than Trump, unironically
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>>538389759
Trump has injected enough kike semen to mostly be jewish.
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>>538380946

Trump is an oligarch who was elected with funding by oligarchs who has repeatedly acted to protect oligarchy. I actually was opposed to the hiring of 80k it's agents by the last ad.knisyrayion, but the more I see from these wealthy tax avoiders, the more I realize that these agents would have done a lot to help America.
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>>538389883
Karl had around 13x times more braincell grey matter.
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>>538380506
"It's not the 1% and corporate greed that's making your life miserable and unlivable" said the Grifter in Chief. "It's Communism!"

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure, Donny.
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>>538389883
And yet he has made the most jewish ideology of all, entirely focused on self-interest, huckstering, and money. The only supporters want to take money and power for themselves through violent theft rather than good works, and attempt to deceive others into thinking they will have their share of the loot.
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He won't do shit because all the communists are gay jews who pay his ticket.

Faggot
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>>538380506
Who is he loyal to?
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I AM NOT LOYAL TO KARL MARX
I AM NOT LOYAL TO DONALD TRUMP
I AM LOYAL TO SOCIALISM & THE UNITED STATES.

Vote DSA. It really is that simple.
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>>538380506
You can be loyal to Israel or you can be loyal to the USA. You cannot be both.
How's that Donnie?
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>>538380535
Cupainho u amu paizin lulu
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>>538390886
>vote Dick Sucking Authority
only if you're all jewish women with massive tits.
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>>538390936
Esse é outro que está vivo por minha boa vontade. O meu problema é quem fica tentando me matar, mas o jogo é o jogo. Não é?
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>>538391005
You all treating your politicans like that is completely fucking delusional and you need to get a grip. American society (at least the "conservative" parts) needs to get a fucking grip. A politician should not be celebrated and especiallly not worshiped. Poluism is a bad thing, not a good one.
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>>538390886
Shut up fag.
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>>538390886
>It really is that simple.
It really is. Instead of blaming everything on a shadowy conspiracy of jews and just spiraling endlessly down a whirlpool of hate boners, DSA actively aims at probably the single most important target: AIPAC. Kill AIPAC and you kill Israeli influence on the US in one fell swoop. Your head will fucking spin at how fast our representatives stop prioritizing Israeli interests... because they're no longer being paid to.

Instead of trying to erect an economic Rube Goldberg machine composed of tariffs to bring "force" businesses to bring back manufacturing and raise wages... DSA just wants to (correctly) apply subsidies and then strengthen unions. You guys blame this on business when you should blame the literally fucking ontologically-evil politicians who sold you down the river by killing unions.

The rich will scream and fight as hard as they can to avoid paying taxes, but we can make them. All you have to do is literally just look up who the DSA candidate is on your ticket and vote for them.
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>>538393832
How realistically how can we dismantle AIPAC.
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>>538393864
It's not going to be easy, honestly. This SCOTUS actually quite likes rich people in general being able to have disproportionate influence on American politics. They invented the doctrine that money is speech, more or less. It may take some impeachments and/or adding additional seats to the bench such that Trump's picks can't meaningfully obstruct us.

But it's 100% possible to not just kill AIPAC but literally every single other lobby (there are many) which spends money to circumvent our democratic process. Even if it's only AIPAC we kill, AIPAC lobbies on behalf of a foreign government. Getting rid of that can only be a good thing.
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>>538394080
speaking of scotus, roberts is about to face a shitstorm



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