How you see Ukraine-Russia war ending, realistic?
>>538385326IN THE YEAR 2525IF MAN IS STILL ALIVEIF WOMAN CAN SURVIVE
>>538385326By removing hohols and you moving there
The cleanest would be cooperation in secrecy between the US and Russia, both deploying nuclear warheads, one on kiew one on Tehran.
>>538385326Pyrrhic Russian victory.
Blowing up the entire international institutional set up from un, over imf, nato, who.... And creating a new world order, carving up the planet among each other while neutralizing as well chinaA stable duopoly
>>538385326I don't see it ending ever. until both men dying of old age. Then the order followers won't have anyone to take orders from and the fighting will just naturally stop on it's own. Both men are incompetent. And both men have too many order followers. So they'll just fight by proxy indefinitely.
Putin dies
>>538385326I honestly believe that Russia went easy on Ukraine. Almost too easy. If it was up to me I would have deployed air force to strike Kiev to the ground on day one.
>>538385326it stops over night and they pretend it never happened while some new psyop takes its place in the media.
There will be a speech like 25th of Dec 91 and everyone will be really surprised. Russia are really good at hiding how bad it really is. If they learned one thing under communism it's pretending that everything is fine.
>>538385326Russia wins, keeps clay, Ukrainefags seethe with a rage reee able to be heard around the world. Copes with dead Russians.Then what Estonian said and Jews flood and settle the place as Israel II kosher boogaloo.>>538385432That in-effect, and the outcome was going to be that from day one.Wow is Russia laughable at waging war though.
>>538385463they're incompetent because they don't have the required intelligence necessary to get themselves out of the mess they started. not incompetent because of their lack of ability to strike. that part is clear. Each man's country going to complete shit. Each man declaring victory is near every 6 months or so.
>>538385490Frankly I'd have slammed some hypersonics into Lyiv.Hit the westernmost city and remind the Ukrainians that ALL of them can be killed, because the way it looks this war is being pushed by western Ukrainians who don't really care about the eastern Ukrainians being killed.If you just wiped a few dozen thousand western Ukrainians out in one evening there would suddenly be a lot less eagerness from them to throw their countrymen into the meatgrinder.
>>538385562Very true. The recruitment layer is what has destroyed the US, Russia and every other Keynesian marxist shithole. The only staff they are able to get, are mercenaries. Any mildly clever human sees through the grift instantly, is disgusted and won't touch their organization with a ten foot pole.So mercenaries with no loyalties and no ideals climb up the career ladder and just make the problem worse. Every new batch more incompetent, mor illoyal, more disgusting than the previous
Frozen conflict.
>>538385523Yeah. I really expected better from the Russians.It is the first "peer-scale" modern war with reasonably advanced countries though, for a long time, so I wonder how much of the fail is due to Russian incompetence/corruption and how much is because war is just like that now. (Reminder that Ukrainian competence is hardly any better. If it were, they would have pushed the Russians out by now.)Can't wait to see the kind of bullshit that will happen once China gets in a big war. Russian prison-conscripts will look like Navy SEALs by comparison.
russia surrenders while claiming victory, just like the war in iran
>>538385326kiev loose 50% of their population in 12 years
>>538385432That's what I was thinking in 2023 and thereabouts, but honestly at this point I think Russia's going to actually wind up collapsing unless they come up with some kind of solution to the whole refineries and O&G infrastructure problem. Which is possible. I don't know what the solution would be, but war does force innovation and Russia could come up with a counter. But if they don't, they're fucked.
>>538385326Why end it?
>>538385326Not a decisive military victory by either side, but an armed ceasefire that freezes the front lines without fully resolving the conflict.
it will end in tears
>>538385326The only end I see is Russia taking the pieces of Donbass that are still under Ukrainian controll and call it a day.It will be painfuly slow, cost thosands of lives and the territories will be totally destroyed.
>>538386461Maybe. I haven't kept much up to date with it after a year or two of hearing "IT'S OVER 2 WEEKS TO TOTAL ( Ukrainian / Russian ) COLLAPSE" (circle this week's loser)
>>538386353One key piece missing from both sides is a strong and modern air force. So the question is if having one would re-enable the pre-drone maneuverist approach.
>>538385326The same way Korea ended 3 months after stalin died, except it will be Putin in this case
>>538386353China is never going to get into a big war. Fucking Vietnamese guerillas are pushing the ccps shit in
>>538385326At some point Russia will stop invading because they've run out of resources and then both sides will declare themselves the winner and years later we'll see videos of slavoids talking about what the hell it was all for (they still won't realize their leaders just sent them into the meatgrinder because they're even satanists who enjoy causing suffering)
>>538385326ukraine is a shell of its former self, real estate and mining moguls are foaming at the mouth to get access to ukraine, and their isn't going to be many men left to resist the picking apart of ukraines corpse because zelensky is a cowardly fool who would rather take the fantastical lies from the west living on stolen money than deal with the reality they will always share a culture and a border with russians, my heart also goes out to the young girls in ukraine god knows what they are going through, i was saying this in another thread but we all know what goes on during war, and even before the war ukraine was a corrupt country, can you imagine what horrible shit is going on their getting covered up by the western government power structures because their fingerprints are all over the war machine that ukraine became, horrific.
peace
>>538385326The amount of child bearing age Ukrainians is about half of what it was with a good portion of them scattered to the wind with the largest group reabsorbed into Russia.At the same time they are now full off a large population to older people with no one to support them.I'm not sure Russia started with these intentions, but now it seems the Ukraine will either end up getting re Russified like Belarus, or if they give up now the West will do the same but with massive amounts of non-European foreigners.
>>538386650Why do this to Russia? Why?
>>538386606oh man I wanted to see a battery of tofu-dreg artillery all exploding trying to fire some shells
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>>538385326>How you see Ukraine-Russia war ending, realistic?With Russia getting more desperate and opening front in Baltics, involving Poland. Brief fight in Suwałki with attack from Białoruś, real one being towards Lublin, with Rzeszów airport and my job being bombared with long range missiles and drones.Then there would be faggotry for half a year and Russia would leverage lack of involvement with Poland and Balts to get what it wants in Ukraine. Also Estonia ceases to exist as independent nation, Latvia probably too. After concensions and peace talks, russia experiences military coup few months later not unlike what happened in 1991 but this time successful. In later years russia fractures, ukraine regains what it lost, Poland gets into big economical crisis, Balt / Belarus situation goes fubar.
>>538386713You get Chinese subs getting caught in their own sub traps and battle cruisers running a shore and sinking in shallow waters
>>538385326With the unconditional surrender of Poland.Russia's pretty fucking mad.
>>538385326>How you see Ukraine-Russia war ending, realistic?Ukraine comes out sovereign out of the conflict, at least on paperUkraine depopulated with around 25-30mil remaining with unsustainable amount of retirees to working age population ratioUkraine accepts land losses towards Russia, can't predict how significant but there will be. Certainly Crimea still will be in Russian hands.Ukraine accepts generation crippling loans from Germany, France etc to pay for rebuildingRussia rebuilds refining and uses it to pay for rebuilding the captured land and anyone/anything else that also suffered during conflict. Also uses the experience and time to design anti-drone systems.Few years pass and conflict reignites. This time Ukraine stops existing.
>>538385326The Russians will annex the east and make a "security Zone" on top because Ukraine annoyed them too much. Ukraine, if anything is left will be flooded with Africans and indians to replace the lost labour forceWe will see the world's first 5th world nation on the border of Poland and eastern Europe will have their own refugee stream coming in from ukaine because nuggets will go into Ukraine legally and leave for Poland
>>538385326>How you see Ukraine-Russia war ending, realistic?Soon because Bibi wants it now that America alone cant take on Iran. Then all of Europe will assist America in invading Iran while Israel annexes Lebanon and Syria.
>>538387390Tell us more about the jew moohamhead
>>538385326More Indians in UkraineMore white people sucking jew dick
>>538385326frozen conflict like the Korean warbrownoid turdies claim a Russian victory, while White Westerners claim Ukrainian victory Ultimately, both parties have lost
>>538386911>With the unconditional surrender of Poland.>Russia's pretty fucking mad.Gloves come off now?
>>538385326It will end once USA, Canada or Europe has a civil war due to illegal immigrants chimping out and creating their own state.
Monke will fall of a balcony. Russia will balkanize and tens of new independent republics will show up.
>>538385326>EndingRussian collapse. Not by Urkaine, not by war, but by the sheer idiocy of Putain not admitting he fucked up and draining it all. The last soft power it has left is belarus. ALL the influence Ruski had over the world has zeroed. Finland neutral? Gone. EU friends? Gone. Venezuela? Gone. African operations? Gone (bonus points, those guys betrayed you). Syria and Mediterranean access? Gone. Equal positionwith India and China? Gone.All for 2 regions of Ukraine. ALL FOR THAT. Explain that making fucking sense.
>>538385490They did. Why do you think that the "ghost of Kyiv" was a thing? Putin though this was like a game and threw every military unit in the border thinking the tanks would never need fuel or the marines would never run out of bullets and paid the price for it
>>538388110Sorry, I forgot bonus rounds of making NATO remilitarize and giving them a training ground for drone warfare so they are prepared.
>>538385326>How you see Ukraine-Russia war ending, realistic?make russia literally unable to continue to fight or field an army, kill them
Russia will take everything to Odessa. What is left of Ukraine will use basically terrorism against Russia in a soft cold war fueled by Europe and the US for the next 30 years.
>>538388188post us the political map of your parallel universe earth
>>538385326The war is going to end next winter. Once Russia takes the whole Donbas, they're gonna give up on conquering Kherson and Zaporizhzhia, and the new border will run along the line of contact; a Korean style DMZ will also be established. Ukraine will be neutral like Austria, under British and Polish guarantees. A massive amount of kikes will start flowing into Ukraine like the did in 1947 with Palestine, with Plantir, jewish AI, Mutt advisors and the TCC ensuring the native slavs won't rebel. Zelensky the kike will call this a "repopulation program", and as jewish fertility rate is four times higher than the Ukrainian one, in 20 years kikes will be the majority of the population. They will take over the old and decrepit Slav society, establishing new khazaria under the guise of the jewnited slaves of muttmerica. By then, greater Israel will be also created and Turkey will be destroyed. Then, Ukrainian Slavs will be put in Bantustans, then in reserves, then in concentration camps and finally they will be genocided. Screen cap this
>>538388235so how exactly is russia supposed to prevent ukraine from following them home and taking everything back by force?
>>538388110>Equal position with India and China>EqualDelusional. Russia is coming out of this weaker than India. Hilarious you brought China into this. Russia is going to be a chink puppet state and Xi is going to buy all of Russia's resources at a steep discount because nobody else wants to deal with poocians
>>538386962>25-30milNigger their current population is 22 million and it's declining
>>538386569Drones are just smart missiles. The best way to handle it is to industrially out-produce adversaries and improve the detection/interception systems. There's no magic tech to solve the problem, it just has to develop through trial and error with the weapon system itself. But the jews have basically hamstrung their own horse in that fight (industrial and innovation), believing it to be in their interest for any war, even a war on their behalf, for the US to fight pyrrhic costly wars because they see us as a rival (with industrial/innovation) that they want to weaken too, as much as they do Iran, and probably more so.The US isn't going back to maneuver warfare if maneuver warfare isn't going to be effective.
>>538388235>tldr to say “the kike will save Russia”Humiliation ritual continues from falseflaggers.
>>538388359some will come back after the war ends
>>538388223Very ironic coming from Finland. Shouldn't you know this from experience?
>>538388359>Mask tossed at the first insultProved right as soon as I posted.
>>538388296> Following them home What do you mean? Ukraine hasn't captured a city in almost four years. They're going nowhere.
>>538388409show us the political map of your subhuman parallel universe, you're not from same planet as we are retarded piece of shit kike
>>538388409>Using Finland as a Ruski winAh yes, because having a new border to patrol was such a W for ruski. Winming as hard as Trump in Iran.
>>538388448maybe you should read your own retarded subhuman kike trash message to know what we're talking about
>>538388392Russia is also doomed on the long run. Jews really did a number on them after 1917. >>538388394By the end of the year, almost every Ukrianian refugee will be eligible to EU citizenship. Every one of them has now learned the language of their host country, lives in peace and has a chance to earn a salary three times higher as the average salary in Ukraine. Nobody is coming back, nobody.
>>538385490Um... they actually did try that? Did forget the whole airfield bombardment and the VDV helicopter assaults that came later ? Also you can't really do that to the whole country if you can't suppress the enemy AD. Kiews minutes from Belarus it's like 150km from the border you can thunder run that. It just failed afterwards because Russia was unable to secure air dominance
Right now its in everyone's best interest not to get involved in wars. jews are basically mask off, they're going to proxy any war they can, they're going to sabotage conclusions of wars, and they're even going to do it to their allies.If they weren't the rat riding on the back of globalism and the US Mil industrial complex, you could think of them as 'just another country doing what countries do to secure more advantage', but they are riding on the back of globalism and the US Mil and your politicians might be (are likely to be) compromised and will make willfully self-destructive decisions for no other reason than they are self-destructive.
>>538386650>EUIt's a walking corpse, declining in every aspect. It will be NATO occupying the west part of Russia, not your retirement home for niggers and faggots.Death to EU. Kill all niggers and beat the shit out of everybody who pretends that being "European" replaces the real nationality.
>>538385326>GAYTO destroys more pipelines, seizes more unarmed ships, tries to arrest all the leaders of Russia>Russia declares official (real) war on Ukraine, and also war on anybody who helps Ukraine in any way>GAYTO continues to supply Ukraine with everything (except men)>Russia launches strategic strikes against all factories and infrastructure (like train stations) throughout all of western Europe, that are helping Ukraine>GAYTO doesn't do shit, and neither does the United StatesThe end.
>>538385326Russia might keep some areas but Ukraine will keep going till it's a defeat. They didn't want war so they let the krim be occupied same later with Donbabwe and luganda. Turns out if Russia thinks they can win they will keep going. So they have to learn the lessons it's costly to fight or you can lose or there will never be peace.NATO is not relevant because countries can't join for 10 years if they have active territory disputes. (Was already pre war impossible to join, only Russian propaganda claimed it was imminent) Russia needs at all cost capture more are or they will get fucked by Ukraine selling oil/gas to Europe.
>>538388110> Finland neutral? Their neutrality was always a farce, just like during ww2 they were pretending to not be part of the Axis> EU friends? Will be back the very day the war ends. Venezuela? Nothing burger that had no value whatsoever for Russia > African operations? They just did a counteroffensyiv in Mali and kicked asses of Western jihadists > Syria They retained every military base. Assad was a dead weight and a lost cause. They've cut a money sinkhole with no setbacks> Mediterranean access?This is funny, Africa Korps is still in Libya while your country is nowhere to be seen there> Equal position with India and China? Stronger than ever.
>>538388817> Trusting words written on a piece of paperBy know there would be American troops in Donbas, you are clueless.
Unconditional surrender of Ukraine, at this point nothing else is on the table and Putin said so himself.
>>538386785What company do you work for that you think you're a worthy target, Pratt?
>>538388828>eurorussian coping
>>538388916Not that guy but Pratt is on the opposite side of town from the airport, it might be a nuclear target but Russia wouldn't be hitting it in an operation like this. Its mostly just the airport that is fucked and wherever they are keeping the munitions.
>>538385326The entire point of the war was a) to damage the EU that is an economic rival of the US and b) to annoy Russia with a proxy war they had no intention of winning. After it is all over, the jewish people in the US who were mad at Ukraine for having Nazi groups will all be wiped out and can be replaced with Indians.They will soon replicate this with Japan and China. They will demand Japan militarizes and then force them into a proxy war with China.When you have nations that have nuclear weapons, you cannot have proper wars and so you create proxy wars where the proxy gets wiped out in the process and nobody cares about it happening.
>>538385326All the Ukrainian men are killed, the women all emigrate, and jews repopulate the country by filling it with niggers
>>538389102I don't want any traitors back into my life.
>>538386606>Fucking Vietnamese guerillas are pushing the ccps shit inWell considering they also did to two white countries, Including the "biggest and baddest one in the world" Vietnamese don't fuck around.
>>538385326Russia has already shifted goal posts a million times so in the end the goals will collapse into a singularity and they limp back to russia with nothing. From removing nazi narkoman regime and removing nato east of germany to keeping what they already got in 2014. Crimea might be lost because ukraine can strangle the logistics.
>>538385326Two options:1. Some sort of peacedeal, or at least ceasefire that becomes de-facto peacedeal. Details are not that important as the thing will be extremely unstable and neither side has really much incentives to obey letters of it anyway. 2. Russia collapses or has some sort of different inner conflict that makes ukraine less of a priority. Result will be ukraine taking back most of the territories, possibly excluding some pockets here and there.
>>538389200Why all russians are such niggers with all their ramblings about le ebil white people forcing them to behave like niggers? Straight up no agency or responsibility, these people are cattle.
>>538385410Why not Jerusalem and Tel Aviv?
>>538389102The airport has Patriot missiles and I believe there's constant NATO presence in Rzeszów/Jasionka which would inevitably lead to deaths of foreign nationals.
>>538385326Realistically? The same shit I predicted four years ago - we'll get an armistice where Russia is gonna end up getting everything east of the Dnipro river and the annexed territories will end up becoming a new buffer zone between Ukraine and the rest of Russia proper. Ukraine is never going to recover demographically from this war.
>>538389658>The airport has Patriot missilesThere was a battery there in 2022-2023 yeah but the US has recently made a big show of how they are leaving so I have no idea if they are still there.
100 million Indian importees split across both countries
All of the underage ukrainians who post here eventually get drafted and dieUkraine runs out of men and begins using europeans and indiansNAFOtroons, being 45yo trannies on reddit unfit for service, continue to spam the board with based ukraine memes until they 41% themselves.
>>538386212>Any mildly clever human sees through the grift instantly, is disgusted and won't touch their organization with a ten foot pole.Every boomer I have met tells me I should join the army whenever I am unemployed.>our economy does not work at all>you should kill yourself for less than what mcdonalds workers make
>>538389621Irrelevant. Nuking Kiew dares the UK and France as the rest of the EU to either intervene or delegitimate themselves on the international stage and sink into irrelevancy completely. They won't react, so they are taken off the board as playersNuking Tehran dares China and Pakistan into reacting. They won't. With Iran gone China is now 100% dependent on Russia and is effectively taken off the board as well.As cherry on top, the international socialist organization like UN, Imf, world bank.... Are going to kwetch and moarn, but are going to show they are effectively powerless, so also taken off the board.It remains Russia and the USA, who showed they are not afraid to nuke the enemy without anyone able to react. Clean stable planetary duopoly
>>538389916>Every boomer I have met tells me I should join the army whenever I am unemployed.What are the downsides?
>>538389787The battery never left. US military presence is gone but it was supposed to be a rotation with NATO allies rather than abandonment.
>>538389974>P-please join our grifting mercenary bandsAhahahahahahahahahaha Get fucked mercenary scum. You can only attract your own kind, incompetent, illoyal scum whose only motivation isca pay check. You are the death of the concept of the state
>>538389974Like the austrian said, kill yourself.
>>538385326Ukraine taken over by Russia or split up by multiple countries and Russia taking large parts Ukraine
