Why do conservatives hate the Euro model, so much? Even Israel gets free healthcare, why won't they let their good goys allow us to have it? Who doesn't want healthier cattle??
Tell us more about the jew Islamo leftshit
>>538396039>jew islamoPick a target.
Its funny when Ameriniggers spam on Euro VPNs because everyone figured out their cheap tricks and nobody takes their Judeo-Amerimutt subversion serious anymore
>>538395992>free houses>free medicine>free education>free palestinethey should be charging at least 5 dollars for all those things
>>538395992How exactly is the euro model turning out?
More context.
>>538395992>(((European-style socialism)))no thanks
>>538395992>we promise to give you "free" stuff!Fuck off.
>>538396674Turriblé
>>538396818europe didn't pay for military for 75 years of course they were able to develop other industries
>>538396932>implyingStop acting like NATO wasn't for our benefit. It was to stop Europe from becoming nuclear powers (threats), and force conflict with the Soviet Union to stay a proxy war in places like Poland and Germany. This illusion that we are some wholesome, altruistic protector of peace and freedom should've died in middle school civics. You're a fucking adult.We created NATO. We created the EU. We created the League of Nations. We created the UN. It's always been about control/soft power.Also, Europe hasnt needed the protection racket, since 1989. If anything, we became a liability to them with our war on terror in the last 20 years.They didn't need a target on their back, we painted it there.
>>538395992people who believe shit like picrel, for or against, are absolute retards
>>538396735Man I miss those guys.
>>538395992We living in an american ba'athist socialist revival, and it's because socialist thought becoming more appealing to solve the domestic issues such as housing and healthcare. Al-assad had the last laugh.
>>538397583>socialist thought becoming more appealingto faggots and other retards, but not enough to make a difference
>>538395992We are already bankrupt, as is europe. It's never going to happen, retard. There aren't enough "rich people" to tax to make up for it.
>>538395992So the new narrative goes something like this:>Yeah we could have nice things and a government that works for the people not corporations, if not for all these damn niggers and immigrants!Did I get that right?
>>538397645With the defense budget we can feed the entire united state population for 2,000 dollars each a year. For 77 Billion we could house the 771,480 people that are homeless. Even Trump has that sort of money, so the rich fucking hate us.
>>538397583The problem with US healthcare is the amount of people who don't pay their bills. You seriously think things will get better when you tell niggers there are no bills at all?
>>538398254>For 77 Billion we could house the 771,480 people that are homelessNo amount of money will solve these problems because the companies claiming that are just Jewish NGOs who take the money and run.And FYI homeless people don't want to be housed. They want drugs. Give them a home and they'll sell it to buy drugs.
>>538397468America didn't create those things to project their power over others. Those things were made by the Western elite/jewish class to rule over both the Americans and the Europeans. I don't possess any great treasures carried home from NATO, or the EU, or any of these other institutions. Do you? Does anyone? Even if you're right that the Americans created these institutions; they sowed the farm with plants that bear no fruit.
>>538398364>No amount of money will solve these problems because the companies claiming that are just Jewish NGOs who take the money and run.Maybe we don't need to necessarily solve them but just make them better. What we could do is tax the rich and subsidize the creation of single-family entry level homes. That sounds like a reasonable policy, right?
>>538398290>Hospital chargemaster prices for Tylenol often range from $15 to $200 per pill, despite the wholesale cost being less than $0.02. This extreme markup is not a pricing error but a strategic component of the chargemaster system, which serves as the starting point for billing negotiations with insurance companies. They should just chargemaster me a cyanide capsule.
>>538398254>With the defense budget we can feed a bunch of lazy niggers and spics, while leaving ourselves open to Chinese invasionfuck off nigger
>>538398534No, shut up you retard. Homeless people are homeless because they don't want to work or take care of themselves. The only solution would be to bring back slavery. Throw them all in work camps. House them, feed, them, clothe them, and if they refuse to work, let them starve.
>>538398534or you could go get a fucking job you lazy faggot
>>538396039Wtf are you on? Did you find old nazi meth or something?
>>538398623>Thinks his guns is useful against an a.i. swarm of drones.
>>538395992the uniparty is preparing for the pendulum to swing left
>>538398723>guns is useful
>>538395992
>>538398755you lost, tranny
>>538398787nigger you still have no defense
all great except free palestine
>>538398913kill yourself shitskin faggot
>>538395992The only thing that matters here is how you’re going to pay for it.>tax the rich How are you going to tax unrealized gains? You’ll completely destroy investment, which I’m sure is the aim.
>>538399028you think governments get their money from taxing people? Are you twelve? Money collected in taxes is deleted by a keystroke or literally goes into a shredder if it's physical
>>538398644Okay. But if the goal isn't to "house all the homeless" but instead to simply make housing more readily available for everyone -- to make homeownership realistic again for average people... it's not a bad policy, right? What if instead of doing all the big, dramatic things, we instead focused on realistic ways to improve the lives of Americans? Instead of EVERYONE GETS A HOME: let's subsidize the creation of starter homes. Instead of NO ONE WILL EVER DIE OF ILLNESS AGAIN: let's just make sure everyone has free health insurance and go from there. Simple things. Achievable things.
>>538399011The a.i. swarm would take you out first because you would set off the proximity radar systems and they would seek you out on their smart analog video transmitters. You would just be a red box to a robot's eye.You're ar-15 should have been bought back by biden had he foreseen this change in theater, robotic killing toys.Now the chinese have millions, enough for a kill drone for every American citizen. only thing that could stop them are anti-drone kill vehicles (ADKVs)We could save money adopting a similar system and using drones primarily for combat. That and housing the homeless and feeding every american for free.
Only evil Nazis want shit like that
>>538399028>How are you going to tax unrealized gains? You’ll completely destroy investment, which I’m sure is the aim.You don't need to. Taxing unrealized gains is a red herring. The real lever is closing buy-borrow-die. The rich generally borrow against their assets and only pay taxes on it when they die and it's governed by estate law. Estate law is capped at $15m in liabilities IIRC, so they essentially get money for free and stiff the government in the end anyway. The borrow needs to be a taxable event. No way around it.
>>538398400The fruits were essentially markets to export American enterainment, services, goods, and, ultimately, culture (you dont generally fight people who like the same music as you). Where do you think the whole concept of killing communism with coke and McDonald's came from? Levi jeans and rock&roll? Why does the world use Windows, and speak English as a second language?Did we all see direct cash payments from this? Probably not. Was it the goal of our leadership and "policymakers?" Undoubtedly.
>>538399453Taxing people on property is essential. It belongs to the people, and so land owners better pay tribute with the exploits of their land or else the government can employ government workers to do it cheaper. Prison labor even.
>>538395992then why did Biden not accomplish any of it during either term?
>>538399896Democratsic Party =/ Democratic-Socialists.I hope this helps.
>>538396039Your constant spam doesn't have the effect you think it does
>>538395992The Free Palestine shit getting shoehorned in always makes me laugh. It lets you know who funds fox news
I want billionaires and foreign lobbyists to abuse me and call me cattle. I want to become sick and then lose my job as I can't afford health care then for the (((bank))) to take my family home.
>>538397468>Wewho's this we shitwe arent globohomo bankers with a counterfeiting machine here
NOTHING is free...Keep being idiots and you will be fucked with no way out....Why do you think people flee socialist countries in droves if it's so wonderful?
I would be for all these things but lets be honest...they will all be determined and prioritized based on equity and inclusion.
>>538395992Yeah, no thanks. Brown people deserve nothing for free.
>>538398534>What we could do is tax the rich>and the middle class, to death>and then erect barriers to ever getting out of the lower class>wouldnt that be great, goy?
>>538395992Ignoring the Free Palestine bullshit claim, oh noo a 32 hour work week. Terrifying.
>>538398755>I hate the corporations historically but now that I've been told to obey them, I'm right on it!>we dream about things that are illegal in the USA and will never happen>the uniparty is preparing for the pendulum to swing left>I'm a true woman>co2 is responsible for climate changethese things are all fake and gay, you dumb tranny
>>538395992money doesn't grow on trees
>>538398598If you're going to the ER for tylenol you deserve to pay 2000 dollars for it. 200 is a mercy
>>538401114what does opposing immigration have to do with trannies?
>>538395992Free stuff which some of will go to white people ARGGGG! and acting like Palestinians are not just goy cattle that jews should be allowed to kill wherever and however they like without asking permission from stupid goys! That's the most antisemitic thing I've ever seen in my life!.DONT YOU FUCKING GOYS UNDERSTAND, JEWS CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WHENEVER THEY WANT AND THEY DONT HAVE TO ASK SOME STUPID FUCKING NON JEW IF ITS OK..... GENOCIDE IS OK FOR JEWS TO DO YOU STUPID FUCKING GOY!!!!!!!!
>>538401423This isn't going to benefit white people
>>538401150indeed, this is why we tax the ever-living shit out of the rich. they can afford it.
>>538401423I don't agree with college education for all when we currently have a problem with credential inflation and there are alternate credential and learning programs now.Also it's been a problem that public colleges have been political indoctrination centers and students have been underperforming.
>>538395992yuropa is a cautionary tale lolimagine allowing yourself to get bulied by a bunch of parliamentary brats who wouldn't be able to exist without their taxpayer-funded salaries.
>>538395992This would not e if America was 100% white. Spics and other assorted thirdies don't deserve to have it good here.
>>538400918Well, those bankers have effectively ruled our country since at least Wilson, so for all intensive porpoises they are American as apple pie. It's a doggy dog world, buddy.
>>538395992this is all part of the plan to push woke 2.0anyone who says "affordability" is a communist traitor and should be deportedif you can't "afford" to live here, we don't need your useless leftist ass anyway
>>538402203the anti israel part is fine. christian jew simping is an immediately noticeable disaster.
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>>538402203We can only hope they deport us to NK or the middle east so we can become Nazi jihadis and fight with the Muslims against jews.....a few of us white guys over there dong the strategic thinking for the Arabs and getting them ready for war with Israel, it will be amazing and the worst thing the jews ever did to themselves.Also we won't be traitors like if you went to fight for a foreign people/nation because we wouldn't be US citizens anymore lol.
>>538399709>The fruits were essentially markets to export American enterainment, services, goods, and, ultimately, cultureI haven't profited from exporting goods and services to Europe. Have you?
>>538397504You could have just said "americans".
>>538395992They are just setting up the next mass-psyop for when the AI bubble pops. This is gonna be another Obama situation. They gonna run on social economics and then rugpull everyone (again) and give hundred gorillion dollars to wallstreet and push for gay and retarded shit so in 8 years republicans can win again and the cycle repeats.
>>538402114I hate to be the title of bad bearings, but the jewish banking cartels are not american, nor are they white
>>538395992Their healthcare isn't free, their income is taxed at levels that exceed 50% to pay for it in some countries. No thanks.
>>538395992>freeThis is why niggers women and children were never meant to vote
Because you can't magically give people these things and socialism is a religious cult.If you want these things you need a free market.
>>538397583>and it's because socialist thought becoming more appealing to solve the domestic issues such as housing and healthcare.but its going to make those things much worse lmfao
>>538398254>this is what communists actually fucking believe
>>538400484democratic socialists are just authoritarian retards that deserve to dieyou people hate the working class and want them to sufferI hope you live in NYC so you will starve to death
>>538402203you leftist shills are so blatantly obviousnobody is falling for your psyopI'm not lowering my living standards just to give you freaks more power
>>538395992The Euro model only works in a majority ethnostate like Denmark.You import a billion migrants and mutt out your country and that model cannot be sustained as thirdies and mutts have no loyalty to each other and just rob the system blind.Look at us here, socialism fell apart because too many jeets, chinks and somalis were brought in who just want to steal from the nation they don't care about community or anything like an ethnostate would
>>538402203So, because Trump is corrupt you want us all to double-down on embracing all for one man and his friends?https://archive.ph/x9KxMAfter Watergate and the Teapot Scandal, do you think we were too harsh on Republicans?
>>538398623>he thinks we aren't already doing that
>>538395992For socialism to have any chance of working it requires enthnonationalism. Get rid of the jews and their brown invaders and then we can talk.
>>538403701ok so everyone else will have lower standards of living just so you can have a better life?
>>538401006>and the middle class, to death>and then erect barriers to ever getting out of the lower classYou're welcome to your own opinions, of course, but that shit sounds pretty fucking lame to me.
>>538395992Is this theead going to help me accept Chinese style personal surveillance and life on a subscription plan? I don't know why you'd call that progress when The Party (in this case the neofeudalist techbros and their shitjeet fecaloid pets) is still somehow more equal than the rest of us. Some things never change.
>>538405727socialism is a war on the working class, it makes us poorer, it's done this every timethere is no such thing as free shit
>>538395992In the spirit of compromise, I will agree to this socialist faggotry except the green new deal on the condition that first all non-whites are removed from the country and all borders are secured by impenetrable walls with automated lethal weapons. Deal?
>>538395992In the euro model the middle and lower class pay fucktons more taxes.
>>538395992>when you pay for something ahead of time but then whenever you use it you call it "free"Socialists are stupid.
>>538396039kike shill
>>538406495we can just stick with capitalism which is making everyone poor except the wealthy i guess. you read too much capitalist propaganda btw
>>538395992It would work if we didnt have a billion fucking BROWN NIGGERS in our countryBut until they get removed we cant have any form of socialism or else everything will be expensive and shitty.
>>538407748>dude we totally have capitalism right now>central banking and 897234589237543 trillion dollars in government debt is "capitalism">printing trillions to inflate a stock market bubble to make boomers and billionaires richer is "capitalism"
>>538395992I know nothing about jews. What can you guys tell me about them?
>>538407991oh no it is most definitely Capitalism
>>538408115>capitalism is when the government implements socialismlmao you image makes literally zero senseAll of these problems started happening when we started to grow the size of government.It was the free market period that was the least corrupt and most prosperous for the workers
>>538397468Good post but retards will ignore it because it's inconvenient
>>538395992Coincidentally the palestinian and the LGB flag are the same design pattern but with a different color scheme
>>538407010>that first all non-whites are removed from the country and all borders are secured by impenetrable walls with automated lethal weapons. Deal?see>>538398755
>>538395992Just move to Europe chimp. Tan out and learn some Arabic.
>>538395992>freestop spamming this shit you loser.
So back in the day we used to argue with communists online, who would often say that some nominally communist system wasn't actually communist and therefore wasn't evidence against the system. The nuance that seems to be lost is that, usually, the communists did have a solid argument as to why. You'd point to Russia and they'd say>Well, did the people have real control of the means of production?and if you granted no, they'd say it's not real communism. However, our counter to that wasn't that the working class controlling the means of production isn't important to communist theory; it clearly is; but that there's no point to discussing purely theoretical systems that never appear in reality. In real life when someone does a heckin' communism it looks like Russia or China or North Korea, so that's what we judge communism on, not unimplemented theory.But now we are at the height of absurdity, because all those seeking to defend capitalism against attackers do the EXACT same thing, down to thinking that>Well we have central banking with money printing that's not real capitalismor similar statements would constitute an argument just because the textbooks make that seem plausible. There's no point discussing purely theoretical systems that never appear in reality. If there is such a thing as capitalism at all, what America practices is the form it takes in real life.
>>538396686>yougovso all of them are false. ugly
>>538396818>globohomo rankingsso all false. ugly
>>538408964>However, our counter to that wasn't that the working class controlling the means of production isn't important to communist theory;I'm pretty sure an implementation of this is employee stock ownership programs (if company offered that) or buying stocks on the public stock market.Even though I'm degreeless, I still have a job and do the latter. The real thing preventing lefty types from doing what I'm doing is that they're tens of thousands of dollars in debt because of a student loan and the interest they're paying exceeds the dividends paid by owning equity nor can they tolerate the risk as well while in debt.
>>538405527>CNBC>you don't know how cryptos work>you are unable to explain where the corruption isyou fall for the propaganda of globohomo billionaires who want to destroy you and are responsible for almost every shit in your life, your every "wiin" is cum guizzling.you should vote not for trump, but for the most extreme right-wing thing that there is, and if there is not, prepare for civil conflict.
>>538396039>t marxistlol jk
It's really simple retards, how many appreciating assets do you own? Is the answer none? You're too retarded to be having any kind of opinion on how states should manage much of anything.Keep your blathering to how much you love jew and or tranny cock. That's the price of admission, get to figuring it out coz aint no one gonna do it for you.
>>538408198>It was the free market period that was the least corrupt and most prosperous for the workersWhen was this free market period, exactly? Why was it the least corrupt and most prosperous?How do you propose we account for the ways in which both technology and economics have advanced since this free market period?Go on, then. Be the first lolbert in the history of the word to have a real platform.
>>538402572the boomers did
>>538396674it's not free healthcareI pay 1 euro at the family doctor, can see almost immediatelyI pay 3 euros for a hospital specialistin some europoor countries the system works well, no long waiting like in UK or Canada>>538407581it's not that much more and minimum wage is high here - about $30k US, take home about €1700 mo. - enough you can often rent a small aptif you are a couple you live comfy on minimum wage, you have health care, your apartment, and going-out café moneyyou don't get rich but you aren't in needameriburgers you really need to fix that health care shite, bernie is right on that one
>>538408964>but that there's no point to discussing purely theoretical systems that never appear in realityNo shit. The problem is obviously in vanguardism. Lenin, Mao, and Stalin all stood at the helm of a captured state and indefinitely deferred the point at which they would turn the means of production over to the workers. Calling that communism because it "existed in reality" is just another permutation of the literal argument you said earlier. If you capture the state and keep it, it doesn't matter what wallpaper you put up or what becomes your preferred iconography. If you don't hand over the means of production to the people, you are authoritarian. If you want to discuss the failure of the USSR to become genuinely communist, that's an entirely different conversation. Tying these things together is the failure of logic. It's why these conversations always fail to thrive beyond even the first step -- no one is ever willing to actually discuss communism.
>>538413766Last panel should say "WE'RE 56% WHITE DUMBASS"
>>538395992>Euro modelimplying>democratic socialismnice try, there's no such thing, the term is a paradoxsocialism is the antithesis of democracy and it's physically impossible for the two to co-exist, see every socialist and communist failure in human history from Nazi Germany to the Soviet Union and all its captive states, Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, China etc.think about it, how in the fuck would a totalitarian ideology like communism ("socialism") allow free and fair elections which would have opposition parties that would argue against socialism?precisely, socialism is such a failure it can only be imposed by force against people's wills and the will of the peopleusing the term democratic socialism/socialist but unironically is a surefire indicator of someone who has sub 80 IQ, at best
>>538412990>When was this free market period, exactly?Late 1800s USA.No central bank, deflationary economy, no income tax, very low government spending.>Be the first lolbert in the history of the word to have a real platform.It's not my fault you can't fucking read lmao>platformAbolish the federal reserve. Abolish fractional reserve banking(its fraud). Abolish intellectual property laws. Cut 95% of government spending. Cut some burdensome interventions, add other ones(gotta do it intelligently though, I mean like consumer protection laws etc)Allow the economy to crash and for billionaires to lose their money and for home prices to crash. Allow the economy to restructure on solid ground.That's the only way to fix america's economy
>>538413766the only thing that can fix american healthcare is free market capitalismsee: >>538403506
>>538396686>the democratic socialists of America generally agree with many common democrat causesWhat is the point of this image? Isn't that obvious?
>>538398696> Wtf are you on? Did you find old nazi meth or something?What a gay shitskin post
>>538407705Niggerlover. Most of the world is shitskin, plenty of shitskin countries for you to go live in without destroying the west
>>538414922And when archeologists dig up your bones 500 years from now theyll say “THIS WAS A MALE HUMAN”
>>538395992>oy vey, you must take the free healthcare or go to prison>in order to get the free healthcare, you must pay 50% taxes>and follow the healthcare protocol or go to prison>>covid 2021: I agree
>>538418168Then why do white trash birdshit skins always come to brown lands? india, venezuela, iran, china. You birdshit skins can't help yourselves
>>538398003Chuds would starve a thousand white children if they could also starve a single nonwhite
>>538416097>Late 1800s USA.Ah, yes, the era of child sweatshops, scabs, Pinkertons, company towns, unmitigated monopolies, and on and on and on. There is no such thing as a serious lolbert kek
Why has there been 5 threads in two days on this topic? None of what they promise other than being slightly mean to israel is what you will get from DSA. You will get food deserts by implementing the policies they want to push through.
>>538407748400,000 europeans have died from heat related deaths over the last 4 years. Their quality of life is piss poor. They cant afford a/c units. That is something that Americans solved over 100 years ago.
>>538395992Tell me how this is a bad thing minus the Palestine shit?I prefer Palestinians to the Israelis who destroyed my country, the entertainment industry, the morality of women and I'm just going to stop here because I can bitch endlessly about Jews and Israel
>>538395992Aren't there like 50 million illegals in the US? I imagine that American taxpayers don't want to pay for all their gibs.
>>538418168why would I leave my country nigger?
>>538395992>conservatives >made up shit Stop posting this made up crap.
>>538395992None of this is possible without sky-high taxes on everyone. The rich will effectively become the ruling class.
>>538395992>Who doesn't want healthier cattle??People who feel better about their living standards by being constantly reminded that a lot of people have it much worse.
