China is a better partner for world peace and prosperity than forever war uncle Sam...
China couldn't fight a war if it wanted to. They are getting btfod for the past 60 yeara by vietnamese guerillas
>>538401998We can defeat China in two weeks if wee really wanted to.
>>538401998Peace is fake and gay.
>>538401998Where is the Ukrainian flag?
>>538401998Does China know how to fight still?
>>538402112China can conquer Taiwan in a week and invade western USA in a few month and force Trump into a fair surrender dealThey're just holding their fists for peace, like Putin in Ukraine...
>>538402112>narcissism
Freedom isn't free...it must be protected or it will be lost...
>>538402297It really can't. Tell me a war that china won over the past 500 years. You can't. They got fucked by barbarian horse fuckers, random pirates, Russian drunks, gooks, japs, viets, kambodians.... China lost every fight it ever got involved in
>>538402297They don’t have enough landing craft or tonnage for that. Plus, wym Putin is holding back? You don’t hold back in war ever. That’s how people die for dumb reasons. Poland is going to be running Moscow.
>>538402465Russia still doesn't treat Ukraine like a war, else kiew would simply not exist anymore, neither lemberg. They still treat it like a limited military operation
The amount of low quality CHINA GOOD AMERICA BAD threads over the past few days has been insufferable. It hasn't been this bad in a long time. I wonder what happened.
>>538401998And we paid for it with nigger infestation and Jew Banker Commies ..who can seriously not see Uncle SAM is Sammael? The Venom
>>538402552Why did they lose 1 million men in a casual operation, get their capital city bombed, lose a flagship in their Baltic fleet, have lost the one major city that had surrendered to them, and are now casually mobilizing 500,000 men?What part of losing generals in combat is casual? They should have started “wiping them out” awhile ago were they able. Who runs a casual military operation longer than WWII? It’s clearly cope from brass to call it that.
>>538402961Russian loses are not even at 200k, the debauchery is worthless without any capabilities to invade the territory.
>>538403178Russian casualties are about 400,000 dead and another 800,000 wounded or missing. You're not fooling anyone vatnigger.
>>538403283What is it with you nato retards unironically eating your own propaganda and auto-datapoisoning yourself? The most important part of propaganda is to never fall for your own yourself. But hey keep on feeding your own machinery false feedback
>>538402112you lost to rice farmers and sheepherders, settle down mutt.
>>538403178They lost 40,000 last month.Even if they’ve only lost 200,000 as you claim, that’s still worse than Soviet Afghanistan, or American Vietnam.Thats terrible. Thats a loss.That said China cannot possibly fare better. They have to do a D-Day style landing on an enemy completely prepared for it, with allied support and minimal distraction. Can’t even do D-day by distracting to a different coastline. It’s a total wash. Even with experience and supply that landing zone is impossible.
>>538403409>being a vatnigger and forced to work in the West because your country is poor and retarded
Apparently 18 years, possibly less!
>>538403409Russia is literally using human wave tactics to swarm machine guns. We don’t even need to listen to propaganda, it’s more like counting the pictures of dead bodies, sunken ships, burned out tanks. Verifiably over 10,000 armored vehicles liter Ukraine like washed up garbage. With pre-war numbers ranging in 13,000 total.You can’t take a 70-85% loss and say you’re holding back. There’s nothing left to hold back.
>>538403775You literally ate the most retarded of your own propaganda Keep being a retard
>>538403899Even if I don’t use numbers it’s terrible.>lost a flagship Moscova to a country without a Navy>NATO expansion under this war>Couldnt take Kiev>Couldnt hold Kherson>Inability to subdue Ukrainian Leaders>Moscow attacked by drones>Russia repeatedly calling for the west to end support (because it can’t win)There’s nothing left way out for Russia now and you should just accept being of a different nationality and not mentioning your past.If we bring up numbers the economy cannot function if the war ends.
>>538404331Keep repeating your propaganda scripts and believe them. My point was, that Russia still doesn't treat the conflict likeva war, but like an extended military operation, else Kiew would be ash and Lemberg not existing anymore
>>538404431And I’m saying if Russia was actually capable of leveling Kiev, they should have done so two years ago. If they can today, they should do so now.Death by nuclear Annihilation is the only way to maintain face in light of this crippling death blow. Every day they do not is proof that Russia is weak and pathetic, not worthy of serious consideration in global affairs.
>>538403775>>538403409>nato vs russiayou idiots will never figure it out. or are you bots
>>538404731Its funny, Nato treats it more like a war than Russia without being officially involved. You do understand, that Russia has a clear cut goal, the control of a limited set of territory, which it does for the most part, with keeping that territory as intact as possible. Its goals do not involve to flattening kiew, Lemberg or doing what the US has done for the past 50 years when it conducted wars 1000 miles away - flatten everything and be done.
>>538404957Tell us more about the jew moohamhead bin marx
>>538405020Well maybe they have to change their objectives then? They still getting hit, USA still sells weapons to Ukraine, NATO still expanding, Jewlensky still alive and so on. We are in the 5th year almost and even though Russia won't collapse in 2 weeks for how long do you think they can go on? Forever? I don't think so.
Main topic, China has not proven to be an arbiter of peace through anything other than economic power.>>538405020Yeah the Russian way of sending a million bodies to bleed to death all over the place is so much better.Oh you mean the revised goals? Just take a limited amount of territory to connect Crimea and prevent ecological disaster? The goal that got revised from the revision where you were going to take half of Ukraine and the rest of the Kherson region, after you failed to take Kiev and commit to the initial goal of regime change and/or taking all of Ukraine?It’s insane how losers shift goalposts so much. You should attack NATO next.
>>538405240Even if they do go on forever it seems incredibly wasteful to commit to so little at the expense of so much. They started throwing old nuclear capable missiles at them.
>>538405240For as long as it takes, and should Russia somehow become existentially threatened (no debauchery with drones without a force able to invade the territory is not) it is going to trigger the nuclear doctrine, and I have a feeling it won't be kiew that gets the iskander, but Belgium
>>538401998I like how Americans are proving your point. Every single comment is about them fighting and defeating things. They have no concept of peace and tranquility, they only know violence. Americans are the niggers of the western world.
>>538405325The goals haven't changed for 4 years. You really ate your own propaganda. Never get high on your own supply
>>538405455peace can't ever happen and anyone who won't fight for peace obviously doesn't deserve it. cowards just think they can be pathetic enough people will give them what they want and that only works when whites are 100% in charge and that ended in 1913 in the west
>>538401998Except everything they build falls apart and they can't drive a motor vehicle to save their lives.Fuck the slopes to hell.
>>538405552No, the outset of the war was denazification and an end to the Zelensky regime for a more favorable government in Ukraine. You don’t have mystery secret objectives that haven’t been revealed yet until later. You’ve got public statements and textbooks claiming Ukraine isn’t a real nation and its factories and oil belong to Russia.You guys are just really bad at this.
>>538405423I feel like the retards in charge and war obsessed cunts in both Europe and USA think that Russia never will use those kind of weapons because, why didn't they until now? Second would be the fact that Russia really might be a paper tiger, at least from outside this is how it is interpreted. >>538405414I agree. I think that Russia will have a very hard time ahead economically, controlling all the land even if they manage to punish NATO.
>>538405803It’s more like we’re reaching levels of Russian industry will take decades getting back what they lost, the men who died cannot go back to work, impacting the economy, the brain drain, the sanctions.The worst is the trade with India. Russia is mainly a mainly petrol based economy that is selling its oil to India for cheaper than it’s worth, and then India is turning around and selling it back to them at market value for a double loss.
>>538405803Don't fall for the nato propaganda. For Europe and some extend the USA, without being directly involved its existential. The subsidized deficit financed military production for Ukraine is one of the few things in Europe that fakes gdp growth in the 0.x% and allows them to still sell their bonds. should the conflict end, be it by Russia starting to treat it like a war, using nukes on whoever or even Ukraine somehow winning, Europe goes into technical depression and its ponziconomy collapses, its welfare state implodes and it stops being a union of failed states under the hood but becomes visible on paper
>>538406110This is insane cope. No that’s not happening. No that’s not how that works. In the USA we’ve just been giving away old equipment we’ve had in storage. It’s not at danger to the economy or combat capability.>ponziconomy in the euWhat does this even mean? What are you saying?
>>538406458Its the case in Europe. The only thing that had German, France and UK GDP grow over the past 4 years has been retarded uncovered credit expansion for military production
>>538406751You mean their massive investments into military spending and manufacturing infrastructure?You know why the U.S. is pulling out of Europe right? Like that part isn’t lost on you is it? Europe is Rearming and rebuilding its manufacturing to the point the U.S. doesn’t feel it needs to be there anymore.
>>538407211Its not an investment. It doesn't produce a profit, let alone a positive cashflow. Its purely deficit financed while every other aspect of the European economies, the formerly productive cashflow positive position are deflating non-stop
>>538407313Like seriously.>Deficit financed subsidies to stomp out production capacity >Deficit financed loans to Ukraine >To then buy the production That's a circular ponzi that entirely depends on the conflict continuing
>>538406110EU won't fall because of this war, Russia isn't that strong (maybe if they will use nukes) to damage EU to that point.Going back again to my above point, is the fact that EU is rearming, they spend money in order to create ADs and shit like that, you can say what you want but apparently EU treats this war more seriously than Putin is at this point.Of course EU lost cheap gas and they are hurt because of it, but that's besides the point since next year we will be here to talk again while Putin draws another red line, which I think he doesn't even give a shit anymore since maybe in 10 years he will be dead and the next Russian president will have to deal with the economic black hole this war created because he wanted to "bleed" the West and the Europeans.
>>538407530Yes, EU has to treat it more seriously than Russia, because once the conflict is over the EU is literally the Emperor without clothes. The conflict is the flywheel for the ponzi that keeps EU gdp from going into technical depression levels
>>538407632And it becomes painfully obvious comparing Germany, france, italy... The EU nato countries with f.ex Austria. Austria is in a technical recession for the better part of 3 years, where Germany and France keep themselves out of that by a whores hair ponziing a military industry
