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Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov just warned Poland to "think about its security" while producing drones for Ukraine. He referenced Russias Defense Ministry publishing addresses of Polish drone assemblies supplying Ukraine, noting these facilities make drones attacking Russian forces. Peskov called it a fact happening mostly on the Polish territory, framing it as a provocative escalation that might eventually drag Poland into the war.

https://tass.com/politics/2155899

Poland has become a key hub for Chinese drone components amid the Ukraine war. Parts are rerouted via Poland - mostly flowing to Ukraine and used by Polish forces. Poland plans to spend PLN 15 billion ($4bln) on drones/counter-drone systems built mostly from Chinese components.

https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7784/artykul/3639607,poland-becomes-key-hub-for-chinese-drone-parts-amid-ukraine-war
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>>538409617
Based Russia. It's always been pure kikery that "neutral" countries supplying weapons to combatants aren't considered combatants themselves.
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>>538410369
Russia has no problem with Bolanda shopping in China and using Chinese technology for defense purposes. Russia only objects to supplying those drones and components to Ukraine. If Poland were to invite Russian inspectors to all those factories that the Russians accuse of assembling drones for Ukraine, that would be a goodwill gesture. Soon, Poland may be faced with an ultimatum: either you close the border to supplies for the Ukrainian military, or you will be taking Gerans, Kalibrs, Kh-101s, FABs, KABs, Zircons, Iskanders etc right in the face, just like Ukraine. And then i hope Bolanda makes the wise choice. xD
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>>538410893
>And then i hope Bolanda makes the wise choice. xD
Poland has a history of being based. If Poland is supplying weapons to Ukraine, I hope Poles track down whoever is doing it and throw them head first down a well.
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>>538409617
>built mostly from Chinese components.
嘿嘿
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>>538411404
Bolanda tried to build only from domestic/Western ones, but pic-related drones that Russians shoot down with $1k FPV-interceptors cost $460k per unit and Bolanda was able to produce like 20 a year xD

https://tvn24.pl/tvn24-news-in-english/poland-boosts-drone-purchases-to-start-unmanned-aircraft-inspectorate-in-january-st8181678

https://youtu.be/5SZPo_l5HvE

If you want to produce thousands cheap drones (or millions), you need Chinese parts.
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>>538409617
I DEMAND A FINAL SOLUTION TO THE POLISH QUESTION
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>>538411592
all you need now is for Ursula to declare sanctions on chinese electronics
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>>538412174
Since when Bolanda began to produce its drone from Chinese and 3D printed parts, such as FlyEye or Warmate, they cost like x100 less and Bolanda finally can make them in thousands instead of dozens xD

You cant build huge cheap drone mass without Chinese parts. It is impossible. Nobody can.
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>>538410893
Oreshniks you forgot. Those are literally designed for europeans. I am sure they will be used at some point. Tactical nuke on EU is the best way to stop Ukrainian conflict.
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>>538409617
It is funny they don’t threaten Germany despite all their military indiatry. Probably their weapons are so shit they don’t make much difference. British storm shadow production needs oreshnik, they were many times the weapon of terrorism, and hobols can’t even target them themselves.
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If I was Russia I would sacrifice myself and nuke Europe completely, then accept the retaliation from the USA and be done with it
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>>538413169
>retaliation from the USA

It would never come, tho xD
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>>538409617
Send more weapons to Ukraine in response
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>>538413169
It will come to that. The EU strategy is to wage attrition war against russia, sacrificing the butthurt belt. Russia can’t take it against 450 million people and much larger industry in the world. It is the same as Ukraine fighting against Russia, like futile. Europe will be nuked at some point, i doubt there is any attrition war against EU in russian military doctrine. They also told it many times. I am really curious why europeans never take seriously anything russia says.
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>>538413506
Europoors dont have industries tho, they offshored everything to China. Besides most of them dont really have a will for a full scale war with Russia. They will eventually accept Russia taking like 54% of Ukrainian territory, and leaving the landlocked wasteland with pensioners and PTSD cripples in the west.
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>>538413754
Yes, seems like they decided many years ago that the river will be the natural boarder. They just want to make it more expensive for Russia.
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>>538409617
he is right, according to pro iran fags by supporting the enemy they are justified in bombing the fuck out of you.
I didnt make the new rules of engagement, I just hold you to them, unless you want to admit you are a hypocrite?
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>>538412555
Poland can mass-produce domestically airframes, fuselages, wings (composites, 3D printing, injection molding), basic structural elements, propellers (with local tooling), assembly, integration, software/firmware, warheads, and final testing.

But both UPAdline and Bolanda will likely always import from China high-efficiency brushless motors and ESCs (mature, ultra-cheap supply chain), Li-ion/LiPo batteries and cells, FPV cameras, video transmitters (VTX), antennas, flight controllers, IMUs, GPS modules (high-volume specialized chips), raw materials for advanced composites in some cases, magnets, etc etc etc.

China dominates these due to unmatched manufacturing scale, vertical integration, and low cost. No Western country matches the price/volume. Most "Western" or Ukrainian components are rebranded Chinese parts or use Chinese-made chips/motors (even US/EU brands often produced in China). Buying unbranded direct from Chinese factories skips the markup - often 4x cheaper while identical in performance. This is why Poland became the rerouting hub: economics beat politics for mass cheap drone swarms. Full decoupling raises costs sharply and slows output. Hybrid (Polish design + Chinese core parts) is the practical path.
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>>538414636
all the more reason russia should nuke you.
you were spitroasted like a whore during ww2 and have been a contentious woman of europe since.
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>>538410369
The wrong side won ww2 and despite reaching the same conclusion as the Axis, you still condemn their memory
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>>538410893
Lets have world war 3. Let's see what you're made of.
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>>538410369
How far down the supply chain do you want to take that logic?



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