>Russia isn't going to collapse through an economic crisis. >Ukraine is not going to liberate Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk or Zaporizhzhia. >They will never be allowed to become a NATO member. What's the point in continuing this? What's the point in sacrificing more lives in a mostly stagnant conflict with little chance of significant breakthroughs?
The EU and UK won't let them. They gonna deport Ukrainian fugees before accepting an end to the conflict Its the only thing that keeps their economy alive>Loan to Ukraine >Ukraine buys weapon systems with loan >GDP goes line up
They are like Russians retard.
>>538426175Because it isn't up to them? Their government is being held hostage by kikes who take orders from the ZOG.
>>538426351Tell us more about the jew shitskin bin leftshit
>p-p-p-please surrenderNo.The bombing of refineries will continue.
>>538426175They their goal isn't to liberate occupied territories, although that would be nice. Their goal is to force a ceasefire with Russia. Right now its Putin who doesn't want a ceasefire and wants to keep going. For Russia, if they do a ceasefire right now, they would be admitting defeat.
>>538426400Shalom!
>>538426175Cause they don't want to be slaves of Russia?And Russia has already historically collapsed twice because of an economic crisis caused by war, So they have a good bet on it working a third time.
>>538426175This conflict started when Russia prevented Israel from overthrowing Assad in the early stages of the Syrian Civil war, global Jewry retaliated against Russia by overthrowing the pro-Russian government in Kiev and starting a campaign of ethnic cleansing against Russians in order to draw Russia into a war and away from the middle east. This mostly worked out for Jews, Russia was not able to prop up the Syrian government, but Russia was able to fortify Iran and make it into a regional hegemon. Now the Jews can't have a ceasefire in Ukraine because this would free up massive missile and air defense resources for transfer to Iran. Ukrainians are of course subhuman goycattle and they don't get a say in any of this, if there were any Ukrainians near the centers of political power in Kiev they would have demanded a ceasefire years ago because this war has basically made Ukraine demographically nonviable as a state.
>>538426175Sacrificing the goyim lives IS the point. Jews can make two white countries fight in a meat grinder just openly in front of you.
>>538426408You are a good little ponzi flywheel
>>538426457They could have had more than a ceasefire years ago.
>>538426408Dude you have no future if your retarded leaders keep touching the stove and continue going down this path
>>538426175Why didn't Britain give up when German planes were flying over London?
>>538426523The bombing of refineries will continue.
>>538426175Not everyone has a cuck mentality like you
>>538426523You are talking to a propagandist, he gets a cushy income from the loans by the EU and UK for shitposting. He has an interest to keep the conflict going or he might have to get a real job
>>538426523Don't assume for a second that you are talking to a Slav, Ukrainian Slavs are retarded and don't speak English. Every pro-Ukraine shill on the internet is literally a unit 8200 kike
>>538426523It's just a nafotroon on VPN. All men who could be shitposting on 4chan either long since left the country or are getting droned.
>>538426408Based
>>538426543It's embarrassing you think these situations are comparable. >>538426581Easy to say this behind a keyboard
>>538426523If Ukraine surrenders they have no future either, at least this way they'll have no future while killing the people destroying their future.If your choices are1. Die without a fight2. Die while making the one responsible for your death suffer.Only a pussy would pick option 1.
>>538426175cause theyre super heros
>>538426652>It's embarrassing you think these situations are comparable. How are they not?
>>538426523lets hear those terms
>>538426652>It's embarrassing you think these situations are comparable.kek, it actually is comparable. Both Britain and Ukraine are kike-ruled slave states fighting wars for the benefit of Jews that are against the interests of their actual populations
>>538426175>why don't they surrender and be shot in the back of the head in some alleyway instead of fighting for their homeland?picrel is what happens to civilians after russian troops occupy a town.Ukraine DID take back Kherson in November 2022 after it was occupied by russia for 8 months, or haven't you heard? As the matter of fact, russia has not conquered and held ANY regional capitals since 2022.
>>538426520such as?
>>538426686>Britain's strategic position is fundamentally different than Ukraine>Britain still possessed a global empire with enormous economic and manpower during WW2>Germany's objectives during WW2 differ from Russia's which is singularly focused on Ukraine>Ukraine's long-term position depends on continuing Western support
>>538426254>The EU and UK won't let them.>They gonna deport Ukrainian fugees before accepting an end to the conflictThis. UK , France and Germany want their ww3 against Russia. Ukraine has a US, UK and EU puppet gov.
>>538426837*economic resources
>>538426175They literally can’t. The elections are cancelled until Zelenskiy keeps getting money.
>>538426664>they should fight for some sort of arbitrary honor instead of surrendering and getting better termsi really cant wait till you useless eaters join them in the trenches cause the average iq is just wayy to retarded
>>538426837>Ukraine's long-term position depends on continuing Western support
>>538426790>unironically believing this horseshit about muh bucha despite there being zero proof and zero similar examplesMeanwhile the brave Azog warriors have been using civilians as shields since the start of the conflict.
>>538426859Doubtful that the EU and UK are ever going to be involved with boots on the ground, they lack the legitimacy to mobilize the population for a war. They are perfectly happy to grow their GDP by ponzi and have Ukraine fight
>>538426837I simplified this one: >>538426859
>>538426869end the level of oppression there is the highest you can imagine, people go to jail or directly to the frontlines for any post which doubt the sanity of this war. Say anything against the government and tomorrow you are in the middle of Konstantinovka waiting for FAB.
>>538426520No they couldn't, the 2022 "Deal" was never actually anything that Ukraine would have signed.But Russia lies and says Ukraine would have signed it because they like to lie.
>>538426889Zelensky spent the last few months begging for Patriot missiles that were depleted by almost a third to defend Israel. Ukraine has no actual industrial base to speak of.
>>538426461Ah yes they just collapsed cuz they felt like it just ignore everyone else who fought for it
>>538426987the could have even avoided the war completely and keep the Donbass
>>538426870Trying to get better terms with Russia is like Gaza trying to get better terms with Israel, you know they're not going to honor it and just come back to kill you anyway.If someone said they're going to exterminate you, why surrender and make it easy for them to line you up against the wall?
>>538426987You should fire your script writers? Seriously who is tasked to come up with the propaganda? Its a joke and an insult to intelligence
>>538426837Britain would've caved in to Germany without the US lend-lease, you doofus. Same thing is happening in Ukraine, they would've been conquered by russia by now, and fighting a guerilla war on most of their territory.
>>538426935They can. There are millions of muslims in EU. Once they build enough military equipment, they may train million shitskins in EU, and million shitskins in Turkey. This is , of course , a very retarded strategy, that may only work if Putins is asleep. Which we now know Putin was the only one who was cheated by fake EU and UK "negotiations" . Now I think even putin woke up and realized that you can't negotiate peace with EU and UK, all they do is drag conflict as long as possible so they have enough time to start making military gear.
>>538427048> you know they're not going to honor itSo far Russia is only party in this war that does exactly what it says
>>538427048Ah, it was outsourced to a marxist marketing agency that explains a lotHey tell us about the jew Marx al Islam
>>538427029
>>538427107Karl Marx is a rich german , who was married to one of the richest women in Germany. >i.e. rich oligarchs.
>>538427086>Mudslime importe going to die for the EU in Ukraine Ahahahahahahahahahaha ahahahahahahahahahaha You are serious aren't you Ahahahahahahahahahaha ahahahahahahahahahaha
>>538427041More Russia sucks at war, always have, couldn't even win WW2 without constant Western Support
>>5384266641. They join EEU and not disrespect their history2. They don't join the EU which has only made life hell for poorer and smaller countries So many shit countries in the EU with all their irrelevant issues get sidelined with "muh russian grievances"
>>538426175Let them die in peace They voted for this
>>538427071Britain would have survived without lend-lease. The rest of Europe not so much. The point I was making is that Germany was stretched thin with the Eastern Front whereas Russia is singularly focused on Ukraine.The situations are not comparable at all.
>>538426408Typing from the metro nuclear pidor
>>538427044No they couldn't, Putin didn't want the Donbass, he always wanted all of Ukraine, he still wants all of Ukraine, he's just trying to create a cope offer in the hopes that someone can come back 50 years later and take the rest.
>>538427190Show flag fail propagandist
>>538426914>unironically not believing "his lying eyes" and instead believing russian propaganda.you truly are a fucking moron, pidrila.>zero proof and zero similar examplespleanty of proof AND plenty of similar examples, you just don't want to hear and see it."russian military and occupation authorities have committed widespread war crimes and crimes against humanity against civilians in temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine since the full-scale invasion began in 2022. These systemic atrocities are documented by independent bodies including the United Nations Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine (HRMMU), Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch."
>>538427150Turks are already yapping that they have a million shitskins army that they can launch against Russia. There are a few million poor muslims in UK and EU. If you pay them enough , they may. As I said , this strategy is so retarded that its just retarded. Because turks historically raped, pillaged and sold people into slavery, etc. There would be all sorts of things going wrong there.
>>538427169>the rest of europe>lend-leaseit was payed off only by Russia by the way
>>538427102When has a Russian told the truth in this war?
>>538427151The war will reach it's military conclusion. No point in arguing this anymore eurofag
>>538426520The "ceasefire" was a surrender and would put Ukraine in an even worse position. They already know that Russia cannot be trusted with a ceasefire as they made the mistake of relinquishing their nukes and have learned from it.
>>538427239>desperation All the time. You now had to ban Russia Today , literally today. Why?
>>538427232Nigger, something is certain, should the EU including Roachistan get the retarded idea to draft syrians, niggers and what not, then the war doesn't happen in Ukraine but on the home front, civil warThe polity in the EU lags legitimacy. Hell they hardly are able to keep order as it is
>>538427190how doyoy know what he wats, and why is it different from what he says? Do you like read his mind, or check his horoscope? May be try just to listen what he says, that would be more useful. Don’t overthink.
>>538427048
>>538426790>russia ukraine>5 years>1,000,000+ combatants deaths both sides>10,000 civilian deaths>combatants to civilian deaths >100:1this is a clear genocide OMG! putin evil he yearns for the blood of innocents!>israel palestine>500 IDF deaths 15,000 hamas deaths>200,000 civilian deaths>combatant to civilian death ratios>1:13uh sweetie they are the most moral army in the world!
I suppose the NATO flag might really be Indian, the syntax and semantics chosen smell like curry
>>538427305Yet you can't name a single one.
>>538426175Why would they give up when could be killing Russians? >b-but they will die too!!Better than dying of clogged arteries like you will
>>538427239I think Ukraine refused to sign like several peace agreements that proposed better conditions that they are having now. And they were told this is what will happen if they will not sign. Where is the lie?
>>538427364>moving goal posts Yet you banned RT today . Tell us why.
>>538427182Why? Didn't your pidoranny discord decided I'm from Zaporizhzhia?Meanwhile refinery in pidor pederation is burning.
>>538427462You can't name these conditions, just these "Supposed conditions that were totally good for Ukraine, but you can't see them."
>>538427169>Germany was stretched thin with the Eastern Frontretard, Britain declared war on Germany in September 1939, 1.5 years befor there was any eastern front. Lend-lease started arriving in Britain in March 1941. When Germany attacked the USSR in late June 1941 it was on the offensive, conquering enormous territory and more that 3.5 million soviet soldier and officers by September 1941. It was not stretched thin until winter of 1942. Britain would've been already bankrupt by early 1941 if not for the US lend-lease.
Definitely curry>>538427364Rash show flag and tell us who outsourced his contract to a Callcenter in Mumbai
>>538427729The conditions Ukraine has now are still better that it will have in half a year.You also don’t believe this?
>>538427234>it was payed off only by Russiadon't lie, it was not, the USSR only paid off 7% of the WHOLE lend lease.
>>538426790Also they occupied Kherson, mariupol and whole that new part because they had a plant in Kherson SBU who removed the mines, not because of their war talents, lol. What they "honestly" occupied during last 4 years are only the parts of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. Add to that that their agents were destroying our country from inside for 30 years before it, they are afraid to attack a country without such preparations. So it seems our chances are good.
>>538427695No you brought up RT because you couldn't answer the question
>>538427784Yes, was stopped during cold war but the rest was payed literally by Putin. I think the last transfer was in 2010. It just tells you how fucked is Ukraine with its debt.
>>538427355retard, the definition of genocide includes many components, not only civilian deaths, as established in Article II of the 1948 Genocide Convention signed by the USSR and reaffirmed by russia after its independence.
>>538427874RanjetTell us who the company is thst outsourced their contract to your call center. That's a breech of contract
>>538427462>Ukraine refused to sign like several peace agreementswhich ones, can you name one or two of these "agreements"?
>>538427776How do you know, do you have psychic powers that can see the future? Sure people thought that the Taliban would never take back Afghanistan too. What happened there?
>>538427971RanjeetYour syntax reads like curry, you are not supposed to have that contract. Tell us who is breeching his contract so you can earn a couple 100 rupees
>>538426175Sunk cost fallacy, too much money and meat already have been poured into grinder to give up at this point, when '''they''' can still utilize the remained hohols to inflict maximum damage on Russia
So going by Ranjeets script, the script was written by some lefttards with a bleeding heart for Palestine, that actually narrows it down. Guess somebody is again losing a contract for hiring a sub contractor
>>538427971I don’t know what people you are talking about. Every normal person understands the situation.
>>538426400Not you again, piss off kike and take your VPN with you.
>>538428128>Sunk cost fallacyRich coming from this flag.
>>538427796> So it seems our chances are goodyeah, your chances are great, kek. you just got 90 billion $ and there's still 90 more for next year. Zelensky could never in his wildest dreams get those kind of money while he was a gay comedian. just keep the vans rolling and surrender 1-2 cities every 3 months. if things go really bad, get the plane to USA, buy a MIGA hat and call it a day.
>>538428213It's easy to understand that Russia doesn't have the manpower to conquer every square inch of Ukraine much less occupy it afterwards. The war is unwinnable, there's no level of killing people that will make the Ukrainians go "We want to be Russians now".
>>538428307A few hours ago I was a jeet. Make up your mind Sulemani al Marxi
>>538426175Why won't Russia give up?>Losing and mutilating millions of able bodied men over potato fields>Getting their economy destroyed irreparably, might take 100 years to recover>In case they somehow win, they get a destroyed country that they will have to rebuild and pacify, making it even worse economically (or risk having to deal with terrorism on the level of Chechnya x100)>Clearly stuck, with no improvement in sight, every day there are more sanctions and less oil available >All of that over some insignificant county that according to Russia doesn't even exist It's like this video with Russian stepping on a landmine he clearly sees. What's the point?
>>538428307I notice that they never actually say anything of value, so they're easy to ignore,
>>538428366Its so funny to read your text with an Indian accent. Tell us Ranjeet who hired you as a subcontractor, you are not supposed to have this contract. There were already three contractors fired for a similar case. 150 jeets lost their job as 25 shills are facing charges
>>538426175Russia's going to implode within a year.
>>538427796amazing chances, just instead of getting into EU you are already banned from entering it.
>>538426914Ah yea KGB shill denying anything that is inconvenient to him while accusing everyone else of being a shillYou aren't white
>>538428380 That's the stupid thing, the current ceasefire offer means Russia gets to keep what they took.Why is Russia fighting so hard and getting so many of their men killed and their economy destroyed.... all to claim it's just to get the last 20% of the Donbass.
>>538428534Ranjeeeeet, show flag
>>538428534> Why is Russia fighting so hardwhy don’t you just listen to russian explanation? You might find answers to all your stupid questions. Or you are not allowed?
>>538428509These people aren't sending their best. But at this point only Subhumans are stupid enough to still believe that Russia is strong.
>>538428534Ukraine is now beyond that ceasefire since they can just deep strike with drones they have no reason to stop until Russia goes back ALL the way.It just keeps getting more expensive for Russia now. Once the whole European part of Russia gets into strike range Russians will have no other choice than either get rid of putin and his goons or eat literal shit until they die of old age
>>538428607Ranjeeeeet, flag. You are not supposed to earn rupees being a sub contractor
>>538426175they have more to lose. if they give up they lose their country. if russian monke gives up things go back to normal
>>538428586None of the people in the 20% left of Donbass want to be part of Russia, Russia isn't saving them from oppression.
>>538428380Same reason the US couldnt let nukes exist in Cuba. The war started a week or two after Zelensky said he was going to get nukes and/or join NATO because even if Putin knows the west is just trying to kill with a borrowed knife he still has to go in.Its not that deep
>>538428653those people don’t even speak the same language with the army “defending” them. They are just used as live shield.
>>538428618Pretty much the fact that Putin's demands keep getting more and more unreal shows that the Russian leadership is starting to crack as well, at this point Ukraine is far more used to suffering than Russia is, force the average Russian to spend a year living like how Russia's treated Ukraine and things will turn real nasty for the Russians.
>>538428461There's nothing good in EU except gdpr and those guys who fine microsoft
>>538428735Actually most of them do, you really think the Ukrainian army only speaks Ukrainian?Fuck Azov was mostly made up of Russian speakers. Let me guess you bought that idea that Ukrainians were killing people for speaking Russian?
>>538428702So? If I were Ukrainian why would I give a fuck what Russia thinks? In fact I would try to make nukes asap since it would make me immune against any foreign invasion, see example north korea or Israel.Meaning that Russians invade not because they are afraid of nukes but because they are afraid that if the country gets them they can't invade anymore. Literally third world nigger behaviour.>Imma Rob your house before you can buy a gun to defend yourself Type of shit
>>538426175>What's the point>sacrificing more lives
Ranjeet, by not showing flag you made it necessary to officially force the retards of NATO to get an investigation going. Certainly a breech of contract of the contractor. Guess /pol/ is going to slow down even more in the following weeksAnother shill farm going to bite the dust
>>538428834That's the real reason Russia loves to chimp out about "NATO Expansion" Joining NATO makes it so they can't invade that country and steal it. Every nation that joins NATO is one less nation that Russia can fantasize about taking over.
>>538428380why Germany didn't give up while it was taking land during WW2?Russia won't give up while it's winning. No chance.it's high stakes poker and Ukraine is already broke. no money, no weapons, no manpower, no future. their fate is sealed. what survives the war will be split in two for the better part of the century - west side by EU/US because they have debts to collect. east side by Russia as spoils of war. Trump already has rare earths deals with both sides (how jewish of him) so he doesn't give a flying fuck.it's just Germany and Britain that want to continue the war and get as many slavs killed as possible to avoid post war problems with the survivors who would want to take back the ukie whore "refugees" back. that will mean less whore for the paki/jeet/turk immigrants and back to raping local girls.
>>538427879>rest was payed literally by Putinthe whole amount of the debt that was paid off by USSR and russia, as its successor in only debts and obligations, was 7% of the whole lend-lease provided by the allies.
>>538426175>What's the point in continuing this?From the perspective of who? The (((Ukrainian government)))? Money. Europe? Dead Russians(including Little Russians). America? Arms sales and dead Russians. China? Massive profits, cheap oil, and preventing America from pivoting to Asia.The people truly losing in this war are the Ukrainian people. But literally no one cares about them. Especially not their Jewish government. But Europe or anyone else either. No one hates Ukrainians more than their supporters.
>>538429085what exactly should the ukranians do then, give up and live a miserable existence under russian occuptation? their lives weren't bad before jewtin decided to launch his land grab operation
>>538428994whoah, buthurt belter talk.Everybody knows you are going to join Russia.No one gives a f*k what you want because you are p*ssy/
>>538429299>picrel: pidor's wet dreamvs. pootin in reality
>>538429255>what exactly should the ukranians do then, give up and live a miserable existence under russian occuptation? their lives weren't bad before jewtin decided to launch his land grab operationWhat an idiotic framing. Ukraine could have been independent forever had they agreed to be neutral(see Finlandization). Moreover, the territories they're fighting over don't even want to be Ukrainian. Who would? Ukraine is a cancerous corrupt impoverished Jewish shithole.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrCr0_E742k
>>538429299Not with the army Russia has now.
>>538426175what's the point of Russia continuing?They know they are trying to pull some niggerish shit? Why continue this folly? Ukrainians have something Russia doesn't. This is their fucking land, they lived on for centuries. Russia either raped or starved or bombed it. Its always been Russia's play thing, never its equal. Russia has no claim to Ukraine, Russia's envy of this land and its people, is represented in its pettiness in this war.
>>538429353thanks for confirming your delusional zigger bias
>>538429461I provided sources you stupid fucking nigger. Everything I say is true. No one wants to be Ukrainian. Why do you think Zelenskike banned everyone from leaving? No one would live in Ukraine unless they were forced.
>>538429353>had they agreed to be neutralYou have it all backwards, pidor. Ukraine WAS neutral when pootin invaded Crimea, and later Donbas. Yanukovych was still the president of Ukraine when russians implemented their plan to annex the peninsula. >the territories they're fighting over don't even want to be Ukrainian.according to who?
>>538429372> what's the point of Russia continuing?the weak should fear the strong. Ukraine is weak and poor, EU is weak and fat. they got uppity because USA won the Cold war for them. now they get reality check
>>538429553Did anything else happen in 2014 you stupid fucking kike?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXZLFmpLDPkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV9J6sxCs5k"Ukraineniggers dindunuffin". Fuck off. Who the fuck do you think you're talking to?
>>538426175Crimea. They can get Crimea, and that's all that really matters to either side.
>>538429553>the territories they're fighting over don't even want to be Ukrainian.I linked the video, retard.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKAt56zW0-g&t=741shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk6S9eLSLVQRegardless, are you surprised? Who the fuck would choose to live in Ukraine? The whole reason they wanted to join the EU was so they could leave.Y'all niggers act like Ukraine isn't an absolute shithole completely ruled by kikes where people have ZERO rights.
>>538429657what does any of it have to do with Ukraine being neutral at the time and russia anyway? >but muh russian agents provocateurs burnt themselves in Odesa!fuck off with your lies and shifting goal posts.
>>538429657https://t.me/ukrbavovna/26420>One of the Russian separatists, Gennady Kushnaryov, who moved to Odessa from Chelyabinsk and called for the killing of Odessans who did not agree that "Odesa is a Russian city.">On the same day, he was roasted alive in the House of Trade Unions.>dindunuffinSorry for BBQing your comrade, he should have stayed in russia
>>538429739>an absolute shithole completely ruled by kikes where people have ZERO rights.kek, total pidor projection!
>>538429861>an absolute shithole completely ruled by kikes where people have ZERO rights.some more pictures of russia's day to day life
>>538426175>Why don't they just give up?Because when you keep fighting you get to decide who on the enemy side should die in turn
>>538426175Good question. We can broaden it out. Any time a geopolitical actor insists on moving against its best interests, it is a captured entity being burned for some other gain. Look among who benefits to speculate on who's pulling the strings.
>>538429839Wow, ONE jingoist Russian national said something about killing opposition - how many Ukrainians make those exact comments about their own country's 'citizens' who speak a different dialect?
>>538426175Unfortunately Ukraine has terrible leadershipRussia had terrible military leadership and expected it to be a pushoverBut that was rooted in the belief that Ukraine would rather submit to Russian influence than see the country totally destroyed and millions deadVery sad outcome
>>538429966>a geopolitical actor insists on moving against its best interests,you mean like pootin invading Ukraine for no apparent reason with lots to lose and very little to gain?
>>538429861>Look at this picture from some shitty Russian village in the middle of nowhere.Russians are infinitely more free than Kikerainians. Richer too.Russians can leave any time they want to. Kikerainians are completely enslaved.
>>538429966Subhuman take, correct answer in post above yours
>>538429990>how many Ukrainians make those exact commentshow many?>ONE jingoist Russian national said something about killing oppositionpootin literally kills his opposition abroad, on russian streets AND inside russian prisons, you fucking pidor.
>>538426175WHY WOULD THEY GIVE UP WHEN THEY ARE WINNING THE ATTRITION WAR?
>>538430110Because russia wants to win
>>538430016>Russians can leave any time they want tono they can't>Russians are infinitely more free and richer.kek, goes to show how fucking delusional you truly are
>>538429652>>538429652who the fuck are you calling weak you dumb nigger? You monkeys are despised throughout the world, not feared. You're the ones who are Poor, your literally killing each other over gas and will shortly start killing each other over food if you haven't started eating each other already. The days of the old Soviet union died in the 90s only the reckless criminality remains in the hearts of its current leadership. Russia has exposed itself as shit nation ruled by thieves and liars.
>>538430136the smartest finlandian right here
>>538430016>but muh Jewish controlpootin's prime minister is a Jew - Mishustin, his chief's of staff last name is literally Israitel, hiding under the name Kirienko.
>>538429990They were armed and trying to occupy government buildings, just like they did it in Crimea, Donetsk and lugansk before it.>he wuz a gud boi, he dindu nufin, just said sumthin
Thermite Kiev
>>538430245> you monkeys> everyone who disagrees with me is a russianI called (you) dumb and (you) proved me right. case closed.
>>538429772Ukraine was neutral. Then the United States meddled in Ukraine's internal affairs to trigger a "color revolution" to illegally overthrow the Ukrainian government by supporting Right Sector and other far-right thugs, and hiring literal snipers, after brokering a power-sharing agreement where Yanukovych offered to pull back the police. But instead of following the provisions of that agreement, they seized the government the moment the police pulled back, then they illegally remove Yanukovych even though they didn't have the votes to impeach him. Russia sent "Little Green men" to push for Crimean Independence. Which was overwhelmingly supported by Crimeans even by western polling. NBC news went to Crimea and interviewed people on the street and literally couldn't find anyone who wanted to be part of Ukraine.Ukraine spent the next decade threatening Crimeans and the people of the Donbas with war and desolation. Telling them their children would be hiding in bomb shelters instead of going to schools. The Ukrainian government began banning everything Russian, and literally "hunting" separatists.The video I linked earlier was a Ukrainian officer doing an interview with Vice News a month before the war in 2022, where he said almost everyone in Eastern Ukraine is pro-Russia.Again, Ukraine is a total Jewish cesspit with no rights. No one would choose to be Ukrainian.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzXl7nX2rp8Even people like Arestovych and Iuliia Mendel(both who previously worked for Zelensky) have admitted to the reality of Ukraine.The only people who pretend Ukrainians are innocent victims are people who hate Ukrainians and only way to keep the war going for their own selfish interests. This war has nothing to do with the Ukrainian people.
>>538430397proof is in pudding and you have a VPN you dumb niggernow do the world a favor and hang yourself because Russians are niggers
>>538426175Slavic pride and thats about it desu, they'd be better off just surrendering novorossiya instead of slowly bleeding to death just so they can claim they didnt go out quietly but I do respect the martial spirit the Ukranians have about. After their invasion of Kursk failed I would've just called it quits
>>538426523>retarded leadersare all jew gangsters. they don't care if another million 'chenkos and 'chuks get blown up
>>538430143Drive around America, retard. There are bums everywhere. Why do you bother posting retarded ass pictures like it proves something?As I said before, no one hates Ukrainians more than their supporters. They couldn't care if they all die. They don't care that they have no rights. They don't care that Ukraine is effectively a big concentration camp with massive fences and barbed wire to prevent people from escaping. And where you get shot by border guards if you make it passed the fence.The biggest annoyance is that you fucking miscreants preach to me as if you have the moral high-ground.
>>538430398lies, too long, didn't read your russian propaganda bullshit.Bottom line, it's none of russia's business what Ukrainians do with their executive branch, the power comes from the people BY CONSTITUTION. When pootin triggered the student protest by bribing Yanukovych with 5 billion to change course from signing the EU agreement HE, POOTIN, caused the protests and Yanukovych's inevitable downfall. Two other branches of the government remained intact, so fuck off pidor with your lies.
>>538430443if VPN is some of the many STDs your mother has, then I don't have one. I'm probably the one of the very few men alive who hasn't fucked her. I have standards, see.
>>538430636no one lies more than russian shills, as evidenced by your every post.
>>538426175Because it's not up to them. Ukranda is not a sovereign country. It has no budget of its own. It does not decide anything anymore.
>>538430016>Russians are infinitely more free than KikerainiansI bought a phone with Linux (pinephone) during war and it was delivered, while Russian customs don't let it in, because it's too free for Russia (fsb backdoors can be easily removed if installed). Also prison sentences for drugs are much lower here, in Russia you easily get 8 years for having one bush of weed in your garden.>can leave any time they wantDidn't you have a draft during Vietnam war?
>>538429370Enough to liberate butthurt belt from butthurters.
>>538430837he's not an American. He surely sounds like a russian shill behind a VPN.
>>538430398>Seized the governmentFunny how there was never any sign of this, Yanukovych just showed up in Kharkiv in the middle of the night and then, despite Kharkiv being one of the places where he had good support, so very little chance of him having a problem, he still left the country for Russia.If all of Eastern Ukraine supported Russia why didn't he stay in Kharkiv or move to Dontesk, or hell he could have flown to fucking Crimea. If he really felt his life was unsafe in Kyiv there were plenty of places inside Ukraine he could have gone and in the process could have continued his duties as President and yes they did in fact have the votes to impeach him, the handful of people who weren't there that day wouldn't have been enough to keep him in office. Governments don't function very well when their supposed head of state defects to another country.
>>538430879>blond hair le bad>t.
>>538430837>look at this one thingYou know you're a shithole with no rights. Everyone knows it. So stop the bullshit.>Didn't you have a draft during Vietnam war?The Vietnam Draft had nothing in common with what is happening in Kikeraine. Ukraine banned everyone from age 18-60 from leaving on the first day of the war. Nothing remotely like that has ever happened in America, and we never had vans driving around kidnapping people off the street. We're civilized over here.>>538430956Not only am I American, I'm politically-aligned with the only true Americans. Neocons and leftists aren't American. They're kikes and globalists.
>>538430704>the many STDs your mother hasspeak for yourself you diseased monkey
>>538431062it was all part of pootin's plan to attack Ukraine. They had to whisk Yanukovych to russia, otherwise there would've been "a legitimate president" still in the country and russia couldn't go to phase 2 of invading Crimea. This plan was in the works since the early 2000s. The Tuzla Island incident was a test for Ukraine's resolve to resist russian aggression.
>>538426175>They will never be allowed to become a NATO member.They might, but it isn't worth it, specially with the cost they're paying right now. NATO as a whole isn't worth it.The problem is that ukraine and the EU as a whole has a strong vassal mindset.They don't care about having a strong and independent Europe.They care about vaing a Europe under strong American and Israeli control even if that means destryoing Europe in the proccess.Russia has plenty of issues and is far from perfect but at least they're independent. Instead of fighting them, Europe should work on a mutially beneficial middle ground with them. Europeans complain about Russian aggression but never question why aggression exists in first place. Japan, South Korea and the Arab states are also guilty of willingly being vassals. It's disgusting.
>>5384261751. Ukriane won't randomly collapse either. (It could in theory, but it's about as likely as russia imploding)2. Russia refuses a ceasefire at current front lines. Ukraine offered repeatedly.Russia demands massive concessions including territories it will take them years and years to take on the battlefield at current rates of advance.3. If it settles the war, it will become an impoverished country in massive debt , no young people, virtually no GDP and a small fraction of their coast line. Right now, they exist and their country functions. If the war and economic aid ends, they become a dirt poor insolvent shit hole.
>>538431062>Funny how there was never any sign of this, Yanukovych just showed up in Kharkiv in the middle of the night and then, despite Kharkiv being one of the places where he had good support, so very little chance of him having a problem, he still left the country for Russia.He didn't leave the country until after he was illegally removed from office.Regardless, I'm not interested in relitigating the past. I was only explaining that Russia was reacting to what America was doing. And if Russia had wanted to take all of Ukraine, 2014 was the perfect year to do it because Ukraine basically had no Army, and many had already defected to the Russian side. Moreover, had Russia simply wanted territory, it would have agreed to absorb Donetsk and Luhansk when they first declared their independence.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVXzwnU1H6U&t=355sWhat Russia actually hoped to do was leverage the breakaway regions to force Ukraine to actually implement the Minsk accords and to neutrality. Had that happened, there would be no war, and Ukraine would be whole today.
>>538431115> n-no, you!you sound as if your personal pride is hurt when somebody refuses to fuck your mother
>>538430086You're retarded if you think that one Russian opposition leader shout outside the Kremlin wasn't a CIA hit.
Thermite KievAnthrax KievSmallpox KievPlutonium dirty bomb KievWhite phosphorus KievDrop Congo Africans on KievInvite gays from San Francisco to KievICBM KievFire bat bomb KievGiant fart bomb KievOrthodox Jew KievSomali immigrant KievMRNA vaccine KievSend AOC to KievSend Laura Loomer to KievGlide bomb KievSuper Nazi artillery train shell KievTactical nuke KievTsar Bomba KievBless in the name of the talmud KievRestrictions on molestation of children in Kiev
>>538431273>but muh neutralityagain, you lying pidor shill, Ukraine was neutral by law when pootin invaded. HE made Ukraine declare the intention to join NATO because he attacked a neutral country first, thus proving neutrality next to russia is impossible. Just like he made 2 formerly neutral countries join NATO in 2023, namely, Sweden and Finland. pootin by his retardation causes countries join NATO, because it's a security guarantee against russian imperialism.
Ukraine is just Russia. Their entire country was cobbled up from Polish Czech and Hungarian lands in the west and Romanian and Russian lands in the South East.
>>538431370>you sound as if your personal pride is hurt when somebody refuses toyour lies and bullshit? get droned nigger
>>538431401kek, russian security is worse than previously thought! Isn't pootin supposed to be some sort of genius spy master?
>>538431502what lands was russia cobbled up from, pidrila?
>>538431471> Sweden and Finland> conducting military drills with NATO for decades> neutralkek
>>538431471THERE WAS A COUP YOU STUPID NIGGER. THE PEOPLE WHO SEIZED POWER WERE HOSTILE TO RUSSIA AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY DID WAS PASS A LAW TO STRIP THE RUSSIAN LANGUAGE OF OFFICIAL STATUS. IF YOU THINK UKRAINE IS ONLY NOT NEUTRAL BECAUSE OF RUSSIA YOU'RE A FUCKING RETARD. UKRAINE WAS PROMISED TO JOIN NATO IN 2008.I HATE YOU STUPID NIGGERS SOO FUCKING MUCH. YOU KNOW YOU'RE A SCUMBAG WHO DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK HOW MANY UKRAINIANS DIE.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi575J_wYdM
>>538431502Finland here, russia is one of the last countries to come into existence here, they're not old
>>538426175>What's the point in continuing this?Dead Whites.>What's the point in sacrificing more livesMoloch demands it.>mostly stagnant conflict*chef's kiss* callback to Mostly Peaceful>with little chance of significant breakthroughs?The progress towards rebuilding Khazaria is excellent. As long as ZOG retains control of western Ukraine, they can demographically replace the few remaining Ukrainians and form a Jewish state.>>538426400>Tell us more about the jew shitskin bin leftshitName is Zelenski. Suspended the constitution and declared his policy for Ukraine to be demographic replacement to create a Jewish state. He then pardoned all Jews from the draft and let them leave the country while hunting all other citizens for bussification and even calling for extradition of refugees. To this day, you can bribe TCC to issue you a certificate saying your'e Jewish in order to avoid the draft.
>>538431671>russia>allowing NATO planes to refuel and land in its airports on the way to Afghanistan>NATO is supposedly existential threat to russiaLMAO
>>538426408are you holding a gun anon?
>>538426175>Why doesn’t a jew stop trading White men’s bodies for hundreds of billions of dollars and euros?Anon...
>>538431793> what about Afghanistan?tell me more about Afghanistan, please
>>538430879How was it illegal, it was a 328–0 vote. are you saying the 117 people who weren't there at the time would have somehow allowed him to remain in office?His own party voted to kick him out.
>>538426461>Cause they don't want to be slaves of Russia?Every single peace agreement Russia offered before the SMO and even during has called for an independent Ukraine. At no point have Ukrainians been at risk of enslavement by Russia.>Russia has already historically collapsed twice because of an economic crisisThe "Collapse" of the Soviet Union was a bloodless releasing of The Ukraine, which instantly fixed the budget because The Ukraine is a toxic financial asset. This is also probably why Russia doesn't want to acquire anything west of the Dniepr.>>538426543>Why didn't Britain give up when German planes were flying over London?Because the Prime Minister was an alcoholic owned by Rothschilds and he had the entire planet on his side against a country of 40 million.>>538426664>If Ukraine surrenders they have no futureThey get self-determination and free elections to remove the Jewish tyrant, ensured by Russian security guarantees. No more CIA coups.>the people destroying their future.Russians didn't build biolabs in Ukraine or extract the nation's wealth to American slush funds. Russians didn't bussify two and a half million men and force them at gunpoint to march into minefields for a war they overwhelmingly want to surrender in.
>>538431679why would russian language need "an official status" in regions where only 10% of the population spoke rusian if, according to you pidor shills, Ukrainian and russian are virtually the same? Why is it any of russia's concern, other than imperialist policy, what languages are official? "russian speakers" are more than 20% in Israel, has pootin invaded Israel because russian is not official there? This fake "russian language issue" is only used by pootin as an excuse to invade Ukraine, not other country is held to the same standard.
>>538432021nice deflection, pidrila
>>538431679THEY PASSED THE LANGUAGE LAW IN 2019 FIVE YEARS IS A LONG FUCKING TIME TO MAKE IT THE "FIRST THING THEY DID"
>>538432081>>538432140And y'all wonder why no one in Eastern Ukraine wanted to be part of that Jewish shithole.Regardless, you need to imagine for a moment that you aren't Jewish. I know it's hard, but I think you can do it.
>>538432067>Russian ElectionsRussia claimed the city of Zaporizhzhia overwhelmingly voted to join Russia in 2022.How did that city vote to join Russia when there were no polling stations because the city was still held by Ukraine?Are you saying Russian poll workers infiltrated the city and set up top secret voting booths right under the Ukrainians noses and then everyone voted to join Russia?
>>538432081It's not fake, retard. It's literally the reason Kikelensky got elected. And he promise to bring peace.
>>5384267904chan has reverse image search. Here's the 2022 article this pic appears in>https://theins.org/news/251416>https://archive.is/2NpftAccording to the article's interview with one of the men picture, they were unflagged combatants out of uniform. These are explicitly not covered in any GC protocol and it's absolutely normal behavior for professional militaries to kill bandits and pirates. That being said, the interviewee claims he was shot, played dead, then got up and ran away after an hour. This is also claimed to be in Bucha, and we know now that the butchers of Bucha were Ukrainian forces. So put yourself in the shoes of Russian professional military liberating an ethnic Russian town that's just had almost a hundred people genocided for being Russian. You capture 8 armed combatants alive with no flags or markings. There's no military on Earth that would have let them walk.
>>538432270You're the one who got caught in a lie about the language law which only mandated that government documents be in Ukrainian.
>>538426408Keep killing those ruskies fren
>>538432374NIGGER. I LINKED IT IN MY PIC. GO BACK AND LOOK. OR GOOGLE IT YOURSELF.Anyway, I done talking to meme flags. Waste of my fucking time.
>>538426889Ukraine has less than 20 million people left within its borders, its state is funded entirely by foreign nations, its military was trained and equipped entirely by foreigners, it has no industry of its own, and its demographic future is uncertain even if the war ends now.>>538426987>the 2022 "Deal" was never actually anything that Ukraine would have signed.It was a good deal and the best deal they could reasonably get. The unreasonability of Ukraine's foreign tyrant doesn't mean the deal was bad.>But Russia lies and says Ukraine would have signed itBecause they did. That's why Boris Johnson flew into Kiev to tell them to break the deal.>>538427048>you know they're not going to honor it and just come back to kill you anyway.Jews have an ethnic objective to kill goy inside of the "Greater Israel" region. Russians are defending ethnic Russians in the Donbas region from the Jew who runs Ukraine and wants to kill ethnic Russians.>If someone said they're going to exterminate you, why surrenderRussia never did this.
>>538427169>Britain would have survived without lend-lease.Britain and the rest of Europe survived because the 3rd Reich's entire war effort was to protect Europe from Bolshevik Jews. But no, the UK would not have defeated Germany on its own without the Soviet Union and American Empires. If either of those two had not participated, Germany would have united Europe, including England, into a federation under a super-state. You're fucking retarded.
>>538427190>Putin didn't want the Donbass>he always wanted all of UkraineThe Ukraine is independent because the Soviet Union intentionally got rid of it to balance its finances. The Donbas is relevant to Russia as a military objective because they have all of the ethnic Russians, all of Ukraine's valuable resources, and were under threat of Genocide. After failing the Armenians, Putin could not have ignored a second anti-white, anti-christian ethno-religious conflict on his border.
>>538427230I've actually read the Amnesty International report. In the fine print it says they attribute all war crimes committed in the war to Russia, even those committed by Chechens or even Ukrainians. For the rest of the report, they don't specify which war crimes were committed by which faction.
>>538427292>The "ceasefire" was a surrender and would put Ukraine in an even worse position.All deals offered by Russia have been more favorable than the contemporary battlefield conditions. All deals called for Ukraine to remain an independent country and to have elections. All of these deals were overwhelmingly supported in public opinion polling by Ukrainians.>They already know that Russia cannot be trusted with a ceasefire as they made the mistake of relinquishing their nukesRetarded take. Ukraine is in this conflict because they started a military conflict agaisnt ethnic Russians inside the CIS and reject a decade straight of Russia's diplomatic attempts to end it. If they had nukes, this would still be an existential conflict that Russia is forced to fight or die.>>538427796>Also they occupied Kherson, mariupol and whole that new part because they had a plant in Kherson SBUZelenski ordered Azov to surrender and refused to reinforce them. Because he's not playing to win. He's playing to kill as many Whites as possible. The plant isn't a low level stooge it's the entire leadership of the country. None of them are pro-Ukraine. They're all Jews and NAFO ZOG slaves who hate Ukrainians.>Ukraine is heavily infiltrated by Russian agents and has lost half its population So it seems our chances are good.k
>>538428366>It's easy to understand that Russia doesn't have the manpower to conquer every square inch of Ukraine much less occupy it afterwards.They don't need to or want to.>The war is unwinnableRussia is fighting a defensive war against NATO for its survival. They've publicly given up on a diplomatic solution. All they need is a fortified border. So a minefield on the near-side of the dniepr and then north into the baltic region is a Russian victory.
>>538428380>millionsTotal Russian casualties are still under 2 million>might take 100 years for Russia to recoverTheir export economy is stronger than before, their population increased, and they gained over a trillion in actualizeable resources and the best farmland in Europe>they get a destroyed country that they will ahve to rebuild and pacifyThey're only taking the parts that literally rebelled against Ukraine to join Russia. They've already rebuilt Mariupol, so 5 years after the war's over we can expect the region to be not only rebuilt but producing lots of minerals.>every day there are more sanctions and less oilBRICS is more than half of human activity. Sanctions failed.
>>538432467You said it was the "FIRST THING THEY DID"It clearly wasn't, they had five years of Russians behaving like Ziggers before they finally went "Fuck you Language only in Ukrainian cause we hate you." If Mexico was constantly sending Bandits to attack Texas while screaming "TEXAS IS MEXICAN CLAY!!!!" They'd have no reason to cry if the US passed a law saying "You have to use English on all Government Documents"They passed the law because Russia kept screaming "UKRAINE BELONGS TO RUSSIA!!!!!!!!!"So they rejected the Zigger language out of spite
>>538433085If you're only Independent if you "Do whatever Russia tells you to do always blindly side with Russia and always do Russia's bidding" you aren't Independent.
>>538427169>Britain would have survived without lend-lease. The rest of Europe not so much.The USSR defeated Germans strategically before Lend Lease even got going. Once Maikop was abandoned in Jan of 1943 it was beyond over for the Nazi war machine. Hitler had even admitted it was over if they couldn't get and hold the oil fields and yet he kept wasting German lives, much like Putler is doing today. And Britain, being an island, was more dependent on US supplies than anyone else. They received 3x the value of the supplies that the USSR did, while doing almost none of the fighting. Your stupid OP makes more sense given this complete lack of understanding of history.>>538426175And why should Ukraine be the ones to give up? You're right about this part: >mostly stagnant conflict with little chance of significant breakthroughsThere is zero chance of a breakthrough that Putin can capitalize on. There are 50 km of defensive works behind the entire front. A limited Russian breakthrough would eat an unlimited number of drones up its ass from all directions.>What's the point in sacrificing more livesThat's a question for the little Asiatic Putler. He puts no value at all on the lives of his men. Throwing away 1k casualties a day to gain territory slower than WW1 armies. It's literal insanity.
>>538433430Britain and Russia jointly invaded Iran together simply so the British could use the Iranian railroad to send Russia supplies in 1941.
>>538433346IT WAS ON FEBRUARY 23RD 2014 YOU STUPID FUCKING NIGGER.But yes, they later made even harsher restrictions on the Russian language, and the Russian church. It's illegal to even sing a Russian song.Regardless, no one wants to be Ukrainian. Which is why they sent people to torture, arrest, and murder "separatists", and banned everyone from leaving.Anyone defending Ukraine are certified kikes hiding behind memeflags. Fuck off faggot.
>>538428618>since they can just deep strike with drones they have no reason to stopThey got 8 of 200 drones through in one attack that they can't repeat at an appreciable tempo. This does not translate into the ability to win the war.>It just keeps getting more expensive for Russia nowIt doesn't, actually>Once the whole European part of Russia gets into strike range range Russians will have no other choiceThan to launch nukes in this existential conflict which Europe forced on them.>>538428653>None of the people in the 20% left of Donbass want to be part of RussiaThey fought a revolution to declare independence from Ukraine, then voted overwhelmingly to join Russia. You can watch youtube videos on youtube of them welcoming Russian soldiers, and you can just go to your local Orthodox church and ask Ukrainians about it in person.>>538428834>In fact I would try to make nukes asap since it would make me immune against any foreign invasionAttempting to get nukes is what put Ukraine in this position. >If I were Ukrainian why would I give a fuck what Russia thinks?Because they're the same race and religion and have the common history of the USSR and have family in each other's countries and everyone over 40 in both countries identify with the soviet union more than RF or Ukraine. Have you ever even met a Ukrainian?>IsraelCurrently fighting wars on all fronts including regular assassinations inside their country. Nukes do not protect you when you are the aggressor and try to genocide all your neighbors.>>538428994>Joining NATO makes it so they can't invadeRussia's public signalling right now is that they're preparing for the conflict to expand into a direct war with NATO. NATO cannot win militarily. If Russia didn't fight, they'd be genocided. If they do, they survive and defeat people who hate them. Really simple calculus.>>538429000>east side by Russia as spoils of war.*democratic referrendum
Because if they give up now the Russians will EAT THEM ALL!
>>538429255>what exactly should the ukranians do then, give up and live a miserable existence under russian occuptation?Russia's terms for a Ukrainian surrender are that they have free elections and an independent country. So yes, that would have been a good deal to accept instead of accepting the Jewish tyrant who suspended their constitution and interferes in their church life.>their lives weren't bad before jewtin decided to launch his land grab operationPutin isn't Jewish, and half the Jews in Russia fled in the last three years and are kvetching about him, and all the ZOG countries are against him.
>>538429372>Ukrainians have something Russia doesn't. This is their fucking landThe Donbas Republics don't belong to The Ukraine by any right, actually.>for centuriesModern Ukraine has existed for 30 years. All of its history as an independent state prior to that is as Kievan Rus. Every single person you could take from there through a time machine to today would have murdered the Jewish tyrant and sided with the Russians in an instant decision made by physiognamy.>Russia's envy of this land and its peopleThe reason that an independent Ukraine exists today is because the Soviet Union decided it was a toxic financial asset and ZOG decided it was a good place to launder money and hide a bioweapons program.
>>538432270Retards like you calling a White ethnostate "jewish" are actual scum. Ukraine had barely 100k kikes before the war, on a population of 41 million. That's a significantly lower proportion than in the US, for example. Meanwhile, Russia's oligarchs are of course a bunch of kikes and Moscow is Chabad central. And Putin hasn't materially helped his supposed allies in Iran because Israel has 2 million Russian speakers, as he's said. Calling either country jewish is of course retarded, but Russia has objectively more jewish wealth and power than Ukraine.
>>538430001>Russia had terrible military leadershipRussia completed an encirclement of Kiev and had a signed surrender in a 2 day blitz. The military leadership is exceptional. Putin ordered them not to strike the Ukrainian armed forces and kill 200k men in the opening moves because muh optics. It was also Putin's decision to pursue a peace agreement and honor the terms by withdrawing. None of these major gaffes were the fault of military leadership.>But that was rooted in the belief that Ukraine would rather submit to Russian influence than see the country totally destroyed and millions deadUkrainians overwhelmingly support doing this. That's why Zelensky suspended the constitution.
>>538433881>Jewish government>White ethnostatePick one.You're a fucking kike. Never talk to me again.
>>538430015>for no apparent reasonDamn, if only he had released a 1 hour lecture on youtube on the day of the invasion, things might have been clearer. Hopefully a major political podcaster can get an interview with him explaining in detail the entire step-by-step historical reasons for the conflict starting with Kievan Rus. Too bad there aren't yearly economic forums where international reporters are allowed to ask Putin questions.We're 4 years into this conflict and you're still ignorant on this subject? Lurk more nigger
>>538433881Russia has absolutely materially aided Iran with air defense, retardWhy do you bother writing posts when you don't know anything and do nothing but lie? If you see my name, don't bother replying. Or I'll call you out for the retarded lying nigger you are.
>>538433552>The Repeal was not signed into law .
>>538430015>>538433989Or wrote an entire article a few months earlier.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6YeIM85SJg
>>538433814>The Donbas Republics don't belong to The Ukraine by any right, actually.By international agreement that Russia was a party to.>Modern Ukraine has existed for 30 years.And their ancestors have lived there for millennia.>Kievan RusYes, Predates Russia. Maybe Moscow is rightful Ukrainian territory? None of these are arguments.>bioweapons program.Start with that next time so people can ignore your fucktarded zigger propaganda posts.
>>538434016It was passed by parliament. It didn't come into effect only because the president never signed it. It would have come into effect the moment it was signed. Moreover, a much harsher version was passed a few years later. And the only reason Zelenskike won election is because he was overwhelmingly supported in the east for opposing the 2019 law. He also literally promised that he would bring peace to Ukraine, and that if he couldn't, he would step down.Those are the facts.
>>538430660>Bottom line, it's none of russia's business what Ukrainians do with their executive branchIt explicitly is under the tripartie treaty.> the power comes from the people BY CONSTITUTIONThe Ukrainian constitution is suspended by a CIA installed Jew.>Two other branches of the government remained intactIncredible cope. Absolutely stupendous. Ukrainians did not have the right to self-determination anymore, due to interference by ZOG. Their state posed a threat to the self-determination and survival of the Russian people. Putin acted. The thing you're seething about is that you wish more goy were dead.
>>538426175spastic attacks on apartment buildings are always the sign of a country that is winning a war. definitely not the a sign of a dictator losing his grip.
>>538426408Keep up the good work
>>538426175why don’t they just continue to kill russians with my tax money?
>>538426175Is this a low effort bait or are you for real?
>>538426408Based. Fuck the vatniks.>p-pls s-surrenderWoman moment.>NO.Chad moment.
>>538426175>>538426408I don't get it, if Russia targeted Ukrainian infrastructure they could take control so easily.Now they're looking more incompetent and weak every day.
>>538426351>>538426400Ukrainian Jews fled to Israel.
>>538432067>Russian security guarantees.
>>538432805>under threat of GenocideCare to elaborate?
>>538431062>Memeflag pretending Ukraine's democratic processes were intact and telling a narrative of Ukraine's revolution without mentioning Victoria Newland or American SOF or western moneyed interests>No mention of the CIS or tripartie treaty from which Ukraine derives its independence>>538431257>Ukriane won't randomly collapse either. (It could in theory, but it's about as likely as russia imploding)Ukraine has no industry, no population, is financed entirely by other countries, and has lost all of its farmland and resources. The entirety of its young are either dead or have lived abroad for half a decade. Its young women in particular are getting murdered by niggers on American public transit or whoring in Poland. It's a nation of <20 million 50 year olds with no economic activity and a debt-GDP whose denominator is 0. That's not Ukraine's future. That's right now. The frontline collapses we witness where a town suddenly falls are because Ukrainian manpower shortages sometimes result in being unable to staff a whole sector of the front. They're running so low on men they can't keep drone coverage over the whole front.>Russia demands massive concessions including territories it will take them years and years to take on the battlefield at current rates of advance.Territories of Independent Republics, whose populations Zelenski is trying to genocide, and whose populations voted to join Russia. It is not a concession on Ukraine's part to let the Russians in historically Russian clay join Russia after their successful decade long revolution.
>>538426408Good shit. You guys are strong. Fuck the vatniks hard with no lube.
>>538431257>Ukriane won't randomly collapse eitherThe Ukraine will never recover, even if the war stopped today.
>>538434513>Care to elaborate?Ukraine banned everything Russian. Zelensky gave a speech where he told Russians in the Donbas to leave. If Ukraine were actually to win this war, all Russians would be ethnically-cleansed. Not even the biggest Ukrainian simp would deny it.
>>538432029>quorum at 73%>117 absent due to coercion>kinetic action in the streets>CIA and US SOF everywhereThis is your appeal to legitimacy?
>>538426175Because they are like the emperor in 40K: they sustain themselves forever by sacrificing 1000 Russian souls a day.
>>538434597l mean all sounds like projections given that actual Ukraine citizens have been targeted. Weird to hand-ring about hypothetical future killings by disregarding the ones currently happens. Sounds Jewish
>>538434782>l mean all sounds like projections given that actual Ukraine citizens have been targeted.Russia isn't targeting Ukrainian citizens, retard. Russia doesn't gain anything from dead Ukrainians. It was Ukraine/America who wanted this war. The Ukrainian people are either pro-Russia, or want to escape Ukraine but can't.
>>538434782>>538434879Err, civilians.
>>538432081>Okay, so the people openly hostile to ethnic Russians started removing constitutional protections for their ethnicity, but did those people really NEED those protections?Once again, the "Ukraine Supporter" is revealed to be a raped kikeslave who just really hates slavs.>>538432299>Russia claimed the city of Zaporizhzhia overwhelmingly voted to join RussiaCan you show me this claim? Can't find it anywhere.>>538433429>If you're only Independent if you "Do whatever Russia tells you to do always blindly side with Russia and always do Russia's bidding" you aren't Independent.Now replace "Russia" with "NATO" and your principle makes Ukraine no longer independent. Thanks for playing. memeflaggot.>>538433881>White ethnostate "jewish" are actual scum. Ukraine had barely 100k kikes before the warOne of those kikes currently rules the country under a suspended constitution and has his forces destroy churches as part of the Ukrainian State's plan to convert the region into a Jewish State. This is the publicly stated plan Zelensky has, you mong.>Russia's oligarchs are of course a bunch of kikesWere. They've fled the country. You don't think it's odd that all of the Zionist Occupied Governments are on the side of Ukraine and opposed to Russia? Nothing about that makes you think Zionists are uniquely on the Ukrainian side ofthe conflict?>>538434085>By international agreement that Russia was a party toUkraine violated the agreement by deciding to be a threat to another CIS state. An agreement isn't a unilateral oath.>And their ancestors have lived there for millennia.Russian ancestors. You're demonstrating a lack of cognitive ability if you think Zelenski's claim to rule Ukraine can be constructed this way against the Russian Nation.>Bioweapons program not realTulsi Gabbard just declassed this.
What this guy said >>538434597But also Ukraine's armed forces were artillery striking residential areas in the Donbas Republics and were staging for an invasion. That's what forced Russia's hand to launch their SMO.>>538434782>Weird to hand-ring about hypothetical future killingsThe Donbas Republics had declared independence and had their own uniformed armed services to protect them from the actual and ongoing Ukrainian murder of ethnic Russians in their region. There's also a religious component to the conflict related to the creation of the Kyiv Patriarchate, which Mossad and Azov were heavily involved in. Way too long to make the case for it in a 4chan thread, especially if you're unfamiliar with church politics. But basically their language and religion were being targeted already, and there was constant stochastic terrorism agaisnt their ethnicity, and there was a massing invasion force to kill them, and the Jew installed by foreigners was openly talking about turning Ukraine into a Jewish state, and they witnessed the influx of Africans, and European leaders were publishing maps of Russia broken up into rump states. Ethnic Russians understand this as an existential threat. That's the correct way for them to understand it. It is just and right to respond with violence.
>>538426664Demonic anti white Europe said the same thing to Chechens back in 2000s but look where the situation is how. Chechens are happy and prospering in Russia.Everything white hating euro leaders say are lies
>>538426543Because it was run by a drunkard without morals who made Britain destroy European civilization in a kamikaze attack for the benefit of his jewish creditors.
>>538426175Because giving up is worse than the current status quo.Subjugation to Russia is giving up as a nation. It's making sure you can never productively deal with anybody their paranoid elite view as 'enemies' even economically. Because even trade is a betrayal to those psychos.
>>538426175Why give up? So Russia can inflict the most humiliating and harsh peace treaty ever? Who even knows if Russia would even want a peace deal and not all of Ukraine outright
>>538426175>please surrender so based russia can win? :(lmaoif russia can't defeat ukraine without them giving up, they don't deserve it.
>>538435656>if russia can't defeat ukraine without them giving up, they don't deserve it.anon the same is true for germany on both world wars considered that their enemies (you) had unlimited resources from kikes in the us, not that I like the other ape of putin especially considering how many arabs are there and how little he actually cares about slavs
>>538435555Keep spewing that anti white globohomo slop you antichrist fuck. Ukraine would get better and happier lives and better deal under Russian then with EU, who would sooner see all white Ukrainian dead and replaced with brown and black mystery meat Urukai hordes
>>538426686Britain did not lose half it's population during WW2
>>538432067>Russian security guaranteesThere is literally no one in the world who wants Russian security guarantees. Russian security guarantees couldn’t stop Azerbaijan from raping Armenia, they’re worth less than the shit in my toilet.
>>538435962That’s right Britain continued on with its proud tradition of getting whites killed and made sure other white countries in Europe lost half of their white populations.>>538435656>The rule of shrek bongAnywhere Britain tries to stick its disgusting bog swamp nose into, white people deaths are sure to follow.One can almost argue that the entirety of Britain’s domestic and foreign actions always centers on killing as many white people as possible.
>>538435037They said Zaporizhzhia voted to join Russia, most of the population lived in that city.So the only way for the region to have voted to join Russia would be if the city somehow voted.Russia told everyone in that they wanted to join Russia including that city., they said they held elections and everything.So either Russia somehow secretly held an election inside Ukrainian held territory, of their election was completely bullshit.It's like saying that if Canada invaded the US and managed to conquer the Western half of New York and then declared that all of New York voted to join Canada.And New York City is down there going "Since when?"
>>538426408TZD must continue, godspeed
>>538434514>Victoria Newland and her mind control cookiesPull the other one>>538434608>CIA and US SOF everywhereCan I see them?:
>>538426175Think of all the poor defense contractors.
>>538434140>CIA Installed JewOleksandr Turchynov is a Christian Petro Poroshenko was also a Christian Or do you really think Zelensky has been President for 12 years?
>>538436071you're confusing russia with britain. putin invaded ukraine. half a million whites died as a result. putin is importing indians to replace them to boost their GDP.putin constantly makes statements about how russia's rich multiethnic tapestry makes russia strong.
>>538435037Which is why NATO joined the US in bombing Iran right? Because NATO always has to obey the US?
>>538435962>Loses what's left of it's Colonies after WW2No it lost worst, but they were mostly Indians so it was no great loss
>>538435240>Chechens are happy and prosperingIt's a corrupt shithole where one tribe bullies the others and it's ultimately the biggest welfare leeches in Russia because Putin is terrified that if he cuts off the gibs they'll leave again
>>538436631Bla bla blaEven now Britain is no doubt busy trying to figure out a way to false flag trap Germany into escalating its participation in the Ukraine war. More like starting because so far despite best British efforts Germans have stayed out of this stupidity. BUT LMAO NEED TO KILL MORE WHITE PEOPLE.Whoever it was who observed here that British elites seem to hate British common folk had it almost right. It’s not even hate, it’s absolute maniacal, seething, uncontrollable genocidal hatred. Every day a British elite wakes up, they spend their time thinking about how they can get more white British girls raped tortured and killled, local population reduced to absolute poverty and suicide and other diabolical infernal antichrist thought atrocities and thoughts of heinous evil.
>>538436554Poroshenko worked for the WEF/World bank. Both run by jews. And his election was stolen by not sending ballots to Donetsk. That ruined the ceasefire and started the whole war again.And he waa corrupt as fuck
>>538436728Uhuh.Seem to be having the time of their life fighting for Putin, building mosques and training MMA 2-3 years in Dagestan so they can come to ufc and beat everyone to pulp Btw bro…Just because a place isn’t worshipping trannies doesn’t make it a corrupt shithole you schizoid loser fuck
You're walking around Gdańsk, strolling around after your trip to the United States, and bam—you run into Vakarchuk, the captain of the Ukrainian Armed Forces...
>>538436867 <== a mentally retarded person talks about Russia, knowing about it only from RT reports and the sweet tales of Russian propaganda
>>538437038Shut your fucking mouth bonger before I call in all of your gambling debts to Russia’s churkas in Moscow
>>538426408Based I love how much non-white seething this war has generated Reminder OP is from a 60-70% BROWN nation if you look at the young people statistics. KEK
>>538426523Nice Self Projection You are a irrelevant nation With basically Civil War as your future Due to mass migration your people are gearing up on both the native & muslim sides to kill one another. Enjoy the race riots & 20-30 years of ethnic wars in all nations that did mass migration, all the way to Russia the world's 4th largest mass mgiration nation XD
Russia is going to collapse and no amount of cope from ziggers will prevent it.
>>538437038Russia & America are declining powers Half of your nations young people are not white Russians or white Americans You are brownoids now. Accept it. You all died in two world wars and you went from 33% of the planet population to 7-8% if you count hispanics, arabs, & jews so it's more like 3-4% and half of that are old people & onlyfans whores. Admit it That it's over There would be more dignity in your situation if you told the truth anon ;D But do it in private You cannot do it on here Russians & Americans do not have free speech and will go to goy jail if they say naughty things. You Won' WWII ;D You're A Winning 1.4 Million Russians Gone or Maimed Forever B-a-s-e-d & Red-Pilled
A Winner*** Begone Jannies Helter Skelter --- Imperium Aeterna You should all just admit Your Jewish Global Society is imploding Normies are going to die lmfao they're going to kill each other & I will laugh at them I may die too But So will everyone else XD
>>538437289For a third time In a century G r i m D a r k
Based Azov Super Soldiers Slaughtering Commie Antifaggot Nigger Ziggers I Approve. I Voted For This
Goodnight Antifaggots You're Going To Lose The Space War Following The Collapse After This War ;D
Hundreds of Patriot Front Just Stormed Into D.C. Holy Fucking Kek I Broke The Timeline On Multiple Levels
>>538436841You couldn't even get his religion right and you expect me to believe that? And how can Ukraine know that the votes in the region would even be legit considering it's under foreign occupation?
>>538427355>200,000 civilian deathsno 800 000 are "missing" in gaza, which means under the ruble.ukraine is 20 000 dead civilians.
>>538426790They didn't take it back. Ukraine started bombing the damb up the river. Either they would all die or retreat. It was a low land, so staying tgwre would be costly.Ob the contrary, ukraine tries to hold on any peolce of land at the costs of human lives. Like now sloviansk aglomerarion is in low lands with basically a single road as a supply line, under russia fpv control. 60k ukrainians are there to hold it and russians will have no issue killing them all at very low losses on their sides. But cobsidering how ukrainians conduct war, zelensky will send another 100k solders there to hold the line...
>>538426408Бeнзин ecть?
>>538437864У мeня нeт.
>>538437890Чтo cлyчилocь?
>>538426914Zero similar examples? Oh I guess you're just ignoring the countless videos of them gunning down civilians in broad daylight or the countless photos of civilian cars lined up with bodies inside them or on the side of the road.You dumb russian apologists are just as subhumanly retarded as lefties who do hamas apologia "there's no waaay all those rapes happened! Hamas are freedom fighters they're not pigs!" Oh yeah, right they were so honorable and noble to only shoot their captives in the mouth, so nice of them, there's no way a murderer would so something so heinous as raping someone no way.Same with the russians, they only blockaded cities and murdered everyone inside because it was a tactic of war! That's all it was, they HAD to line up those people and shoot them (the kids too) it's got nothing to do with them being subhumans that would do this to Ukranians even if the war was over, no way, russians are way better than that.It's retard, you're retarded, get off the internet and rope yourself.Make sure to film it so we can all have a good laugh.
>>538426408Based. All our prayers and Archers to you!
