Here in USA it's not uncommon for the average blue collar worker to have 2nd properties like lake houses and cottages. I myself have a 2nd home on 40 acres of property to hunt on. Why THE FUCK would I ever support communism?
>it's not uncommon It is.
>>538427385fpbp
>>538427384Over half of your shithole country lives paycheck to paycheck though. This isn't an endorsement or post in defense of communism btw. It's just a fact.
>>538427385>>538427386It literally isn't. Virtually every single blue collar worker in the Midwest and south has 2nd properties, or expensive toys like 4x4s or quads that they take out wherever. >>538427387Perhaps in coastal states? Like California and New England which also happen to be far left with things like "rent control."
>>538427388All bought outright with no loans or credit cards up to the eyeballs, right?
>>538427388>Virtually every single blue collar worker in the Midwest and south has 2nd properties, sauce>or expensive toys like 4x4s or quads that they take out wherever.Yeah and my niece had a 2025 Bronco despite being an entry level nurse. It got repo'd. Having "toy's" means exactly shit.
>>538427389Depends on the age of the person. My brother in law is 23 years old and has a dune buggy he takes to the dunes here in Michigan as well as a Mustang GT. In a couple years he'll have paid them off and then will have assets. He works in a factory.
>>538427390>SauceIt's common knowledge. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1121-1131-Lake-Dr-Harrison-MI-48625/463555730_zpid/A mailman tops out at $39/hr and could afford this shit even without overtime
>>538427384Nice bait
>>538427393See>>538427392You'd be amazed on what you can afford if youre not spending $250 a week on weed
>>538427391>they in fact do NOT own 2nd properties, or expensive toys like 4x4s or quads that they take out wherever
>>538427392>>538427394Not every mailman job is the same nor are they all unionized. Many have decent pay but shit benefits or fucked up working hours and limited workers comp/time off
>>538427384Communism is a misguided ideology conjured at a time the silent majority still had to manually grown their own food plus fork over the surpluses that fed their social betters. It just doesn't work after mechanization took hold and the whole eschatology leading into primitive communism but with modern tech is pure cultural Christianity.
>>538427391A dune buggy and a mustang aren't assets lol. Both depreciate hard in value.
>>538427392>>538427392>Sauce?>It's common knowledgeSo you have no evidence for your claim at all. gotcha.
>>538427397Marx couldn't even predicted the early XX century, let alone now.
>>538427397>Communism is a misguided ideologyit isn't, it's just an ideology. Every ideology works if the people implementing it are good at managing. Every ideology fails if the people implementing it are bad managers. Management is pretty much the biggest determining factor as to whether or not a society fails or thrives.
>>538427400I don't think anyone can predict anything unless they're lucky or it's obvious.
>>538427400Several things he did predict, others did happen but in other unexpected ways.
>>538427396You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. >>538427398You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about>>538427399I just posted you an example of regular ass lake house and the fact that top out pay for mailmen is between $76-80k UPS pays even more, this is without and trade experience. Fucking retard
>>538427396>Translation: I'm a fucking cry baby that doesn't want to workYou can walk off the street and get a job at a random factory in Romulus, MI and make enough to afford these things. Sure you may have to work 50-55 hours a week but tough shit pussy
I love how commies aren't even trying to address the abolishment of private property, they're just crying and pretending like middle class success doesn't exist
>While visiting Norway in June 1964, Khrushchev asked why the Norwegian Communist Party got less than 5% of the vote in elections. He was told "Because many Norwegian workers already own a house and a boat."[9]
>>538427407This. I just spent yesterday celebrating the 4th and my wife's friends place. Her husband is a fabricator and she works as a receptionist. They're on 20 acres and he has 3 dirt bikes and a boat
Because Communism is ultimately the most honest ideology.
we have communists in Brazil, they're just a couple of college kids who smoke weed and have Che Guevara posters in their dorm. basically irrelevant. even Lula is just a socdem and 75% of normies are turbo chuds who worship Bolsonaro and think all homosexual will be cast into Hell when they die.
>>538427408All bought and paid for outright with no loans or credit cards?
>>538427410>and think all homosexual will be cast into Hell when they die.That's badass
>>538427407>convinced communist Lee Harvey Oswald moves to USSR and realizes hey this really sucks there's no food and nothing to do at all and you can't leave town without a pass
>>538427411Who gives a shit? How do you think boomers acquired all their wealth that you cry about?
>all those 80s rock stars like Springsteen crying that you couldn't have the same standard of living as your parents and it was all Reagan's faulti don't think from my experience that boomers necessarily had it that bad back then as long as they were gainfully employed and didn't spend everything on substance abuse.
>>538427414>they in fact did NOT own 20 acres and 3 dirt bikes and a boat
>>538427413Soviets did ok with what they had in face of embargoes and regular economic sabotage from Western intelligence agencies.
>>538427415>why does the Democrat fundraising plant rock star whine about Reagan?wonder...
>>538427416Keep telling yourself that while you sit at your mom's house. I dropped out of college and became a crane operator. I just recently paid off my 2bed/bath condo that I'm planning on selling outright so I can move into my dream home.
>>538427419You literally just said they don't own those things.
>>538427417Lmao Soviets owned the entire eastern block, but it's the damn Western spies that ruined everything for them? You fuckin idiot. Here in Detroit we all learned about the Russian 5, and how a fuckin pizza chain owner fuckin bought the USSRs most famed Olympians because their lives fuckin sucked
>>538427420>Wahhhh you're not allowed to have a loan and say you own something You are a child, and have no fucking idea how to gain wealth
>>538427420Where do you work? What do you have in equity?
>>538427422>you gain wealth by taking out loans and credit cards to spend on dirt bikes
>>538427424Yes, exactly. You gain equity and credit which overall lowers your interest rates and then after 5, 10, however many years you pay it off and either keep it forever or you sell it for bigger and better things. Like me, I'll sell off my condo which will net me an over 50% down payment on a beautiful $400,000 home where my mortgage, taxes, and insurance will be about $1,000 a month. When that's paid off I will be at retirement age where I'll either pass it down to my kids, or I will sell it, move into a condo on the water in Florida, and then pass the cash down to my kids when I die. Fucking idiot
>>538427418the Rust Belt and Midwest weren't exactly doing so well back then
>>538427425>if you don't get into debt to buy dirt bikes you're an idiot
>>538427427>I'm just going to ignore everything you said and repeat myself like a whiny little bratYour parents need to smack you in the face
>>538427427There are 17 year old highschool children paying off their first car working at a grocery store that are apparently farther off than you
>>538427429>There are 17 year old highschool children paying off their first car working at a grocery store thatis this 1971 dude? lol maybe boomers could do that but nobody born since 85.
>>538427430You can go on carvana and get a $12k car that will cost you like $3-400 a month in payments including insurance. Perhaps this won't work in Massachusetts where they have all of those left wing "protections" you fags love so much.
>>538427428>>538427429>point out that none of these people actually own the things they're bragging about >anon has a meltyThe bank owns them all anon. Miss a payment on that 400k dream house, see what happens.
>>538427430also forget sex unless it's with a 35 year old hamplanet feminist who demands a written consent form first
>>538427431>>538427430my dad was a teenager in that time and even then only rich kids got brand new wheels, the rest had a 63 Falcon they bought at a used car lot for $300
>>538427432You are a fuckin retard that clearly has absolutely nothing to their name, lmao. My grand father died young and my grandma missed payments for 2 fuckin years before they threatened anything, and then she refinanced and my Dad and uncles ended up paying everything off once they became working age.
>>538427434That's why I just mentioned Carvana you retard. https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/4452356?refSource=srp$202/month with $0 cash down. A fuckin stock boy at kroger working 20 hours a week can afford this shit.
>>538427435>grandma>dad
>>538427437Yes, the point being that she missed tons of payments and nothing bad fuckin happened dumbass. Then when she died my Dad and his 2 brothers each got $60k from the estate.
>>538427438>grandma>dadPost about walking into the factory, asking to speak to the owner and giving him a firm handshake next.
>>538427433>>538427430the 80s never ended in the South and Midwest, don't assume everything is Marin County
>>538427439There you go with more childish bratty behavior rather than actually forming an argument or an actual point. Also what that other anon asked. Where do you work?
>>538427440look bro, i'm not moving to your heckin based flyover 40,000 population town where the 15 total hot girls there all immediately get married after graduating high school and the rest are cave trolls who work at Piggly Wiggly's
>>538427441>The worst thing she can say is noDo one next
>>538427442Lmao you are fuckin SEETHING. Okay stay in your left wing state where you will never afford anything yourself. Pussy
>>538427443Huh? Come on use your big boy words
>>538427444>he says, after casually admitting the bank owns all the toys he and his friends brag about
>>538427446No, that's how it started 19 years ago. I'm almost 37 now, I own my vehicles and condo, but will take out another mortgage that will easily be paid off since I didn't spend a decade working part time and smoking weed all day.
>>538427384You got it backwards. I know several Russians from fuck out regions and every family has a dacha/vacation home out in the countryside. Does that mean that cleptocratic capitalism is good? Or maybe communism?
>>538427446Where do you work?
>>538427448See>>538427421I've got to hear it from the horses mouth how much of a shit hole the USSR was
>>538427447>but will take out another mortgage that will easily be paid off since I didn't spend a decade working part time and smoking weed all day.>>538427415one reason for the shitty 70s economy was the tune in turn on drop out mentality. lots of young people just worked casual jobs or lived on welfare and got high. it wasn't like the Depression where innocent hardworking people were blasted out of their livelihoods and did nothing to deserve it.
>>538427451Where do you work?
I just turned 30 but I already own property in California worth around $4 million. It feels good to be a NepoChad
>>538427453That's pretty cool, good for you. Don't fuck it up
This nigga is unemployed trying to make fun of a basic mortgage kek
>>538427451it was impossible for boomers to not get laid though unless they were literally deformed
>>18563573Do you understand WW2 or are you going to keep spamming posts and replies using ai like a retard
>>538427456>>18563106i mean this dude was a fucking meth dealer and high all the time and he still had a girlfriend and a sweet classic car. boomers couldn't lose no matter how much of a fuck-up they were.
>>18561270ditto this guy from the thread yesterday he had a wife and three kids
Commies absolutely obliterated itt
>>538427384Communism arises because psycopaths trick people into thinking the psycopath system is good. Then they vote for it and the psycopaths at the top enslave everyone in a pyramid system.
>>538427384This was true 30 years agoIt’s not true now.
>>538427384>Here in USA it's not uncommon for the average blue collar worker to have 2nd properties like lake houses and cottages."A 2023 survey conducted by Payroll.org highlighted that 78% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck, a 6% increase from the previous year. In other words, more than three-quarters of Americans struggle to save or invest after paying for their monthly expenses.Similarly, a 2023 Forbes Advisor survey revealed that nearly 70% of respondents either identified as living paycheck to paycheck (40%) or—even more concerning—reported that their income doesn’t even cover their standard expenses (29%)." - https://archive.ph/0G3Tx"Roughly 111 million people — 50% of Americans with a credit card and 40% of the U.S. adult population — carry credit card debt" - https://www.cbsnews.com/news/record-share-americans-cant-pay-credit-card-bills/
>>538427384So you're not a Jewish Communist, you're A Jewish Capitalist and a huntin faggotI want Straight White Non Jewish / Aryan White vegetarian co-ops, and territoriesI disagree with communism but don't like you either Neo Con Jew Anon
>>538427384>Here in USA it's not uncommon for the average blue collar worker to have 2nd properties like lake houses and cottages."While 100 million Americans have at least some medical debt, about 7.4% of U.S. residents experience catastrophic healthcare expenses annually, more than double the rate of any other developed nation. Here, medical debt is defined as experiencing problems paying or being unable to afford any medical bills in the past 12 months, including those for doctors, dentists, hospitals, therapists, medication, equipment, nursing home or home care. And the term catastrophic is defined as out-of-pocket spending exceeding 40% of a household’s income after basic necessities have been met. Further, estimates suggest that inability to afford costs of medical care contributes to at least 530,000 personal bankruptcy filings annually. Approximately two-thirds of personal bankruptcies in the U.S. are associated with medical expenses or illness-related loss of work." - https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2026/04/05/increasing-burdens-of-medical-debt-and-bankruptcy-are-uniquely-american/
>>538427384>Here in USA it's not uncommon for the average blue collar worker to have 2nd properties like lake houses and cottages.«A couple of years ago, Joseph Shrager, MD, professor of cardiothoracic surgery at Stanford School of Medicine, noticed a statistical anomaly in his practice. It seemed that patients were diagnosed with lung cancer at a surprisingly higher rate at 65 years old than, say, at 64 or 66.»«The study showed that insured cancer patients (lung, breast, colon, prostate) older than 65 are more likely to undergo surgical intervention, and they had lower five-year cancer-specific mortality rates than did their younger uninsured counterparts.»«“Collectively, these results demonstrate that Medicare eligibility, an event coincident with becoming 65 years old, is associated with a rise in early-stage cancer diagnoses and a resulting survival benefit,” the study concluded.» - [Jump in cancer diagnoses at 65 implies patients wait for Medicare, according to Stanford study (2021)](http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/03/Cancer-diagnoses-implies-patients-wait-for-Medicare.html)
>>538427384>Here in USA it's not uncommon for the average blue collar worker to have 2nd properties like lake houses and cottages."Katie Fitzgerald, Feeding America’s chief operating officer, said the network’s members are still seeing demand above pre-pandemic levels, although final numbers for this year’s first quarter aren’t yet available. Fitzgerald said she expects the food banks will collectively distribute the equivalent of 6 billion meals this year, about the same amount they gave away last year and far above the 4.2 billion meals given out in 2019.""Meals on Wheels programs that deliver food to homes were flooded with calls, while other programs also popped up to feed older adults nationwide. Meals on Wheels America said at the end of 2020 its branches nationwide were still serving on average 60% more seniors than before COVID-19." - [US hunger crisis persists, especially for kids, older adults (2021)](https://apnews.com/article/us-hunger-crisis-kids-older-adults-fce1aba64d777f4a0f2bbf18b15040c6)
>>538427384>Here in USA it's not uncommon for the average blue collar worker to have 2nd properties like lake houses and cottages.«Breast milk samples from mothers in Seattle contain alarming levels of dangerous hormone-disrupting chemicals, including BPA, BPS, melamine, cyanuric acid, and triclosan, new peer-reviewed research has found.The chemicals present a serious risk to infants because they likely interfere with hormones that are critical to newborns’ proper development, and have been found to be harmful at very low levels of exposure. About 92% of 50 samples were contaminated with at least one of the anti-microbials or plasticizers for which researchers checked.The same milk samples had previously been found to contain potentially dangerous levels of PFAS “forever chemicals” and flame retardants, which are also endocrine disruptors.» - ["Dangerous hormone-disrupting chemicals found in US breast milk samples" (2026)](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/14/breast-milk-research-chemicals)
>>538427384>Here in USA it's not uncommon for the average blue collar worker to have 2nd properties like lake houses and cottages."We estimate that at least one PFAS could be detected in about 45% of US drinking-water samples." - ["Per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) in United States tapwater: Comparison of underserved private-well and public-supply exposures and associated health implications" (2023)](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160412023003069)"Through the Summer Food Service Program (SFSP), kids of all ages can get meals and snacks during the summer at no cost at schools, parks, and other neighborhood locations. SFSP may have a different name where you live, but the benefit is the same: nutritious meals for kids and teens in the summer when school is out.Every child aged 18 and under can enjoy no-cost summer meals. Some rural communities also offer meal pick-up or delivery. Eligible school-aged children may also receive Summer EBT Benefits." - https://www.fna.usda.gov/sfsp
>>538427384I don’t care how much money any blue collar worker has, it’s embarrassing and humiliating to be a white man toiling out in the sun like some nigger.Id rather sit in a Herman miller office chair and do basically nothing for 40k.Make sure my infrastructure is running properly you fucking nigger ape and don’t you dare get in my way when I’m coming in and out of the office. Don’t you dare hold up the elevator
>>538427384These days it's under five percent.There was a time when poor people could have a house on the shore and eat "poor people food" (lobster).We're already communized.
>>538427435Your grandmother did not have anything to their name. She needed her children to bail them out because she didn't save enough.>>538427438Having to beg your kids for money is 'something bad'. I won't have to pay anything for my parents because they're good with money.
>>538427384Less then 3% of blue collar workers own a 2nd home though this information is readily available
>>538428308oh nonono don't tell the whitoids that lobster is mid. they'll have a melty over their crustaceoun slop. they have to eat the bugs.
>>538427404Will a portfolio of stocks or bonds depreciate in value? No.Will a bunch of toys depreciate in value. Yes.
>>538428563What you did a 4 second Google search of some bullshit and want to be taken seriously?
>>538428777Show me official numbers on it from. Source then
>>538428777https://www.investopedia.com/only-4-6-of-u-s-homes-are-second-homes-but-millions-are-making-it-work-11820570
>>538428814>>538428835Just look in the thread retard. It's been pointed out that a basic mailman's salary tops out around $80k and you can get a lake house for ~$100k.
>Here in USA
>>538429101That one listing isn't enough to extrapolate the percentage of blue collar workers that own a home though it's just one listing can you not form abstract though would you be a nigger by any chance?
>>538429101>>538429199The listing you posted has a square footage of a 1 bedroom apartment, and is in a trailer park. Terrible cherry picking
>>538427384Is that "Wars" by Nick Land? I've read it. Pretty good. A lot demon stuff.
