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Why does gas cost more in Russia than in gayropa when hohols took out only few measley refineries?
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>>538453780
Um
Russian gas is still cheaper than europe.
Shit for brains
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>>538453780
no-gas station country
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>>538453780
it is land war not refinery war
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>>538453780
it's funny that putin is probably been told everything is fine, and that the army is not having any problems. that the refineries will be back working again any minute now. or weren't really badly damaged.
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>>538453780

>Why would cost more?

There have to be some reason. Find out.
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>>538454192
neither
Its a drone war
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What is that in $USD / gal?
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>>538454118
135 rubles per litre is definitely not cheaper than vast majority of Europe where it's mostly tax anyway
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>>538453780
?
Call-in the Kalergi-Bigots!
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>>538453780
Its still more expensive than in here, tho.
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>>538454415
what's your current price?
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>>538454276
Eat shit lying faggot

130 Rouble = 1.5 euros
Germany: 2.2 euro/liter
Poland : 1.4 euro/liter (cheapest in.the EU).
PLUS This is a regonal issue and is not the average price in Russia. Stupid faggot
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>>538454415
What insignificant flag is that?
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>>538454614
now the average income and how long you have to work for a full tank
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>>538454276
I was in Bulgaria 3 weeks ago and gasoline there costs 1.7 euro per liter

And Bulgaria is cheapest country in european union with salary like 900 euro/month
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>>538454614
Write the average price in the US, in liters. I'll verify your information, so don't lie.

And immediately write how many people in the US earn $300 a month.
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>>538454614

Remember than average income in Russia is only 937/month....so filling car tank 60 liters cost there 1/10 of monthly wages....shithole is shithole.
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>>538454733
>300 a month
Its literally illegal to pay someone so little unless they're a waiter or some shit. I know its regular vatnik wage but we arent a subhuman golem state. Were a democratic mutt golem state. Learn the difference, it could save your life.
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>>538454614
its 1.5 in portugal and spain nigger. you do realize pension in russia is 350 dollars lol? why compare france or germany.
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>>538453780
they sell it to china for a bargain
costs picked up by russians
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>>538454999
>I know its regular vatnik wage but we arent a subhuman golem state
Ok anon, so why are you comparing the price of a daily needed resource directly then?
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>>538453780
Look comrade, the gas situation is no problem, mother Russia is giving it away!
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>>538453780
This last month has changed everything in the war
The swap from the front line to attacks on Russian infrastructure has the same feeling of iran targeting US bases in the GCC
Completely unprepaired
Mind you, not sure what you can do
Thats war for you
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>>538454219
> Herr Monke... Steinerovski could not muster enough men for the refinery repairing operation.
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>>538453780
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>>538455093

Actually right now Russia trying buy gas but no one selling because everywhere countries try saving it for own use because USA actions at Iran has stopped oil to flow.
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>OMG its so much more expensive at this one gas staton because of local issues!
>OK well its not more expensive but they make less money
Move goalposts much faggot shills?

Oh and the average price of gas in Russia is $.95/liter. Fucking lying troons.
>https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/gasoline-prices
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>>538455249

You can fix oil refinery only if you have replace parts to do so....if you don't have you wait than someone making them or buy them.
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>>538455156
yeah it seems like copied tactic by hohols from Iran to force Russians to negotiate
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>>538455364
it's July you BRICS nigger and the price hikes are kinda new thing
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>>538455411

..addition...unless the oil refinery has damaged so badly than fixing it is same level job than build new one.
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>>538455428
and they are clearly working
they arent going to stop now because Russian air defense(like any other) is simply not designed for mass drone attacks
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>>538455411
The refineries are fucked
The scale of how fucked is huge, Russia made itself dependent on western components over the last 15 years, they cant replace a lot of what they need due to sanctions now
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>>538455672
>Russia made itself dependent on western components
Fake and gay.
You faggots from discord tried this propaganda in a previous thread and were exposed as lying nafo troons.
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>>538455795
the only shill here is (You) seething and replying everyone lol
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>>538455795
oh its deluded cunt again

https://electricalengineeringmagazine.co.uk/honeywell-helps-to-improve-efficiency-and-reliability-at-russian-refinery/

>Honeywell Process Solutions (HPS) has announced that its control technology will help improve efficiency and reliability at LUKOIL’s gasoline blending facility in Kstovo, Russia.

from 2015

>https://www.offshore-technology.com/projects/moscow-oil-refinery-modernisation/?cf-view

>A new catalytic cracking and gasoline hydrotreatment unit and a light naphtha isomerisation unit were installed in 2013, which enabled all fuels produced from the refinery to meet the Euro 5 quality standard. The completion of these units marked the completion of the project’s first phase.

>The former has an annual capacity of 1.2 million tonnes and was constructed with an investment of RUB5.7bn (approximately $148.5m). It implements a technology licensed by Axens. The latter implements a technology licensed by UOP Honeywell, has a capacity of 650,000t per annum and was constructed with an investment of RUB10.9bn (approximately $284m).

2014

https://mx.advfn.com/bolsa-de-valores/NASDAQ/HON/noticias/53674199/honeywells-uop-selected-by-russias-lukoil-to-provi

>Honeywell's UOP Selected By Russia's Lukoil To Provide Technology For High-Quality Gasoline And Petrochemical Production

2012

https://www.oilandgasadvancement.com/projects/tuapse-refinery-expansion-and-upgrade-krasnodar-russia/

>Honeywell was awarded a contract by Rosneft in July 2013 to provide a single integrated production automation system Experion® Process Knowledge System (PKS) and implement process simulation software UniSim® Design Suite for the Tuapse Refinery.

I choose these articles from the period surrounding 2014 -2016 for a reason
Thats when Russia had to pivot to Euro-5 standards, they didnt have their own tech so bought into western systems and have been doing so ever since
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>>538456640
Wow you posted the same links you lied about before.
You faggots really have no shame.
Also why did you change your flag?

Honeywell 2015: they sold them some software, not parts.

Honeywell 2021: the contracts were all cancelled in 2022 due to the war, zero parts were ever delivered.

You really are the biggest disinfo piece of shit here today
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>>538454118
135 Roubles is 1.50 Euro, which is about how much it costs here, with a tendency to get lower now with low oil prices. Meanwhile in Zigeria it's going to get much more expensive.
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>>538456841
nope just one is the same, its from 2015
Same flag
>some software
That software is closed source and integral to the catalysts that are used and the whole production line, every sensor, every valve and is one of the most guarded systems in the world
>the contracts were all cancelled in 2022
By Honeywell, not Russia, these were huge projects to modernize pretty much the remaining refineries that they hadnt already put their systems in

you are truly so fucking stupid its a sight to behold
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>>538453780
perchance, i just saw this on my facebook feed

>>538454614
130 roubles seems overkill
dont take the false premise to be true

some might suspect youre secretly a nafofag for assuming OPs pic to be legit to begin with
faggot
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>>538457072
The other article says nothing about foreign made parts either you sick fucking troon.
>well the bought the licensing!
You have yet to link ONE single western part for refining sold to Russia.

You really want us to believe some 12 year old software is critical to Russia today?
You have no idea what you are talking about faggot shill.
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>>538457239
I did reverse image and it said it was one gas station due to regional issuues. Like I said the average price in Russia is $1/liter now.
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>>538457317
to be fair, i dont really care
im not going to get the truth here

is russia really threatening poland?
or is that just scaremongering by BLUFOR?
i dont really care anymore, because i wont be able to find out

im probably not going to end up at the front lines (i have sought-after skills)

its on you guys
im all for peace
but all these russophobes... when the war reaches your own doorstep
think about all those words you said
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>>538457249
you have absolutely no idea how these systems work
where the fuck do you think the pressure sensors come from
the valve sensors
the software has to calculate inputs and flow levels by automatically monitoring the feedstock quality and adjusting
The software is tied to the catalyst beds that ONLY Honeywell can make, its one of the most valuable processes in the world, the software is constantly updated, not 12 years old

Honestly, the level of stupidity you and others portray by thinking its just tanks and pipes is mindblowing
Anyone, I mean anyone, who has ever worked on a rig or in a plant knows how full of shit you are
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>>538454733
In Poland, the salary is 1,500 euros and gasoline costs less, what a pathetic country Russia is
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>>538457571
Then how come you cant prove it with all the links you got from discord?
You are a retard pulling shit out of your ass.
You left out this in your link
>The general design engineering works for the overall project are being carried out by VNIPIneft, while the main construction contractor is Promfinstroy.
Both Russian companies. So all they did was buy the licenses from the UK and the plans.
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>>538454150
https://x.com/MVVMVV5/status/2073505755462856713
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>>538457927
retard
those are the construction companies
I will take time to explain how the system works so you can put this to bed
You build a distillation tower to fraction your feedstock
The output from that goes to processing units
Merox
70-80% global share, this is the process to produce flight fuel
Honeywell owns the rights and tech that uses proprietary catalysts along with the control software that revolutionized the process and continues to do so

Penex
65% global share for Honeywell, the rest is Axens
this is the unit that takes naptha and using catalyst beds in 1 pass takes naptha to usable fuel, with additions even more
The catalysts are one of the best kept secrets not just in the Industry but in the world

There is most likely not 1 refinery worldwide that doesnt use Honeywell's tech in some shape or form
They completely cornered the market with these 2 process when the Euro-5 standard came in, not because of emissions but because they are literally the best in the world

You can verify anything I have just said with 1 simple search
You dont have the slightest clue what you are talking about, something thats been clear from the start
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those mutted rusmongols will never collapse they will eat their shit at worse and will still larp as last pure slavs
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>>538458822
You are full of shit faggot.
Russia needs zero foreign parts.
You have done nothing but lie all day.
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$6.4 a gallon btw
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>>538453780
Small price to pay for the western collapse in two weeks.
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>>538458822
The catalysts are one of the best kept secrets not just in the Industry but in the world

It took me 10 seconds to find out you are a lying faggot. Russia makes thier own catalyst beds
>SIE Neftehim, LLC is a major manufacturer of refinery catalysts in Russia, specializing in catalytic technologies for oil refining and petrochemical processes. Other key players in the Russian market include companies like Rosneft, Lukoil, and Gazprom Neft.
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>>538453780

>Meanwhile in Alaska gas dropped to $4.89 a gallon
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>>538454614
1.5€ is a lot for a liter of gas in Russia. They usually have like 0.5€ for a liter
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>>538453780
> don't ever Google gas prices in Russia from before 2022
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>get Ukraine to blow up all the refineries
>get Iran to lock down the Hormussy
>bleed the Russian economy dry
Trump is playing 4d chess
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>>538459358
Honewells are the best in the world
Thats why Russia uses them
And no-one know how they are made
Axens make them
and yes
So does SIE Neftehim but they are completely useless for all the Honeywell units and thats what everyone uses

You keep jumping from point to point thinking you have a win while ignoring the 1 simple fact
Honeywell are the world leaders for a reason
The company you are talking about only produces the catalyst, Honeywell produce the entire production system which is completely reliant on a control system that is the best in the world

Just search for who in Russia uses Honeywell products
Backs up everything I have said
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>>538459872
I just looked up catalyst beds that you claimed was a big secret and said Russia couldnt produce.
So again I caught you lying.
Thats like 4 times I caught you lying faggot
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The price wanking will be over soon because the shortages have started days ago and IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE.
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>>538460052
Do the search faggot
>How many russian refineries use Honeywell products
You wont, you just keep jumping around accuse others of lying
I said
>proprietary catalysts
because I actually know that there are a few companies that produce them
Unlike you, who thinks because he has found out for the first time in his life that more than one company produces something he only found out about within the last hour, that means everything is a lie

You didnt even know the process to produce petrol an hour ago and now you are attempting to lecture others on the market

By definition you are so stupid, you dont actually realize how stupid you are

Again, do the search retard, you are online so you can do what anyone else can do and perform a search
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>>538454118
Absolute retarded subhuman cretin russian gasoline is already 500% the price its here
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>>538453780
PUTLER THOUGHT HE COULD OUT SUFFER THE KHOKHOLS IN A WAR OF ATTRITION

FORGETTING THEY ARE SOVIETS TOO THEY ARE ALSO USED TO EATING DIRT ON THE POTATO LINES

AT THIS RATE THERE WILL BE NO REFINERIES LEFT
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>>538460463
You are a nafo troon
The lowest form of life
You keep posting links that have nothing to do with your claim of Russia needing western parts for thier refineries.
Why do you lie about your own links?

You cant provide a single source for your retarded astroturfed propaganda.
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>>538461605
I have
you havent done anything but whine
do the fucking search and post the results
>How many russian refineries use Honeywell parts or tech
Or fuck off and whine like a bitch somewhere else
absolute spineless faggot
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>>538453780
Is that what winning looks like?
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>>538461852
Then why dont you have a source?
All Honeywell tech has been sanctioned since 2022. There is no record of Honeywell sales prior to 2022.

You serious want us to believe Russia's entire oil refinery economy hinges on 14 year old software used in ONE refinery?

This narrative was invented 2 years ago and hasnt worked here yet troon shill.
Give it up.
You will never be a woman
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FUCK RUSSIAN SUBHUMANS
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>>538454697
average income in germany is like 1600
after taxes probably 1100
you're poor af
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>>538454969

your wages are like 1500 only lmao
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>>538462119
Fuck off.
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>>538462119
>There is no record of Honeywell sales prior to 2022.
oh just fuck off you absolute spastic
the most retarded thing you have said so far
It was literally headline news when they pulled out
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>>538455056
in portugal pension is like 500€ lmao
portugal is a shithole
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>>538462896

Our neet compensation is almost same level...work is hobby here.
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>>538453780
>always a memefagg
makes you think
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>>538454118
lmao why don't you pull your head outta your ass, Vasilyi.
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>>538462119
https://www.opportimes.com/en/honeywell-to-completely-pull-its-business-out-of-russia/#:~:text=For%20the%20year%20ended%20December,1%25%20of%20its%20total%20assets.

>In response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Honeywell suspended substantially all of its sales, distribution and service activities in Russia and Belarus (the Suspension).

>In June 2022, the Company approved a plan to liquidate its existing business and operations in Russia (the Liquidation).

>Then, during September and October 2022, the company completed the sale of three entities domiciled in Russia.

>For its remaining two entities, Honeywell is pursuing a voluntary liquidation strategy to completely exit its business and operations in Russia.

>The Suspension and Liquidation affects all reportable business segments, with the most significant impact on its High Performance Materials and Technologies business segment.

They had been building in Russia for years then pulled out after the war started

I not spoonfeeding you any more and you can to bitch and whine but the reality is, a simple search proves you wrong on all fronts

A search you refuse to do because you are a retard and cant stand the thought you are wrong

fuck me
to even try and suggest Honeywell wasnt doing business in Russia is beyond moronic

If you are being paid to do this shit they are paying you too much
If you are doing it for fun, you are legit retarded
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>>538463420
I caught you lying in your last 4 links so what are the odds you are stilll lying

From your link
>For the year ended December 31, 2021, sales revenues in Russia represented approximately 1% of its global revenues, and assets in Russia represented less than 1% of its total assets.
>The Suspension and Liquidation affects all reportable business segments, with the most significant impact on its High Performance Materials and Technologies business segment

This article is not about just the oil sector faggot shill. Its all thier buisnesses in Russia.
What a disingenuous piece of shit you are.
Still no link that they cant get refinery parts from the west or that they even need them.
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>>538453780
95+ is free just buy that
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This is the segment of Honeywell that had the biggest sales in Russia

>Advanced Materials
>Upon completion of the spin-off, the Advanced Materials business will be a sustainability-focused specialty chemicals and materials pure play with leading positions across fluorine products, electronic materials, industrial grade fibers, and healthcare packaging solutions. The business offers technologies that include the breakthrough low global warming Solstice hydrofluoro-olefin (HFO) technology, which has helped avoid the potential release of the equivalent of more than 326 million metric tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Additionally, the business manufactures a wide variety of high-performance specialty materials technologies ranging from Spectra, a fiber used in high-end armor technology to protect in law enforcement and military applications, to Hydranal, the most trusted brand in Karl Fischer titration, to Aclar, a high-performance pharmaceutical packaging material critical to preserving prescription drugs and keeping them safe.
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>>538454969
this.. Russia is such a laughably poor country. Their pensions are shit, too.
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A small price to pay for the military defeat they inflicted on Ukraine...

Ukraine lost 15k soldiers in Kostiantynivka, and they are refusing the bodies back...



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