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Can a nation survive if it does not establish a racial aspect to citizenship? Even if we establish a Christian Nationalist country and even if that country is filled with morally good Christian folk of all races, what would be the point of creating that nation if a race of 85 IQ dimwitted brown mutts is the eventual and inevitable result?

Can any Christian honestly answer this question?
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>>538486446
>the fate of all christian nations if they do not adopt race based citizenship
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>>538486446
answered thousands of years ago
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>>538487131
>Diest Founding Fathers
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>>538487272
Aristotle was not a Christian
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>>538486446
Absolutely, Jews however strongly disagree
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fuck christkikes. kill em all
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>>538487272
Aristotle existed before Christianity. What is the Christian answer to this question? Yes, I know that Aristotle influenced many prominent Christian thinkers, but is this the official stance of the modern Church? Are there any Christian denominations that believe in maintaining racially homogenous nations?

>>538487277
They were based, but unfortunately the United States started allowing niggers to be citizens less than 80 years later. As soon as the Founding Fathers died their nation was trampled.
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>>538486446
Singapore exists
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>>538487509
>Are there any Christian denominations that believe in maintaining racially homogenous nations?
the only ones you can find are on the ADL website
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>>538486446
Yes.

All racist countries failed. Meanwhile Rome lasted milleniums.
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>>538487272
Aristotle's nation died out in less than a century.
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>>538487543
Based.

>>538487470
Anybody who wants to kill Whites is either a jew, nigger, some other brownoid scumbag, or just a retard.

As far as I'm concerned, race comes before religion, and it would be great if White Christians and White Pagans could work together as brothers instead of seeing each other as rivals.
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>>538487458
Better a trans grandchild than a nazi subhuman.

Greatest generation understood that.
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>>538487666
>Anybody who wants to kill Whites
All humans

Wanting to kill whites is required to be human. You have no in group bias so you do not understand this.
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>>538487595
>>538487689
jew confirmed. kys kike.

Rome was a famously racist nation that for a long time only allowed Roman Citizens who could trace their lineage to the patriarchs of the founding city to take part in the political process while everyone else was a second class citizen. The second they started handing out citizenship like candy the whole thing fell apart.
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>>538487747
This is a contradiction, because if you aren't White, you aren't human. Dumbass. Try harder.
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>>538487516
>didn't read Lee Kuan Yew
He was wrongly anti-Christian, in the mode of LARPagans here that try to associate race with religion, but he knew about race.
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I dont think that the west is christian, or that the wests multiracialism is because of its (nonexistent) christianity. In fact the west steadily became more racially tolerant as it cast off its christianity. The wests multiracialism seems to follow from the atomic concepts of the citizens, consumers, capitalists, and governments. It is very reminiscent of free trade. This was the idea that anyone who refuses to let british merchants sell them stuff should be invaded. The big reason why antiracists look down with contempt on "backwards" racists is because antiracism allowed the allies to harness the entire world population and resources during the world wars. Antiracism was necessary to maintain the european colonial empires and today the global corporate structure. As china attempts to establish inroads in africa it runs into a similar problem. When it invites africans to china for training and exchange programs, which is basic diplomacy that everyone back to the romans did, chinese lower classes become infuriated at these extremely unwelcome foreigners in their midst. Thus to pursue its global ambitions the chinese government has to curtail the xenophobia of the chinese people.
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well according to your scenario you will have created a morally good society which seems like a pretty good place to live in
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>>538488033
>south america enters the chat
Yeah... uh... sorry Chief, but in order to maintain a functioning society you need an average IQ of at least 100. After that you start running into a lot of problems as we're starting to experience in the West thanks to the importation of the third world.

Simply being "morally good" just isn't good enough.

>>538487937
I don't think associating race with religion is necessarily a pagan concept. I think it naturally follows that race (or at the very least ethnicity) and religion are deeply connected since ethnicity and culture are so deeply intertwined. Since Religion is a part of cultural expression (and yes, of course religion does have influence on culture as well, but it works both ways) then it stands to reason that ethnicity and culture, and religion are all associated phenomenon. Hell, even within the same religion you have different practices between different people. The Italians, the Greeks both have their own ways of practicing Catholicism, and then even within Roman Catholicism, the Portuguese, French, and Italians all have their unique twists. Associating race and ethnicity with religion is so obvious, it's kind of surprising that Christians don't have more to say about it.
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>>538488391
>godless tries to teach theology
Yawn
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>>538488504
>coward sticks his head in the sand
very sad, many such cases.
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>>538488391
>south america enters the chat
hmm? im not sure i would call south america a continent "filled with perfectly morally good people"
OP specifically says
>even if that country is filled with morally good Christian folk
this is what im talking about. if society is filled with morally good christian people, that sounds like a decent place to live period
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Stop admitting people into the country that can't pull their own weight.
Stop admitting people into the country that are hostile to America.
Impose lifetime benefits limits on welfare. Two non-consecutive years and you are done for life.
Bar foreigners from collecting a single cent worth of benefits until they've paid in for 15 years
It's not explicitly racist but it pretty much works out that way naturally.
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>>538488651
OP also specifically says
>what would be the point of creating that nation if a race of 85 IQ dimwitted brown mutts is the eventual and inevitable result?
You can have a bunch of morally good people with the best intentions at heart and still have a failure of a nation when they're just too incompetent to accomplish anything.
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>>538488743
That's mostly fair, and yeah it probably would work out in a way that would exclude most non-Whites.
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>>538486446
>Universalist nationalism
Lmao.
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>>538489152
I mean, yeah but there's got to be some good examples of Christian Nations and race based citizenship standards BESIDES the Germans and the United States before the Jews got to it in the 1860's.
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>>538486446
The problem with Christianity is you can just say you're Christian and continue being a piece of shit. Then other people will notice you being a piece of shit while wearing a cross necklace or whatever and then blame Christianity. You can't really fake being a Jew. You absolutely cannot fake being a Muslim. "Christian Nationalism" is also somewhat paradoxical; you have to be more of one than the other and that would be bickered over constantly.
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>>538489528
How is maintaining a race based nation being a "piece of shit"? I thought Christianity supported a nation for every people?
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>>538488851
I refuse and dismiss this notion that good hearted people cannot achieve anything. I rather believe the good hearted people are held back by the evil and perverted people hiding their true intentions behind lies, jealousy and deceit.
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>>538486446
Yes. It's called Brszil
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>>538489569
Christianity is universalist and the Jews hate it. Guess who else also hate Universalism.
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>>538489824
Bro you live in Puerto Rico, who the fuck do you think you're fooling?

>>538489870
Brazil is what we're going to eventually become...
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>>538486446
Only as limited hangouts or pretty much city-states like Singapore, but it requires a level of impersonal and harsh policing which is completely incompatible with the suicidal empathy of westerners.

Therefore, it's a failed experiment in the western context.
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>>538489874
Nationalists? White people who don't want their race to go extinct? Jews do in fact hate universalism, but they promote the shit out of it for other groups of people because of it's corrosive and destructive nature.

>>538490085
>completely incompatible with the suicidal empathy of westerners
Yeah, that's true. It's why suffrage was one of the first things that jews pushed on the West after WWI.
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>>538487747
Shut your mouth dutch scum. I hope you get tortured to death.
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>>538490074
You have kidnapped our island bro, you are fooling no one.
>>538490192
Why would they go extinct? Would they suddenly lose their ability to procreate? Unitedstatians are just retarded subhuman cattle. Yes, Jews want Universalism for everyone else but themselves. They are called a tribe for a reason. I do not think it is corrosive or destructive at all. I think the problem in America is their corrupt government uses races as a scapegoat to keep their corrupt ways. Americans spend too much time thinking and arguing about foreigners while their government rob them blind and corrupt the institutions but somehow someway Americans see no problem with it and in fact some even call for the destruction of it all. Seriously I cannot even understand the depths of the retardness Americans have fallen into. Almost like they are feral beats acting instinctively instead of thinking.
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>>538487277
Just saw this. I'm sure there's more to be found, and of course there's the Naturalization Act of 1790 that made it explicit that they were interested only in a White Nation. Many other Western Anglo nations were the same like Canada and Australia having White only policies.
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>>538490489
You brownoid subhuman nigger, shut the fuck up and get genocided.
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>>538490577
Shut up feral beast. You are no better than a Jew.
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>>538490489
The biggest problem with Puerto Rico and the thing holding it back the most is the fact that it's largely inhabited by Puerto Ricans. In any case, universalism is almost universally bad. That's why Jews want other groups to adopt universalist policies. The only reason politicians are able to get away with so much bullshit is because of the presence of all the other races making it difficult to have elections based solely on the merits of their tenure in office or their policies.
See >>538487272
Aristotle literally talked about this thousands of years ago.
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>>538490738
The biggest problem with Puerto Rico is that the USA exist and wants to control and dictate everyone else in a way to have leverage over the people dictated upon not from a spirit of mutual collaboration but from a spirit of subjugation. This is why America and Americans are not Christians or benevolent people.
Universalism is not inherently bad but it is used by Capitalists and the state to cause chaos for the very purpose of keeping people fighting with themselves to rob the natives and corrupt the institutions and the populace spirit. Just because it is used as a weapon against the native does not mean it is inherently bad, it only means the people welding it as a weapon are the bad ones.
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>>538486446
Yes, because if you're truly Christian than Christ will guide you so you'll be fine.
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>>538487509
Christianity has existed since before the dawn of time



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