Is dating in your 30s really as miserable as everyone says it is?t. Scared newly single 38yr old
>>538487775Yeah it sucks ass and every girl has a kid or two by now
>>538487775>Dating in the westYou're fucked
honestly if you didn't secure a long-term partner by 18-25, it's over. the pool is too small and the odds are just not there. consider accepting that it's just not gonna happen
>>538487827My friend who is the same age says its easy as to fuck girls in their early 20s, but I reckon he would be full of shit
>>538487775He looks like a nice guy and is decent looking. He probably just needs to take more and better pics.
Literally 0.001% chances of success and you're fighting for the worst fat women with kids and tats and they're all lib.Its over just devote yourself to a hobby and goon like the rest of us.
Dating apps =/= dating Approach women IRL and your success rate will improve by at least one order of magnitude Yeh youll get shot down too but it’s worth it
>>538487775Be gay. I'm 42 and still fuck twinks. I'm not even that attractive.
>>538487882>but I reckon he would be full of shitgen z has a max age gap limit of 3 years. after that it's just socially unacceptable.
>>538487775it's the cat.
>>538487882It is easy to fuck them indeed. Not so easy to get wife material.Anyway good women weren't invented yet.
>>538487775If you didn't find anyone by 25 or earlier you are done. You lost the game of musical chairs at 25+. Not trying to offend you. I'm in the same boat and I'm 43 now. I missed that train decades ago.
>>538487846> honestly if you didn't secure a long-term partner by 18-25, it's over. the pool is too small and the odds are just not there. consider accepting that it's just not gonna happenTell me you're a loser without directly telling it. This is easily the worst thing I have ever seen even by this sites standards. >>538487882It is but you must be willing to accept rejection, face social pushback and go through lots of women which means 90%+ of men are unable to do it. If you can do that it is easy and women will respect you for it, whether they admit it or not. You cannot be one of these losers who yap about connection, shared things etc but those are guys who get settled for anyway, they are sexually almost irrelevant to women. I would go so far to say women would date an interesting cripple who lives under a bridge over a normie retard like this>>538487926> gen z has a max age gap limit of 3 years. after that it's just socially unacceptable.I knew it, literally people like you are cattle for the meetgrinder
>>538488009Americans lmfao> home of the free, brave and whatnot but scared of some retarded women
>>538488037>I knew it, literally people like you are cattle for the meetgrinderprove me wrong nigger, it's just how things are.
>>538487775Also women in general have just gotten worse. Everywhere I go, without exaggeration, at least one woman talks shit about me. I'm 6'3" and work out everyday. I'm not the best looking, but goddamn it's literally everywhere I go.>what's he doing>who is that, why is he here>ew what the fuck>pathetic little creep (said by like a 21 year old woman when I glanced at her walking by)>he looks drunk (entirely sober for several years)At this point I actually do hate women, and ignore their opinions entirely, but why is it like this?
>>538487882>>538487775For fidning a good wife you are gonna have a hard time. for casual "dating" if you are a chad it doesnt matter. if you look early 30s or late 20s it really doesnt matter. Some guys go bald and have grey hair by 30 and look like out of shape 50 year olds. some guys look early 20s until they are like 35. Again, if you are chad your age pretty much doesnt matter. a lot of women want to try a fling with an older guy and will make it a summer project or whatever phase she feels like going through.
>>538488127It is how things are for you because you are boring and women dont want to spend their limited youth on a boring guy as yourself. Almost no woman wants to settle for a guy who has all these concrete plans. And the ones who do usually dont want to either which is why if they suddenly woke up and looked 10-15 years younger again they would leave your ass too.
It is rougher but location matters. Went from banging girls in NYC in my 20s while being perpetually stoned to not finding jack shit in rural pennsylvania after cleaning up and getting a job that pays decent.
>>538487775Imagine wanting to fuck old ladies.
>>538487775>>538487827date 25 year oldsand since OP is in Australia he should just jet off to the Philippines for a wife. go to Bacolod or something, avoid Manila
>>538487827>>538487840>>538487904>>538487916>>538487921This is a reposted spam thread. Spam threads waste time and they push legitimate threads down to the bottom of the catalog. The practice is called Forum sliding.
>>538487775That's precisely when I gave it u because fuck dealing with women. I'll buy a whore if I feel the need
Not if youre gay.
criterion 1: be cutecriterion 2: don't be boring
I've found dating to be easier in my 30s compared to my 20s, but easier in this case means going on a date or two a year vs almost never.
>>538487775In your 30s your options are>triple digit roastie >single mother roastie >divorced roastie >divorced roastie with children>young roastie with a old man kink that will ruin your life the second you stop financing her instagramhave fun
>>538488193>after cleaning up and getting a job that pays decent.Wrong, you became boring. The intrinsic problem is that women dont want men who have these long-term plans as long as they see themselves having options and no matter how you look like, how rich you are or whatever the moment you give off these "I want to settle vibes" they run for the hills in a society that is fully liberated. They only want to settle when they hit the wall and at first that only with a guy above themselves too, this goes on so long until they either ultimately panic settle for a guy who is worse than them, get lucky finding an equal or increasingly never settle.
>>538488095It's not about fear, it's about access and availability. Americans are very paranoid. Especially women around men. You cannot walk up as a stranger and start asking for phone numbers. You have to use whatever networks available where they know you indirectly. Like coworkers, schoolmates, classmates, religious members, etc. The cold approach is very rare. Now add to that the unwanted diversity, fat girls, single moms tatted up women and your pickings get slimmer.
>>538487846People don't talk about this (other than hoeflation) but the number of marriageable women is objectively lower as a proportion of the population compared to 50 or 100 years ago.If you define a marriageable woman as one with fewer than 2 premarital sexual partners, who wants to have children, does not have debt, does not have tattoos, and who recognizes that she also has to put effort into the relationship, the percentage of women who meet those requirements is like 2% of the female population, while for your grandfather it was closer to 80%.You could have all your shit together. You could be tall, in shape, have a great career, and have your mind and spirit right.... but there aren't enough good women for men like you. It's fucking grim and nobody is talking about it.Don't be surprised if this thread gets deleted.
>>538487926what people say is not what they do
>>53848793232 y.o chad herebitches love cats and will use it as a conversation starterthat dude just gives off onions reddit mod vibes
>>538488285Who says you cannot do that lol
>>538487775No? In your 30s you should look no different than in your 20s. If you have trouble dating in that range the problem isn’t the age, it’s you either being uggo, autistic or both. But internet bitches love autistic.
>32>got out of 6 year relationship 4 months ago>need bobs and vagene>apps are bullshit>no girls anywherewhat do
>>538488181>you are boring and women dont want to spend their limited youth on a boring guy as yourselfprojecting quite a lot
>>538488309Even his cat dislikes him, look at the face lol
>>538488309picrel, foid messaged me about my cat the other day loli left her on read of course because she's brown
>>538487775Dating as a man in your 30's should be easier than dating in your 20's. You should be more self assured and established in your career. You should be independent and agentic in making your decisions which is like catnip to women.If you are that, then you should be fine. Just do the paint by numbers fitness thing and dress well and it should be ok as long as you're socialised and not sperging out in front of the roasties. I guess its that last part that's the problem for a lot of anons.
>>538488321Dude, you literally said it yourself. You say you want to settle, that is the worst frame imaginable. If I was a woman I wouldnt want that either
>>538487775Dating is a skill. A perishable one. At first it seems literally impossible. After a few months it's ridiculously easy. But get out of the market for a few years and you are rusty as fuck. Back to the beginning like the old NES games
>>538487775If you know how to network and socialize with people in real life you will do just fine. At 38 you should absolutely expect to be dating women with kids, though. I'm married but at least a few times a year I meet younger girls who seem so desperate for a stable man who isn't a weird faggot or dysgenic pussy. I personally know a bunch of women, divorced or just in their 30s who never started a family, they're all down bad. Dating apps just arent a substitute for being a real person. Women's sexuality is largely reactive, so you have to kind of pitch your personality to them before they feel attraction and once they do they act like a cat in heat. They fucking suck at picking dudes on dating apps too, but when a man standing in front of her makes her feel like he could father her children she grools all over him.
>>538487885without the beta cuck switch and bbc loving meme, this guy would be ok, aka, before the year 2011. He need to adapt to the idea of women having that look, as the cuck look beta guy by default in their heads.
>>538488351>not sperging out in front of the roasties.Sperging out would be an improvement for most
>>538487775Oh man youre fucked, aussie women are some of the absolute shittiest tier too. Good luck man, prob better off just leaving it alone.
>>538488221Pinays are butt ass ugly.
>>538488351i'm literally a NEET and have no issues getting women, if you have to leverage your career you are probably not attractive and will just be used and taken for a ride. i tell girls i dont work and dont even have a car and they keep talking to me.my ex would actually let me borrow her car
>>538488354>You say you want to settlerightbut by your logic then, there would be plenty of good single women in their mid-to-late 20s
>>538488313officer shart in mart and the district attorney
>>538488371>At 38 you should absolutely expect to be dating women with kids, thoughNo, you dont lol
>good womenAll women are the same, the good woman idea is a meme. It's your responsibility to keep your girl in check. Just like there are no bad dogs, only bad owners (besides shitbulls aka feminists)
>>538487775It’s not over for you bro. You can still find joy and a good partner, just probably expect to be a step dad. If you have your own kids that would be best, mixed marriages generally go better. Either way, don’t give into despair (provided this isn’t a demoralization Elgin op, in which case tongue my anus glownigger!!!)
>>538488430The real trick to dating is to give off the vibe that you dont want to settle. Then the relationship becomes sort of her idea and she will defend it even if you are much older or potentially even not conventionally attractive to in some cases a swamp monster
>>538488445This is true, the moment I hear "a good woman" I am already starting to zone out
>>538488478> step dadI always said it, conservatives are cuckolds at heart
>>538487775if he'd fix the onions beard, lose the childish look on his face, as well as dumping the cat, he'd be doing better.chicks want you to accept their cat, not the other way around.
>>538488481>give off the vibe that you dont want to settleto not be desperate? of course, desperation is inherently unattractive.I agree with you
>>538488437yes, you do. All of the people who are attractive, mentally/financially stable and have a pleasant personality get married in their early 20s, less attractive people are married in their late 20s. By 30s there is only leftovers, people who have something seriously wrong with them, the only exception are divorced women who are the rare 20% who is wasnt their fault. Anything else is going to end badly
>>538488231Based. Who is the faggot cyber security service that is shitting up my image board with these threads?
>>538488181>Almost no woman wants to settle for a guy who has all these concrete plans.???
>>538487775date younger or stay single.
>>538488423so don't date those. plenty of hot rural village girls out there, but you won't find them online
>>538488526No, the cat is actually great if you are a man that is non-committed because she can then see you could potentially have a nurturing side >>538488530You could be the greatest man in the world, if you give off the vibe that the relationship is important to you women will ruin it and drag you through the glass remainder of it. >>538488532You're a conservatard>>538488565Women in liberated societies hate men who want relationships because only a weak man would want one
>itt: various flavors of humiliation ritual to get a used, nigger-tainted cuntI will die alone, have my estate liquidated and burnt in front of a women's shelter and that's literally the best outcome. Anyone got any good DooM wad recommendations?
>>538487775How would people react if he started dating 18 year olds in Thailand/Philipines.
>>538487885This, it's not really that hard most people are just blockheads who don't put in the couple of hours of effort necessary to figure out what good pictures are and take them. Hint, look cool and popular, maybe hire a professional photographer. 90% of guys will just do the typical>me in the mirror>me with my pet>me and my mom>me doing something outdoorsy, alonelow effort garbage that radiates loser autismo energy and then wonder why even 0/10's aren't interested
>>538488492It's frustrating because guys will keep going through woman after woman then give up instead of realising they need to control their woman.
>>538488424IMO if a woman's interest is predicated on career or money or whatever, then you're looking at someone who's a mercenary or thief-in-waiting, rather than someone who wants to love
>>538488526>just abandon your pet that loves you, trusts you, and sees you as a paternal figure, all for some pussyyou are literally no better than a woman lol
>>538488603This guy gets it>>538488663Conservatives want to build stuff with a woman who only reluctantly agrees to it the moment she feels she ran out of options. If you want children just have sex with younger woman and poke a hole in the condom.
>>538488445>It's your responsibility to keep your girl in check.feminism, social media, and the legal system makes this impossible
>>538488663controlling your woman is illegal, just ask your local district attorney
>>538488623not in my neck of the woods. around here its more of a "he cares about [insert random wild animals]" that gets play. birds are always a hit in california. theres lots of cat having basedboys around here that get no play whatsoever, fwiw.i accept your take in the context of germany, though, as i have no evidence to dismiss it.
>>538487775it really depends on you and your mindset. see below.>>538487846bullshit. you just need to realize that all the roasties complaining about you dating a girl 10-15 years younger than you in your 30s and 40s doesn't make you "a pedo". Being 38 and dating a 21 year old is based and the only people who are going to have a problem are the usual suspects (older women, simps, and white knights). any guy who complains is just sour grapes and/or trying to fuck the harpies who are screeching at you.>>538487882it is easy, even domestically. you just need to re-learn the game and have your own confidence. in reality you have an even better shot for several reasons:>have your own car, probably a nicer car than guys her age (18-24)>have your own place>have a job that's probably not working as a bagger at the grocery store>have knowledge and experience that makes you seem attractive>have hobbies and know what you like and don't like>are not completely söy'd out of your broccoli headits really up to you to act and make the move. i will say you will have better luck abroad but that comes with a host of other complications if you are looking for a serious partner (doing again, the key is get girls early, ideally right before they go to college or in the early years. because if they do manage to do the 4 years of college there's a good chance they're going to be absolutely damaged goods after the cock carousel and debauchery called "freedom".now if you just want to fuck college girls and don't care about dating/marrying seriously, then it's even easier mentally just wear a rubber.
idk for me I was a virgin til 29 and now I'm fucking 2 possibly 3 different women now. mostly non-white though. I won't pretend I'm a pussy slayer but I've had a lot more luck on dating apps. just pure luck out of nowhere. unfortunately I squandered my chances with the really impatient white women who I thought would've made good wives but in reality they left me as soon as I was down.Women don't want a partner, they want daddy. I learned that. I also learned that you need a woman who is actually feminine and submissive, and you will just become smooth and masculine naturally. It's a duality. My confidence with my asian girl is through the roof because she isn't constantly shittesting me, she just lets me take the lead and doesn't try to upstage me.
>>538488289>as one with fewer than 2 premarital sexual partners, who wants to have children, does not have debt, does not have tattoos, and who recognizes that she also has to put effort into the relationship>2% of the female populationI don't know what age bracket you might be considering but in any case those criteria would be.5% or less
>>538488231so what, then let's hijack it and spread useful information to remaining few human males that actually venture here.the fastest way to get a thread 404'd is to post redpilled info about dating women younger than you and being unashamed about it.
>>538487775Only if you're retarded and go for a similar age range.No one wants 30+ women. You don't either. If she's legal then she's a target.
>>538487775seeking.comClassier.Some are older than their stated age.secretbenefits.comvery young (18)dumb and easily manipulated
>>538488714> local district attorneyHis wife is probably cheating on that dork. State attorney is the typical stable kind of job a woman would aim for in a man the moment she hit the wall>>538488744Any animal is good, you want to be the emotionally distant man who has a deeper side to himself, a nurturing side she can bring out in you (if she does succeed in doing that she will leave or henpick you like all the other simps out there, you then lost your mojo)
>>538487775Not if you're established. If you have a job, house, car, or money to spend then you should be able to attract some women. Zoomer men are easy to compete with.Don't be expecting virgins though. At your age everyone you'll have access to will have some kind of baggage.
>>538488629>Anyone got any good DooM wad recommendations?https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/sunlust
>>538488547 israelis or indians >>538488779Do it. go for it. that's a good plan
>>538487775I’m 32 and make more than most. Chicks don’t see me like that at all It’s basically like playing on Legendary difficulty
>>538487775>look like that>"I don't understand why I get zero matches"0/10
>>538488745>Being 38 and dating a 21 year oldA 38 year old boomer has nothing in common with a 21 year old, you fucking weirdo. Everyone outside of 4chan thinks you're a creep. Public perception on age gaps is shifting. This isn't the 2000s anymore.
>>538488681well, i never instructed him to, per se; but, interest balancing comes into play. if he wants to be seen by women in a better light, being a catboy doesnt help, in fact it hinders.that said, the cat is so much less trouble, yet loves you about as much as a woman would, which is itself food for thought.he's gotta do what he thinks is right for him, and i only speak from experience.>t. 14 yrs. married
>>538488181how to not be boring?
>>538488231Sliding what, you dumbass nigger? This board hasn't been relevant for a decade.
>>53848777540 next month here. Dating just sucks now in general and has since about 2010. I broke up with my fiance after she cheated on me in 2013 and never found another real relationship. >>538487882I think he's right. I've been taking some community college classes to learn new job skills and the 18-23 year old girls in them flirt with me quite a bit. I'm a decent-looking and funny guy but overweight and kind of a dork too. >>538488193This is true, but my version went the opposite way. Spent a decade in LA basically getting nothing and then moved to a small outdoorsy city in the PNW and the average woman here is way hotter, and yet I get way more attention from them, I've had pretty damn decent ones come on really strong in bars etc. but I've always been way too drunk to navigate that situation. Dating sites here are a wasteland though, I gotta get out more because I think if I went to a good bar every weekend for a month I'd probably get laid at least once.
>>5384879164 - 2 =2 easy
I have seen this thread reposted multiple times over the last 4 years.>newly single 38yoBut you said that 4 years ago
>>538488886men have nothing in common with women anyway
>>538488886no one asked reddit's permission
>>538488796No, never target younger women online on dating sites. You have to do it irl because younger women looking for older men are reverse predators or fetishists who are crazyA surprisingly large amount of women will date much, much older men they meet during daily activities even if on her dating filter she will be very restrictive. Women dont have a type if they can be brought to like you before they find out your age they wont care and if you meet her irl her friends cant call you a predator without you being able to simply claim they're incels>>538488886Incel take. Men shaming other men over this will always look like incels (because that is at their core what they are)>>538488893You just need to live an active lifestyle and not drool over her, never work on the relationship and simply drag her out to places, if she refuses call her a bore, women hate being called that but then they come out
>>538488161They’ve become more demanding, yet at the same time, they complain that men don’t approach them anymore.
>>538488821>you want to be the emotionally distant man who has a deeper side to himself, a nurturing side she can bring out in youthis is where the kernel of perfect truth lies.like i said, its only personal experiences that lead me to denying house cats.in my area, cats are for outward softies that love getting financially cucked by an animal that doesnt care about them. theres a lesson hidden in there about the women in my local area, if youre keen enough.
>>538488759>Women don't want a partner, they want daddy. this is mostly true, but it's not necessarily a bad thing if they hold up their end of the bargain.what you are saying is women want to be taken care of financially which is actually trad. the issue most men have is that women do not hold up their end of the trad bargain.it's actually a bit of both, where incels who don't even have pewter to dig call every girl who wants to be treated once and a while a "gold digger". if you're a man of value and success, you know how to filter them or will learn very quickly. if you're a man who can barely support himself, you're just gonna seethe that every woman is evil because none want you. work on yourself and women will be much easier.my wife is 10+ years younger than me and has never worked other than internship she did in university. i was her first and only cock. i spoil her because she's sweet, loving, loyal, and keeps herself attractive for me. i can literally fuck her anytime i want aside when she's on the rag. even still she'll blow me or give me a handjob or footjob if i ask. she cooks and does her share of the housework.virginity is a big deal, more than people want to admit. i think there's something biologically wired for females and pair bonding with it. my wife is clingy but not annoying, it's cute in her way because i always feel that she loves me. anytime i read or see crazy shit that people deal with in a relationship (or think back to my past ones) i always feel lucky i don't have to deal with that.but it's not luck. it's conscious choice. a lot of men will settle out of ease of low quality pus because they don't wanna play the game at all or feel they can't do better. it's sad really.
>>538487775meh, if you dont get matches you're a fucking homosexual retard.I'm 40 and got on bumble and got like 20 matches over the weekend.I just unmatched them all because I fucking cant be assed to spend any energy on a woman. especially not when they're 40 and only mid-attractiveso getting matches isnt a problem - everything that comes after is
>>538488929Your post is also a common spam theme (well poisoning): "Everyone left. Lets go to Facebook or Bluesky"
>>538487775I left my last girl at 28 and got an amazing wife at 31.It’s not that bad but I was only 31
>>538488231amusing that I was correct when I thought I had seen these dumb threads since 2022.
>>538487775Why would it be any worse than dating in your 20s?
>>538488892personally i've only ever gotten compliments about my cat, i have a highlight on my instagram with like 50 different pictures and videos of himcats are cute and having one just shows you are capable of caring for something.the issue is that he is just very average and boring looking, overweight, huge forehead, glasses dont help, and greying hair.he also clearly put the cat on his shoulder for the picture, there is simply not an iota of personality coming from this dude, i get bored looking at him too.
>>538487775No its fine, I got laid all the time in my 30s, just gont date anyone older than 28, and preferably keep it 18 - 24
>>538488779You're so fucking stupid
>>538489002Women dont want perfect men, they want a guy who is problematic but once they succeed in changing the man she will move on to a guy who is what you used to be. Let them complain, let them seethe, as long as you're interesting and not a simp she wont leave provided you're not so bad she wont need a witness protection program. Shockingly, even that is better than being a boring guy who wants a relationship. Women hate relationships they themselves didnt come up with because then it looks like settling to them and they dont want to do that.
>>538488661I literally did this lol and I got matches. Maybe I don't look like a bearded faggot who likes taking it up the ass?why would you spend any real effort on your dating profilemy bio text literally reads:>hikekI'd love to make a foid account and look at what kind of shit the other guys put up there.
>>538487775hit up the girls you dated in high school and hope one is single.or hit up the girls in high school now and end up on one of those predator shows.
>>538489032Answer his question, you mentally ill retard.What relevance does this board have in the big 26?
>>538489077>the issue is that he is just very average and boring looking, overweight, huge forehead, glasses dont help, and greying hair.id accept that. occams razor and what not.>there is simply not an iota of personality coming from this dude, i get bored looking at himthis too
>>538489119>hit up the girls you dated in high school and hope one is single.Worst strategy imaginable, women will see you as a total settling option. You will have as much sex post marriage as you do now if you do that.
>>538488371>but when a man standing in front of her makes her feel like he could father her children she grools all over him.It happened to me. The girl was so impressed when she saw me that she didn't have the nerve to speak to me; instead, she got her mom to tell my mom to tell me she was interested. The thing is, I thought she was ugly. It’s always like that—either she’s ugly, short, or fat. I don't know why they think they can land a tall, attractive guy like me.
>>538488796nope. do not do it. the quality of women there is going to be absolutely horrible. you're gonna get one of three categories:>a single mom>an ugly girl who finds simps>a young girl who's already got a body count in high double digitsand that's basically the order of expectations and delusion from low to high.i knew a relatively average guy who was a frequent on those sites. what we'd now call a "tech bro" who was making good money in his first real job and had limited experience with women. we worked together and he was always on snapchat and bragging about banging some girl every other week.we'd razz him and ask him for a pic to see what she looked like, the way he sounded you'd think she was cheerleader material or at least a fit young girl. nope, absolute "thiccc" girl who had pancake tits and always made sure to take as many "good face angle" shots like it was Myspace.found out he was paying her something like $200/mo for a couple fucks here and there. know why he stopped? not because she was a hambeast or that we mocked him, she admitted there was another guy paying her more in between.
>>538489101youre preaching there. i know a girl that is a randalekobold, and youre hitting the nail on the head, for her and a similar subset of women.
>>538488886what the fuck do you want to have in common with a woman? are you a virgin and never had any relationship? or did the micro plastics get your balls so you actually find women things interesting?also fucking 21yo pussy? I guess I don't give a flying fuck what hags and basedcells think about that while my dick penetrates her lol
>>538489144Both of you make that rhetorical observation while BEING HERE TO MAKE IT.
>>538488829based, thanks anon. It's been on by backlog for a while. I'm going to attack it tomorrow.
>>538487775It absolutely sucks because people live in their own heads powered by social media posturing and coping.
Go to Asia and find true happiness.
I have gotten divorced myself, the moment we had children I gradually become less cool, cared more for the relationship. It ended the relationship. In the past that didnt happen, but the more money a woman makes, the more reluctant they become to a guy who clings. The bizarre thing is I am actually much better of a mate than she is because I am extroverted and active while she never was. Still, my male responsibility and devotion to do the right thing torpedoed our relationship. Ironically she wanted to get back together post divorce once I started dating younger women. Anyone still thinking relationships work on equality will either live like a henpicked fool for the remainder of his life or get divorced. It depends on the woman what route she goes but you will never be happy again for the forseeable future if you do this.
>>538487775Rectangle glasses look bad on almost everyone.Rectangle, no rim look bad on every oneTight sides is a haircut for athletes without fat making the lower half of their head wider than the hair on the sides(ai whiter teeth, though nonamericans might not care.)
That's right my fellow whites. Dating is horrible. You have no chance. Just give up. Do nothing. Don't even try.
>>538489234lol, thisas a man if you have a lot in common with a woman i have some bad news for youmen and women might as well be two completely different speciesnot even literal trannies have much in common with women, they tend to have completely different hobbies and interests even while they try to LARP as a woman
>>538488289>2 premarital sexual partnersforget that, she needs not to be insane or addicted to drifting
>>538488990>Women dont have a type if they can be brought to like you before they find out your age they wont careThis is basically what I've seen too. Girl flirts with me, finds out I'm almost 40, goes "what the fuck I thought you were like 26" but then continues flirting with me. I've got another year left of classes though and really don't want to spend it as the 40 year old who creeped on a 21 year old though so I haven't made a move, plus they all apparently have boyfriends anyway. That said there's a girl who just turned 18 and is smoking hot, and follows me around like a puppy when we have classes together, and her high school sweetheart BF just shipped out to the Marines so that relationship's probably not long for this world and if I find out it's over I'm gonna have a hard time not shooting my shot for that barely legal pussy.
>>538489020>the issue most men have is that women do not hold up their end of the trad bargain.I agree.But the REAL problem, is that a lot of men CAN'T hold up their end of the bargain.I'd rather take care of a lazy-ass wife and at least be able to afford my own home, than be DINKing it up with a woman so that we're both tired as fuck after work.Most men are not financially viable for marriage.I'm making average salary and I lost 2 relationships over being laid off or just not being able to buy even a small house despite living with my parents and saving.>if you're a man who can barely support himself, you're just gonna seethe that every woman is evil because none want you. work on yourself and women will be much easier.I mean that's the thing, I have a woman right now who wants me physically. She gets horny every time I touch her. She's fucked other men before, but she isn't pushing for us to move in together or even to have a relationship, she just loves going on dates with me, she treats me well, she is so grateful. I honestly fucking hate white women for just wanting money. I want to be trad and provide for a woman, but I don't want that to be the basis of our relationship. She needs to be attracted to me first, or else when I have a bad stretch, she's gonna leave, and I'm not working my ass off for someone like that. In fact I'm not even sure I want something long-term with the asian woman, but the fact she treats me so well makes me want to simp for her even harder, to "make up" for well I treated my exes who just wanted betabucks.
>>538489217I used to be cool, got relationshipgoggles, turned into a conservativecuck, relationship fell apart, then became cool again slowly understanding why it happened. Now I am dating a younger woman but dont give any relationship promises or make attempts to build anything anymore. Luckily my ex wife makes a lot of money so I financially never lost much. Still, it is a shocking experience. Women dont function like us at all, they run on the internal strength of the man and once they drain it, your in for a lifetime of misery. Even a guy who is the absolute worst by our male understanding will outdo a guy who wants a relationship as that is weakness in the modern context.
>>538487775You people have the time to date?I work full time and am too exhausted to chase or do any of that shit anymore. I just want to relax when the hard shit of my day is done. If that means I stay single so be it.
>>538487882if he's in the right place he's not
>>538488949you need to realize that a lot of your own shortcomings are in your head. i have seen "fat" guys slay pussy that makes my head spin. and no they aren't all rich or something like that.you need to start by getting your general appearance together. not because women want you to be Aquaman, but you have to look like you bathe, shave, and your clothes aren't some frumpy old man or forever child with cringe Pokemon tees. the best way I can describe a good general look if you don't have style, is "Charleston casual". a bit preppy but not overly dressy or "vacation-y" (don't do the boomer hawaiian shirts).if you have hair, style it. if you don't or you are balding, commit to the bald and shave it. you can't have this nomands land bullshit going on desperately trying to hold on to your hairline like it's a ww2 trench battle.once you do this you will begin to feel better about yourself, get compliments maybe, and this will feed your own confidence to act. a nice looking watch (doesn't have to be expensive, just get a $100 Seiko) and good smelling cologne go a longg way.after that you just have to practice your game and get over yourself. stop being afraid to make conversation with girls, have a system to get their name/number and make plans, and then follow up. this must be in person, go to the mall, coffee shop, etc. hit on the girl working at the grocery check out, whatever it is. think about where young girls work, especially now during the summer.forget ANYTHING online and trust me girls respect that a lot.
>>538487885nah, he looks like a boring nerd
>>538487775Dont get any more fatter than you are.If you have youre own place and car youll probably be fine.Youll probably start developing some new fetishes.This is all dependant on time though.How long was the relationship? And how long were you between relationships.If it took you years to hook up with a gf, i have bad news for you.
>>538488949Live in LA and think you can compete with a 24yo Bro with a GT3 RS?
>>538488886>Everyone outside of 4chan thinks you're a creep. Public perception on age gaps is shifting.If you care about the opinions of others that stand in the way of what you want, you’ve already lost.
>>538487775Just date college girls and its fine
>>538489350You have to learn to simply put yourself first and do what is good for you. Modern society only allows people who are mentally ill to thrive. You have to kind of become one of them in a controlled sense where you shed all social programming just following self-interest. Otherwise your life will suck. This is true for both economic and sexual success
>>538487775All hinges on whether you have money.
>>538487775Everyone is fucked now
>>538487846This is the truth and it makes pol seethe. These are now middle aged men still coping that>they can still start their life one dayor>they never wanted a happy family life anywayIt would be sad if it wasn't so funny knowing these chopped uncs are suffering every single day. LOL
>>538489290>I have gotten divorced myself, the moment we had children I gradually become less cool, cared more for the relationship. It ended the relationshipsame here brodumb bitch started yapping all "you changed, why dont you desire me?" while I was like "bitch we just got a kid maybe accept not being the center of the universe for a few months and let's be a family?"whore started cheating lol while I was trying to be hubby and take care of the kid etcthe relationship went absolutely great as long as I didn't care too much about her, went out drinking, forgot anniversaries, etcbut as soon as I became a responsible husband/father she lost all the attractionwomen are retarded because all she was talking about the years before was how she wanted to start a family and have kids and shit lol
>>538487775Dating in your early 30s sucksBut your late 30s and early 40s is peak DILF years. Get ready to defend your seed from all the thirsty zoomettes.
>>538487916this, online is fantasy world with real pics, when you're in here face she has to wake up a bit
>>538488886this is a retarded take, the fact you're calling someone under 40 a boomer is hilarious. at this point i'd consider it a compliment because being a zoomer or gen alpha surely isn't.public perception on age gaps IS shifting, and not in the way you think it is. more and more women realize that older men are attractive to them and are unafraid to pursue it (or rather, be pursued). i have reached the point in my life where i literally do not give a fuck when it comes to conversation and i just say or ask it (in an elegant way).i make conversation with people all the time, when i'm in the checkout line and i intentionally would pick the one with the cutest girl working that day. i'd start with the usually greetings, and then ask "how old do you think I am" and then when they say 25 (I'm 40) and act surprised, I'd follow it up with a smile and "what's the oldest you'd date" and they just laugh and say idk i guess late 30s. they always say it depends on how he looks.i have seen countless girls online openly talk about "DILFs" and guys with visible grey hairs being "hot". you're not fooling anyone. and it makes total sense, think about asking any female LOTR fan who is their favorite male character. they are going to say Aragorn not Legolas unless they are <18. why do you think that is? that they prefer the gruff masculine defender versus the femboy elf.
>ive seen fat, old, ugly, poor guys who are balding and 5'3 slay pussy broWhere the fuck do you people see that? Ive never seen this shit but somehow 80% of the internet knows a guy who is a cross between Warwick Davis and the elephant man who has fucked 300 supermodels. Its like the millionaire welder somehow everybody knows one, but he never has a name or face and you will never meet him yourself.
>>538489507so why are you putting down your own demographic? humiliation fetish?
>>538489323I knew one girl ever that I had a ton in common with. She was easily 130 IQ minimum (I feel that I can say that with some confidence because I'm confirmed 145+ by redundant professional testing, and she's the only woman I ever know that didn't seem stupid to me) and definitely some kind of high functioning autistic but it meant she was into a lot of the "masculine" and nerdy stuff I enjoy (she loved tools and wrenching on stuff, guns, vidya and anime, she was a pretty accomplished rock/punk guitarist, etc.) while also being an incredibly cute and hot girl with a very 4chan sense of humor. Sadly she developed schizophrenia in her early 30s, legit psych prescriptions turned to drug abuse, and she ended up ODing and dying a few years ago. Greatest tragedy in my life.
>>538489543Why are you replying to this thread?
>>538489589>stating reality for what it is is putting others downhow much of a fucking pussy are you? life is sink or swim, if you lost then you just fucking lost.
>>538488161Same here. Tall, but ugly.It's literally just face to women, height doesnt even matter. Plus if you are rich. Remember this guy is like 5'7. All it took for women to write petitions to get him out of prison was this mugshot. No body displayed, only face.
>>538489445>Live in LA and think you can compete with a 24yo Bro with a GT3 RS?Yes, easily. If he wants that relationship and I dont, he is going to lose and probably ending up crying in a tiktok clip how he got cucked by a guy twice his age.> how could this happen to me, I got everything, she is supposed to be with me, this should be illegalWomen are not rational and provided you're not a total fuckup she is always going for the guy who wants a relationship less. For older guys the main problem is that they eventually want a relationship. This is why you often see guys who already have children outperform. They already got the children so they dont feel the need to build that relationship, the younger women see that and see you as immensely mentally strong compared to men their age, other older men and also see you have successfully reproduced. Redpill people will say it is about preselection but really it is about the fact these guys dont want a relationship. Women only want to give things to men who dont need them>>538489534I was the one who cheated but instead of doubling down I excused myself for it, making things worse. Knowing what I now do I shouldve said "yeah I did cheat, somebody has to meet my desires and if you dont someone else will". Instead I totally broke apart, bought her expensive dinners, clothing and she wanted a divorce like a couple months later.Game over
>>538489610let's hear what a Winner you are
>>538489191>a single momIt's the first question I ask them. No point in lying, but usually they disclose it immediately.>an ugly girl who finds simpsGirls know they're hot when they post there. I only pick cute ones. Again, if her pic is fake I'll notice on the initial meetup and immediately leave.>a young girl who's already got a body count in high double digitsOdds are an 18-20 year old hasn't haf time to have an astronomical count.
>>538489639Looks dont matter to all women, it simply became popular because some women are into looks and losers push through the door of everything that they think gets them laid all at once. Hence all these looksmaxers now as previously were the bodybuilders. These niches then get overcrowded and due to them having never learned how to actually deal with women they eventually overwhelmingly all become blackpillers.
>>538489445It was very clear that I couldn't, and I gave up after a few years. Even growing up there, almost all of the women I dated were from somewhere else and most didn't even live in LA.
>>538489259"remember, you're here forever" means something different to you, apparently.Having a melty over a spam thread instead of filtering it out and moving on and pretending they're trying to stop a narrative is peak retardation.
>>538487775>Any ideas?How about not taking a faggy pic with your faggy cat in your shitty apartment full of faggy little dolls.Also, trim your faggot beard and get rid of the faggot glasses and the $7 poly blend t-shirt.
>>538489661>he thinks its personal
>>538487775>any ideas?Yeah, lose the cat, FAGGOT
>>538489714you're just depressed, man
>>538488532Are you from some rural shithole? All the ugly dead beats got married before 25, while all the finance, lawyers, and doctors i know were married by there late 20s at the earliest.
>>538489727what's with all the people on 4chan these days with cat derangement syndrome?
>>538488629>Anyone got any good DooM wad recommendations?The pink valley, first wad in DECADES that make me suffer hard
>>538489091sorry jew, your tactic isn't working>>538489117having good photos DOES help a lot but I'd argue that online isn't the place to be. we also had a cute female coworker pose with a single guy coworker at the local lunch spot and he used it as one of his photos.. it really boosted him. confirmation bias is very real.>>538489277i also recommend this but i do admit it is more work for a variety of reasons that not everyone is prepared to do for marriage / green card / citizenship stuff.>>538489365i agree which is why every man needs to focus on himself and his own success. if you chase women you will go broke, if you chase money you will have women tripping over themselves (and good ones too).the ultimate redpill that most men are not ready to accept is that they are the keeper of their own destiny. that is what it means to be male. you have agency, ambition, and power to shape your life. women really have little agency and you can tell by how they always break down and refuse accountability.so if you want a certain lifestyle, you need to create the conditions for it (your own independence, stability, success) and then gatekeep it from women who are not worthy of it. there will always be temptation, i have been there. girls you know you shouldn't go after or chase but they have that little something that makes you wild.>>538489350don't go by what a woman says, go by what she does. when she says that just play along. and you think her boyfriend has shit on you? if you're not a complete failure you should have your own place/car that you can invite her over and fuck her and make a little meal for her. do that and her boyfriend can't compare. then you tell her "next time i want to see you cook for me". stop worrying about what other people think, there's nothing wrong with being attracted to and chasing college aged women.>>538489543this. i'm happily married now but i had planned to basically take the eternal fling route. if you want kids...
People here have to understand though, what I am saying here is easier said than done. Once you have children on the line its not so easy anymore to not make disgusting compromises. Your inner biology will heavily push you towards it. I believe the real strategy to overcome this is to invest less in children overall and simply have more of them. People will call me nigger for this, and yes it is their tactic unknowingly, but the issue is you will never get a prime woman, especially not at an older age, if you want to build things with a woman. Maybe if you are some rich mans son and she is a golddigger or some other transactional thing but you could do that at any age. I am talking about truely a woman who is into you. You can have that at any age but for it you must forsake the idea of marriage or committed long-term relationships. The whole > its just your turn thing is something you must accept. The only way to keep her is to not need her, if you put a ring on her she most likely will leave you because she will grind away gradually the man she fell for.
>>538488202Dont have to brother. Fucked 35 year olds in high school now im in my 30s fucking 55 year olds. Its even better they all have money.
>>538487775He looks like insufferable liberal basedboy
>>538489776I am, I know it's possible to make it in life but I don't think it's worth suffering all day everyday just to maybe get it someday with a time limit. I just don't want to play this game anymore bud. Yet I am beholden to the people around me to "stick around" for what? I don't want to play this game of life anymore yet people will feel sad if I go. So it's just a waiting game for my parents to pass away so that I can just shoot myself in the head.
>>538489451>This is true for both economic and sexual successberry trueIf I mentally ill'd and bought stocks in march when the market was dumping, I would have made like 800kInstead I was dca'ing stocks into dips recently and am now down.Logic and reason has no place in the economy, you have to be literally insane.
>>538489643>Yes, easily. If he wants that relationship and I dont, he is going to lose and probably ending up crying in a tiktok clip how he got cucked by a guy twice his age.You don't understand women in LA. Hardly anybody white is from there, those of us who are mostly leave as soon as they can, and so what's left in LA is obese goblinas, dead-end druggies, and vapid white women who moved there with dreams of marrying a chad with a porsche etc. and a complete unwillingness to compromise. Even if they DO want you, finding one you'd actually want is damn near impossible anyway. Incidentally, that's why WMAF is so common there, they're the only women a normal white guy can get there who are attractive and have decent personalities and their shit together. I regret not just pursuing that while I was there.
>>538489290>Still, my male responsibility and devotion to do the right thing torpedoed our relationship.>>538489643>I was the one who cheated>Instead I totally broke apart, bought her expensive dinners, clothingI think it may have been you cheating on your wife that caused the relationship to end, not your devotion to doing the right thing.
>>538489350>plus they all apparently have boyfriends anyway.this was the case when I was in college 10 years ago but it was never actually true, women just say this shit so guys won't hit on them and then get mad at you for staying away.
>>538489592>Sadly she developed schizophrenia in her early 30s, legit psych prescriptions turned to drug abuse, and she ended up ODing and dying a few years ago. Greatest tragedy in my life.
>>538489376just enough energy for a weekend sad wank
>>538489304That>Where's my prize?smile
>>538489928California is one crazy country
>>538489423he would set up your Linux Plex server before you even knew what the fuck was happening
like 99% of rich girls are on pills that make them dry and can't cum. Y'all can get infinite illegal immigrant pussy and they have the best of the best trust
>>538489702This is his GF. He has a 4 million dollar place in Encino.
>>538488955>t. the waiter That meme was the birth of the 30 year old boomer. It turned out to be a highly coordinated effort by Jews to subtly advertise Monster energy drinks. It was very successful. People did not recognize it as advertised and identified with board culture enough that they made Monster a part of their identity as well. Not that nobody was drinking Monster by then, but but really, helped cement it as the energy drink of choice for people.
>>53848777538 here and I've given up on dating. Every woman I interact with under 45 seems pissed off by my very existence. Hell, I'd settle for a friend or two that share my interests at this point. Having nowhere to go and no one to hang out with suuucks.
>>538487775you need to approach people in person. to a woman online dating seems weak and unimpressive.
>>538487775Are you poor?
>>538489909Marriage only works if women know you could simply go to church or the Imam or whatever and get a new, younger woman from the wifestore. If that doesnt exist anymore and you tie yourself, limit yourself to one woman, she is going to pry your skin off layer by layer till nothing of what she used to be into is left. This isnt about objective value or smv as the kids call it now, it is about your perceived leverage and willingness to leave. If that isnt there you lose. And with the way legal marriage is now, if you have children too most men wont do that. Men are builders and fixers but women dont want men who have the need to do that.Since it is wholly unrealistic to atm return to such a society the only real applicable way to live now is to produce illegitimate children outside of marriage.>>538489877Congrats, youre the worst guy itt now>>538489934You're an idiot conservacuck. I did the wrong thing not by cheating, she deserved that actually for failing as a wife, but my reaction of simping to fix things ruined it.>>538489928I live in a super liberal city full of gaylords and still am dating a woman 23 years my junior. Dont even have a Porsche, just a Land Rover Evoque. Not sugardaddy gaming either, the most I pay for is food and once she needed it I paid for a 300-400 Euro mutliple dental filling thing only because she didnt want to get it done.
You're way past having kids age. I had my first at 35 and I feel like that's 7years too late. You're fucked.
>>538489993you're giving me jellyfin flashbacks. what a pile of shit.>>538490024bogged prostitute. what a catch.
>>538487926The movie Idiocracy from 2005 is set 500 years in the future, but in reality they were predicting Gen Z.
>>538489831>don't go by what a woman says, go by what she does. when she says that just play along. and you think her boyfriend has shit on you? if you're not a complete failure you should have your own place/car that you can invite her over and fuck her and make a little meal for her. do that and her boyfriend can't compare. then you tell her "next time i want to see you cook for me". stop worrying about what other people think, there's nothing wrong with being attracted to and chasing college aged women.I have a nice truck and for that matter a motorcycle too. I don't have my own place right now though, it's a high CoL area and there's no way I can afford to have my own place while going to school, so I'm living with my folks and that's a big part of why I'm not pursuing anything. I'd rather go after the many tourist girls who've got hotel rooms to go back to and are looking for a no strings attached thing for now. Also, honestly, these girls are cute and hot but I can't see myself having a real relationship with them and I'm not sure how I'd deal with it if they wanted that after hooking up.
>>538488886Just admit that you're ugly and broke dude. Women have always loved older guys
After a literal decade of neeting I met my gf last year (32, she's 24). I didn't realize how insane single 30+ women are because I never interacted with them until trying dating apps, everyone I know personally has been in long term relationships for years. You have to find someone younger, set age range to 18-24 and find a zoomy
>>538487775hes average and boring. wont fly on the net. he can find a woman somewhere outside. op is a faggot though.
>>538490133for the honeymoon period those 30yrd olds really put on a show to behold. Not hard to make them the bad guy and take clean exit after.
>>538489835if you marry an unworthy used up piece of street meat, yeah, this will likely happen to you.if you marry a virgin, the chances of this happening are much much lower. i think it's a combination of pair bonding, you being able to set the relationship better without her past baggage and bullshit.i used to think people who married their highschool sweetheart were retarded, but maybe now its more based than i thought. i'd have to look up divorce rates on that compared to people who marry later after many relationships, but i wouldn't be surprised if the former was lower.>b-but it's just them staying in an unhappy marriagethat's cope. it's like suggesting that everyone who is married is somehow unhappy and doesn't want to admit it. happy marriages do exist obviously.what i have learned is that dating a woman is basically like build-a-bitch. what you do, how you define the boundaries, and what you will tolerate or not must be done early on. it is MUCH harder to change later when the routine is set. for example, if you always act like a little bitch and change your opinion to match hers, she will lose respect for you. if you refuse to put her in her place when she acts out to avoid confrontation, she will keep doing it.i'm not saying you need to backhand her, but the moment she disrespects you or does something you do not like you need to make it known to her. and make it known that if she continues to do that, you are gone.a man's biggest threat to a woman isn't violence, it's leaving. any man who has walked out of the house on a woman knows exactly what I mean.
>>538490089>you caught me mid lie so I'll spout ad homHow about this post the nudes of some of those 23 years olds youre dating with a timestamp.
>>538490024men with no real experience with women will see her as an 8. men who do will see her as a 6 with an attitude of a 2.there are plenty of women younger than her with similar/better bodies, and who aren't high maintenance attention whores.
>>538488095Still better than being weirdoshttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rZMoGyr1BFU
>>538487775just be celibate
>>538490089Your city isn't LA. You can't get it unless you've lived and tried to date there. It's not the normal world. Also, you're German and age gaps are way less taboo there than they are in the US, or at least that was the case until about 10 years ago when my close German friend who often told me about it moved to the US. >>538489943I've heard enough lore and seen enough circumstantial evidence (girl with the BF in Marine bootcamp made USMC shit for him in a metalworking class etc.) that I think they're real. I also think that I could easily homewreck either one of them but I have too much of a conscience for that.
To be honest life is shittier at 30. Most of my family have died at this point and I'm burying friends or close people every year. Zero energy for dating or fucking, I haven't meet a bitch who didn't stress me out so I stop dating, I don't have the energy in me to navigate bullshit
>>538487775You know what to do.
>>5384902369 or 10 body6 to 8 face3 to 5 attitude
>>538488955This is mildly funny content. Most girls go out in groups and just want to hang out with themselves. If you talk to them they'll reject you. If they want to talk with you it will be of small talk. Besides I guess you never tried to have a conversation with most woman. They conduct psycho babble. I've made a few girl friends who liked to talk with me when I was married. Covid and tinder has dried pussy out. They're turned off by the idea you wan to have sex wit them.
>>538490322> Most of my family have died at this point That’s some extremely shitty genetics or lifestyle choices, anon.
>>538488161are you ugly anon?im 5'6'' ltatino manlet and i do very well with women since i have a beautful face, pic related my pregnant white christian wifesorry guys , you guys didnt make any moves on her so she got desperate and let me impregnante her,
In biotech hubs like Sorrento Valley or Thousand Oaks you see lots of Dork White guys married to Asian or Indian women. Very common couple at Sprouts or Trader Joe.
>>538490292i don't recommend homewrecking. i've done it, eventually dated the girl for several years, and it didn't work out. and no she didn't cheat on me with another guy to complete the cycle.i also don't recommend just having a fling being "the other guy". it might sound like fun from a conquest and pvp standpoint, but when you step back and think about it, what's the prize? a whore?and then if you go on to steal her away and date her, it will be on rocky foundation. it will likely have awkward things like "when is our anniversary" because maybe you were hiding your relationship until she broke up with the guy. and things just compound and snowball from there. you can't build a castle on a marsh.he was probably fucking her too. now imagine you come in and fuck her right after she got done fucking him earlier that morning or blowing him and you give her a kiss because you haven't seen her in a week. when you think of it, you're the loser not the victor. both of you really.the only time it might be "cool" is if it's a one time thing like you go on a trip with this girl and fuck her and don't take it serious and just write her off as you would any other skank
>>538490212> Some It is only 1 woman and I also dont keep nudes since I have minor sons who can get access to my phone. In general though I wouldnt take nude snapshots since I trying more by being mature. Younger women really are fed up with guys who masturbate all the time, it is a thing several women told me nowIf I was younger and had more time I would consider dating 2-3 women though but work and seeing my sons too dont allow that realistically. >>538490240Being into younger women isnt weird. Your complete morality is basically anti-nature and as a result your entire population will continue to dwindle till you perish. Over the long haul either you snap out of your ideology or your ideology ends you.>>538490292Women love to do things that are taboo, aside from that you can date FOBs. I am dating a Brazilian for example. Eastern European women dont mind age gaps about 50%, Latinas similar I would say, Middle Eastern almost all of them accept them if you're a Westerner. My gf is half Syrian so there is probably some genetic truth to this. Nordic societies always emphasized self-reliance more than other areas of the planet
>>538490363>very aggressive political statement>also looking for friends...lmao these people crack me up
>>538490368>fails to mention rich tooare you wearing a bullet proof vest? she's hot based narco anon
>>538488231https://www.4chan.org/janitorapp
>>538490322The problem is that there are no real 'milestones'. Paying taxes or buying a house would not be milestones. Maybe having ak id? But I don't look forward to the idea of having a wife anymore since they're all whores, I just don't see myself ever doing it.Besides going from job to job and trying to get more money, life seems like pointless waste and waiting to die.
>>538489593Because my daddy came home with the milk and yours didn't
I became a Wizard last year and I'm realising it is fucking overIf you're young for fuck sake go out and try and snag a woman and quickly realize if you want to marry or not (if you're not in a "YES I WOULD MARRY THIS GIRL" mindset by month 2/3 dump them and move on ASAP)You basically have 60 months of your life to find a wife at a younger age or you are fucking cooked
>>538490605Demoralizer
>>538490515The point of nudes isn't to jerk off, its to show she does what you want when you want it. But really Id take anything that shows you aren't a liar, outside the getting divorce raped part, thats believable.
>>538487775OP isn't 1pbtid, but he's close and clearly a fag. As someone who dated in early 30's (32) pre-pandemic, it's important to filter unserious girls ASAP. After a couple practice dates with girls I'd never consider settling with, I was comfortable talking about the future with girls on the first date.Also that one anon who plans to go crawling back to his white ex who dumped him for not having his own place is starting to piss me off. "Not having your own place" is an excuse; girls don't give a shit if Chad has his own place or not.
>>538487775It is if you're ugly and have no charm.
>>538488886>Oh no! Other people will think you are a creep while you are happily smashing prime pussy! Jesus fucking christ lad. Imagine spending your time caring what people you don't know or care about think.
>>538490515women do not mind age gaps (for themselves). other women of most other cultures don't care either. it's really only western societies who have been brainwashed by jewish feminism that take it as an affront for the obvious reason (they bought into it, now are undesirable and have to be the crab bucket to others).i've talked to women all across the world and it mirrors your experience. most it was in Asia and i would say age gaps are more the normal than they are not. 5-7 year age gaps are very common and 10+ is really not surprising to most.i really love the look of many Indonesian women with their inky skin, nice bodies, and luscious lips and tits. many of them 18-21 would say they dated foreign guys in their 40s, or were definitely open to it. same with Thailand, Vietnam, and other countries.>it's not CJKKorea is absolutely fucked with the younger generation. feminism is just as bad there or maybe even worse if you can imagine it, the two sexes are actively pitted against each other and their feminists have demonstrations where they hang up used dirty pads and tampons to "protest". yeah...Japan is still very clanish and keep to themselves so they don't have the same allure to foreigners, though it is possible. it's just that many do not want to leave Japan (don't blame them) so you'd have to immigrate there, which can be difficult even if you marry a Japanese woman.China is china. Not bad but it's a massive country and has its own cultural things. go with a Taiwanese or Hong Kong girl for an easier time. they will be a bit more high maintenance than a mainlander though. lots of very pretty girls that come from poor families there, it's fucking wild. knew a girl who could be a model with a tight body at 18, her family lived in like a meth house.
>>5384877751) Smiling2) Soi glasses3) Cat (imagine a single man tending a litter box)4) Beard (it does him no favors)5) 20lb overweight6) Haircut makes him vaguely pin-headed7) This may fit under '20lbs overweight' but his neck has no definition.He just looks like a redditor, honestly. Doesn't look like there's any edge to him at all. He looks like he wants to talk about how great the latest Zelda game is, or just echo out reddit-tier knowledge on 'social issues'.Combine this with the fact that he's on a stupid dating site, and it all just makes him look desperate.
>>538490605Milestones are for you to make m8. The world is your oyster.In terms of personal relationships, since that's the topic of this thread, my milestones were:>hab seggs>get practice gf>get practice married>get divorced (sidequest)>get married>have kid>go the whole nine yards and have four more kidsI think the next personal relationship milestone will be surviving to see some grandkids. In the meantime, just trying to make money faster than my wife and kids can spend it, the eternal struggle.
>>538490364>> Most of my family have died at this point>That’s some extremely shitty genetics or lifestyle choices, anon.Is unnatural bad luck. Dad died by covid by being a dumbfuck and working with old people at the beginning of the pandemic WHILE having kidney failure (he didn't share that with anyone, don't know why) some family members died by cancer because they live in a chemical hazard zone, my uncle visit my grandfather while being sick and kill him, uncle due by car accident, best friend got stabbed to death, my other friend is almost OD every week so I'm guessing she will be next... Is just death all around
>>538487775At 30 you can find only two kind of women.Single mothers looking for a cuck provider.Childfree sluts looking for a cuck provider.
>>538490477>i don't recommend homewrecking. i've done it, eventually dated the girl for several years, and it didn't work out. and no she didn't cheat on me with another guy to complete the cycle.I did too, but I didn't realize it at the time - she told me they were already broken up. Unfortunately mine DID complete the cycle. I agree with basically everything else you said, and it's why I'm not going for it. Also the girls in question are all local, which means they have parents around who are way closer to my age than hers, and that's a really hard thing to deal with. The one time thing also isn't really an option because I'd keep seeing her every day on campus and that'd be awkward as fuck, plus she'd have ammo to really fuck me over with if she decided to. We're all on track to graduate next spring and I'll see what happens at the end of school. As a side note, I've been working out, mountain biking, and dieting like crazy and should hopefully be down at least a size by the time I go back to school this fall. As I mentioned, this has all been happening despite me being overweight (not massively obese but I'm about 225 when I should really be 160-170) and it'll be interesting to see what happens when I show up at school substantially more attractive than the last time they saw me.
>>538490605life is like math, order of operations is important. you absolutely should not be having a child with a woman before marriage.there are absolutely milestones, i don't know what you mean.>get first job>get first car>graduate>get degree or go to trade school>graduate>get your first real job>save up for your first place (renting)>get a new car that suits you>get promoted>keep saving to buy your own place (house)>maybe dating in between this>get serious with a girl>get married>buy a place together>have childrenyou don't have to follow this exact playbook. some people don't date often, and some people live at home longer to save up to buy their first starter home by themselves without a partner.>b-but it's too expensiveyou need to set your expectations and plan accordingly. live in the suburbs in a small $150k house. don't buy new cars all the time or unreliable shitboxes because you want to flex with a used Jaguar to your coworkers or bitches. you can't afford that. stop having 100 streaming subscriptions and ordering doordash every day or getting $10 coffee every morning.if you need to buy a good reliable car, cap yourself to a $10k used budget and aim for a good model year Honda/Toyota.
>>538490637Realization that when you're young you wait to get a car, or turn 18 and not have your mom legally able to tell you what to do, or smoke your first cigarette with your buddies- all those were milestones. You're not waiting to turn 50 and be able to buy Super Porn nowadays.
>>538490885>>get divorced (sidequest)you mean practice divorced right
If you really want women you need to seek a position in which you always have the high ground - fashion - finance - best of all showbiz. Look at tech Dorks like Gates and Ellison - all that money and they have to bottom feed with Slavs and Asians. I would take being Gabe Newell over any other tech Dork.Here is a 20yo Camila Morrone at DiCaprio's place in the Bird Streets.
>>538490128Disagree, women dont care about age if they like you but will use it against you if they dont or as grounds for not dating you. Possibly after breakups too.>>538490398I have dated an Asian woman and found her to be boring. They are like drones>>538490094Retarded take, you could have children at 60. I want to have more, I am 46 rn>>538490648Getting a younger woman isnt difficult, you just have to try often enough. I am dating looks-wise at a higher tier now than I ever did before. Also I didnt get divorceraped, my ex wife is financially very successful (part of why the divorce actually, women with success often divorce in my experience)>>538490633Retard take. You dont seem to understand that modern dating is fundementally broken and most of relationships you do see are based on women settling in their 30s for a man they're not attracted to on the grounds of it not being inconvenient for them. That is why they emphasize equal age too, they want a guy who is stable and controllable by the time they are run through and largely out of attractive options with interesting men due to time constraints. These relationships will for the most part end up miserable since women hate men who want to have relationships. Women are most satisfied if they're sharing a guy with other women or who could potentially get with other women. The whole idea of egalitarian relationships is a lie, it is them settling at their terms. It is the relationship they consider socially-accepted, it isnt something that turns them on or even satisfies them. Its a foul compromise based on complacency and social desirability
>>538490998>starter homeThere's that word again.
>>538487775why would you want to date?
>>538487846Yeah this, the good women were already taken by that point, all that's left are the sloppy seconds.
>>538490998>live in the suburbs in a small $150k house.nvm I see you're just baiting me. Where would this impossibly cheap house be, the middle of rural north dakota? Kek.
>>538488481>>538488530>pretend you don’t want to settleThis shit works when you are younger. At 38 you want to be very transparent you are looking to settle. You are almost certainly looking at a dating pool of mid 30s women who are acutely aware their clock is ticking and they’ve wasted their life. It’s easy to go “just fuck girls in their 20s” but the reality is this isn’t happening for the vast majority of 38yos. Your selling point is having your shit together and looking to settle down quickly.t. 42 and have seen it play out countless times with my wife’s friends.
>>538487775Why does every faggot these days pretend, that you have to find people in Tinder and you can't meet a woman somewhere else?1. 15 years ago everyone would laugh at you, if you complained you can't find any women and the reason you can't is because you don't "match" them on some website2. Tinder is like 10 years old at this point and average woman uses it for like a week so 99% of the accounts are inactive, not been used for years.3. There are more men in tinder than women.Like why do people "honestly" suggest, that you need to be able to meet people on Tinder or some equivalent "app"?
>>538490989no, at 30+ you can find any kind of woman you want you just need to be a better filter at it and know where to look.give you a hint, it's not on ANY dating app or IG hoes. literally go touch grass and flirt with young girls at the mall, coffee shop, grocery store checkout, etc. literally think where they would hang out and work that is socially acceptable for you to also be there and go do it.the days that i didn't give a fuck and just went out and pushed myself to do it despite feeling "out of my league" or "taboo" (omg what will people think!) are the days i had the most success.i'll share my favorite memory. i was at the mall doing my rounds and this one really pretty girl came in with her friend. i have a thing for girls with "goth" or darker features and this girl was pulling it off really well without all the cringe nose ring and tattoos. just a nice fair skin, dark clothes/makeup vibe and cute petite body.first saw them at the food court but i bitched out on my good chance to strike up convo with them. walked around the mall and eventually saw them again going into Hot Topic (surprise). i went in, looked around, and found them. started up a conversation about one of the band tees they were look at and we began talking about music. complimented both of them on their outfits, and asked them if anyone gave them weird looks. they laughed and said yeah but they don't care, and i continued talking to them about how i was a goth/skater kid in highschool and how its sad that subcultures like that are a dying breed.they were eating it up, laughing, and then asked me how old i was. this was by design, since obviously i didn't dress that way anymore and looked older with a beard now. when i told them my age they were floored, wouldn't believe it. i was telling them about the music of the 90s and 2000s to essentially prove it and realized i needed to make a move. got the hot(ter) chick's number and eventually fucked her weeks later, in her makeup.
>>538491062There are no "good women". What you perceive as good women are simply conservative women who are memed into settling down earlier but at their core they function like all the other women. Remove her from her small town and she will act like all the bossbabes and so on. There is no difference, women simply do what their environment does or a man of high mentals strength compells them to. There is nobody home internally in them, not even at the higest offices in politics. I should know I was married to a career woman who became quite powerful.>>538491023Also dumb, this gets you golddiggers who arent genuinely attracted to you. You have to to talk to younger women irl, lots of them, have positive interactions and then get with those. If they meet you outside of structured dating venues they are much more tolerant than what they themselves believe. >>538491201No, you never want to display you want to settle in a Western country. Men wanting to settle is seen as weakness. You can do that in a Muslim country or similar, not here or in Australia. It doesnt work. It gets you run through women your age or golddiggers, not women who are attractive and into you. If you want to have one child, be miserable for decades and get henpicked all the time then follow this guys advice.
>>538490515No real FOBs where I am now, it's a 93% white county and the exceptions are almost all very Americanized or are already married to white guys that they moved here with. The closest I ever came to a FOB was that many years ago I spent a winter in Japan and ended up dating a Korean girl who was visiting after she'd finished college in Australia. She was the opposite of the Koreans I've known in the us, super sweet and fun, one of the best girls I've ever dated, and had no sign of the crazy plastic surgery or cosmetics that Koreans are known for, very "girl next door." She never admitted to me who her family were but she implied heavily that they were a big deal and would never approve of our relationship. Actually holy shit, come to think of it, maybe she was actually some North Korean general's daughter or something.
>>538491047yeah because it's a thing. people have this fantasy of buying their first home in some walkable city in the posh area and getting their morning avocado toast and starbucks while going to the office for the jewish daycare jobthat's not how it works and never how it worked for most people. stop complaining about having to drive 30 minutes to work each day because you live 10 miles from the office. that was how people made it work when they were young.>>538491073im not baiting you, maybe that exact figure isn't it maybe it's $200k now for a smaller home in the burbs but it's the same concept. not every house is $500k or something. have you bought a house in the last 5 years, or ever?
>>538491297I can tell you are Turkish.
>>538487775Can't speak to how it is in upside-down Bongland but the same thing happened to me. I'm an average white dude but I can drink and fuck like an animal so they keep coming back for more. I can also make shit up on the fly and sound way cooler than I actually am.I've fucked and refucked dozens of women over the last few years in numerous countries. All of them 6/10s or better. The best pussy was a chubby white girl with pale skin. The best head was another chubby white girl with pale skin. The best conversation was yet another chubby white girl with pale skin.The hot ones are more fun to take out because you can make other people seethe. But for a random Tuesday with UberEats a 6/10 chubby girl to get drunk with and then rail the shit out of is a pretty good time from where I'm sitting. Which is currently Mexico, where I am currently fucking all of the local women (sorry Paco) now that my country is poojeeted to death.Don't be an 8-6 wagie. Have your own place (or Airbnb some place to bring them back to).
>>538491376Just because I am telling you things you dont like it doesnt make me a Turk. The West isnt suited for settling down. This works only in healthy cultures as I already wrote about earlier > Marriage only works if women know you could simply go to church or the Imam or whatever and get a new, younger woman from the wifestore. If that doesnt exist anymore and you tie yourself, limit yourself to one woman, she is going to pry your skin off layer by layer till nothing of what she used to be into is left. This isnt about objective value or smv as the kids call it now, it is about your perceived leverage and willingness to leave. If that isnt there you lose. And with the way legal marriage is now, if you have children too most men wont do that. Men are builders and fixers but women dont want men who have the need to do that.> Since it is wholly unrealistic to atm return to such a society the only real applicable way to live now is to produce illegitimate children outside of marriage.
>>538487882Those girls are not wife material
>>538491370There are no small houses near me less than 300k, your post then turns into a "move away from where you job is to some Midwest city where the price of a fix-me-up starter home is cheaper than average because it's a dump no one wants to live in". The standard 4chan advice that does not work in practice.
>>538491424Your multiple referrals to ‘the west’ and to Islam is how I know you’re Turkish or some other form of brown. We both know at the very least you are not ethnically German.
>>538491250as someone who grew up before the internet, saw the rise of it, and now the current form of it with younger generations.... i can understand what happened. even if it's fucking crazy.the internet and "online" has been normalized. everything you do is basically online now. think about people's daily lives of shopping (even groceries) a lot of them just Amazon/Temu everything, DoorDash/Uber Eats, etc. going outside and brick and mortar is a thing of the past or an unfortunate reality for things that can't be done online (in their eyes). i don't mean just young people, boomers are just as captivated by it. look at who inherited facebook, it's not "cool" anymore for the young kids.growing up where a home computer was a luxury and stayed at home was a different time. to be honest, we'd all be different if we grew up with the concept of a 4G smartphone at your fingertips from age 6. even if you didn't have the internet, being able to constantly communicate with friends at any time anywhere would be a game changer.there's a crazy statistic for gen Z where like 80% of them have never met a new friend "in person" first, it's always been online and then they eventually meet in person if they ever do. like every relationship for them starts online and that's how they interact. it's why they have social anxiety because it's like an unexpected order of events for them.so naturally dating follows this same "online first" and normalization. that and the lack of third spaces these days, where do single people even go to meet others? a book club? (no that's for gay men and straight women)
>>538491463Why the FUCK would you want to get married, or remarried, at 38?
>>538491463>not wife materialNo woman is wife material. You conservative cucks dont get it, your self-imposed limitation to older women is literally making you unattractive in the eyes of women. I am not surprised you see so often nowadays that such men are getting cucked because their desire for a relationship changes the frame to the potential philanderer being the woman. Normally your woman should be wondering if you're the one who might cheat but this modern weak man culture has wholly inverted this. You will not make it work that way, it doesnt work. >>538491501I am as ethnically German as one can realistically be from within a globohomo city, some of my ancestors might be from Eastern Europe due to migration waves. But no, I am 0% Middle Easterner nor am I Muslim. My grandmas name was Wittek so. Again, you dont like the information but it doesnt work.
>>538490608>having a father makes you reply to bot threadsThat's not how that works
>>538490797Kek this is true but I have only dated one Asian woman, no idea on broader trends there nor would I consider them for anything child-rearing wise since they're physically so small.
>>538491465$300k is do-able. a lot of lenders only need 5-10% down these days. save up $15-30k cash and buy a house. given how expensive rent is these days you're probably breaking even and at least you own.the reality is people are very bad at personal finance and making good decisions that compound into wealth and stability. i understand there are more potential jewish tricks and pitfalls to avoid, but the point remains.the hardest thing is the first $10k. once you save your first $10k you really unlock a lot of financial stability for yourself because many people get into debt when something unexpected happens and they have to put it on credit and it snowballs from there out of control. and then it becomes like a obese person, where they are so deep in debt they continue to get worse because it seems impossible to shed it all and go back.then they stress buy for their own dopamine (on credit) to make themselves feel better temporarily because of their burden of debt. the money changers do deserve the fate that's coming to them, but for now we have to be smarter ourselves.having that $10k safety net allows you to handle something like your car's AC breaking in the heat of summer and being able to repair it for $1-2k without doing something drastic like buying another car outright and now getting a car payment for the next 36-72 months.
>>538491501Also read again, I am not telling you to not have children, I am telling you not to marry. Read it again: > Marriage only works if women know you could simply go to church or the Imam or whatever and get a new, younger woman from the wifestore. If that doesnt exist anymore and you tie yourself, limit yourself to one woman, she is going to pry your skin off layer by layer till nothing of what she used to be into is left. This isnt about objective value or smv as the kids call it now, it is about your perceived leverage and willingness to leave. If that isnt there you lose. And with the way legal marriage is now, if you have children too most men wont do that. Men are builders and fixers but women dont want men who have the need to do that.> Since it is wholly unrealistic to atm return to such a society the only real applicable way to live now is to produce illegitimate children outside of marriage.
>>538491297The definition doesn't really matter, the point is that any conventionally desirable woman is already taken by that point unless you like fatties.
>>538487775Yep. It's over for you buddy. Better get on with the life of an isolationist
>>538491370Literally the cheapest house on Zillow right now in my entire city is $475k. The closest ones I can find under $300k are an hour away and are vacation cabins with no city water, gas, or sewer. You can't even get a townhouse under $500kish.
>>538487775you won't meet the love of your life with an algorithm or an app. you will meet women in the world, and they want to know you first, so look for friends who will become your partner. remain hopeful and don't listen to women haters
>>538491271>chase goth teens around the mall in your 30s, bronice one
>>538491731This is blatantly false cause the more attractive a woman is the less willing is she to settle. It is less physically attractive women who settle the earlierst since they are more afraid and affected of their looks declining. This is also why conservatives always push the idea to marry mid women. Obviously this doesnt work and all it does is give you these humiliation rituals where above average men are getting divorceraped by mids only for said women then to go> where have all the attractive guys went online when they realize they just divorced the most attractive man they ever had a long term relationship shot with.
Dating is fine, you just need to MAN UP.
>>538491723i dont think that it's realistically a good idea to have children out of wedlock. it's not good for the children.
dont worry anons, you future wife is still growing
>>538490989third world import where providing isn't that much
>>538487775I was 38 when my 18 year old virgin wife chased me down for marriage. Never settle for feminist whores.
>>538491812> It is not a good ideaYou know what isnt a good idea? Not to have any at all or have them witness their father being a total cuck.
>>538488886thinking I'm a creep gives me diamonds
>>538488779These demoralize far more than they save
>>538491822>100% LEGIT VID NIG
>>538491465Life is about taking calculated risks so you can oscillate towards your goals which you either achieve and then work towards the next goal or which you come close and get a case of the sour grapes.With regards to housing, you shouldn't treat the house you live in as an investment or even an investment vehicle. It's a tool, a depreciating asset at best. Any girl from a good family will have misgivings about raising kids in a rental and don't even get me started on pregnancy-induced nesting urges. I think there was a thread on /biz/ about what a terrible investment a home is. Well, a wife is a terrible financial decision too, but still better than Option B which consists of donor egg + surrogacy + revolving door of nannies. Option C is just being a sperm donor, but I actually enjoy spending time with my kids.As for being priced out of your hometown/immediate surroundings, shit sucks but housing in America is still significantly more affordable for the unwashed masses than the rest of the first world.
>>538491822Notice that this guy isnt particularly attractive, most likely not rich but he lives outside of social expectations even with his looks. This is why he can do this. Most of you think its a question of value to date younger women, it isnt, it is a question of making the effort to find agreeable women by approaching large numbers. Your idea of a relationship is always some form of tricking because you have been indoctrinated
>>538487775Tinder is shitbest you can hope for is a couple easy lays, but they're usually pretty low quality and you have to pay to see who matches you
4 eyes lol
>>538490368seen a lot of ugly men with pretty ladies it's all about social blah, blah, blah
>>538491808Ah well, maybe it works differently in europe.
>>538488371Disgusting standards. As a 38 year old man you should be pure of heart and not accepting bullshit from women so God blesses you with a virgin woman of 18 years old.
>>538491772then your fucking city is retarded and you need to move. that's it. what the fuck do you think people did? they moved and found work elsewhere because it was within their means.i used to travel for work a lot and i enjoyed talking to the everyday salt of the earth and service worker people who worked at the places we'd go to. one of the spots was California (Fontana) and Las Vegas. a lot of people who worked in California would live across the border in Nevada because it was MUCH cheaper, despite being a good 30-45 minute drive each way.did they bitch about how everything in California was too expensive? no they just moved somewhere they could afford.this is a thing just about everywhere in "destination" spots or areas near urban sprawl. know what? those spots weren't always expensive because they weren't always built up like they are now. that's how time, investment, and property value works (as long as they don't bring in section 8 housing).we had this same situation in Asheville NC. unfortunately it became a hipster destination artsy fartsy place, so (((investors))) bought up places to turn into Airbnbs. so much to the point where everyone who actually works in the town has to live outside of it because it's too expensive to live in it despite working in it. that's life. yeah its annoying and yeah jews are to blame, but that doesn't mean you can't buy a house somewhere else to live.>>538491797yep, once you realize that life is what YOU make of it, not what other incels or roasties tell you to do, you can be free and enjoy it.
>>538490363tranny
>>538491847you can be married and not be a cuck, shocking i know
>>538487775there is always the rest stop urinals
>>538491898i find it to be one place that has more actual human interactions than most places, unlike some thread that turn into bot replies, tranny posting, or some other bullshit
>>538487775Any ideas.Either get sexually aggressive, (which he isn't capable of) or give up and go to Africa or Asia and get treated like a God.
>>538492057Have you been to Germany?
>>538492076>i find it to be one place that has more actual human interactions than most placessink you deeper in your problem with toxic advice
>>538491949Set your filter distance to like 1-10 miles depending on where you are and swipe on anything that makes your dick move. 90% of "likes" are going to be fake profiles or far away or both, so don't bother paying for it.Tinder/Hinge can be gamed, real easy. Bumble pretty much sucks.You will need some okay photos of you with other people, or you doing something, that someone else took. If you don't have those you are ngmi. Selfies do not cut it.
>>538492017It works like that everywhere because women respond to incentives and their own emotions. If society doesnt force women to settle down they will determine that the age for settling down is when their looks begin to fade. They dont want to settle down for a boring guy at the peak of their attractiveness, come on. You wouldnt either if you were in their shoes, I am not blaming them. Hence you must find ways to work around this>>538492057You really cannot and if were beeing honest to ourselves we know that. Your father 100% has made compromises he shouldnt have because he tried to keep the household together, was too spent after work when his wife decided to berate him strategically to get her demands fullfilled. It is not working.
>>538492126This applies to any Western or high GDP country that has significant womens rights thus including presumably Japan, Korea, Singapore, Taiwan and a few others.
>>538488532Hahaha you sound like a boomer faggot with whore daughters getting mad that no one wants to marry those slags.For women who are leftovers, all that's left for them is to be predatory bitches to weak men who never got women and figured them bitches out. For 38 year old men like me, you work out, look good, work hard and meet with young chicks so that when one likes you, she chases you down for marriage. I never once accepted that I'd settle for leftover roast beef, and I landed am 18 year old virgin who wanted to get married. Fuck accepting leftovers as a man who has to build himself up while these chicks just have to age into being a lady. Males are hardwired for fairness and there is nothing fair about working and building yourself up to give it away to some whore who spent her life sucking chads dicks and now she needs a pension plan because people only fuck her and never commit to her. Lol no one wants your whore daughters or sisters, you sound like you're trying to trick men into accepting shit stained leftover women.
>>538492166>when their looks begin to fadethe only realize that when they start getting rejected by certain men
>>538491924>shouldn't treat the house you live in as an investment or even an investment vehicle. It's a tool, a depreciating asset at best
>>538487775>Caring about dating at allNormalfags have destroyed this website
>>538488709Lol that's because you're dating whores your own age while you have nothing. Avoid women your own age, as soon as you're ready for marriage, you go for an 18 year old virgin. Never settle for leftover women.
>>538492243Some do see it themselves, they just dont admit it but post cope videos online> This is what a real woman looks like, if you disagree you're a pedo> insert video of a woman who is 28 and so sunburned that I at 46 look younger than herWomen always say shit they wish was true even if it isnt because to them social reality and reality are the same and on some subtle level they believe they can change reality by changing beliefs. That is also why they are into astrology and manifesting> if I close my eyes really hard it isnt happening
>>538492166>conflates making compromises in the context of marriage to being a cuckYour logic is the same logic vapid cunts who want a million instagram followers and a thousand beta orbiters use to screech about how getting married, pregnant, and then raising a child is interfering with living their best life.When I was single, I still had to make tons of compromises at school, at work, hell, even at the car dealership. It's part of give and take.
>>538492031Exact same thing happened here. Used to be a down to Earth logging town but it had the double-edged sword of being close to a high-tier ski mountain and a river with great fly fishing among other things. Pandemic happened, remote work became a thing, and SF techbros flooded in and caused prices to skyrocket. The bright side, though, is that I actually have really solid dating prospects here just because 95% of the single men in the area are manchild techbros with no interests outside of mountain biking and crypto while I'm an actual functional adult with a personality and life skills, even if I'm broke and trying to change careers right now. This is according to women I've talked to about it, btw, and they've also said that being monogamous is a huge advantage because apparently most of the guys here are into poly nonsense too. It's an interesting bizarro world compared to most places in the country. I'll probably have to move in a few more years but maybe I can find somebody to bring with me first.
>>538492280I'll take what is unrealized gains for 500 alex
>>538492294unironically this. if i read this 5 years ago i'd probably have thought it was some edgy meme but it really is more and more true the more you live to experience it.
>>538492316Do it often enough over a long enough timeframe and watch how women repay you for it. Dont tell me I didnt warn you. Women live in a dog eats dog world when it comes to morality, they have no quarrels doing shit if they emotionally feel like it. If you signal that you are willing to make compromises of great sorts to keep the relationship going she is highly likely to be going to find someone who wont.
>>538492376This is also the reason for the "she cheated on me with a total bum" trope
I know this is all memes and shitposts and whatever. But man, even the people who have it way better than me will tell you how fucking cooked dating apps are. And the thing is, it's not that I've never gotten matches on them, it's that once it happens, there's like this whole set of rules that I have no fucking idea how people just all apparently know, because the concept of them flies in the face of how interacting with people is supposed to work. I'm in my late 30s, which I get is fucked for dating, but whatever. So I match with a girl who has all kinds of stuff in common with me, real nerd shit. She goes to Ren Fairs, she likes conventions, just all that stuff. So we have stuff to talk about, and in my head I don't have to play this whole game and can just try talking. So very early on, I ask if we should communicate elsewhere, because typing on a fucking phone keyboard into an app is annoying and she literally says she doesn't want to tell stories or whatever via the texting. She says no, we can talk here and get to know one another. Ok, sure. Well, barely 2 messages after that, she's completely checked out, reverts to one-word answers, and then unmatches. Nothing about any of this makes sense, and I feel like I'm trying to have a complex math discussion with a fucking cat. And here's the thing that I don't get, right? Let's say it doesn't go that way, and it actually does seem to go kinda well for a few messages, and you want to set up a date. She lives an hour away in a place I don't know, so how the fuck am I supposed to pick a place to go there? How does that even work?
>>538487840/threadImagine giving a fuck in 2026. Dudes are just horny I guess.
>>538491271>at the mall doing my rounds
>>538492339lol yes, talking with women sometimes you realize how retarded and brainwashed men can be too. then again being in close proximity to California is dangerous in its own regard
>>538492371Conceptually, I agree, but I've always wondered what the actual process is when you're trying to court this 18-year-old to both fuck and then have a longterm relationship with. What do you talk about? Like, what do you spend your time doing? You just tolerate the zoomer memes and shit while showering her with money so she'll stay interested in you? Like what exactly is the day-to-day here?
>>538490034Lel that's like saying wine aunts advertise alcohol as a meme, it's just a social stereotype
>>538492376Divorce rape is real and it fucks many men over. It might very well fuck me over too one day. But I went in with very specific desires, specifically kids. As previously noted, if not marriage, then it's egg donor + surrogate + nannies. In the case of marriage, it's almost transactional, but there is a surprising amount of affection and respect born out of years and children. Even if it ends tomorrow, I still think I'm better off. But again, the US allows for paternity testing, something I know the frogs outlaw, dunno about kraut law.
>>538492371I dont care about the virgin part but yeah, dating much younger women is 100% possible if you approach large enough numbers of them. Simply dont give up, try again and again. Just dont marry them (or women of any age for that matter). Do not put a ring on it. You can have children out of wedlock, if necessary poke a hole in the condom. Never get married though. It is a very bad thing in combination with modern laws and women making money thus being independent, we as men are not adapted for and our natural proclivities will then make us unattractive for the woman we are with, causing them to exit.
>>538492522You can do that but you can also simply impregnate them. Poke a hole in the condom and save the 100k usd plus get a more or less free babysitter.
>>538487775I went to r/tinder once and it ruined my day.
>>538491271>hello fellow goth kidsGlad you got to bang a tight young goth before her dad came home, but that atory sounds hilarious.
>>538490337if you can stomach their looks go for it
>>538492566Mentioned upthread that girls from good families have higher standards, which I don't mind. I had specific requirements: I wanted multiple kids from the same woman, which we would raise as a family. Ideally the kids would also know their wider family: aunts, uncles, grandparents. Maybe it's not important to you, but it was important to me. I respect my father-in-law and don't mind playing by old-fashioned rules. Plus there was a nice dowry in the form of a house. Again, girls from good families have higher standards.
>>538492413dating apps are designed to not work, meaning they are designed to keep you in the loop not get off of them. don't let Hinge's marketing team fool you.most dating sites are all owned by Match Group, and their former CEO Bernard Kim came from Zynga. yes, mobile gaming giant Zynga. why would that be relevant? because you are the product, and its designed to keep you paying & playing for the game.anyone that has used dating apps for a hot second in the last several years know how it works for men. it's essentially a sea of fake profiles, girls promoting their only fans, scammers/spammers, and a handful of real women who are mostly single moms and otherwise undesirable (fat, ugly, etc). you are paying $19.99 a month for hopes and dreams that maybe you'll get a catch, it's the most absurd game you will ever play.the app experience for women is equally unimportant because the entire purpose is men. i'd be willing to bet that 80% of the users on dating apps are male and 20% are female (the ones that are real people). its like a club, where the bouncer lets in women because they know dudes go to the club in hopes of picking up a woman. but this club doesn't have to worry about the sausage party ratio because the idiots think that the club is so big there has to be tons of women on it.i do think at its inception Tinder was actually usable for hooking up. there was a heyday where you could smash girls easily and find at least a somewhat cute hoe that just wanted some dick. that got ruined just as fast if not faster than AAA gaming because they saw a money making opportunity.
I would say marrying younger women is even worse given their youth they might sooner or later perceive the situation as them having more options due to their age than you do. And there is a point where it likely hold truth if the age gap is above 20 years. I am not telling you to not pursue these relationships, simply to just impregnate them and not marry them. Marriage destroys your natural advantage, the male leverage of the equation. You become a target that way, if you dont marry you can get with younger women absolutely, I would highly recommend it even. Marriage with women of equal age doesnt work either, I did that, wouldnt recommend it either, I just believe that the disadvantages of marriage are even more pronounced for men if the woman is younger because she might perceive herself as having more future options than you do at some point. It doesnt even have to be true, it is sufficient for her to believe it though to cause you great trouble, dont do it. Dont destroy your life over trying to appeal to conservative retards who are getting destroyed by their poor life choices and old hag women.
>>538492584>Name is Tank >Painter>Alligator That guy's cooler than you, anon. I bet he is already neck deep in all that reddit pussy.
>>538492342I bought at the bottom in 2011 for 25k down at 4%. Doubled in value during covid inflation. Basically the bank paid me to raise two kids in it and pocket the equity. So yea, good investment.
>>538487775>Is dating in your 30s really as miserable as everyone says it is?Why do you even care? This is a religiously stupid, evil world that actually worships stupidity and evil. So why do you put it on any kind of a pedestal and feel like a "loser" if you don't "win" in it?Grow up and wake up already, and that means you develop the right and proper contempt for this world and thereby stop caring about anything but just being comfortable
>>538492057like the leftists say>oh sweet summer child
>>538492660> My girl has been indoctrinated to have higher expectations; therefore, she is better than everything you can getInsanity, this just is another trope of women adjusting preferences to what they think they can demand. There is no objective reality to women, that exists only to men.
>>538492641was at a nearby hotel. the key was to not make it super obvious and weird and rather tie it in to whatever else we were doing for the day.>pick her up>go do some stuff together and talk>eat>go see a movie, get handsy a bit>bang at the hotel>bring her back homeliterally that simple. the problem is some anons are going to sit here and tell me i'm "dumb" for spending $200 total on a day out with a cute girl "just to fuck her" while they cum into their flesh light and waifu pillow that costs more than that togetherfor me it was the experience and that kind of money is basically nothing.
>>5384927021) Just because it's a good investment for you doesn't mean it should be a means of investment for the masses.2) Still unrealized gains but good on you for getting some from the bank. Only critique is why just two kids?3) My point is that a man is rarely going to buy a house for investment. He buys it for his wife and kids. /biz/ had a thread on this where you can get significantly more than 200% on S&P500 for the same time period which is the superior investment in pure financial terms.
I can't remember the last time I saw a woman who wasn't an ogre or slut and usually they are both. Tbh I think I'm numb to romance at this point. I don't even want to get to know anyone anymore.
>>538492316>even at the car dealershipimagine being such consoomer cattle that you feel you have to "make compromises at the car dealership" instead of "nope, not going to buy that piece of shit, good bye. nope. not buying it. bye"
>>538492780your primary residence should never be viewed as an investment. it's a place to live and ultimately something you can pass down to your children.the fact that it can go up in value and you can sell it to potentially make more on it is really immaterial because that usually means the entire market is moving in one direction. so you made $100k and sell, then what? are you going to rent for 2 years hoping the market crashes and then buy? or are you just going to buy another house that's likely also appreciated similarly?for investment properties its different but those aren't ones you live in full time.
>>538492780>3) My point is that a man is rarely going to buy a house for investment. He buys it for his wife and kids. /biz/ had a thread on this where you can get significantly more than 200% on S&P500 for the same time period which is the superior investment in pure financial terms.Not just that, house prices will likely slump significantly if boomers intend to sell theirs. I doubt all the risk capitals will slop up all these boomer houses that arent prime real estate in large megacities for top dollar when they can instead invest into hot shit of new stuff like space, crypto or quantum computing where market caps can grow many multiples. Housing isnt even another 2x anymore
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>>538492838In more than one sense. I am lucky for having gotten out that cheaply.
>>538492838Housekeeper of the year, of all years. She married nine men and kept nine houses! An inspiration to housewives everywhere. :^)
>>538492152yea god forbird people in their 30s realize they aren't stuck with gaping harpies their age and instead get can get prime cunny without the baggage
>>538492660when you look down that shotgun barrel think of this thread and that we warned you. then maybe dont pull the trigger.you sound absolutely deluded and it won't end well for you. just hope you dont off yourself because of that high standard woman who left you and your happy family for her yoga instructor
>>538492904Already have five kids, thanks. Originally planned for three, but she convinced me otherwise. God, what a compromise.Protip: follow George Washington's advice and don't marry out of love.>Love is a mighty pretty thing; but like all other delicious things, it is cloying; and when the first transports of the passion begins to subside, which it assuredly will do, and yield–oftentimes too late–to more sober reflections, it serves to evince, that love is too dainty a food to live upon alone
>>538492904Simply dont marry. I am not saying people to not have children but to not marry the women they are with. If they would be into them they wouldnt require legal marriage in the first place. In reality it is them being a trick for a woman who has her best times behind her already having spent it with other men which is the norm in the West and many other countries. You can have 100% the experience for nearly free, why do you want to become the trick for a lot of money if you must not? Conservatives are really deluded being willing to settle for less attractive women and then calling this a moral victory.
>>538492780>more than 200% on S&P500You're playing with the bank's money. None of the losers on this thread have 300K to invest, or even a tenth. Apartment rent is almost the same as mortgage, and you're stuck in a building full of jackasses.
>>538492904as an aside you should never let your wife have any male "trainers" or instructors. the arabs are right about this one.my wife wants to learn to play golf, i told her she can if she finds a female instructor she likes if she really wants to.
