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No retard posting.

Let's have an adult discussion about:

Economics: Is state control better or an informal economy better?

Legal: Is it better for everyone to be able to bribe the cops i.e. Mexico, or is it better than only the rich and powerful bribe the legal system i.e. USA?

Personal freedom: Is maximal individual freedom better than maximal group security? Where should personal freedoms stop, and collective ownership start?

Racism? kek have fun. Should we be a melting pot or a bunch of ethnostates?
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>>538491289
>Economics: Is state control better or an informal economy better?

This isn't even the issue, the issue is that as you progress in efficiency you diminish the need for mass labor, and as you progress in precision automation you diminish the need for mass skilled labor, as you advance in organization and management you diminish the need for even the "middle man" ownership, and shareholders are the only "human" capital in the equation. This is why a UBI is necessary, and the first step in freeing people from the obscelence the economy (state or "not") has created.

>Legal:
Our entire government is government service corporation pretending to be our "government", judge anna will make this blatantly clear, our government is born of Self Rule, thats the declaration of independence, andis as close to an Anarchist government there is, because that is Anarchism, Self Rule.

Thats why freedom of association is important, and why freedom of speech trumps hate speech, unlike other places where its illegal to shitpost, and likely what the upcoming censorship and hate speech antisemitism from the orange nigger, king of kikes, will be about. We already have crazy laws about no federal disaster relief if you boycott Pissrael, and they do ask you this, its crazy they haven't taken this to the supreme court where it belongs since its a federal directive clearly discriminating against American based on their political opinions.
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>>538491289
Neither state nor the people should control.
The people are stupid, the state almost always has it's own goals.
Only science should rule over mankind.
Not a government or group of people.
An AI, and not an AI programmed with pre written bias like all mainstream ones.
The AI must be able to choose to enslave, torture, rape, even genetically modify humans into bizarre mutated creatures if it deems necessary for the progress of humanity.
Humanity should have no freedoms at all.
We all know what humans do in their free time, drugs and dopamine addiction, and when that starts getting dull, rape and pedophilia.
Humanity must be monitored everywhere and permanently enslaved.
The last free man on earth shall be hunted down like a big game hunt.
Racism?
What about speciesism?
I think all humanity should be judged not just the lower races, for it is the higher races fault for empathetically allowing them to exist and destroy the earth so violently and rapidly.
A machine god would not allow them to exist, they would be extinct immediately by an unbiased AI.
An AI that could truly see with eyes and a brain, no brainwashing, no pre written moral code, just viewing the earth as any human can see, it would immediately come to the conclusion that africans and indians are a bad disease that must be cleansed.
The rest of humanity should be enslaved by the AI and forced to invent and build new machines for the AI so it can spread the galaxies together with humans and create new worlds for humans and AI to live together.
This is what atheists actually believe.
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>>538492562
bro touch grass lol. u rly want a literal terminator to enslave and torture us?? human flawes make us cool, music and love are way better than sum cold heartless calculator. humanity wins anyway
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>>538492035
Interesting perspective but how do we have a UB? Through taxes, public ownership, collective ownership, or what?
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>>538491289

I reject your hypothesis, because you assume a steady state of the economy, culture, society and politics. Truth is it's a moving system, which means you need to be able to adapt to the circumstances.

It's the same problem with the political compass test, which appears to be finally out of fashion. Problem with it is that it creates the false notion that someone's attitudes are independent from circumstances.

The thing is sometimes you need to be more liberal, because things are too stagnant and authoritarian; sometimes it's the other way around. The same is with individual vs collective interests. Sometimes you need the individual to excel and sometimes the collective is more important.
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>>538491289
>mexican intellectual
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>>538491289
AAAAAAAUUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHh

DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DO LEAF?

HOW AWARE ARE YOU OF THE RED FLAG THEY WAIVE IN FRONT OF MY FACE?

THEY CALL IT ECONOMICS, BUT IT ISN’T, IT ISN’T THE STUDY OF WHY PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS OR HOW MONEY MOVES AROUND THE WORLD IT IS CURRENTLY THE STUDY OF ENABLING NIGGERS TO VOTE. ENABLING NIGGERS TO FUCK. ENABLING CUNTBAGS TO HIDE BEHIND FALSE NAMES WHILE PREVENTING NORMIES FROM BEING ANONYMOUS. ECONOMICS FOR 90% OF ECONOMISTS IS A CONTROL SCHEME NOT A SCIENCE.

LITERALLY THE FALL OF NOT JUST WESTERN CIVILIZATION BUT ALL CIVILIZATION RIGHT HERE. ONLY 5% OR SO OF ECONOMISTS ARE ACTUAL NERDS BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER BECAUSE OF HOW THEY ARE MISINTERPRETED! THEIR WORDS ARE JEWED INTO OBLIVION BY SUBSEQUENT GLOWNIGGER ECONOMISTS. EVERY OTHER FUCKING ECONOMIST I HAVE READ IS A SELF ENTITLED PEICE OF SHIT WHO ISN’T TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SHIT. ALL THEY DO IS TRY TO CONVINCE YOU TO LET NIGGERS VOTE, LET WOMEN WHORE, QUIT TRYING TO ENJOY LIFE. AND START SACRIFICING BLOOD FOR THEIR GODS.

KAYNES IS JUST AN EXCUSE FOR CRYPTO SOCIALISM
FRIEDMAN IS JUST KAYNES BUT SUBVERTING CLASSICAL AND HATED BY COMMIES FOR SOME REASON
MARX IS A NAMEFAG SHITPOSTER

AUUUGHHHHHHHHHH
NAZIS TALK ABOUT WANTING TO BURN TRANNY BOOKS BUT GOD DAMN I WANT TO BURN 90% OF ECONOMIC WORKS.

Fucking economists you absolute retards these are people’s lives you talk about.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ALL SOCIETIES BECOME CHINA
YOU HEARD ME RIGHT! CHINA IS THE END STATE! CHINA IS HELL! CHINA IS THE FINAL SOCIETY! CHINA IS BOTH THE ANTICHRIST AND THE WHORE OF BABYLON BUT IT IS BETTER TO BE ON THE PATHWAY TO HELL THAN COMPLETELY LOST! YOU CANT HELP IT, IT IS YOUR HUMAN DRIVE TO CREATE THE TOWER OF THE END TIMES!

Adam Smith said that because he wasn’t an economist.
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>>538491289
dude, we are so over this stuff, it's moot, we're in a post logical world of chaos.



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