>communism doesn't wo...
>>538499178China is national socialist with a hammer and sickle logo.
>>538499178Lucky han
>>538499178China is literally operating under fascism though, which is why they're experiencing some small and modest success instead of abject failure like pure communism.
national socialism with chinese characteristics
>>538499178https://youtu.be/IF92WrL2KVIoral
>>538499178that mean the apartments must be rented out now? is that allowed in china? is rent set by the party as well? interesting development. they need migration now, to fill these apartments with renters. right?
>>538499178but there's no communism in china. who the fuck even is deng xiaoping
>>538499314>economy run by CCP with 80% stake in all Chinese companies>UMMMMM ASKTHUALLY THATS CAPITALISM, CHUDCRAPitalist cope
>>538499178-rk.And neither do you.
>subhuman muttoid trash doesn't understand a ponzi markethave you bought trumps shitcoin yet, subhuman filth?let me guess another 1pbtid subhuman mutt thread? lmao
>>538499178They have entire ghost cities china, china is everything the left hates but some reason they claim to like. Its an atheistic authrotarian country ran by communists that pollute more than any other country, they hate gays and trans, theyre dont give a fuck about that offended bullshit
>>538499178manipulate market to raise prices, ohh china so strong, market crashes and prices fall, ohh china so strong.
>>538499220200% based
>>538499178kys lying wumao
>>538499454Its called a mixed economy retard
>>538499178why are they spraying water from the rooftops?looks pretty ineffective for irrigation getting a lot of stuff needlessly wetbut it cant possibly be to produce a rainbow either that would be ridiculously wasteful
>>538499178The USA is too weak to argue. Happily our masters shanghai us to the hekin wholesome corn cob wizards.
>>538499277>China is literally operating under fascism thoughSo is the US so why is our housing still expensive?
>>538499525>REEEEE IT'S GOING TO COLLAPSE!!!Two more weeks, right?
>>538499561>pollute more than any other countryWhy do you fags suddenly not know how per capita works anymore?
>>538499658kys lying mutt
>>538499923The US isn't fascist >>538499454>national socialism>capitalism You need to at the very least lurk more. Ideally, read a book and log off discord.
>>538499178doesn't matter what the price is it matters what the price is relative to incomes
>>538500250Memeflag is used to hide the poster's identity.
>>538499452wtf NAZI
>>538499452Literally National Socialism, Hitler won at the end kek
>>538499831To cool down the temperature in the houses
>>538501896It's funny that they keep saying China is crashing, just like they pretended NatSoc Germanys economy was doomed and needed to invade other countries to stay afloat.
>>538499178>houses are for livingLol, yet nobody lives in a house. And when they do, theyre some triad gangster with their own fucking mcmansion right on a beach with fake marble statues. Meanwhile everyone else lives in a hive pen. “Living” Oh and during covid they would literally lock the residents inside the apartment complexes automatically Yeah thats “living”
>>538502802China's home ownership rate is way higher than that of any western nation.
>>538503003>”home”Obviously youve never been anywhere near China lol. There are no “homes” anywhere in that part of asia except for the very super rich, or wealthy foreigners and even then they arent really the way they do things. The closest thing to a a “home” would be a ground floor unit with a garden.
>>538503695Why are you so brazenly lying?
>>538503695You cant even really google a “chinese home” it’ll just show you lots of temples and old historical things. If youve never been there you probably just wont understand. You can have a “home”, sure. But it won’t be what most of us think of as a “house”.
>>538499178China's got some problems but making real estate cheap is a trend that all other countries should follow
>>538503773Because you’re a fucking idiot and I lived in Asia for over a decade? Even back in the early 80s there werent really “homes” for sale. It’s all apartments or it was converted colonial buildings exclusively for foreigners. There’s no “houses” not even in many of the regions surrounding China unless you’re referring to tin shacks and weird concrete blobs with decayed white paint
>>538503899Again>“real estate”What you mean is in fact. A box. Or an apartment if you have a lot of money. Other than that its basically all just generic apartment buildings which is fine but not exactly what people think of when they think of getting on the housing ladder.
>>538503773try google dumbassaverage "home" in china is something comcial like 500 square feetnot even europeans live this poor. the average home size in like germany is still 800 sq feet
>>538499178Chink “housing” isn’t worth shit, just ask the venezuelans under the rubble.
>>538499220China is BASED
>>538499178>Chinese housing prices fall to keep up with the hyper-deflation of their currencyWhoa heckin Communism works. See?! See?!
>>538499178>entire real estate market collapses>"w-we did it on purpose!"Lol, chinks
>>538499178Lol. Find me one single quote from a CCP official saying that BEFORE the housing crash.
>>538499178For those that don't know, the Chinese are all renting their property on leases that can only extend to the maximum of 99 years. You DO NOT own property as an average chinaman. You are doomed to forever be a rentoid.
To further develop the tone basically in Hong Kong the only house I saw was owned by the taipan crime syndicate and it was just a big white painted concrete house with a big gaudy gate around it right smack on a beach owned by gangsters. There was not even a single other house on that island, or anywher else I looked for that matter. All apartments or shacks. And im talking basic bitch apartments with the courtyard at the bottom all concrete and shit and nothing fancy at all. Concrete sweat boxes.
>>538499178>communismA state capitalist system that allows for some free market capitalism as long as it serves the state is not communist. Such systems were called fascist in the past.
>>538504057>affordable homes>NO, we don't do that in Jewish Occupied Territory of America
>>538504221Their property taxes are WAY lower than yours, and eminent domain rules are exactly the same. You don't own your house or land either, you're renting from your government -- at much higher rates than the Chinese!
>>538504221>I le own my homeHave you tried not paying property taxes?
>>538503905Housing doesn't necessarily refer to houses, it can be apartments and there are plenty of apartments.
>>538499220All "communist" countries are after the revolution.the main difference is how much they destroy to get there and how much the jews embezzle before they flee to some other place to do it again.
>>538500739>The US isn't fascistYes it is.
>>538503984Ok, but there are plenty of apartments available and prices are falling and wages are raising so I don't really see the problem.
>>538499178>aktually our housing market failing was all part of the planisn't this just cope for the evergrande collapse?
>>538501070vpn used by amerimutt while projecting and deflecting
>>538499277>China is literally operating under fascism though>>538500739>The US isn't fascist
>>538504221No one truly owns their home in any western nation either.
>>538504363use google to figure out exactly what 500 sq feet is. that is fucking pitiable.i lived in slightly smalerl than that before as a broke college student working min wage and it wasnt even that great. thats coming from a poverty background too that it still sucked lmao
>>538504306Yes but that waters down the claim that all “houses” are for “living” when nobody actually lives in one. And the most common experience for a poor person would just be existing inside a concrete box with lots of floors. Its nothing special bro i dont know why you’re trying to pretend it is. Its fucking box life. And like I said, they are literally allowed to lock the residents inside tbe building. Dont make claims about “living” as if its some utopian real estate paradise. Its scrambling over having a better box underneath a lot of other boxes and no, you dont own shit. Not really in China.
>>538499178>communist country >still exists as a state, uses currency, private property and has social classes
>>538504273>>538504285>you may not own your property, but your property taxes are lowerWhy the fuck are they paying property tax at all given that they do not and will not ever own said property? >muh eminent domainDo you think thousands of people are getting evicted via eminent domain on a daily basis in America? Eminent domain is a theoretical threat that only spergs would resort to in an attempt to "gotcha". Stop gobbling winnie the pooh's balls and just acknowledge that not being able to own your own property at all is the loss of a very basic freedom.
>>538504502When one makes a claim like “houses are for living” they picture you know, independent houses. Gardens. Normal streets. Windows. Grass. Trees. Kids playing on the lawn. You don’t any of that shit there man. If you don’t believe me then its just outside your comprehension because youve never been there and seen just how homogenous and industrialised life is
>>538499178A. China's been lying about their population growth for over a decade B. China has dozens of unpopulated citiesSo yeah, no shit their housing market is in the toilet.
>>538499343That piece of shit glowie owes everthing to China, including his "doctor wife", shameless backstabber.
>>538504397Pick up that book.>An extreme right-wing political system or attitude that is in favour of strong central government, aggressively promoting your own country or race above others, and that does not allow any opposition>central government when the US has state specific law and power >regularly held democratic elections>race (amerimutts lel)
>>538504375>>538504221>akshually in china they pay their taxes only every 99 years and they dont have eminent domain laws for private companies paying off the amerimutt regime to dump datacenters into your garden so it wasnt real housing in my mind>akshually your public plan to curb speculation and redirect investment to sustainable markets is was preemptive timetravel cope for the consquences of your plans executions and we amerimutts werent just pissing into the windWhy are you always replying on multiple IPs with the same Amerimutt disinfo cope to the same OP, Tyrone Greenberg?>inb4 butwhataboutmepredentingtoberetardedanddeliberatelyconflatingandchangingchronologyofmyanecdotes>inb4 whataboutgoalpostmovedtoanothersubject>inb4 nouarethemuttidfshill
>>538499454state capitalism it is then huh
>>538499220absolutely sensational.
>>538504874Do you think China can't tell somebody to fuck off and move somewhere else? It is so fucking weird how 4 different faggots reacted the exact same way with the same vitriol towards the concept of property ownership.
>>538499220>with a hammer and sickle logoThis is what considered to be problematic for the western democracy. Obsessed with hammer & sickle symbolism. You get many nationalists loathe china solely from this symbol alone. It doesn’t matter whether they do right, as long as this symbol stays, it’s good deed is invalidated. It’s like if libtards seeing a wp handsign, jews seeing a swastika, vampires seeing a crossIt will be harder for the world for criticizing china if they change their symbols to others while keeping everything else same. The world now lose the communist bogeyman card to say china bad.
>>538499178Wow a government that serves the interests of the people instead of (((markets))). We can't allow this to continue. Someone call Larry Fink and let him straighten those prices out.
>>538504561>but what if im just deflecting with muh mutt regime "gotchas"Stop slobbering on the orange niggers balls for a moment. Just acknowledge you mutts dont own land in muttland you rent it from the mutt regime on an anual lease until they decide your frontyard is now the powerline for a datacenter everyone votecucked agaisnt at any given day if you are lucky not to get shot for touching some royal park pond or planting some sóy on your rental without a royal loicence.
>>538499277>fascism is when i disagree
>>538499178Property values are not needed to continually grow, they should have speculated in literally any other asset class. Houses are for living. Period. If that bothers you, you should be removed from society.
>>538504621A: Amerimutts have been lying about China for a century and longerB: Nobody takes their lies serious anymoreSo yeah, no shit Amerimutts are seething and coping
>>538505140>>538504874>inb4 whataboutgoalpostmovedtomypersonalfeelings>inb4 nouarethemuttidfshillLike clockwork
>>538504561Dude you literally don't own property. Try not paying your rent to the government and see what happens. The Chinese have a much better claim to ownership than you do. 99% of them don't have to pay property taxes at all.
>>538499178So, uhhhh, can we get some of those houses for living over here?
>>538505452>>538505194>>538505458I asked a simple question. You say Americans can't really own property because of eminent domain, but what protections do the Chinese have if the government needs to build where they live?
>>538500250Thats called voidform.Thank you for showing you have no engineering background. This is different than Chinese companies packing Styrofoam around vertical rebar and parging it to give the appearance of a solid structure. Void form is set to create an intentional gap between the structure and ground to help combat settling and heaving. Hence why you're seeing it on this road construction.tl;dr nice b8 m8
>>538504071DO NOTHINGCOPE
>>538499220>>538499277>when communism works it's fascismI kinda realized a few years ago that China won the 21st century when chuds stopped pretending China is on the verge of collapse and started shilling "China is actually National Socialist" despite the CCP being explicitly Marxist-Leninist and having multiethnic equality and "DEI" ingrained into its laws. Seems like Communism is ascendant in this century when even chuds are admitting it's better than Capitalism.
>>538499923>So is the US so why is our housing still expensive?The US is a neoliberal hellhole like the rest of the west.
>>538499452Based Pooh bear
>>538499178>china >communism They disbanded kholhozes in 1979
>>538500739Under definition of communists fascism is ultimate evolution of a capitalism.
>>538505794That's not "pretending". Communism doesn't work. Any commie country will either start doing the fascist economy or sink to the bottom before being swallowed by the economic jew again. Communism never worked and never will. It's just bullshit propaganda for retards living well in rich countries.
>>538505569Why did all of the pro-Chinese posters leave after I asked this question?
>>538505569> Perhaps the most famous nail house is this one left stranded in the middle of a road in Wenling, in Zhejiang province. An elderly couple refused to sign an agreement to allow their house to be demolished. Many such cases. Buildings are considered property in their own right, and developers can't tell the government what to do, which limits eminent domain in China. Chinese property rights are truly richer and fuller than yours.
>>538499220Except they don’t have no hammer nor sickle on their flag
>>538499277
>>538499178>communism is chink mercantilismTHISTHREADISBAIT
>>538504561the government owns what is called allodial title to the land. you do not own land, you own real estate. big difference. >The Reality of Ownership: Fee Simple Absolute>In the U.S., the highest form of private ownership available is fee simple absolute. While this grants you the most extensive bundle of rights possible (the right to possess, use, sell, and bequeath the land), it is not absolute because it remains subject to four inherent government powers:>Taxation: The government can levy property taxes; failure to pay can result in the loss of the property. >Eminent Domain: The government can seize private property for public use, provided just compensation is paid. >Police Power: The government can regulate land use through zoning, building codes, and environmental laws. >Escheat: If an owner dies without a will and without heirs, the property reverts to the state.
>>538508051>land vs land use>ownership is not absolute with clerks recording property and basic citizen services like fire and police.No shit, this is just "DID YOU KNOW" trivialities.
>>538504561Property taxes are important, but, IMO, from an economic point of view, total government spending is the "real tax" anyway.It's true that China's is a little lower, as a % of national income. China is about 33% vs the US at 37%.From a strategic point of view, for keeping gov. spending down. property taxes are better because they are not hidden,
>>538499178>houses are for living not speculationlow key based affuck speculation on houses, they are for living
>>538500250>>538504391kys lying deceitful wumao communist scum the world would be better without you in it
>>538499178Meanwhile in America
>>538509015No he's right everything in the US is comically low quality
>>538504647he does have a glow about him.his South Africa videos are good. That place is full Thunder Dome.
>>538499178>communismChina has literally nothing to do with your funny >communism memes, it's economy operates largely on capitalist principles.
This sounds great unless you are actually Chinese and for years were forbidden from dumping excess money into speculative assets with the EXCEPTION of real estate. There is a reason that China set minimums for how long housing could drop over a given span of time because there was so much unrest as a result of the market falling. Chinese people are not particularly happy about getting a glimpse of rapid financial gains and having that taken from them. I sound like a shill for capitalism, and I’m not, but this headline is misconstruing the reality of real estate in China.
>>538509126It's true, after covid, housing quality really fell off. It's probably part spic labor, but the people pushing that spic labor are the real problem, too.>spic laborThey more in number and lower skill than the ones who came before.
>>538508414he clearly has no idea of anything, and the correction was validcope
>>538509250hey retard you know chinese investors just dump their money in foreign real estate to jew you because your government doesn't care about you. the chinese government knows exactly how the game is played and they freely let their citizens exploit capitalist economics overseas while being communist at home. there is no chinese investor who is speculating on domestic real estate. why would they when it's much more profitable to buy property in california or canada and 10x it in a few years because whites ruined their own countries?
>massively inflated Chinese real estate market>everyone says it’s a bubble waiting to pop>empty buildings, neighborhoods, and even ghost cities of empty high-rises>CCP continually props it up to save face in front of the gwailo>pops“Acktually, we meant to do that!”>shills launch 1000 threads heralding the genius of communism pottery
>>538509409Hey retard you realize that most people in China are not “Chinese investors” who dump USD into foreign markets, right?
>>538509458This. We were told for decades that ackshually there was no bubble.
>big building = goodBuildings have a good-by date and once that passes it may cost millions to tear them down. Usually its cheaper just to let them become abandoned and pay a fine to the city. These massive buildings are from a by-gone era where you actually needed to be in the office to gain access to resources you didn't have at home. More people live in the city of Beijing than most US states. Take the country pill, live in a house in the wilderness and be happy.
>>538509015i did concrete work and the walkways at simon fraser university are fucked. the columns supporting them are crumbly, you can hit them lightly with a hammer and whole chunks start falling off.then there's olympic stadium on montrealfrom this article:https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-olympic-stadium-problems-1.4397761olympic stadium in montreal is also famous for having concrete just fall off of it.August 1986: Explosions and fire in unfinished tower interrupt Expos game. Nobody injured but game is rescheduled.April 1987: Kevlar roof completed and installed.June 1989: Roof lining rips during tractor pull event, forcing evacuation of about 8,000 people.June 1991: Roof tears during windstorm, leaving gaping hole of 30 metres by 15 metres.September 1991: Fifty-five-tonne beam crashes to the ground, closing stadium for 94 days. No one hurt.August 1992: Riot erupts at Guns N' Roses concert when lead singer Axl Rose ends concert after just 55 minutes. Eight of 300-odd police officers called to the scene receive minor injuries amid clashes with rock-and bottle-throwing rioters who use everything from uprooted street lamp to metal barriers to smash windows.January 1994: Interior wall collapses. No one hurt.January 1998: Ice damages stadium roof, sending snow and water onto floor and forcing cancellation of two Rolling Stones concerts.May 1998: Kevlar roof sold for $1 to company specializing in research and development of industrial machinery. Fixed roof installed.January 1999: Section of nine-month-old roof tears and pieces rain down along with ice and snow on 200 people preparing for an auto show. Five people slightly injured.
>>538509402All you had to say, "legally it's a property tax, but 'defacto,' in reality, it's a use tax."
>>538505794They have massive private corporations. They are not communist by any means. But they do execute their corporate executives when they betray the interests of the state. So they're not capitalist, either. It's called being third position, which is where fascism and national socialism are.>having multiethnic equality and "DEI" ingrained into its lawsIs that why the majority Han Chinese population is demographically replacing everyone else in the country?
>>538499178I really don't know what the fags on 4chan have against China, you faggots worship Shitler so much, but fail to realise how China is literally the State-run-Capitalism success story. Go ahead, post your shit memes, out in the middle of fucking nowhere, when the place has literally 2 billion people living in it. I dont give two shits. They literally built 45,000 km of Rail network in 10 years, what the fuck have we done? Seethe.The Nazis = retarded ethnostate with schizo occult delusionsChina = successful ethnostate and open to the world
>>538504391Saying projection while refusing to show a flag or proof isn't convincing anyone.Anyways here is my Hungarian passport and driver's license. Now it's your turn.
>>538509759>China = successful ethnostate and open to the worldChina is not an ethnostatehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China>Officially recognized ethnic groups receive or have received certain benefits over Han Chinese under the regional ethnic autonomy system, including affirmative action, exemptions from the one-child policy, designated seats in political organs and government support to preserve their culture. Ethnic minority autonomous areas receive additional state subsidies.[5][6] Languages of officially recognized minorities are used in official government documents.[7]
>>538505794What DEI? Have you ever been to Chyna? They are mega-racist by any definition of the word. They make muslims stamp the picture of their prophet in concentration camps and remove black people from movie posters.Read less propaganda you absolute mutt retardo.
>>538509759countries that industrialize later generally have more up to date stuff, why am i supposed to be impressed here? it's harder to replace old infrastructure than it is to build new. so, you're bragging that china came in last in the race, right? why the fuck would i as a white person care about ethno nationalist chinese, how does that benefit me in anyway? you're one stupid faggot. why would anyone commit to long term business in china when china can just do whatever the fuck it wants with the economy whenever it feels like? there's benefits to a dictatorship, but there's also many flaws and the flaws are keeping everyone away
>>538509996Hui Muslims have political autonomy and support, including state-sponsored Mosques. You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>538509653>All you had to say, "legally it's a property tax, but 'defacto,' in reality, it's a use tax.and the power to tax comes from the fact that the land is not owned. and there's other stuff besides taxes, too. you are playing stupid games, and nobody is fooled.>>538509759>I really don't know what the fags on 4chan have against China, you faggots worship Shitler so much, but fail to realise how China is literally the State-run-Capitalism success story. Go ahead, post your shit memes, out in the middle of fucking nowhere, when the place has literally 2 billion people living in it. I dont give two shits. They literally built 45,000 km of Rail network in 10 years, what the fuck have we done? Seethe.they are paid to be here and post these things. and "the people on 4chan" don't have any common ideology, this isn't reddit where everyone just conforms to the monoculture. you must be extremely new. you don't see that 90% of what is posted here is directed by professionals trying to shape opinion in one way or another. lots of nation states, lots of corporations, lots of industry associations, etc. spend enough time here and you will see the psyops.most organic posters here admire china as well as north korea. but again this is a place for people who are extremely weird and autistic, there is more diversity of thought, as well as race, here than most forums do. there is also a trend among the youth to pedestalize china which the us gov wants to interdict or diminish in some way.
>>538509910It absolutely is. It's a multi-ethnic empire ruling over multiple nations. And yet despite that they do almost nothing to placate the non-Han peoples and actively strive to replace them even in their own homelands. Actual Nazis were less ethnonationalistic than the CCP.
>>538510087I'm aware China does a "lease" equivalent on land property, and no legal ownership.But functionally, there is no "opt out" to police services anywhere as far as payment, for example. It becomes like a "rent" defacto anywhere this happens.
>>538510087>there is also a trend among the youth to pedestalize chinano there's not, changyou're going into the concentration camp
>>538510121You fell for the /pol/ propaganda desu. China goes to great lengths to include ethnic minorities. They have a literal system for reserved spots in Chinese universities for minorities. They give minority ethnic groups their own political autonomy within the confines of the CPC and allow them to self-govern with their own laws so long as they aren't in conflict with Marxism. They have entire regions that are basically setup to be dominated by a single non-Han ethnic group in an effort to grow their populations and reduce "Han supremacy".desu anyone that has read Xi Jinping's writings would know this already but I don't expect /pol/ to read. Chinese people as a whole don't really care about the special privileges given to minorities, it's just seen as the right thing to do to maintain cultural diversity within China(and more importantly minimize separatism/regional ethnonationalism that would pose a danger to the government).
>>538509292Basically savages they picked off a boat. Entire corporations rely on "that Chilean kid we found that was 18 and is crosseyed". Nobody says anything because they're all children and think "that's just the quality now" and it erases their standard in their head. They'll complain about property damage before work quality
>>538499658 >>538500250>hey, hey,, (ewe) both have sucky people
>>538510416Unironically, explicit ethnic power sharing is preferable to the proto South Africanization in places like the UK and US.
>>538499178Love China. Love Xi. Wish we could get that here and have a total boomer and jew genocide.
>>538510375>t. specialist ramirez, eglin afb
>>538504397You're one of those cocksuckers. I hope to god the world will be as tolerant of you people as you are of anyone who disagrees with you and have you lined up against the wall for the firing squad like the treasonous pieces of shit that you are.
>>538499178>our economy is in total free fall but this is actually a good thing!
>>538500002Because per capita is a retarded metric when 90% of your population are yak farmers and street shitters when the other 10% are gigga polluting the world through massive freighters, data centers, and manufacturing plants with minimal emission control or enforcement on dumping. Compared to essentially everyone in your population living a baseline quality of life with air conditioning and a car. China, USA, and India are by far the worst in that regard. Especially USA because everyone has a higher baseline, AND they have shitty megacorps that rape the world. No one’s surprised.Fucking retarded faggot.
>>538510508It's just that Chinks have this hang up about "not losing face," and so obviously most of the (((marxist))) ideology is just a ruse.The third worldism is also beneath Chinese Imperial history.
>>538499178Ezra pound social credit works
>>538499178>>communism doesn't wo...Yes. its not real communism.
>>538499831Why are you people always so shocked when you see and hear the dumbass shit china does?You believe it cant be true because china is smart and you believe china is smart because they told you so.
>>538510566why are chinks so mentally ill?
>>53850000280% of china lives in pre-industrial poverty.This isnt the win you think it is.
>>538510643Right, even correcting for purchasing power, and not looking at the distribution, China has a middling income.
>>538504502Get off your high horse, bruce. I’ll take a Chinese city over whatever the fuck this is any day of the week. >>538508720Chinese don’t hardly have property tax at all: You pay 2% of your properties value when you purchase a house and that’s it. There is no yearly property tax afterwards . China doesn’t even do taxes the same way America does: with the annual shit crap we need to go through with the IRS and “reporting our own income”. Chinese don’t pay any “annual taxes” for anything, not even a flat tax. The only tax the average Chinese person has is an income tax that automatically comes out of their paycheck. Besides that, the Chinese government makes their own money because industries are nationalized. So they don’t need to tax their citizens to death like the west does. >>538504221The Chinese government has never denied renewing a lease in its entire history. If it’s between your children not being able to afford property taxes in America and being priced out, or your children in China not being able to renew the “lease” for a couple thousand dollars, it’s a pretty safe bet the Amercians will lose the home before the Chinese. Taxes get higher every year to insane degrees.
>>538504874There are no property rights in china.If the chinese government decides to build a data center on your house, they just boot you out and do it.This is how they are currently building data centers while trying to convince Americans that data centers are bad, because they are falling behind in AI and scared absolutely shitless that america will pull ahead of them again.
>>538510469Apparently, getting a good independent inspector for at least three inspection snapshots is the difference.Most people don't do this.All houses are built now to survive the warranty period, that's it - UNLESS you get a good inspector.
>>538499178>90% of Chinese own their own homes! >90% of Chinese homes values are tanking! >This is a good thing! This is called a real estate crash. Even if you don't have a loan on your house, if you paid more than it's worth now then you lost your ass dummy.
>>538505569They have literally nothing.Imminent domain forces the government to purchase property at market rate.China doesnt even bother, they just take it and if you complain they send you to a labor camp.
>>538509027Well Trump is having to both make housing affordable without turning a family's $500K home into a $300k home keeping the family stuck in that home as they would lose a bunch of money trying to sell it if they decide to move. I understand how helping one group can fuck over the other.Trump is, however, trying to stop the big money investment firms from buying up all of the homes.https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0lxz5wn2yzoNot the best idea, IMHO. I would remove the legal roadblocks that artificially inflate the price of housing.
>>538506160They're wrong
>>538511088Oh no, think of the poor boomers.
>>538511079Specialized contractors are the same thing. What do you do when the GM shows up and says he's "between jobs" and pedro has half your house tore off, lol
>>538510989There are better taxes than others, and the overall tax rate in China, "government spending" is still not "low," Stop shilling."taxing to death"33% in China vs 37% in the US.
>>53851085883.5% of Chinese nationals make $6,000 a year. https://www.stats.gov.cn/english/PressRelease/202601/t20260120_1962356.html#:~:text=In%202025%2C%20the%20median%20of,was%2083.5%25%20of%20the%20average.Whoever says per capita is relevant in the discussion of emissions is a retarded fucking Jew.
>>538509759China is an authoritarian hell state.Go there.Seriously.Stop shilling and just fucking go there.
>>538511252>$6000Nominal numbers mean nothing without purchasing power corrections.
>>538510416Every empire that has ever existed has either had to make concessions to conquered minorities or engage in constant civil war with them until they are gone or at least homogenized. China has no choice but to employ the former or they would get ripped apart by western intelligence agencies. And yet they have still managed to maintain a policy of Han supremacy and, despite your claims, do endeavor to replace their minorities. Them ignoring some random people in Yunan that are already almost Han anyway (for now) doesn't negate them colonizing Tibet, Xinjiang, and inner Mongolia.
>>538511277>China is an authoritarian hell state.How do I know you’ve never left your home state?
>>538511326OK, lets go by access to indoor plumbing then.The majority of mainland chinks practice open defecation like jeets.
>>538511024This is just straight up delusional projection.Eminent domain is specifically an American practice among other nations that the government utilizes. You never own land in America, you rent it via property taxes.In China eminent domain doesn’t exist, you purchase a lease for 100 years with the option to renew. They are particularly known for having residents who refuse to sell their land back, and have infrastructure projects built completely around them instead of being hostile takeovere’d like America does every single day. Property leasees do not pay a forever rent, they have sole say over what happens on their land for the duration of the lease. You are wrong in every single way. Congrats.
>>538511401It's an economically middling country, with the wealth mostly on the coast bring up the overall average, I get it.
>>538506160the funniest thing is that communism is literally fascism, just the other way aroundinstead of the corporations owning the government its the government owning the corporationsbut the end result is the exact same thing
>>538511277Go die in Iran you circumcised faggot.
>>538511401>DA EBIL CHINESE POOPOO IN STREET AND EAT BAT SOUP AN DOG AND NOBODY HAB ANY FREEDOM(no, please don’t look up Chinese language videos of China or ever visit)
>>538499658>Photo predates 2020 crackdown on subpar construction>American houses are built the same way>American infrastructure collapses are both a high rate and more numerous than Chinese
>>538511419CongratulationsYou figured out "activist bullshit"is more of a friend/enemy distinction than anything else.and yes, Chinese are "zero sum game" realists that would prefer the US lose economically.
>>538504397>Fascism is when a police officer is mean
>>538500250Gawd damn you is retarded
>>538511326Being forever confined to your rice paddy and never having the opportunity to travel or experience the world in any capacity means that almost every single Chinese citizen is completely beholden to the ~50,000 people who cause essentially all of the emissions in that entire country for their entire lives with zero recourse. Purchasing power means jack shit if it doesn’t translate to the rest of the world. It’s a global economy and we’re talking about global emissions you tremendous fucking faggot. You don’t get to include everything down to a farming town essentially living in the Middle Ages in those calculations just because the stats become suddenly inconvenient to you. It would take 15 people working a year and giving 100% of their salary up to buy my fucking Japanese tractor.
>>538499178imagine being so fucking stupid you think a communist country would have a goddamn real estate market lmao leftists are so genuinely stupid that they're an existential threat because of the braindead policies they advocate for but don't understand
>>538511613>you cant trust anything the west says its all propaganda.>also if you want to understand the REAL china just look at the videos their government allows people to post to western websites.You are either an idiot or a traitor and should be shot in either case.
>>538499241U vil live in the anthill
>>538499178I remember posts a few months ago about China building housing in places no one wants to live.How much of that affects overall real estate there?Like can adding more vacant bullshit make the market look better when in reality it's still a market nightmare for the places people actually want to be?
>>538511795I don't know why you are so butthurt, giving an outdated economic view of China.Purchasing power really matters, it's a main reasons why expats move if they get marginally wealthy.
>>538511847Traitor to who? kikes? You are a mental midget.
>>538511485Yes, china is two countries in one.You have the coastal cities that function like a developed capitalist state roughly equivalent to Japan or Korea in wealth and development, and you have REAL china which is a communist authoritarian shithole where the people live as one step above slaves.The government only allows information about the first one to leave china, while 80% of chinese people live in the second one.
>>538511694I’m American born, third generation Irish/Chinese.I know more about all of this shit than literally everyone here. I’ve lived in both countries. My family owns Orchid growing businesses in China and were the founding investors of a little company called Baidu. >>538511913You’re retarded. See above.
>>538511937You are a traitor to your people by working to degrade and undermine them on behalf of an authoritarian foreign government.The only question is if you know it or not.I suspect not, which makes you an idiot.
>>538512027I typed>>538511913I don't get what you are trying to say. There's propaganda maxxers on "both sides" in the thread, and I happen to know a lot about China too.
>>538499178>horrible commie towers just waiting to fall over due to being built with fake materials
>>538512143HAHHAAH so long as Jews run the Amercian government, we are a ZIONIST OCCUPIED REGIME and under foreign domination. America does not currently exist. There is no Amercia or “Amercian people” to be undermined.
>>5385122222 more weeks.
>>538499178>real estate companies go bankrupt after creating insane ponzi schemes and fraud>umm ackchully we planned for that to happen!commies are only second in mental retardation to westerners who lived comfortably all their lives and still think communism is better
>>538512368>westerners who lived comfortably all their lives Boomers?
>>538512143Crazy ass Jewish supramacist control the US guberment and are now in the procces of taking over the entire pentagon networks from darpa to the procurement of weapon systems to intelligence so yes you are occupied by someone but it’s not the chinks
>>538512368They are not communist China officially describes its economic model as "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics," often categorized by observers as State Capitalism. It is a hybrid system where the ruling party maintains a firm grip on the political structure and major industries, while simultaneously embracing competitive, private-market principles to drive wealth and rapid growth
>>538505794>chuds stopped pretending China is on the verge of collapse
>>538512725The left can’t meme
>>538509728I know for a fact they actually do have affirmative action for the Wiggers yet then still constantly complain just like the niggers in the US
>>538499178>institutes price controls For The Greater Good>market collapses>liberals learn nothing whatsoeversame as it ever was
Sounds to me like there's gonna be a lot of pissed off chinks that the last 20 years of their lives they spent working and saving was all erased. Wumaos are online shilling for this shit like their friends and family aren't freaking the fuck out over losing all that money they thought they'd have for retirement.I don't think there's a single type of person alive that's more cucked than a wumao who sucks off the CCP's tiny shriveled dick online. What pathetic soulless creatures wumaos are.
>>538499178b-but think on the landlords
>>538513110> Sounds to me like there's gonna be a lot of pissed off chinks that the last 20 years of their lives they spent working and saving was all erased.wtf are you talking about? you sound like an idiot.
>>538504391We already know that anyone with a memeflag running defense for china is a wumao.
>>538499658you know that it's normal to use eps and other filling materials for non-structural concrete, right????
>>538505794https://www.bitchute.com/video/tlbGOTTEb5f1Globohomos love China for a reason and it's not good either.
>>538513238Kill yourself, retard.
>>538513281We know the chinks have an online army of professional liars using VPNs and memeflags to defend china.
>>538513282>EVERYONE invested all their money in property >EVERYONE is angry about a policy affordable housing for young families and the middle-class
>>538502697All conservative opinions (and therefore ALL American opinions since every opinion in America, even "left" ones, are all downstream from conservative liberal democratic economic theory) are based on lying to themselves and the population about what money is and how it works.Conservatives, especially low-end ones who don't exercise power but only consume conservative media, genuinely believe the government needs to "acquire" money from them first before it can spend. That it is not their name on the dollar, but instead is the Treasury Secretary's, doesn't seem to hit home for them.Sovereign country developed markets are not households. They are not businesses. Their balance sheets DO NOT work the same way.
>>538513110Most of the world has state subsidized healthcare so the elderly aren't in constant fear for destitution like in the US
>>538499178>housing are for living>communismThat policy was the norm until about the 1960s when jews decided that gold standards were holding back their profits. Nothing to do with marxism, under marxism your home is a mass unmarked grave.
>>538513342External EPS insulation is actually an Eastern European thing that spread west.We use it in Brazil because it's by far the best way to insulate your home without exposing yourself to the material.While we breathe pure air, you are breathing formaldehyde-rich air...
>>538513509>another dumb fuck moron from a resource poor island that has been deindustrialized thinks a magic shiny rock is the solutionit's so painful to read. it's so painful.
>>538511380china's entire history is about civil war and retarded political decisions and when it's not civil war it's them getting conquered by minority groups
>>538513507There are poor old beggars in china too, there's no social safety net or free healthcare for them.
>>538499452holy based
>>538505251Look up Dirigisme
>>538513110Housing prices falling down is only bad news to jews.People who live in their houses don't become homeless. It doesn't matter to them. People who couldn't afford a house, now can.Only Shlomo is angry.
>>538505794>truth-pilledChina won long times ago. Normies are on Bargain stage. Still need 10 years for Normies to learn about the privileged Autonomous Zones. Then 10 more years to learn the truths about Korea.
>>538510494>>538511677>>538513281>>538509126>>538509632What part of kys lying communist wumao is so hard for you insects to understand? You lying pieces of shit are lower than roaches.
>>538514556You aren't refuting my point that the US has incredible low quality construction by posting pictures from China
>China is based and tradACK
>>538514556Are there dates for when those pictures were taken? All in a year or was it over a decade?
>>538499220Fpbp, based
>>538514638Yes. 14 is the age of sexual maturity, at which the clock starts ticking. Stay mad Karen
>>538499178Communist nations don't have housing markets
>>538514638Its the same in Germany
>>538511380>American historian>China is a very young country
>>538514556those are sinkholes.It has nothing to do with building quiality. This shit plagues every other city that has deep limestone deposits. The water slowly erodes literal tunnels in the limestone, and one day it just fall down.Pic related is in Brazil. One of the biggest in the world.
>>538514842If that’s the game you want to play then you must acknowledge America as a continuation of the European empires.
>>538514638No wonder Zion Don is mass importing young Chinese students lol
Their economy also won't fail because it's not built upon pumping speculative value of assets.They actually manufacture things rather than have a deindustrialized service economy that's flooded with migrants.
>>538499277American criticism is just "China bad because X" only to find out that America is actually the one doing X.
>>538514832>Soviets were not communistsanon...reality is more weird you think.
>>538499220>DEINot the URSS, not North Kore and not China, hahahahaha this liberal Copium is bullshit DEI isnfrom your side
>>538508781But imagine Socialdemokratiet saying the exact same thing, and imagine whether you still believe them on their word or not.China wants the state to be the lessor, not the private market, which is pretty much all his statement boils down to. There are cities in China with in-home surveillance where you have a QR code on the kitchen wall if you own a knife, and occasionally security will lawfully enter your home to check if you comply with the mandatory ID checks for knife owners."State" will never replace ownership. State is always just authoritarianism.
>>538499220Precisely why ZOG media presents them as the ultimate bad guy. Nothing kikes hate the idea more of than a National Socialist state with nukes that can compel them to keep their greasy noses out of their affairs. Which is why we're at war with Iran.
>>538515027>American historian>China is a very young country
>>538514354It's only bad for those already invested, since WW2 the economy has been stacked like a ponzi scheme designed to only function for people who were invested earlier.1970 was when the wheels came off and US wages stopped growing. 50 years of this and the only way people gained money was through the value of their assets which they could leverage.
>>538499178Lol, they let people put all their life savings in to these tofu blocks, and now they are going to pull the rug on them, everybody in the chinese middle class is going to lose his savings.
>>538513238He knows what he’s talking about. Tons of Chinese people invested in real estate as a long term investment, and the market cratering means they LOSE money. Not hard to understand.
>retards ITT
>>538515416>housing should get more and more expensive forever like a Ponzi schemeThis only works when you have mass immigration and constant population growthIn other words western countries are permanently destroying their demographics and turning themselves brown so that one generation of boomers can profit
>>538499178>he takes the Chinese govt’s word at face value Actual fucking retard
>>538515344If they weren’t they wouldn’t have adopted western attire in the highest positions of their power structure.
>>538515639Anon why exactly do you think it’s called REAL estate?
>>538515515You are retarded because you mistake a single successful element of governing with total victory of the governance
>>538515515It always do be like that. Quite frankly the read scare has been a disaster for the american people as it has convinced them that things that would benefit them as a whole is bad because>Its communism!
>>538516083>that would benefit them Citation needed.
>>538505794>multi ethnic equality>Han supremacists>Muzzie concentration campsFaggot lmao
>>538499178>that's not real communism. >There are no gays and immigrants and trans rights. >They still have borders and restrict the flow of people moving in and out of their country freely. The faggots who argue that china isn't a communist state are faggots who are upset that china is not liberal enough for them and therefore not communism.
>>538514556Spotted the street shitter lmao, get juggernauted
