NYC Buildings EVACUATED After Support Columns Buckle at Former Pfizer HQ??someone hiding something?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu9zE4rR0d4
>>538514403>elect a mudslime mayor >skyscrapers immediately start falling overPottery
>>538514403steel and glass buildings have an expected lifespan of just 80 years, you can expect a lot more of this going forward
>>538514403>pull it
>>538514403Challah dreg construction.>>538514482Muslims didn't do 9/11, retard.
>>538514403thanks poodani
contractor is so fucked
You think this is just American Tofu building? or something else on?
Feed me (You)'s
>>538514574>Muslims didn't do 9/11, retard.Who flew the Jewish mission retard?
>33rd floornicegot itsecret handshake on the way out
>>538514747>son of holocaust survivor
>>538514693mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense.
>>538514403>no jet fuel needed
>>538514497Ive been waiting for this for a long time.They just build more and more, taller and taller without any thought of hiw to deal with them as they age.Fun times ahead.
>>538514403That is terminal. That building is coming down.
>>53851491333>3333>33
If that's happening near the top floors what's' happening on the lower floors?
>>538515020Now it's rain they are blaming.
>>538515020Harley guy. September Clues!!
>>538514497Just turn them into condos...
>>538515419Rain fuel cant melt steel beams
>>538514403that shit is barely even considered steel anymore half rust at least lmao
>>538515059>>538515410They were renovating the building from office to residential. They must have either made some major structural modification and it went wrong. They may also have stockpiled construction material and overloaded the beams. I’m leaning towards the first because you’d have to really try hard to overload a floor beam like that.t. Structural engineer
>>538514913>>538515188It's pedophile Jews and freemasons destroying evidence and doing insurance fraud. The only solution is mass hanging of freemasons and their families for treason in Minecraft.
>>538514403>sloppy jobThe Tel Aviv school of arts really needs to overhaul their bomb rigging course.
>>538515577Isn't residential plumbing and fixture significantly more dense compared to office plans with shared bathroom and far fewer sinks/drain/shower etc...
>>538514747it's all so tiresome
>>538515481That’s what happening all over the country. I’ve done a few myself. Major issues are>complete renovation of plumbing system >complete renovation of HVAC system>complete renovation of electrical system>upgrade fire egress to meet current requirements >probably new or majorly reconfigured elevators Basically all you can save is the building structure and envelope. Everything else has to be totally reworked.
It was me. Greetings from >>>/x/ and /ng/
>>538515127Let's wait and see if any jewish landlords have a valid insurance policy on the building before we go jumping to any conclusions, anon.
>>538515481canada’s smartest voooooter
>>538515748Yes. You need to 100% redo all plumbing, electric and HVAC.
>>538514540"American Steel" quality.Shoulda kept buying the good Steel from the Canadian frogs.Instead of rebranding Chinese Steel like everyone else in North America (or the whole world) does.
>>538514403odd-looking rust. Looks artificially caused, almost like to cause an accident and claim insurance.>>538514747and there it is.
>>538515806The jewish landlords all around are going to be howling based on the evacuations. Those may drag on a long time and put a lot of people out of business.
Due to the risk of collapse of a nearby building: All employees of the Israeli Consulate in New York have been evacuated. The Consul General, Ophir Akunis, stated: "I have instructed that alternatives be examined in order to resume normal operations as quickly as possible."
>>538515902It’s fire protection coating that has broken off
>>538514747>>538514913Fucking jews man
finally a proper happening again been a whilehow they ever going to fix this or acess the situation
I used to work on the 25th floor of a NYC building and the scariest moment of my life is when we had a mini quake and the building swayed I thought I was going to die. Fun fact part of the BQE is scheduled to collapse in 10 years and no one gives a fuck and the longer they wait the messier it will get to fix and there is no non messy fix
>>538514747Hahaha hahaha they are so lucky to have escaped!If this is on your Wikipedia page, you are a sociopath and usurious, period.
>>538516027Structural will evaluate what happened and why. There would already be engineers who designed the renovation and they would be the first to get the call. The city will certainly have their own engineers out there, and probably a third party engineer, as well. The issues are>what happened?>why?>is there potential for additional collapse? >is this a localized issue, or does it compromise the overall integrity of the building?>how do we repair?>what is the timeline?
>>538514826Deep undercover mossad operators, mostly. Do you really think literal 60 IQ sandniggers could have done precision flying that even John Lear (famed test pilot and owner of Learjet) thought her couldn't do?Average IQ of 75 means they are unable to care for a pet because they can't comprehend not feeding it equals starvation. They can't be trusted with a shopping list above five items.
>>538515577>eh load bearing, that's just a suggestionkek
>>538514403>Former Pfizer HQPhew, it was not built in china.
>>538515917So many ways to think about this..Did the jews lose power and are sabotaging the city as revenge? Or did the jews know the city was a write off so they let a patsy be installed to take the fall? Or has everyone in NYC just become too greedy and incompetent for there to be any future there?
>>538516194Competency crisis strikes again!
>>538514826There weren't any planes fucktard
Fuck it!! Rolling for total Building Collapse!
>>538514826Good question
>>538516194We once had a sub cut right through a steel beam that was concealed in the floor he was standing on. Luckily, there was enough redundancy in the floor system that nothing happened besides his dumb ass being thrown off the job.
>every ITT acting like building codes, inspections and structural engineers dont existare you all cambodians with VPNs or what?
>steal beams >STEAL Wait a minute. Is that how they brought down those towers? How did they hide all that metal, though?
>>538516237That depends on whether they were doing major structural modifications and fucked up or whether they somehow overloaded the floor during the work. One thing is for sure, a lot of jewish lawyers are going to have a field day.
>>538516340They do. That’s why this story is interesting. This doesn’t happen very often.
seems like jews were planning something but got caught
>>538514403To much jewish lightning, now it's jewish earthquakes. Kike building owner and kike rental manager did the numbers and they would loose a few shekels with the new rent control, but having an emergency situation of a building being structurally compromised allows them to milk demo and construction loans and grants.
>>538515577Explain how this happened please
>>538515577You are not a structural engineer. The beams are fine. Its the columns that are buckling. Stolen valor.
>>538516448that nist model is the most retarded fakest and gayest thing ever
>>538515188>>538514913>>538515595every FUCKING time
>>538516512
>>538516493The news reports all said “beams”. I am well aware many people do not understand the difference. If columns are bucking it’s much more likely they did some major “surgery” on the building as part of this renovation and it went wrong.
>>538516434We did it /pol/!!
>>538515943???False flag incoming
>>538516588>>538516448pure coincidence, goy
>>53851644850,000 lb commercial AC system falls through the entire building.
>>538516631all these news reports you watched and you somehow don't know they were adding 16 floors to the top of the building.
>>538514403Whose mom is responsible of that ?
>>538516872I’m at work now, Bucko,. I just read some quick summaries and they said beans
>>538515943Hmmm>>538516739This.
>>538514403Can anyone with engineering or construction knowledge say if it’s even possible to repair the damage?
>>538517742No
>>538514403column 2 of 2
>>538514403insurance fraud?
>>538517844with that much bend i surprised it didn't just collapse
>>538514403and here is pic of the Building Director of Engineering in NYC
>>538514403FAKEFAT FUCKS CAN'T BEND STEEL BEAMSINSURANCE SCHEME BY LARDASS LARRY?
JET FUELCANTMELTSTEELBEAM
>>538517742It’s still unknown what the damage really is. Reports of some buckled “beams” (really columns) are all I’ve seen yet. They were probably doing some structural modification that went wrong. It’s probably repairable, and it will probably take a very long time and cost a lot of money. Entire companies will go out of business over this and a lot of people will lose big time. The only winners will be the lawyers.
>>538514403Gravity is getting stronger
>>538517915>with that much bend i surprised it didn't just freefall collapse the entire buildingbut that's what they'd have you believe for the WTCs
>>538517915Enough redundancy in the adjacent framing.>>538517844Did they hit it with a crane or something? That’s a total failure.
>>538514403Some prankster must've swapped the steel cleaner in the sprayer with jet fuel.
>>538514403so.. it turns out poos were stealing the building structural material.
>>538518112
>>538517742All damage is repairable. The question is it feasible either in effort or cost. In NYC the answer is no. Somewhere else maybe. It would require an analysis and an engineering team to design supports to lift the building back into place and support it until the structure can be repaired and/or replaced.
If it does fall. I hope it collapses neatly into it's own footprint.
>>538517844LMAO, the shitskins moving the cable spools lost control of one. 1500-2000 pounds of spool is enough to cause that I-beam to fail.
>>538514403My steel beams are melting on their own!
Controlled demolition seems too risky if it could collapse at any time as well. Maybe you could fly in the charges with drones but I kind of doubt it - they all need to be wired together with det cord to synchronize and that seems a very hands on operation.
>>538518046>The only winners will be the lawyers.Courts in America exist to Jews can extort people.
>>538515020Why did you leave this part out?>So then, about 15-20 minutes later, the first building starts to collapse. You could just look at it. It's starting to melt. Ah, you know, molten metal* is just pouring out. Pouring out of the corner of the building. I'm going, oh, this is it, this thing's going down.*Jet fuel can't melt steel beams>B-but they didn't melt! They just lost strength!
>>538518113Kek
>>538514403Sorry guys, i got mad and punched the beam. I'm just strong as fuck like that.
>>538515577From the picture in the OP it's clearly the severe corrosion that caused the column to fail.t. local drunkard
>>538515020An uncontrolled fire cannot break main support beams at the right timing to cause a vertical collapse. It would fall sideways. Vertical collapse only happens with intentional demolition. Shut up Jew.
>>538514403Any reports of dancing israelis?
>>538516159Don't forget>how much will it cost
>>538518923they were dancing on the roof when the beams gave way
>>538514497The USA has been coasting on buildings and infrastructure that we build 50+ years ago and refuse to update or replace because thats expensive. That ancient infrastructure is reaching its breaking point, so a lot of stuff is going to start hitting critical failure at roughly the same time in the next 10 years.A plumber friend of mine goes all the time on how we're 10 years out from not having functioning newer systems in half the country because we keep putting off doing the replacements until they completely fail, and there literally are not enough plumbers in the country to keep everything working once it all starts to go.
>>538516448Easy, buildings are suppose to stand up. What you see here is the building failing to do thatT. Civil engineer
>>538518817I don’t think that’s corrosion.I think that’s old fireproofing that has spalled off.
>>538518974That, and>who’s fault is this?
>>538519130>who's fault is this?IRAN!!!
>>538518685Jet fuel doesnt burn hot enough to melt steel. Everything burning + jet fuel in an enclosed space reaches temperatures hot enough to melt steel
>>538514500BLESS US, LUCKY LARRY BLESS US, O' MIGHTY PULLING ONE!
>>538518923OP's mom was twerking on the floor above.
>>538519104Idk man, that thing is browner than op's mom.
>>538519130Im putting money on the contractors. Im sure the design was changed some, but I know those guys were sticking stockpiles up there. I bet they have a gppd crane access point somewhere above that beam
>>538519202Sure except the fires were oxygen starved which is why there was so much smoke.
>>538514403Maybe a really small part of a plane landed there on 9/11 and now it's going down...
>>538515773What do you suggest?>>538519202Steel fails long before it's liquid. Long before it's notably plastic when under load.
>>538519284Water can get behind the coating and cause rust for sure. But that alone wouldn’t cause multiple column failures.>>538519311It’s probably a combination of things. The main question now is were they doing major structural modifications or just an interior renovation?
>>538519499It’s only feasible to renovate buildings from office to residential with major government subsidies. Historic tax credits, HUD, something. Otherwise it’s just not economical.
>>538515577They were adding 14 floors.Its a communist scam by the Maor/city to build shitskin housing so am sure corners were cut on engineering and planning.
>>538515059Why do you think they're moving all the degenerates into NYC and moving all the money out of it?
>>538514403ok now I am starting to believe that the world trade centers collapsed because of the planes mossad and cia flew into them, american egineering is just that shit
>pfizer HQ magically collapsingthe ride truly never ends
>>538519382Congratulations you regurgitated some trivia information. Who gives a shit, smoldering fire(without oxygen) is nearly hot enough to melt steel. You really shouldn't fall for the sheep youtube bullshit
>>538519499No shit, heat goes up, strength goes down. All im saying is that you could melt steel with a fire. Especially one thats burning out a building thays insulated and trapping heat
>>538519509Another building that was standing because it was a whole form, not because it was built to stand?If I was a criminal, I'd take the insurance before spending millions to try to rent into Mandami's NYC. But we've gutted our engineering and construction capacity, it's just as possible the browns they hired did something stupid.>>538519575Well, there's another way to go about it. Force office buildings by code to create floor supports, sewer and water availability that would enable a simpler transition. That could reduce the number of firms who can afford, and reduce the design options, which I suppose is also a bad thing. It could also give a nice niche to certain arch and building firms.
>>538514403Saaaaaar status??
>>538519631>They were adding 14 floors.Damn. That’s a lot of floors. I’d hate to be the engineer who sealed that.
Btw bricks are falling off the building and it is swaying back and forth. It could fall at any moment.
>>538514540>american build quali-ACK
>>538517742It's fucking ogre
>>538514403Why can't America build anything properly?
>>538519933browns, women, brown women
>>538514497My tiny 1 bedroom brick shack in rural SE KYs mountains been sitting here since 1916. Some distant relative I can't even remember the name of built it and the only renovations it's had are electric and water pipes installed at some point, my grampa replacing the old roof with a tin roof back in the 1990s. It'll be here sitting long after I die, being lived in by one of mine or my siblings great grandkids.Jews in New England are literally worse at building long standing structures then my illiterate hillbilly ancestors were over 100 years ago.
>>538519915It can be fixed. The price depends on how bad it is. Maybe its a junk beam and gave under a load it should take. You'll have to build a jack system to lift the building back up (it looks like 3ft, but I cant really tell) and swap it out. Its gonna be a big job and cost a lot, but its something we can do. Well, we use to could do
>NYC Department of Buildings filed a construction safety complaint against the developers on Tuesday, citing a lack of approvals for foundation work at the property.
>>538519933
>>538515943Obviously jews digging their underground child rap tunnels have weakened the buildings structure.
>>538519966>66>>538519933>33Youre complaining about a steel beam that failed on one building out of millions of buildings that are used by 100s of millions of people. Some times shit just goes wrong. But you two are so fucking negative and childish that youve got to point the blame somewhere. >inb4 brown
>>538519758>smoldering fire(without oxygen) is nearly hot enough to melt steel>NearlyOk retard. You can't nearly melt something, its either hot enough to melt or it isn't going to melt.>Open air burn temperature of hydrocarbon fire: 1832°F to 2192°F>Melting point of A36 steel: 2590°F to 2670°FJet fuel CAN'T melt steel beams.
>>538514403It won't be long. Water in the news is the beginning if the end
>>538520032Maybe. The shift of weight will be stressing columns all over teh building now. It almost looks like a box, and like the box was sucking in water from above somewhere. And if that's true, and if the box continues through the floor, then this could be the entire support on that side, from top to wherever it hits the lower frame (if it does).
>>538515059>They just build more and more, taller and taller without any thought of hiw to deal with them as they age.they will deal with them just like they did with the three wtc towers: with controlled demolition>>538515188
>>538519833>Force office buildings by code to create floor supports, sewer and water availability that would enable a simpler transition.You might as well ban office buildings entirely, since no one would pay for any of that.
>>538520179>Open air burnwhoopsie, I think I see why you're retarded. The dog your mom fucked wasn't a Malamute, just a random scruff. If only she had better taste, you might have made it past 1st grade.
>>538520039But you dont understand the Mayor promised free homes to niggers. Nobody wants to tell the street shitting ugandan communist supreme leader no.
>>538520314They would have 50 years ago. They might not now.I dunno, a city that has a reliable sky-line, safe buildings, and a property that has a higher resale, these are options for a people to consider.
>>538520221Its a box column, no it doesn't go all the way through it sits on a beam attached to the column below it.
>>538515577>They were renovating the building from office to residential. They must have either made some major structural modification and it went wrong. They may also have stockpiled construction material and overloaded the beams. I’m leaning towards the first because you’d have to really try hard to overload a floor beam like that.>t. Structural engineerthey were building taller without modifying and bolstering any of the lower foundational elements, that's my understanding. and the steel workers weren't union
>>538520407Most development construction projects are just barely profitable as it is. Adding on extra requirements like that would just kill the market. No one would be able to charge high enough to justify the construction cost. And the commercial office real estate market is already pretty much fucked.
Its amazing how illiterate european immigrants a hundred years ago could build better buildings than these morons running NYC today.
basically all skyscrapers swing in the wind. the super tall ones have to build active countermeasures to this or people would get sea sick. the steel is moving all the time. from wind and temperature. if you wait for long enough all the tall building will fail like this, effectively nothing from our era or generation is likely to survive into the future. its all so fragile it will all turn into dust. see thats why the pyramids are so genius. they can not collapse, their natural state and their collapsed state are the same, thus they last thousands of years.
>>538520491I’d be really interested to see how they justified adding all that extra load to the columns and foundations. I do this stuff for a living and even adding a single floor is something that is very carefully considered.
>>538520355So a smoldering fire is hotter than an open air fire?Do you understand what open air means in the context of fires?Did you graduate highschool or get a GED?
>>538519631>Its a communist scam by the Maor/city to build shitskin housingIt's being converted into luxury apartments.
>>538514540We tofu dreg now
>>538520648>It's being converted into luxury apartments.*was being converted If this is half as bad as it seems, this project is deader than dead
>>538515059>without any thought of hiw to deal with them as they age.Thats someone elses problem, duh.
>>538514500ust make sure his huge insurance pollicy is in place first
>>538516631>The news reports all said “beams”.since the columns are made of what is colloquially referred to as I-beams you now get it.
>>538520546Pyramids are not impressive when you see them in person. It just looks big in pictures.The same with the Colleseum in Rome, its just a rinky dink little set of walls the size of an ice skating ring.
>>538520694Modern buildings are designed with a 50 year life expectancy. That doesn’t mean they turn into a pumpkin after 50 years, but it’s assumed they will be replaced by something new after that time.
>>538517987retarded arabs can't fly cessnas let along boeing 757s after 1 lesson
>>538514958You should really read this interview with General Remer.>link: see "Interviews" tabhttp://www.mourningtheancient.com/index1.htm
>>538520491>the steel workers weren't unionOh ho ho ho, someones getting buttfucked over this one. Ha ha ha, I don't envy them.
>>538519499>Steel fails long before it's liquid. Long before it's notably plastic when under load.no one argues this. the question is why was there molten steel? you're dodging
>>538514403>steal beams buckleCan't make this shit up
>>538520748But the hardest part of flying is takeoff/landing. They just had to steer.
>>538520548Can you access this?https://a810-dobnow.nyc.gov/Job#: M01075133
>>538520774>>538520491>non union How is that even possible in NYC? Where’s the giant inflatable rat?
>>538514403It’s normal for American steel to bend and melt in a hot summer day.
>WAAAIIIIIIT WAAAIIIIIIT THE PLANES ARE NOT YET HERE!!!!
>>538520648>luxury aparmentsOk retard.20% of all new apartments in NY have to go to welfare parasites. Then they blast rap music.all night, rape and pillage, and all the decent folks move out and shitskins move in.
>>538520020Based great, great, grandpappy and Shack pilled
>>538519933>Why???Because we live in WEIMAR LAND !!!!
>>538520740steel structures will rust and collapse sooner or later. Its like my Ford car. You get 10 years out of a car up here before the fucking paint starts to bubble.
>>538518214Cameraman is very brave or very stupid.
>>538520512>Most development construction projects are just barely profitable as it iThe cost is on the buyer, not the developer. Market bears what market bears and access to the US east-coast within walking distance to the port and all of NY will bring buyers. I think more likely, for a time, you'd see simpler structures. Someone would want the location enough to match it. And once it's there, the extra sound proof and floor security is also a selling point. You can have your entire floor screaming about the market and the people above and below can't hear a thing. Toilets abound so the boss can powder his nose with the secretary in any number of hallways.>>538520783I'm not dodging, the partially closed structure worked like an open air furnace, the fuel burned in a contained space. The bodies of the passengers and their goods burned, and I have no idea what was in the freight section.If you want to argue the point, I have zero doubts that the US (((banksters))) hired Mossad boys to finish up some work in the ME; to hook the US on the Israeli drip.
>>538519130Clearly capitalism
>>538521065What you say is true, but is point out that the Manhattan real estate market is hardly typical. Where I work we are still dealing with some empty skyscrapers that have been vacant for years. One got sold for the value of a nice single family home recently, since it’s basically worthless.
>>538519631Import the turd whirl, become the turd whirl.
>>538519202it doesnt need to melt itjust softening it is enough
>>538521165Everyone loves winner aura. A building that can survive for 100 years, the latest and greatest with all the amenities? Just takes an agreement to skip a yacht BJ from a coastie roastie clinger and get a BJ from an uptown cheerleader instead. Priorities. Think of how many whales you'll save not burning all that oil and gas building new towers?
>>538514403Complex systems will not survive the competence crisis. Don't expect the women, blacks, & browns to maintain your complex systems the same way white men do. Enjoy your future Chinese tier collapsible construction
>>538521314Right, yeah totally.So where did the molten (liquid) metal come from?
>>538520546>their natural state and their collapsed state are the samealso explains how they were built with more primitive tech
To think that back in the early sixties when I was a little boy I'd dream of being the man in the grey flannel suit and take a commuter rail with a bar car to and from work in an office in Manhattan. Maybe even in the Pan Am building.But it's not even the Pan Am building anymoreoThose days are so over...
>>538521449figure it out yourself, its just material physics
>>538514403TOP KEK
IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED IT COLLAPSED
>>538514403Pull it
We need to reset things back to 1958-1962.
>>538514482Shalom
Need to make a decision soon, storms coming in this weekend.
JET FUEL MELTS STEAL BEEMS25 YEARS LATER
>>538518974>Don't forget>(((how much will it cost)))
>>538516448Controlled demolition.
>>538521559>should not be possiblei hate you normies with your>we must not let the public panicit is built such that it SHOULD be impossible to collapsethat is more truthful, honest and tells everybody to bear personal responsibilitythere are no guarantees in the real world
This is 3rd world tier shit Ameribros...
>>538514482Fpbp
>>538519056THANKS JEWS. Maybe we can turn Jews into a new form of sewage piping.
Thu 09 Partly cloudy early with thunderstorms becoming likely during the afternoon. High near 85F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60%. Thu Night Scattered thunderstorms during the evening, then mainly cloudy overnight. Low 73F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 50%.>FridayPartial cloudiness early, with scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. >Storms may contain strong gusty winds. High 88F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50%.>Fri Night Scattered thunderstorms in the evening with a few showers possible late. >Storms may contain strong gusty winds. Low 71F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40%.These faggots will absolutely drag their feet in fear of not having insurance pay for it. Get your fucking drones in there, get the survey done before dark tonight. Make a fucking decision before 9am tomorrow.
>>538514403surely its the heat and not the lack of maintenance causing corrosion and rust
>>538521970Jews are nigger gypsy Semites. What do you expect?
>>538514497>not my problemEvery architect for something that might happen after they die.
>>5385144039/11 was just skimping on construction cost, huh?
>>538522035>heatwe all know whats really going on here
>>538515943
>>538520133>inb4 on your own postGet out election tourist brown faggot
>>538516237
So they started building more floors on top of the building and it couldn't handle the weight? Who the fuck green lighted this shitshow?
>>538522018>get the survey done before dark tonight. Make a fucking decision before 9am tomorrow.The city cannot have the surrounding buildings vacant forever (or can they?).
>>538521640Is this real?
>>538514747>born 1953 or 1954How the fuck would this not be known? My family knows when each ancestor was born going back three hundred years.
>>538514403Oy vey get rid of the evidence that we poisoned the goyim!
>>538521842Thank you lisp anon.
>>538522301Tunnel jews still cutting kids in half underground. Man America really did get transmuted from the paradise it once was to modern day Babylon.
>>538522126>Jews are planning a planeless 911.>It's an act of G-d, you stupid goyim! You should have supported Israel!
>>538520633you're not going to transfer enough BTUs in an hour's time to weaken steel with jet fuel that was mostly all burned up in the initial explosionnot even fucking close
>>538521029>You get 10 years out of a car up here before the fucking paint starts to bubblethis happens when you drive around in the salt all winter and never wash your vehicle
>>538521065>the partially closed structure worked like an open air furnacethis is a fake and gay statement on par with Mark Walsh tier bullshit
>>538514497False. Skyscrapers last forever and monetize what was previously worthless - the sky. Hence why NYC is nothing but tall buildings and is the apex of human civilization.
>>538522593>nothing traps heat, steel floors and concrete wrapped steel beams aren't at all materials that reflect heat. stop acting like you can melt an aluminum can with wood fire, that's just off the wall crazy!it's hard to not be dumb.and yeah, your mother is proud of you.
>>538520020New York is not part of New England retard
>>538522691>the heat just got reflected around and around until the buildings came downwe've got pictures that btfo you, in case you never knew
>>538522719>York and Jersey aren't in BritainDamn Right. New Frankfurter is the only Island for me!Oh wait, technically New Amsterdam...
>>538514540They didn't install the load bearing paint yet, it'll be fine.
>>538521502So you don't know but you're still an expert? Thats fun, sweet memeflag too faggot.Shills used to at least be creative; you could have tried "friction from the collapse melted the steel" or "the shape of the building acted like a blast furnace".
>>538522802You have an imaginary scapegoat that you wish you could blow, and I've known it for years.Also, you're one of those guys who thinks SpaceX doesn't need heat shields on the engines cause there's all that airflow, right?
>>538516448>>538521922That building housed SEC case files for several thousand fraud investigations that suddenly could no longer be investigated. Whoops!>>538519202Steel doesn't need to melt just weaken and it stops being able to bear the same load.
>>538522966They did end up getting Madoff, but mostly because one of his plays burned some jews when the market fell apart.
>>538522691Asymmetric damage does not cause symmetric collapse
>>538522691>Trapped heat gets hotter than the fire emitting it!Yeah, thats not how that works.
>>538522872>didntmany such cases
>>538515059Nothing in our society is designed to last. And they're not fixing shit. I don't think it's incompetence or oversight. Deterioration is the plan, depopulation is the goal.
>>538523045>the universe doesn't draw straight lines, or right angles>except when it does, but you have to ignore crystals, light paths, and shockwave physics because I never say anything hyperbolic!Wind does not cause pink paint. But when someone is painting with pink, and it's windy, don't worry, pink is an anti-wind agent!
When is the building collapsing?
>>538514482Poo hands typed this
>>538522661>flagso it must seem from the potato fields of latvia>>538522912>v2a>v4a>sae 316i know enough to know those definitely arent the steel types they used
>>538523134>i don't understand the difference between point temperature and area temperature, but trust me, I know things about water and ice, I'm a phase change Expert, blud. >on the streets, they call me Latent Heat, cause I'm always late to work sucking off fat old men.At this point, we're killing this thread, right?
>>538520179Nigger, I said nearly and thats by itself. What every single video you've watched fails to include is the concrete oven the fire was in. Here, why dont you walk us through a scenario where we look at thr change in ambient room temperature with an active fire. DONT use ai, youll just say that its programmed to lie. Use your own numbers for starting ambient temperature, fire temp, and room size. This way you can prove it to yourself.
>>538520633That depends. Is the smoldering fire inside an insulated concrete oven? In that case, yeah you'll get much higher temperatures than a field fire
>>538522248yes
>>538521314I know it doesnt need to melt. Im just saying that in certain circumstances you can melt it with fuels that arent suppose to get hot enough to normally melt it
>>538514403>Expansion: The project involves adding 19 stories to the existing 10-story tower at 219 East 42nd Street, creating a 29-story structure, while gut-renovating the 33-story tower at 235 East 42nd Street.What the fuck.
>>538514747
>>538523201Incoherent
NYC Building Collapse general when?
>>538524038here let me save you a click
>>538524142and because were having so much fun
>>538522928>You have an imaginarylook at this projecting ass mother fucker project that it was le blast furnace up there and then try to tell me I'm fucking imagining things
>>538523339>concrete oven>the building is 90% windows which were broken out where the fire wasShut up, retard.
>>538523799Yes. The argument was a false premise, ipso incoherent.Saying>Nuh-uh!isn't really an argument.>>538524264Did you sample what was dripping? You might be right. It would help alot if you sampled what was dripping.Me, I want to sample Dancing Israelis more than I want to sample the stuff pouring out of the "art work."
>>538522966>That building housed SEC case files for several thousand fraud investigations that suddenly could no longer be investigated. Whoops!most notably, enron & worldcomm
>>538524383Do you just not understand that buildings have interiors? Its not a glass cube
>>538523201>I can win by making fun of the people that point out holes in the shit I believe
>>538516291Holy fuck lmao
>>538524383>I don't normally melt cans in the fire, but when I do, I huff the paint fumes, HARD!>>538524566>I can pretend I said something that wasn't a fallacy if I pretend you're not responding to imaginary claims of failureExcept it's still imaginary failure. Why are we so interested in killing this thread today?Worried people are remembering Israelis being good dancers all of a sudden?
>>538524527Name another steel and concrete skyscraper that collapsed due to a fire. Protip: you can't.
>>538524741Excepting Mossad is to blame, and they're all over the east coast and DC.
>>538523339>What every single video you've watched fails to include is the concrete oven the fire was in.these fuckin retards memeing that there was an akshual blast furnace up there
>>538524793The world trade center towers were blown up, anon. Everyone knows it.
>>538524842exactly, if anyone knows how to melt metals to cut gold and silver, it's jews.they study this shit as part of their early Talmud study work, how else can you cheat the goy on jewelry and fake bars?
>>538524658>its not imaginary failure, so its not an imaginary blast furnace eitherits just absolutely amazing that there are still retards out there in 2026 that believe the commission report
>>538523295>With enough insulation a wax candle can melt steel beamsStart here.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_thermodynamics
>>538524953face it faggot, IMAGINING that there were blast furnace conditions up there is the only way you can rationalize the collapse of the towers
>>538524973What's amazing is you're arguing with me, while nobody in your family can trace to Jacob, and you'll be passing your son's pecker to the mouth of a lunatic faggot who loves biting baby dick so much he pretends to be a bloodline nobody on earth has been able to prove in 2000 years, and the last time they did they slaughtered each other so badly the Romans cake-walked into their massive fortified city in under 8 months.Those fucking Actual jews were so nuts, they murdered themselves long before a roman sword showed up.But, hey, it is what it is, right? Might as well aim high, aim for the curse of the Universe on your family by trying to accept the duties of a code nobody can prove is theirs, ipso nobody can keep!Fuck yeah. And you think 20 years is a long time to have people misunderstand a situation.My good Irving, your family has been after this lunatic shit for at least 600 years.Not a one of them can trace to Jacob to be sure. But all of them want the curses of failure.
>>538514403How many DEI engineers built it?
>>538525220>let me turn up the projection to 11 and call you a jew>but trust me I'm right about that jet fuel taking down the twin towers
>>538523339>the concrete oven the fire was in.Hahaha, you're doing it again.THE TEMPERATURE INSIDE A CLOSED SYSTEM CAN NOT EXCEED THE TEMPERATURE OF THE HEAT SOURCE, AND THE TWIN TOWERS WERE AN OPEN AIR SYSTEM ANYWAY.RETARD.
>>538524741Sure I can do that. Will you give me a list of all the fires that were caused by 767s crashing into them? As soon as you get me that list I could probably point some out.
>>538524142>walking around peacefully makes you a thug>killing people makes you a honor roll student
>>538525327>doesn't deny being JIDF>retains false premise that I claimed it was one thing or anotherThe good thing for your terminal destination, is that God made the silk-worm, and its shit, and so He doesn't need to wonder how to see through it, the quarks of the atoms stop and bow if He says so.Unthinking energy clouds are smarter than your mother. And you, and your dad, and all of you combined.
>>538524842Holy shit, you guys believe anything you read on the internet. Wtf do you think concrete does to fire? Please use your own thoughts instead of google
>>538514403>someone hiding something?Yea structural issues so they don't have to pay for repairs.
>>538514403Steel beams don't lose structural integrity until they completely melt. Did the Jews do this?
>>538525327A similar thing happened where Boeing had to claim that TWA flight 800 had a leaky fuel tank/hose which made the plane blow up after some "terrorists" hit it with a stinger missile from the Hudson bay. Knew some boomers that worked on the recreation of that hypothesis but determined it was impossible for that to happen because the circuit always failed closed. It got memoryholed. Boeing took responsibility for it but only after they failed numerous times to prove their stupid theory and paid the right "engineers" to make it say what the government wanted.
>>538520020I've been through probably a little bit West of there. It was cozy (at least then)
>>538515051Everyone knows the melts steel beams...
Steel and other materials can melt if they're exposed to hot temperatures for a long time. I compare it to cooking spaghetti. Over time heat can soften the material up even if it's not literally melted
>>538514403>Insert NYC Steel Beams joke here
>>538525569>I can make something burn hotter than its burn temperature by putting it inside a concrete box.You better get to MIT and show them your findings because you just discovered a source of free energy.
>>538514497Why are there no brick skyscrapers then?
>>538525483A plane didnt hit WTC tower 7. How did it collapse?
>>538514497>an expected lifespan of just 80 years>80 yearsyou're being generous
>>538525517>I'm getting btfo'd here, better double down on the jew stuff since tripling down on the blast furnace meme isnt gaining any traction>esp since I got called a jew first, I'm gonna have to go full retard on the projectionyou can always tell when faggots have lost and they start backing away from their retarded claims so that they can make other retarded claims that dont have anything to do with the topicgg faggot
>>538525797>furnaces don't work by insulationit's interesting, because yes, you can actually heat things to higher than the open burn temp of the source, when the source is contained.
>>538525569you should go discover the section of chemistry called stoichiometry so as to gain some measure of understanding of why there was nothing at all resembling a blast furnace up thereI mean since all the pics of people touching bare metal somehow arent convincing
>>538525621>Steel beams don't lose structural integrity until they completely meltYour life must be very difficult.
>>538525739>You can melt stuff with a flame cooler than the objects melting point if you leave it there long enough NO.
>>538514403>Superior Merican McSteel
>>538525656yep I remember twa800
>>538525739Similarly constructed buildings burned for days and didn't collapse. These fell in a matter of hours. Of course, after everyone there reported explosions but thats just a pesky detail. My favorite was watching building 7 in the background of a news report staring it had fallen. Kek. It was in frame standing albeit with smoke rising
>>538525739>Steel and other materials can melt if they're exposed to hot temperatures for a long time.and anyone with half a brain itt knows that an hour or two aint even close to enough time
>>538525888no, this is you coping with me noticing you're JIDF trying to bury the reminder of Dancing Israelis. it's nothing to do with me caring if you or I ever understand every square inch of a plane wreck into a skyscraper.The bigger goal is to make me forget to ask things like>why was NORAD shut down on a day when Israeli intel in NYC all got a text warning of an attack?>why was our greatest ally aware of a massive threat to life against millions, but the US was just casually knocking off its radar systems?What do the Bilderberger and Rothschilds have to do with Zionism, and why are jews such dumb faggots on everything completely obvious with their failures to match the bloodline of Jacob?>I'd rather murder strangers than tell my mom and dad they're in a cultYeah, but not all of us is cowardly shit baskets, mkay?
>>538514913In the future, I'm taking 33 off of the entire number line like Asians do with buildings.Mathematicians will just have to get over it.
>>538514403So how the fuck do you repair a building's foundation? You can't take it off and lay it on its side
>>538514403>>538514403>Steel beams don't buckle under weight
>>538525797Wtf anon, thats how the furnace works. The entire point is to contain the heat and save energy. Without the insulated furnace, you have to use more energy to get the same amount of heat. Dude, this is shit you can read for free
>>538525809The building stopped working right. Under normal circumstances, building tend to "act right", if you will. In this case the building did a rather rare thing and didnt "act right" and it simply fell down
>>538525942Oh my fucking God you're so stupid you should be euthanized."ADIABATIC FLAME TEMPERATURE" LOOK IT UP.
>>538526264A furnace isnt made out of broken windows.
>>538526225This is the top floors. If you can find the support beams below, and structure up under using multiple floors coming up from around, you might be able to straighten this. But everything above is now in question to longevity. And to some degree, so is everything below, depedning on how the weight is resting.
>>538526349>Oh my fucking God you're so stupid>takes a photo of his screen>it's AIslop
>>538525797RetardJust so you know, literal niggers figured this out thousands of years ago to smelt the earliest iron. You are literally the dumbest person on the entire board right now.
>>538526332First and only one in history. Curious.
>>538526147>yeah I'm totally gonna stay away from the substance hereat least you recognize that you have no ground to stand on when you're arguing for fucking jet fuel taking down the twin towers>JIDF!look faggot, anyone who owns a talmud should have its burning pages stuffed down their disgusting kike throatall jew books should be burned in a pile that would make the hitler youth say damn look at the size of that firepepperidge farms remembers Carl Cameron's expose on the dancing itsrealies being shut down by the kike that owns fox newswhether you're a jew or just a useful idiot, you're protecting the jews with your argument, dumbfuck
>>538525995I never said blast furnace you moron. Im pointing out that you guys never consider insulation that acts like a furnace and the various other fuel sources that existed. You latch on to the simplest of answers and just run with it without ever questioning it. You just gulp up whatever bullshit youre fed by an algorithm and take it as a nugget of forbidden knowledge that only youre smart enough to "get"
>>538526357Neither is the fucking building you retard. >>538526357Not the first, maybe for a building, but it happened once with an oil tanker
>>538526264the point is that there were not blast furnace conditions up in the WTCs and stoichiometry will tell you that there is no possible way enough BTUs of heat were transferred to the structure to cause a collapse, much less a nearly symmetrical one
>>538526411Whoops, this was meant for you>>538526504
>>538519056>The USA has been coasting on buildings and infrastructure that we build 50+ years ago and refuse to update or replace because thats expensive.That's what you get when you put browns, blacks, and jews on councils. The former two are too stupid to understand the importance of infrastructure maintenance and the latter are too cheap (and hey, you can always litigate your way out of it).
>>538526428>when youNigger, more strawman to cover that your mom and dad, and clearly you, are dick sucking cultists afraid of lunatic who bites baby dicks.If he was a real bad-ass, wouldn't he be biting adult male dicks? That'd be a challenge, wouldn't it?Naw, that cheap suit faggot is biting babies, and you deliver them to him, afraid he'll take the rest of yours.You still a baby? Don't answer that, I don't want you getting surrounded by eager Rabbi.
>>538526452Temperature maximums are not reached additively through lesser fuel sources. Only the time it takes to reach it. Jetfuel can't melt steel beams regardless of how much paper you throw on the fire.
>>538526382>it's AIslop>That means its wrongSweet meme flag.
>>538514913>>538515188
>>538526626You took a photo of your screen, you fucking retard.
>>538526526>no possible way enough BTUs of heat were transferred to the structure to cause a collapse,that statement by itself ignores that steel fails long before it starts emitting visible light, when under load.It's like, when a rabbi gets really excited about having a chance to bite baby dicks, he can bob his head back and forth for hours with all that heat, even though there's no baby dick to bite nearby.Strength of the material is halved at a half a dozen hundred degrees F. And the tower was missing a few key supports by that point.
>>538526526Can you stop saying "blast furnace" please? Youve now confused other morons. How in the fuck does this confuse you? Youre now convoluting something that should be rather simple to understand.
>>538526504The WTC buildings were mostly glass and that glass had broken. There goes your blast furnace theory.I have been purposefully avoiding calling you a retard but you are a retard. I have 2 engineering degrees and im licensed.
>>538526698>He doesn't have a phone and computer>Still doesn't understand thermodynamics Stay poor and stupid
>>538526452>I never said it was a blast furnaceits a typical refrain for those who have no concept of physics or chemistry and assert that there were blast furnace like conditions up there>the various other fuel sources that existedyou mean like all the fire retardant chairs, cubicles and shit?reminder that stuff turns into black goop while consuming tons of BTUs in the process>You just gulp up whatever bullshit youre fed by an algorithmnow that's some irony, we all know what tall tale is going to be fed to people by an algorithm>South Tower (WTC 2): Burned for 56 minutes after being struck by United Airlines Flight 175 at 9:03 a.m., collapsing at 9:59 a.m.are you seriously that retarded that you think 56 minutes is plenty enough time for the structure to have been weakened by whatever remained of the jet fuel after the vast majority of it was burned off in the initial explosion?
>>538526552lmao look at how mad this asshole is getting because he got btfo'd
>>538526736The floors were steel coated in concrete. the supports were "logs" at variying points, the fire was multiple stories high and low.Thanks for playing.jews killed new yorkers to get the US to do their bidding in Iraq, because they knew that a peaceful US would be too happy and powerful to do Israel's land grabs for them.
>>538526886You think I'm mad, I'm just laughing at how cowardly your entire crew.Your women have more balls, and they're lunatics too.
>>538526724>that statement by itself ignores that steel fails long before it starts emitting visible light, when under load.56 minutes, faggotfifty six fucking minutesyou're so retarded you're not laughing at that amount of time, knowing it is completely fake and gayinstead you're here sperging out calling me a jew because I dont believe the 911 commission reportlol, lmao even
>>538526736Oh great, this should be an easy question for you then. Since the building was mostly glass, how much load were those windows panes holding up? The sqft of the building is documented on line as well as the density.
>>538526892>the supports were "logs" at variying pointsahahahahahahahahahahathis is so fuckin retarded its hilarious
>>538526945>you're a coward for btfo'ing metime to find a new thread to troll, himey
>>538526962I'm laughing because you're desperate to pretend you could have been the actual Jew, if you just win this meaningless strawman.But the problem, nobody can trace to Jacob, and winning this argument doesn't change that Israel is an, if not The biggest enemy to the West that exists.There is nothing Western in Israeli Zionism.
>>538526993>the density of the buildingYou mean the volume? A building doesn't have a density, dipshit. It's mostly empty space, like your head.
>>538526808An hour long fire is a long ass time. Dude I swear life must be so fucking easy for you. I cant imagine how simple your day is. You have no concept or consideration of how much shit is inside of a building. There is square miles of shit crammed into the walls of a building like that, not to mention various types of bullshit that can roar a fire way over what gas can. Magnesium for example can heat a fire up to 4000 degrees. Alloys for structures can contain up to 10% of it. Oh yeah, and the fucking jet engine has it too. That's just a single simple part of it. Just like youre reducing this down to a bite sized answer thats 'yes or no' its impossible to explain this to you.
>>538527237Every single similarly built skyscraper that has suffered a fire was fine. Jetfuel can't melt steel beams.
>>538527054(((You)))r replies have been entirely non substantive for quite a while now, jackassIts pretty clear you're out of your element and have so utterly failed the technical matters of the argument that you can only seethe and try to call me a jew for having btfo'd youyou should really work on getting some better material
>>538527194>>538527194No retard, the density of the glass, like i said. Why the hell would you assume density of a building? How the hell did you get that from what I said? I was specifically talking about sq footage of glass panes when I mentioned the fucking density. You know, the thing youre going to need to understand the load you can put on it. Since youve got two engineering degrees, youve heard that at least twice
>>538527324How about a similar fire? Shouldn't we isolate for that?
>>538527237You need to go to MIT and show those stupid professors what's what.Make sure to bring your perpetual motion machine with you so they know what's up.
>>538527400Why the fuck would I tell them that? That a fire thats insulated well enough and given various fuels to burn can get a room hot enough to liquify metal? How the hell would that be news to them?
>>538527365The exterior wasn't load bearing, the central columns that were made out of 8" thick box channel were.
>>538527334You've been strawman and fallacy on bullshit since you started.Your mother can't trace to Jacob, nobody in your family can trace to Jacob.Nobody on earth can trace to Jacob, the Torah is defacto defunct, the problem is you're all afraid of a baby chaser.That's it.As for this building, it might be savable, but I have a guess that when you go to prop it back up, the other columns will show how bad they are.I suggest tearing off the top that was added on, that might save it.
>>538527365>the sqft of the building is online and so is the densityGeee, why would I think you were asking about the density of the building when that is what you said? Retard. Also, the glass isn't supporting any weight you fucking idiot. Lmao.
>>538527482>With enough insulation a wax candle can melt steel.NO.
>>538527237>An hour long fire is a long ass time.sure that must be why they have time ratings for that shittotally no problem that you're trying to say its no big deal for the rating to be exceeded in a third of the time because it was totally blast furnacey but not a blast furnace and let's nevermind all the people touching metal, that means nothing when we're talking about metal getting so hot it loses its tensile strength>magnesiumdoesnt even belong in this discussionis it that hard for you tards to understand that jet fuel did not take down the WTCs?
>>538527482>That a fire thats insulated well enough and given various fuels to burn can get a room hot enough to liquify metal?this is complete fiction when you're trying to say this is what happened to the WTCseven without the liquefy part
>>538527485>The exterior wasn't load bearingyes they were dumbassfucking WTCs 101
>>538527541Whoops thats my mistake. I got worked up. The sq footage of the glass panes, THEIR density, as well as the number of them are all online. Since the building was "mostly glass" according to you. Id like for you to tell me the weight and the load that glass needs to hold for the building to stand
>>538527623>they have time ratings for that shitunder an internal fire load. nobody puts those ratings on a half blown out floor.except your mom. she's been totally vaginally blown out since infancy when grandad, still reeling from his abuse by the rabbi, went after her vagina being told it would be like a poke in the eye.
>>538527623>doesnt even belong in this discussion>is it that hard for you tards to understand that jet fuel did not take down the WTCs?They have to be trolling at this point, or they're niggers.
>>538526792You took a photo of your screen.
>>538527489>You've been strawman and fallacy on bullshit since you started.and now he reveals that he's never taken a course on or understood logic, cant even get the imaginary fallacy correctyou're getting boring now, so many btfos and you just keep repeating the same shit over and overclearly assmad about being btfo'dwhat a god damned fucking retard you are
>>538527793And?
>>538527873And you should kill yourself or go back to whatever site for retarded old boomers you came from.
>>538527826>let me recap where I've been so I don't have to address the pedo my parents let into my house every other Saturday!yeah, no, he's still a sick weird faggot.and he's after kids, you're clearly not a child anymore. kick his baby eating ass, if you're some real man.
>>538527744jews making sure this thread shoahs asap
>>538527728The glass doesn't hold any structural weight. The glass was only mentioned because it was broken out which dissolves the "muh concrete oven" retardation. Most of the exterior was glass which broke causing the heat to escape outside.
>>538527908go back to plebbit, retard
>>538527623Steel girders are about .005% magnesium. 200k tons of steel leaves around 1000 pounds of magnesium inside the building from the steel alone. That is pretty significant. Thats not to include any other amounts found inside the engines and whatever the hell would be inside the building. Magnesium burns over 5k degrees. Is 5k degrees hot enough to melt you steel? Oh speaking of jet fuel, it burns hot enough to ignite magnesium. Are you starting to see how this isnt a simple answer? Its crazy, its almost like its a multitude of different things that happened instead of a nice clean answer
>>538527793Ohhhh... I see.You think I took a picture of my screen with my phone, then sent it to my puter, then uploaded it. Of couse you would think that because youre an idiot.
>>538527969>I reference another (((website)))how about I go back to somethingawful or newgrounds?How about I just nuke Tel Aviv so you can act like you're free for once?
>>538527937Oh shit, so its not made out of mostly glass? Well in that case, whats it made out of by weight?
>>538527975Maybe in a pure oxygen environment. Damn, you should have stayed in school.
>>538527975now trace amounts of magnesium did itlmaojesus fuckin christ it must be really hard for you fags to think any unapproved thoughts
>>538528111Bro, you're retarded. Enjoy your life of being wrong about everything and wondering why no one likes you. Jetfuel cant melt steel beams.
>>538528026its pretty funny how assmad you are that your idiotic bullshit you were peddling was so beaten to fuck that you completely stopped trying to make a substantive argumentbut that's what happens when you believe fake things and wind up having to make stuff up in order for your fantasy to appear true to those without sufficient brainpower
>>538527997You. Took. A. Photo. Of. Your. Screen.Your arguments don't matter because you are below the IQ floor for discussion.
>>538528228>I dont care about the words telling me I'm btfo>I'ma focus on the method of deliveryretards just expose themselves so quickly and easily
