nu/pol/ would call this movie "woke Muslim propaganda" if it came out today
Nah, its just dumb. Muslims and Christian crusaders actually had a bone to pick with each other. Jews had nothing to do with it.
>>538524963>Jews had nothing to do with it.
>>538525113Jews had no power back then
>>538524150That film was criticized for historical inaccuracy when it was released.
>>538525200>Jews had no power back thenGood joke
>>538524150You want to pretend like the crusades weren't a response to centuries of Muslims raiding and occupying European land.
>>538524150People were calling it out even back then. It made up all sorts of dumb shit that never happened.>Templar were all fanatics while Muslims were completely peaceful and reasonable>Saladin's sister was raped and executed by a Reynald instead of literally living a long life and dying of old age like what really happened>star fortresses being conceived of literally centuries before they would actually be builtetc
>>538524150Its an awful movie by a self hating YT
>>538524963Not true actually, the crusaders primary mission was to secure the holy land and protect pilgrims, beyond that they didn’t really care, the historical image of the crusaders being these Muslim slaying armies is mostly fantasy. The knights templar for example had no problem living around and working with Muslims, they routinely hired Muslims to work in their castles and way houses. Its generally better to be pragmatic than dogmatic.
>>538524963Story has no tail 0/10
>>538524150That movie was considered bullshit when it came out. The crusades weren't jewish manipulation, though the Venetians certainly acted like jews.The first crusade was kicked off by the Eastern Roman Emperor asking the Pope to muster aid against invading T*rks. The Pope took it as a launchpad for something greater because the Italian reconquista had just concluded and there was militant fervor and a hope that there could be a general reconquest against half a millenia of muslim invasions and aggression against Christians.The second and third crusades were fundamentally wars to defend the Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem against muslim invaders. After that it began to drift towards being broad coalition wars against whatever non-Christian group the Pope was convinced to direct Catholics against.
>>538525705Oh and just to add onto that, the 4th crusade (by far the largest) targeted Christians significantly more than Muslims. The sacking of Constantinople in 1204 ultimately culminated in the Muslims taking control of the Byzantine empire. So in a sense the crusaders didn’t just do nothing to fight Islam, they strengthened it.
>>538525200They always had money
>>538524963>jews are blameless, goy
>>538524150>nu/pol/ would call this movie "woke Muslim propaganda" if it came out todayand touch your faggot butthole too, faggot.
>>538524963and the side they often chose was….
>>538525210Still is. Turned highly religious people into mouth pieces for secular liberalism
>>538524150I mean it kinda was,if I remember correctly the producer was an atheist that wanted to mock christianity
>>538525887You are a lying kike. The fourth crusade was small. Several times smaller than any of the ones that came before it and smaller than most that came after. It being so small is in fact one of the main reason the Venetians diverted it, because they built up expecting to be paid way more and instead they were faced with catastrophic financial losses.The crusade never targetted Christians. The target was Jerusalem. Venice diverted it for their own projects and took about half of the crusaders with them, all of whom were excommunicated.
>>538524150nu/pol/ doesnt actually consume media.
>>538526377>The crusade never targetted Christians.They literally sacked Constantinople and killed thousands of Christians. Then turned around and went back home. It may not have been their original intention, but when faced with a looting opportunity they did not have any hesitations about targeting Christians only.
>>538526301and portray the muslims as poor victims who never attacked anyone and only wanted to defend themselves.
>>538526377>it never targeted Christians They sacked Constantinople, deposed the king and left the city in ruins, the resulting power vacuum and destabilization helped the Muslims seize the entirety of Anatolia. The whole reason the ottomans became a massive existential threat was because the crusaders targeted Christians.
>>538526579feudal armies don't give a fuck, they wanted their mony and the nobles wanted land and renown.
>>538524150what i find funny is that a basic read of historical sources make it sound very much like Mohamaed was a jew and his entire life story is an invention of the various people the muslims had conquered in the two hundred years since 630 ad until about 900 ad
>>538526279´´em actually the protagonist is an atheist templar since he was smarter than the religous brute nobles´´
I am perfectly happy to respect Muslims and live in peace with them as long as they are in their own countries and I am in mine.
>>538524150crosscucks have always been spiritual jews and the ultimate golemthey worship a dead jew on a stick
>>538526854best take.
>>538526579>>538526677They stopped being crusaders and became mercenaries the moment they agreed to go to Zara despite being directly told they would be excommunicated for doing so. You conveniently didn't acknowledge your outright lie about the crusade's size by the way. It was one of the smallest, with half going to Jerusalem as intended and more of the mercenaries leaving after Zara. They also didn't invade Byzantium. They fought as mercenaries in a civil war, and deposed the emperor they fought for and looted the place after he refused to pay them.On a side note, the whole reason muslims took anatolia had little to do with the 4th crusade. Muslims took anatolia because the Byzantines couldn't stop betraying each other, and claimants would even sell land to muslims in exchange for them being mercenaries in their succession conflicts.
>>538527027this, betrayal and civil wars were really common in medieval times feudalism is like that, nationalism wasn't a thing back then.
It's a gay film.Good guys: multiculti westernersHonourable and fair rival: MuslimsBad guys: crusaders Totally gay film.
>>538527270it's a shame since the last siege scenes are really well done overall even if not that historical, the amors and clothes colors are well done too.
It literally was woke. Saladin was a typical muzzie nigger.
>>538527456in the movie they make it look like he let the christians go for free, meanwhile in reality.
>>538524150>the Jews tell meIt’s literally written in koran, sunnah and Hadith. Muslims just do Taqiya and mental gymnastics when cornered. IS is the purest and most conservative form of Islam
>>538527185I would note that the Eastern Roman Empire was a bit special in this regard. Feudal France for example remained relatively stable under the Capets for centuries. England had intermittent periods of clusterfuck and stability. Byzantium on the other hand... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Byzantine_revolts_and_civil_wars
>>538528218>was a bit special As are you, I'm sure. Lol So what was it about the Byzantine empire that allowed them to last so long? They outlasted the western side by centuries. I read somewhere that one of the original emperors maybe it was Constantine himself, had somebody read the talmud to him and he immediately put jews in the penalty box, and that's why they made it so long. Basically he did what any true Chud would do, and said they can't be in charge of money or education or media or even important businesses.
The movie was okay but the message never resonated with me. I am not a blacksmith Deus Vult.
Nobody ever dares mention the children's crusade and their fate.
>>538527691wholly based
>>538526659To be fair, we would have done the same thing to them if we weren't busy murdering each other.
>>538524963They ALWAYS have everything to do with it, Moshe.
>>538524963>someone explain him lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txI77FsDyRc&t=31s
Jews are evil but lets not pretend muslims aren’t scum, what I will say is the muslims that are our enemy are the ones invading our countries not the ones staying in their own
>>538524150why can't white men just stop doing the jew's bidding? do white men have no free will?
>>538527839And Abraham, known as Ibrahim in the Quran is a significant prophet who is mentioned 69 times across various chapters. He is recognized as a friend of God (Khalilullah) and is considered a key figure in establishing monotheism and the rites of pilgrimage in Islam.Abraham which is the main prophet of Judaism btw.They are abrahamic religions for a reason
>>538532108It's all the same abrahamic thingy https://www.drumlanrigaccords.com/
>>538524963>that bolshevik flagexpected
>>538525705>>538524963>your job is to protect the pilgrims, Christian, jew or Muslim. Not because its expedient but because it is rightt. King Baldwin
>>538530324>their fateDarwin Award candidates, all of them
>>538524963>Jews had nothing to do with it.O RLY?
>>538526659What a Cancer on the world, and now the heart is Jewish. LOL.
>>538524150>muzzies invade and genocide christians>christians zerg rush invading muzzies>muzzie taqqiya psyop christians: don't genocide muzzies. its da joooz.
>>538535878Why did you have to have a gay flag jeet. You finally post something not retarded and in typical jeet fashion, fuck it up. Even posting with your Indian flag would've been better. Now don't let it get to your head. All of you need to fuck off to your home lands.
>>538524150Saladin was a Kurd