Let's discuss Gen Z culture and its political implications. Zoomers are highly political, but most of them seem to get their opinions from talking heads on TikTok, Twitch and YouTube the same way boomers got their opinions from TV news. What's the deal with that? Why aren't the youth today rebellious or independent?
>>538528013When did twitch become a platform for things other than gaming, anyway? Why is there political commentary on a site for a children's hobby?
>>538528013Isn't staring rude?
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>>538528832This guy pioneered the engagement bait business model on YouTube. It seems like he fucked off and retired. Kind of based, cashing in while it was good like that.
>>538528013As if the previous two generations were any different. Millennials are fucking pozzed and are all gay niggers. Gen-X is a generation of posers who didn't do shit except bitch and moan.What millienials, a generation of "Disney adults" (perpetual children) who seek apotheosis via fucking cape shit and star wars, aren't as terminally online? Yourube has existed since 2005, nigger.Gen-X loves their electric jews, just like boomers. If anything, at least zoomers and boomers have interesting things to say.
>>538529066He's still around.
>>538529206Millennials do have Disney adults, but that's just one flavor. The problem with Gen Z is that they have a singular culture which most of them conform to in the West. Subcultures have completely disappeared.
>>538529355>>538529206Also, the generations as humans might not be different on a fundamental level, but culturally they are quite different. Gen Z's entire mental model of the world comes from the Internet, which wouldn't be completely bad if not for the fact that the Internet to zoomer datacows basically means Instagram, TikTok and YouTube. They don't read or consume actual informational content, only "video essays" (which used to just be called VIDEOS, you dumb zniggers) which consist of some low IQ asshat reading a Wikipedia article into a microphone and padding out the runtime with meaningless bullshit for ad revenue. They have this toxic "ok, boomer" attitude, even toward people who are just a few years older than they are. That started as funny banter but in quintessential zoomer fashion they adopted it as a serious belief and now 19 year olds go around thinking they're in the same category as actual teenagers (13-16). News flash, dipshits: if you are 17-18, you are an adult. When called out on anything, they pretend they were being "ironic," except they don't actually know what irony is and they just use some simulacrum of it to avoid accountability for everything. They don't truly have opinions on anything because they are so thoroughly mindbroken by post-cancel culture that I wonder if even their internal monologue lacks truly independent thought. They have this really fucked up shaming culture which has progressed to a point where half of them act like kiwifags and will straight up gangstalk each other in a completely unhinged fashion. It used to be like Tyler the Creator said and you could just turn off the computer, but not with these creeps. Say what you want about the virtues of Libertarianism, but it's totally dead with zoomers because they are by and large a generation of consumers with no independent thought. They police each other and people around them to conform, which is the gayest possible culture youth can have.
>>538528013>Why aren't the youth today rebellious or independent?These goy livestock barely had a chance at having a brain that will ever fully develop. They are literally retarded from being raised by the internet, in an era of the worst art, music and movies. Only then to be chemically castrated by vapes, weed, xanax etc. The whole Gen Z stare expresses their state of permanent shock. You would be too if you were born when 9/11 happened... poor fuckers never had a chance.
>>538529857That's another thing that befuddles me. Young people are supposed to rebel, to fight the power, to seek authenticity and go against the "mainstream," etc. Zoomers, however, are like puritans, actively enforcing the status quo over everyone around then, but they're also extremely degenerate, and that contradiction is somehow lost on them.
>>538529355Are you fucking kidding? There is no such thing as "zoomer culture" precisely because of streaming and the Internet. They're all siloed into completely independent hobbies and interests.Normies, regardless of generation never do anything interesting. Normies of each generation — Zoomie-zoomers, millennials, gen-x and boomer — are all currently glued to the niggerball.Meanwhile zoomer movers-and-shakers are doing a million different things. Dressing as a clown, goth, nigger, cowboy, etc. Zoomers autismos are reading evola, Nietzsche, the classics, parato (elite theorists), post-modernists. The 20-something millennial was collecting funko-pops and laughing at philosoraptor, etc. If anything millenia culture was more homogenous, and consumerist, than gen-X (which did have a lot of movements). Boomers had a few distinct movements, too.Each Gen-Z is effectively a movement all to themselves, which is probably why they so schizoid and feckless as a generation.
>>538529534Millienial, not zoomers, did the "video essay" (which is a thing, it's an essay recorded on video — as opposed to wrote up more formally).Everything you say is just as true for Millienial and gen-X as zoomers. If anything, zoomers rebel more. Zoomers brought as types like Fuentes who mocked a jew holy "survivor" live on Piers Morgan's wank off show.
>>538530117>There is no such thing as "zoomer culture" That's not true, there is a sort of monoculture and it is quite different from that of precious generations. An example of a millennial subculture is hipsters--that was a sort of fashion and superficially a lifestyle culture. Zoomers do have culture; for example, a large proportion of them have the standard "gamer" chair that looks like a sportscar seat, they have LED strips around their ceiling in their rooms, they say "bruh" and "nigga" a lot (even the white ones)--that's all cultural, even if it's shit. Many of the girls were wearing those hideous high wasted parachute pants for years, young boys wearing long socks with Nike flip flops and booty shorts (wtf lol), the broccoli cut, etc etc. They also have a horrific snitch culture which pisses me off.
>>538528013Those ssri eyes Gen Z makes when confronted by the authenticity of past gen fags, and all the baristas got discount tats and lesbian girlfriends whose hair has already fallen out
>>538530413Fuentes is just the Gen Z Tucker Carlson or whatever. He's a gatekeeper. Ok, he made some edgy jokes about Jews when he was starting out, like the cookie monster thing (which he just stole from /pol/, which is what all of these eceleb grifters do). It's always downplayed as le irony though, and he has not pushed any big red pills about Jews in a long time if he ever did to begin with. It's also quintessentially zoomish that he's a light skin Mexican and he's supposed to be the savior of the white race or some shit lmao. It's not like he's some independent thinker, he's an obvious plant just like AJ was (or later became, whatever). These people always get coopted if they weren't corrupt from the start.I don't want to get too lost in the weeds about some gay eceleb. But come on bro, it's quite obvious that there are massive cultural differences between these generations. Are you a zoomer yourself?
>>538528013Gen x=/=boomerMillenials/gen z are retarded easily led niglets
>>538530049None of them know what they're doing here so they'll go along with anything... it's why male zoomers all adopt the same sheep haircut unaware of the irony behind it (irony is another thing that's completely lost on them.. when you think a zoomer is being ironic or quirky most of the time they're really not). It's almost like their own subconscious or some entity is playing a joke on them.Gen Z are unproductive livestock.
>>538530413And millennials didn't make video essays, they just made videos. The whole concept of a video essay (as it is executed today) is a zoomer thing. I'm not saying a long form video with a script is unique to gen Z, I'm saying that the identification of them as something other than just a 'video' is a Zoomer thing.Millennials were teens when the Web (different from the Internet) was relatively fresh and new. YouTube didn't even have official monetization support until many years after it launched. I remember because I was in middle school when YouTube came out. It's been almost a decade since the death of any sort of authentic content on that platform.
>he thinks there is actually a meaningful difference between someone born 31/12/1996 and 01/01/1997
>>538528013The spirit of the times is "do whatever everyone else is doing even if it means jumping off a bridge". Gen z needs to disconnect from social media and pretty much all modern entertainment in order to get right mentally. It's difficult for them because they mostly have weak, feminine fathers with no discipline who didn't raise them right, if at all. Most gen z men are feminine because they look up to their mothers more. They need direct intervention from God aka Jesus Christ through the holy spirit. It's the only thing that will help them. They need to stop seeking help from other people, and seek after wisdom from God.
>>538531013Older zoomers are clearly some sort of midway point between millennials and younger zoomers--it's obviously a continuum. '96 is where you start getting into old zoomer territory and most people born after 2000 quite clearly belong to a culturally distinct generation separate from millennials.
>>538530992>I'm saying that the identification of them as something other than just a 'video' is a Zoomer thing'Video essay' as a term caught on in the mid-2010s. It was already old hat by 2020
>>538528495Since women realised they can make money from simps by virtue of having a hole.
>>538529206>If anything, at least zoomers and boomers have interesting things to say.Lol, you had me until there.I find zoomers have this weird learnt helplessness, which is weird - like.... just google it (or AI it these days). They don't know shit about tech.
>>538531215>it's obviously a continuum>and most people born after 2000 quite clearly belong to a culturally distinct generationIt's all nonsense, mate. The Baby Boom was a real demographic phenomenon, with obvious political and cultural consequences, but everything outside of that is just arbitrary 15-year groupings without any substantive link
>>538531396You're a fucking dumbass
>>538531036One thing I don't understand is why so few young people go a different direction. Surely there is still demand for novelty and variety, and deviating even slightly from the few socially approved opinions makes you stand out. That has value in an attention economy. I think part of it is that they're simply not allowed. The 'public square' of today is heavily moderated and most people in it will form a digital lynch mob over almost anything. A large contingent of people are just waiting for any excuse to do so.
>>538530049Some zoomer men are kinda based, the women, not so much.The puppet masters have managed to convince people that "STAND UP FOR RAPISTS" and "RAPEFUGEES ARE WELCOME HERE" is somehow anti-establishment.I blame the boomer-run universities.
>>538531504We should kill easily led nigletsSheeple are worthless
>>538531523Universities are run by leftists you fucking retarded nigger
>>538531498Not an argument, nigger
>>538531228Perhaps, but in 2020 a lot of zoomers were in their mid-20's, and they're about 30 now. "Zoomers" (actually Gen A and later) today grew up with that being established as a term on the platform, but millennials didn't. We weren't making "video essays" in 2010, we were making videos.
>>538531504Hence why I said they need to stop using social media and things of that nature. I'm not making excuses for gen z clowns who can't be individuals. If they want to be seen as real men they better act like it.
>>538531608Yes, and boomers started the whole social-marxism thing.
>>538530413>gen-Xfuck no retard. Gen X remembers a time before this gay terminally online age and knew how to not be a sniveling little snitch like all the generations that followed. t. Late Gen X
>>538531682No wonder shitskin rapists rule your nationYoure mentally handicapped
>>538531631I'm not arguing with a fucking retard who thinks boomers are the only generation to ever exist.
>>538531498>>538531396If you're an observant person, it's very easy to see cultural differences between certain age ranges. Even (or perhaps especially) if you check out completely, you can see them. It's actually eye opening for me because it illustrates or highlights how much of culture is simply bestowed on the plebs from on high. Very little of it is authentic and it's impossible to ignore that if you're a critical or analytical sort of person.
>>538531523I've dated a few gen Z chicks and they were at varying positions along the terminally online spectrum. I noticed they couldn't have an authentic private conversation; instead, they acted like they were on candid camera 24/7, and there was always this unspoken undertone of, "Mah gawddd did he really just say that," even in private with no one else listening. Over time, I began to see that they seemed to have to stifle some natural instinct to grab their phone and record anything that went outside of a very narrow range of what's considered socially acceptable, even in private. These women also got their ideas of sex and relationships from social media, porn, and other women, and I had to basically deprogram them in the early stages of the relationship to get them to act normal. A couple of them thought "squirting" is real (it's piss, retards) and when contradicted they'd do what many zoomers do and resort to shaming, always going for the lowest hanging fruit--things like "you just never made anyone squirt LOL". Don't get me wrong, I'm up for being pissed on by a hot chick--I'll lick it right up, but I'm not going to pretend your made up porn fetish is scientifically valid. It has soured me on relationships with younger women--they're not all bad and they can be shown something better, but these Gen Z chicks tend to be especially annoying.
>>538532072All cumdumps are annoying
>>538531783>who thinks boomers are the only generation to ever exist.Not remotely what I said, you dumb cunt. I said the 15-year windows for Gen X, Y, Z, A, etc. are totally arbitrary groupings, while the Baby Boom is at least underpinned by an observable, measurable demographic event. There is not a specific material factor which links together people born from 1965-'80, or '97-2012, etc. in the same way. Why are they even 15 years? The Baby Boom lasted for 18 ffs, it's not even extrapolating out the framework consistently. You could make up any fucking brackets and they'd fit about as well. People putting serious stock into this stuff like they're real divisions are beyond retarded
>>538528013>Gen Z stareNormies have always gawked stupidly.
>>538532215Too gay;didnt read
>>538531746Okay boomer.
>>538532215You're a worthless man speaking useless words and providing useless data, desperately trying to appear intellectually superior.
>>538532187Women can be annoying, but Gen Z girls are something else. They have this fucked up "how do you do, fellow kids"-type attitude into their 20's and beyond. And so much is reduced to a costume nowadays. There are no goth girls anymore, it's all just Becky but she picked dark clothes at the character outfit selection screen, Becky but with gamer girl accessories (pink controller, pink headphones), Becky but with a Nirvana shirt (my preference desu). It's obviously not just about fashion but this bleeds into how they see they world and interact with it
>>538532372Didnt openStay gay kid
>>538532292>>538532520Are you an actual darkies or something? It's like 5 sentences, bruv, it's not that complicated
>>538532537Ive seen nirvana liveYou poseurs should be ground into cattle feed
>>538532580>On basket weaving board for political discussion>Doesn't want to debate anyoneOkay, go drink your high fructose corn syrup.
>>538532629>not saupying niggersThe UK is lostBest to nuke it from orbit then start over
>>538532703Go funnel your sand nigger semen lol
>>538532735>Chimp noises
>>538532862You stuck your head outside eh?Itll be funny when millions of you nigger lovers die in ww3
>>538532640Kek, that's the spirit. I've noticed this, too--that a certain type of Gen Z will identify strongly with things from my childhood and will gatekeep and generally act like pretentious twats about it. Pretty funny because some of them are into Limp Bizkit for example which when I was a kid was considered faggy and for basically lame Gen X douchebags by the type of kids I fit in with at the time. It's actually sad that you guys don't have subcultures like that--it's much more fun to be a pretentious dickhead when there are actually other groups to criticize lol. Also you don't have any of the actual culture underlying the thing, it's all just forms and aesthetics (posing, basically, like you said).
>>538533027See>>538532340
>>538532640Do your best Kurt Cobain impression, Grandpa!
>>538530992>Millennials were teens when the Web (different from the Internet) was relatively fresh and new.God what a cringe inducing sentence. Just shut up, just shut the fuck up dude you have no idea what you're blathering on about, you are so fucking stupid if you genuinely believe the words you are saying.
>>538533221Itll be fun watching you die in ww3
>>538533091Do you get a little hit of dopamine from coming to platform which is exclusively for discussions, opening a thread declaring that you're not participating?
>>538533313>rule following lil nigger sheeple mentalityYoure masked n vaxedIt bet thousands of $ on it
>>538533313Quite odd behaviour desu - does make you question the anons mental health.
>>538533272You're triggered and you opted to impotently vent your frustrations. Try formulating an argument instead, newfag.>>538533385>>538533501Too many people leak out of TikTok and come here just to spam nigger because you can't do it elsewhere. Contrary to whatever you heard in an epic iceberg deep dive video essay about 4chan, this is (or was) a place to discuss things.
>>538533501>>538533632You two need a room or you prefer an audience while you circle jerk?
I don't care about old people ranting about mundane things, just give me some chicken nuggies.
>>538533684We're going to digitally spitroast you while having a calm and rational discussion about the state of your generation. You're going to experience a wide range of emotions while being Eiffel Towered over the Internet.
>>538533934I'm assuming he's a boomer or Gen X. Probably on his third divorce.Why are they like this?
>>538528013>get their opinions from social media, the internet, and tvAs if we all aren't doing the exact same thing right now gramps. So are all the other bitter people harping on zoomers in this thread right now. It's just a giant digital circlejerk. I have a sneaking feeling that even if you were exposed to rebellious and independent zoomers you wouldn't accept it or acknowledge it because you possess a desire to feel superior to others. I thought this basketweaving forum was past the whole "my generation is implicitly better than the younger generations" mind-virus. But maybe no one is immune to it. I'm sure I'll be a nasty old person complaining about young people just like (you) someday.
>>538533934Only nigger faggots care about what strangers online thinkLike you
>>538534087You tards detective skills are as faulty as your sanity lol
>>538528495>It's a childrens hobby>because err you can't make money....>wait>fuck >AHHHHHHKill yourself retard.
>>538534055I like this meme. Girls who play Sims and Animal Crossing are top-tier. Those are pretty much the only games that females play authentically (rather than performatively), I guess because they're essentially playing with a virtual dollhouse. Cute.
Lack of white children. I'm not kidding. As a white girl she should have been able to get a few crushes about cute white boys and have enough white girl friends to interact with and share beauty advices. It doesn't help TV basically removed 80% of presence of pretty actors. Instead her only interaction about the other sex is what she reads about pedo trannies in the internet. Add to that the granny mother happy as fuck to have the prettier female presence ruin herself.A mtf does it for fetish because it saw too much porn to the point he relates everything a woman does as pornishA ftm does it because she never got any attention and didn't interact with kids at all. She wants to feel special but she chose the worst possible way. Before when girls wanted to feel special they would just use make up or go full emo, now they cut their tits and want some macabre validation.This is also why you should NEVER share vids of your kids online either, it's not the same to use a camera on your kid opening a present to send the vid to his grandparents, it is absolutely DESTRUCTIVE to make the kid feel observed and make him/her develop the need to seek for strangers validation.Strangers validation is a NO NO for kids, they get so desperate to get one they would when mutilated themselves.Like, the eyes are the soul, i look at op pic and I can tell she never>Enjoyed cartoons as a kid>Had friends>Had crushes either on actors or pretty white boys in her class
>>538532072>they acted like they were on candid camera 24/7See>>538534397Never EVER record your kid, you create him/her this trauma or constantly trying to please strangers
>>538532292Yeah that's it. I think also teenagers working shitty jobs have always been antisocial. I work retail and I think I do a good job at smiling at even the most bitter, entitled, and impatient boomers and joggers. This is just the first time old people have been able to actively complain about antisocial teens on a large scale due to the internet being incredibly accessible. >>538531746>>538532735(and many other replies, keystrokes)What a kind and friendly individual.Calling everyone a nigger and then acting like one. Pot calling the kettle black, kek.
>>538534545Memeflag=niggerNo exceptions
>>538534156>As if we all aren't doing the exact same thing right now gramps.This place used to be more of a thunderdome of opinions. That's part of the reason I'm ranting here to begin with--you newfags make this shit unusable by treating it like a dumping ground for digital waste and banal opinions. Sure, the world really needs people to bring generic Instagram opinions to 4chan, lil bro.Generation talk is mostly Internet memes (and social programming) but there are real differences. >you possess a desire to feel superior to othersSure, but I'm still engaging in analysis and discussion and you aren't. And I'm not saying there are no rebellious zoomers, just that they're comparatively rare and they don't really have an outlet for it because there are no alternatives for them. Being genuinely rebellious as a zoomer in the current social climate must be isolating
>>538534612Only fags care about approval from strangersStop sucking cocks faggot
>>538534252>>538534217Being this angry is legitimately bad for your health and mind/spirit/soul. You should learn to manage your emotions better desu.
>>538534778Off the cocksNow
>>538534397This is a pretty salient post. Modern social media definitely fucks the human mind, especially at a young age. I remember reading that Bill Gates and/or other tech billionaires don't let their kids have phones and give them wooden toys. They're probably on to something. And that was back when social media was just Facebook.
>>538534612/pol/ has been dead and filled with bots for years. Any meaningful political discussion happens on /his/ /news/ /int/ or randomly on other boards. /pol/ is just /x/ lite, but instead of cool esoteric schizos talking about astral projecting and aliens, it's bitter people arguing with more bitter people about how their delusions are better than someone elses. If you want my actual opinion on it, I do agree that there are less rebellious zoomers, but subcultures definitely still exist, they are just a lot smaller and a lot more fringe than the big ones in the past. Plus now everything is competing for peoples attentions due to clicks and attention being commodified under capitalism. In the past a subculture had to get relatively popular before a majority of people were exposed to it, and now it's so easy to not only be exposed, but interact with subcultures that the shock and 'wow' factor is lost because it has no time to build out of the public eye. Reminds me of the cole porter song "anything goes". Very similar to the mid thirties, a lot of things are so crazy and shocking that nothing is crazy and shocking anymore. Edge and thick irony has completely lost the edge. and as gay as it sounds being authentic is becoming the true rebellion.
>>538535018They are. Not only because pedos are watching your kids (and I'm convinced a lot of those parents videos showing their kids is because they know pedos give them tons of views, disgusting), it's because kids start to ACT at a very young age and constantly calculate how they move, talk etc to please the thousands of unknown viewers behind the camera.I would definitely remove/sue all those ragebait videos because they create a toxic culture and poison your soul, avgn at least was comedy
>>538534588>>538534709>>538534824Calm down ranjeesh
>>538535646Your newfag niggotry is showing
>>538535429Forocoches aka the biggest spanish forum was so obviously raided by bots or hurts to see. Before people should open their worries/share some really sad personal drama (they called it tema seriously/serious thread and even trolls respected that) but nowadays there is a lot of threads obviously written by chatgpt and the most ragebait obvious. They don't even respect the "serious threads" anymore, which even trolls respected because it was a real user suffering and needing help.So you can find tons of Hollywood jewish prompts like>Why are we men into cuck?>My girlfriend fucked black men in front of meEtc etc At some point, it was just bots replying to a bot thread which at that fucking point I wonder why won't elites just play The Sims
>>538532372Did you read what you posted?>Left-critical intellectual culture took hold in American academia – the cohort most commonly credited (or blamed) is the Baby Boomers, >the cohort most commonly credited>is the Baby Boomers, Are you sure there isn't another cohort to blame rather than a generational cohort of planet earth???Like, anything a bit more specific?
>>538534545The Gen Z stare is just a meme, but the truth it stems from is that zoomers are 'digital natives,' which is the politically correct term for 'iPad kids' who did most of their young socializing on Discord. It's really obvious to others when someone is like that because they tend to act like an annoying brat would on Discord (or they just lack the social tools that people who didn't grow up this way gain through experience) and they don't realize that's not appropriate for RL. Zoomers don't even differentiate between the Internet and IRL anymore. "IRL" isn't a thing for you guys.For example, I asked a teenager a question at a shop recently and he seemed blindsided by it. It was like his brain crashed. It's not unusual for an inexperienced teen to be confused in novel social situations, but he was doing a (lightly) technical task and my question was related to what he was doing, conversational in nature, and he would've had to speculate a little to answer it. I don't think he was autistic, I think he probably just does most of his socializing through his phone and hadn't been on the job long enough or in a public-facing capacity enough to know how to handle that situation correctly. To me, that's the real "Gen Z stare"--not knowing how to handle mundane social situations in a sort of exaggerated way. Then there's the weird coping mechanisms they'll often do, like claiming this is a boomerism instead of just acknowledging the fact that they're giving poor service.
>>538535429You make some good points here, but I don't think subcultures really exist anymore, at least not the way that they used to. I mean subcultures as part of or ostensible alternatives to mainstream youth culture. It's pretty much all the same ebonics, rap, black worship, word of the week, etc. Six seven xD
>>538535874To be fair they have nothing to look for. Millennial here we had our own internet and nintendo ps etc, but we still had a world outside there with parks, streets full of kids, safe neighbourhoods and hope.These kids literally have ugly niggers everywhere, can be stabbed/raped, can't afford a house, know geezers betrayed them (millennials found out way later), full feminists, everything is expensive etc so what do you expect. They just survive, play games and interact with their own circle.For example in my previous neighbourhood it used to be full of kids, we played football, swam in the pools, spent noons playing mortal kombat and eating Nutella sandwiches, rode bycicles etcNow? Last time I went there were no kids. Plenty of homes empty because the old farts hogging them ask for 650k. They bought those for 60k kek.
>>538535602You're right. How can you avoid that as a parent, though? Kids who don't grow up in this system aren't going to fit in--and while that's good in some ways, it still has a social cost. I guess you just have to find a community of like-minded people, but where can you find people who don't believe in giving their kids a smartphone until a certain age, but who aren't also some kind of unhealthy fringe group?
>>538531504I was born in 1994. When I was 13 facebook became big and I noticed a sharp change in how people behaved. That was 2007 which also is when iphones were a thing. Any retarded dance you did in class that people would have made 1 or 2 jokes about now can be recorded and go viral. And that was nearly 20 years ago.Culture has entirely shaped around this. There are working age adults whose entire life from -6 months of age are online with their ultrasound being posted online. I despise social media and I guess 4chan is the only one I use that counts as this. My wife uses facebook to keep in contact with family but even then bullshit happens because of that. It is nearly impossible to escape from the digital public square. A 10 or 11 year old that just learned he likes tits gives a presentation in sweatpants after the hot teacher is bent over in front of him and he will be known as boner kid until college where hopefully he can escape it. I honestly believe social media was pushed by the kikes to create more cookie cutter personalities in goyim.
>>538536401It's funny, I read >>538536084's post and I was trying to figure out how to state the fact that I believe most of this is by design. It's just impossible to ignore having lived through more than a few cycles of it by now. I'm starting to see this as a sort of epidemic, and I'd think that a subset of people will wake up one day and realize how pervasive and horrible this all really is, but I don't know how to reconcile that with the fact that it's obviously being done intentionally by our rulers. The thing is, this definitely affects the aristocracy's kids, too, so what the fuck are they thinking? Unless the upper echelons of society have a totally parallel education system where their children learn about the pitfalls and 'evils' of this kind of thing, I just don't see how this isn't going to blow up for all of us collectively. I think what the West needs in this context is a serious, sober minded person to blow the whistle on this topic in a way that is accessible to rare type of pleb who, if shown the light, will change in response to that information.
>>538531036This is fairly accurate and fairly decent advice, but, Gen Z are flooding into organised religion which, ultimately, is just following a different herd. Judeo-Christianity is heavily responsible for a lot of the damage we see today. So will that really help? or just lead them to more failure?As a generation, they have this strong sense of collective identity which other generations don't really have, especially millennials who effectively raised Gen Z online. A common circumstance and starting phase in an economic and social timeline has merit to it, but that's about it. So.. while Millennials raised Gen Z, Millennials don't see themselves as a mentally unified generation, which one advantage we got from our circumstance. There weren't really any role models as everything one way or another got exposed as being fake, and trying to figure shit out gave us a lot of room to be individuals. The early net adopters also got to become very individualised and what is common knowledge now, was at one point very obscure information found by a genuine elite, and transmitted through discussion and fighting. Digging up the past connected them to forbidden history, allowing them to be both torch carriers of tradition as well as "original" individuals. Gen Z sped run the learning process due to millennial memetics, and the only things they have is a generational identity and a now-lost, status of "youth". (they are an old generation now).
>>538528013Oh no! A thread about a topic that has echoed mankind for millenia! This time it’s different!!!Stfu dumbass boomer and read a book for fuck sakes
>>538536910This "even Socrates said the kids misbehaved" meme is such a mindless and bland perspective, and it comes up often in these discussions. You're not insightful, you're just a fence sitter.One of those figures from antiquity also thought the written word was a disaster in a way that was sort of adjacent to what we're discussing in this thread and he probably had a point to some extent. The difference is that that was an advancement and enabled people to elevate themselves, whereas the progression of modern culture, social media and the corporate Internet is in no way a positive progression. Basically take this post of yours and return to Reddit/Twitter with it
>>538537222Gen Z will hit their 30s and 40s and will be saying the exact same thing about Gen Alpha that millenials are saying about Z. Then 30 more years will pass and it will happen again. Just like it always has, and always will. It’s not interesting, it’s not different. If there is any difference, it’s that now this argument isn’t taken as a culture piece, it’s taken as another dividing propoganda fairytale to keep retards like you brainwashed into hating your neighbors for yet another reason
>>538536732Richfags have entirely different lifestyles which is much more tightly knit. I'm sure you would act different if your dad told you to not be a retard or lose your inheritance and banish you to being a normie. If you still were uppity they would get you to sign rights away and throw you in a looney bin to protect the family name.Normies are aware of it though. The idea of "if something is free you are a product" was extremely pervasive even in my rural shithole but normies still fall for things hook line and sinker. Just throw some stupid little incentive and people will jump on. I think kikes are right in the idea of goyim are cattle in this regard. Exposing social media for what it is as a vehicle to collect your data to sell to data brokers to sell to government to build a profile on you to monitor you will not work because it has been done. People still interacting with it greatly deserve what they get. The only way to stop it really is to kill electricity for a few months to force a society reset.Or you can be realistic and understand this is all just a new cycle. Young will use social media to be radicalized and manipulated by rich and kikes to infight instead of fixing society. They will get to be my age and think the older people are stupid and younger people are stupid as I do. They will get older than I am and regret their past extremism as I likely will and will hope the world becomes a more peaceful world. The world is designed to be more chaotic than it was yesterday until the chaos destroys society like has happened multiples of times over multiple thousands of years ago and will happen thousands of years in the future. I just don't see a winning move other than not interacting.
>>538531215Intelligent people are timeless and will often get along and find familiarity with other intelligent people regardless of generation. This is why so many of the old texts seem so familiar to smart people. The generational identity meme will only really work on certain personalities that need a group regardless of what it is apparently. Because of gaming and the internet, Gen Z and millennials and Gen X heavily grew up together. Gen Z became young adults online, Millennials became adults online and Gen X the senior child of the internet. The net was still obscure enough to make it a distinguishing thing whereas for Gen Z, it seems to be all of them. It is ironically, probably a consequence of M-X culture, who's influence was maximised online, that Gen Z adopted the "boomers suck" thing. That was an MX thing. Especially for onliners. Being online was like a crack habit at one point. When normies flowed into the net and discovered stuff, the MX onliners got to relish in "told ya so"s as a major cultural chapter of history closed. For example:The hiphop scene getting busted for being full of CIA backed homosexuals, is a comedy that only MX onliners can truly appreciate. University being a meme, is also a big laugh for MX. MX coming to terms with their parents starting families in their late teens to 20s is a sobering perspective. Gen Z are now old children raging about MX's parents who were younger than them when they "ruined the world". Gen Z are a cargo cult of MX memes and you should be angry with MX.
>>538536848>collective identityThis grinds my gears because they'll do utterly unhinged things purely for entertainment and then fall back on "generational differences" for what they think is plausible deniability. For example, I recently watched a mediocre Netflix docu some girl who killed her boyfriend, and she went on to dress up as a corpse or something adjacent to one and post it on social media just days later. A friend of hers was featured and explained it away as being a well-known character which she was dressing up as for Halloween, and she said something about how it's normal for "our generation" to dress up and to make a lot of social media posts like that. But it was overtly disrespectful and no sincere person can pretend that it wasn't intentional given the context and circumstance. It's like that stunt Logan Paul pulled where he wore the Toy Story hat to the suicide forest. These "kids" think they can just play dumb and as long as they have plausible deniability, they can get away with anything. They think "you just don't get it because you're old" is a valid excuse, even though they simultaneously understand that it's just a fire-and-forget zinger.This actually seems like a major part of zoomer culture. They care far less about the truth and far more about how something will be perceived by the waiting lynch mob. The result is something like the Apple River stabbing--have you seen the videos of that? After their lunch mob tactics backfired on them and their target started stabbing people, they actually stood around with shocked faces--mouths agape--saying, "Is this real?!". It was almost like they were saying, "Chat, is this real?" It was a really disturbing display of human behavior.
>>538528013You know that movie they all have an... Obsession... with? We should copy what that chick did and smash this retards (and all the rest that do this) face into a brick until her skull is exposed.
>>538537411Read the thread and try making an argument or doing some analysis, which you're avoiding by making this tired argument about the cyclical nature of humanity. That's not thought-procoking, it's just a comment of this subject and it's pretty well understood by most people engaging in this kind of discussion. You sound like a college kid in a philosophy 101 class. >>538537578Yeah, I've taken to referring to these people as datacows. You're right--the Jews are fundamentally right about most people. But people can be shown better and they should be, because a select few are of a similar caliber to those "richfags," even if they don't have the same resources.I think the winning move is basically communal living but that's a can of worms itself.
>>538531504The only thing they have is their generation. They all grew up online. All of their highschool bullies were transgender and shit. In the UK, the "chav" has disappeared. Chavs were basically extremely violent and territorial pests from council estate areas. They liked shellsuits and often liked gay rap music. They coincidentally vanished with the rise of trans and gay pride. The reason for this is that criminalistic bisexual and homosexual males have a different social dynamic compared to heterosexuals, who are more like lions who have to navigate the problem of being a comparatively tough alpha to survive, have status and get mates, while avoiding taking damage in wasteful engagements. Some contests are literally so low that girls will actually get mad at guys for engaging in them despite typically liking displays of violence and dominance.For the gay male, getting intimidate male attention and getting physical with men is like, it's own reward.MX are very much aware of these problems and could only speculate about the origin. Finding out street thugs were gay was always hilarious. Gen Z were raised to celebrate homosexuality, and thus, get bullied by openly gay men. Female bullying was always pretty high. Gen Z thus grow with the pressure to conform to gayness with heterosexuality being a source for mockery.
>>538532072Gen Z chicks are fine. Being male and straight is like.. a novelty to them. So just being a.. .guy is like, being some sort of viking rough wilderness man.
>>538538264>just a commenta component*>>538537865I see a lot of truth in this. A lot of zoomer Internet meme culture is basically watered down chan culture from 15+ years ago. The kids are talking about looksmaxxing and whatever-else-maxxing which is hilarious to me having seen people on /fit/ and /r9k/ essentially coin or popularize those kinds of terms in the late 2000's.I'm not angry with zoomers as a group, especially not for generational memes, but I also won't pretend there aren't clear cultural differences and that many of them aren't simply worse. Certain aspects of this look quite bleak desu.
>>538528013The beat genertion is us millennials who get our propaganda from BOTH the internet and TV. Y'all don't even know you can drink Baja blast and original coke zero at the same time.
>>538528013It’s not complicated. All of their behaviour is learned from watching niggers.
>>538538505>just being a guyI did notice that too with the few that I dated. I got the impression that simply being normal and authentic are novelties to them.
>>538538701I used the Internet to critique normalfags and society and the kinds of things I saw on TV. I "cut the cord" (got rid of cable) at a young age, or just never had it after I left home. The thing is that modern Internet dwellers are mostly normalfags. These same people, 25 years ago, would've bullied their peers if they found out they were spending too much time online.Zoomers get their political opinions from Hasan, Destiny, Fuentes et al. They're exactly like boomers watching Bill O'Reilly. It's uncanny.They seem very self-aware at times, but they proceed to do whatever it is that they seem to know is wrong despite that.
>>538538793Zoomers don't know that their culture is derived from black culture. If you ask them why they're speaking ebonics (or AAVE), they don't know what you're talking about. They think it's simply how young, fashionable people talk. White kids saying nigga, lmao
>>538538823I gather that they just don't want to have hard conversations and are mostly just fearful/propaganda westoid feminist mindedAlso there are less and less community spaces where people hang out because of ((immigrants)) when traditionally you had a lot more interaction even in your 20s with people around youDating apps really ruined it
>>538528013>What's the deal with that? Why aren't the youth today rebellious or independent?Zoomers are the generation that hear anti-semitic/anti-semitism thrown around and instinctively roll their eyes at it.
>>538539271>Dating appsI wish I knew how to meet women without these. I remember thinking 15 years ago that they were only for rejects and sluts, but now it seems like that's the standard way that people meet. I'd be more inclined to use them if they weren't so public somehow. It must've been a luxury to get pussy off of craigslist personal ads back in the day.
>>538528013Tell them to read a book. There I solved a generation's problem.
>>538539365They're just irreverent. Gen Z is not sincerely investigating ancient Jew-gentile dynamics. Even the recent anti-Israel fad/phase they went through is framed as a generic pro-Palestine position, something that has been a component of garden variety American liberalism since I was a teenager myself. It's good that muh Holocaust doesn't have the sway over them that it did with precious generations, but that's not a function of some kind of rebellious enlightenment.
>>538538455Are you sure chavs in council estates weren't simply replaced by Muslims and Arabs?
>>538539648Are you forgetting about the epstein shit, of the outcry against wokeness (cultural marxism)?
