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Meanwhile for every church that is closed, ten mosques are built in its place.
So how is christianity better if it can't survive against islam. Arguing for christianity is pointless if it can't stay alive.
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>>538529273
This is a retarded argument because Christianity began with twelve men and was relentlessly persecuted for hundreds of years and yet still came out on top. The Reconquista also began with just 300 men and yet retook the entire Iberian peninsula, just as the Hellenes stood their ground against Persia despite being exponentially outnumbered. It's never been about sheer numbers.
The fundamental disconnect with secular people is the complete failure to grasp that religion either is or is not divine truth, and that this is the only question regarding it that actually matters. If Christianity (specifically orthodox Christianity, ie Catholicism/EO/OO) is divine truth, which it is, then abandoning it because of some temporary perceived political inconvenience is absolutely retarded and inconceivable.
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>>538529273
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!!
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>>538529273
When the spirit is poured out to the masses (Joel 2:28-32 | Acts 2:16-21) it will change the world; will make many, and destroy a few
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>>538529799
Wow this comment has truly convinced me, this is so much more intellectual than the entire 2,000 year collection of insanely scholastic and exhaustive orthodox Christian apologia where every single question you could possibly imagine already has dozens if not hundreds of 800 page long autistic tracts written about it that discusses and answers it to its absolute most extant possible logical conclusion. Brb burning my bible and buying the God delusion right now
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>>538529273
why would you want a middle easter, j-word religion to be followed by europeans?
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>>538529273
>We wuz tolerate n' shieet
Kek
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>>538529273
Christcuckery is proto liberal faggotry. Introduced the absurd lie of egalitarianism into the West which eventually metastasized into all the various faggy secular liberal reflavourings of this utter horseshit of an idea during the so called enlightenment. All spiritual goyslop. Our ancient, pre-christcuck ancestors understood that equality/diversity is a lie and that strength/honor/justice and doing right by YOUR people are the only things that matter.
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>>538530842
The judeo-masonic atheistic French Revolution introduced egalitarianism retard. The Catholic Church has always upheld authority. We were monarchists who engaged in open warfare against egalitarian freemasons. Believing that all /souls/ are of equal value is not tantamount to secular egalitarianism and the abolishment of all forms of hierarchy or aristocratic/noble tradition.
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>>538530842
Also that's really funny considering pagan Rome was deracinated, miscegenated central that imported countless swarthoids into the heart of Europe and the Italian peninsula became Whiter under Christianity than it had been for hundreds of years.
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>>538530842
Kek. If Nazi retarded fags wuz only about the liberation of their people from the Abrahamic cult and not about shit & cum eating cannibal Aryan wewuzzery they would unite other races too against the Abrahamics but that's not what these demons fags are about in fact their agenda for the world is much more demonic than the Christers who promise only Christians safety that's why no Black & Brown rock with these retarded nazi fags.
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>>538529799
>i believe life is meaningless
>no i won't prove it by taking my own life
how come i won so easily vs you when this is ur full time job
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>>538529273
that’s the thing. It apparently can’t compete and gave up on western ethnic European peoples, cultures and nations. The various institutions can’t even find the strength within themselves to speak out about the west, our histories or our cultures in some kind of mildly positive way. it’s shitty but modern Christianity has become exclusively about hating your own nation, self, history and ethnicity if you were cursed by God by being born as an ethnic European. I don’t blame all of the people who are turning back to traditional religions or something like Buddhism. At least those things don’t spread a gospel of hating yourself, your people, nation and history.
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>>538531473
You didn’t win at all, that’s the most ridiculous argument I’ve ever heard. It’s pretty shitty and evil too.
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>>538531438
>t. Anti-ethnic European, anti-male Globohomo jew
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>>538531723
>noooo it's ridiculous and evil and shitty
those are religious arguments. i thought u people were supposed to be better, but obviously not.
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>>538531723
>muh fake god gives me meaning!
If that’s really the case you really should kys if you can’t find meaning without it. Millions of atheists find meaning without “muh sky fairy” and live full lives. Keep getting BTFO though.
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>>538531958
>can't even reply to the correct post
embarrassing
>noooo ur meaning is bad and also we can find meaning but choose not to share it because it's so embarrassing and pathetic even moreso than a skydaddy
feel free to share the meaning of your life so i can laugh some more at you
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>>538531803
Kill the jew
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>>538529566
>then abandoning it because of some temporary perceived political inconvenience is absolutely retarded and inconceivable.

The institutions, theology, narratives, and theologians themselves are all wildly against men and ethnic Europeans. When Christian Catholics conducted the reconquista in Spain, the institutions weren’t demonizing the Iberian men, their history, their ethnicities, and their kingdoms fag. The religion and institutions themselves were strongly aligned for those people precisely against the Muslims.
All of that is gone and has been gone for a very long time now. Not only is it not temporary, this is apparently the Christianity of the future.
Literally no one is gonna stand for institutions and theologians who can’t, won’t, and refuse to stand for anything about us.
If Christianity as a faith itself isn’t inherently against men, ethnic Europeans and western philosophy and history, it needs to figure out a way to embody that. We’re not going to do your work for you faggot. Priests and ministers sitting pretty on donations can worry about that kind of shit.
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>>538529273
Who cares what you think, kike-golem. Vermin.
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>>538531945
>being a shitty evil person no one wants to be around is a religious argument

Lmfao
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>>538532186
no
>muh heckin feelings are hurt and ur making me feel bad and it's not fair
is a religious argument
how can u comment on religion when u can't even read btw
>i totally read the hardest book to read even tho i struggle through cat in the hat
u really think people believe that? lmfao indeed.
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>>538529273
don't tolerate either and live happily.
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>>538531958
>can't name anything that gives his life meaning
>abandons the thread with tears streaming down his face
very easy win btw
if i see u around i'll be sure to rub it in every time
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>>538529273
Actually, speaking from a former Muslim myself, Christianity is doing a whole lot better than Islam right now and you have to be retarded to believe otherwise. The apostasy rate of Islam is skyrocketing, and it's projected to grow. Meanwhile, Christians are just evangelizing normally and are converting way, WAY more than Muslims. The only reason Islam is "growing" is due to high birth rates, and every single Muslim country has seen a drop in fertility. It's not just the Occident that had a drop in fertility, it's the whole world.
So if you take into account that nobody is converting to Islam (if they are, it's by force, or money), and that Muslims have just started to drop in fertility rate, I smell an imminent disaster for Islam.
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>>538529273
Christianity is NOT meant to save the world. It’s original purpose down to this day is to vindicate and sanctify God's name and reputation from the accusations of Satan. Some of you remember me constantly posting these posts.

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/528529495/#q528534771

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/528529495/#q528534871

Adam, Eve and Satan challenged God's sovereignty. Satan accused Jehovah of bribing Job in exchange for loyalty. Christianity is meant to answer those challenges. That's all.

>What is it meant to accomplish?

To prove three things:
>Satan is a liar
>Humanity cannot govern themselves
>Humans will be loyal to God in return for nothing.

>Was is the solution to all the world's problems?

After God is satisfied with those issues thoroughly being answered and accomplished he will bring Armageddon to earth. A one world government ruled by Jesus Christ as king. That regime is simply called God's Kingdom.
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>>538534549
Out of curiosity what made you quit Islam? What are you now? Do the other Muslims know? What's causing the skyrocketing of Islam. How can we help skyrocket it even more?
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>>538534895
>what made you quit Islam?
By reading both the Bible (Old and New Testament) and the Quran, and noticing all the differences between the two scriptures.
In Surah 5:46, it says that Allah has given the Gospel as guidance to the people. Next verse, it says: Let the people of the gospel judge by what Allah has revealed in the Quran. If the two books are a revelation of Allah, how come one says that Jesus is God and the other just says that he is a messenger.
Basically Islamic dilemma and also having a conflict on the morality of the prophet Muhammed. Some of the things he did weren't really perfect.
>What are you now?
Catholic.
>Do the other Muslims know?
My family knows. It's alright. My brothers don't really practice the religion the correct way either.
>What's causing the skyrocketing apostasy of Islam?
So just 20 years ago, there weren't really any apostasy going on with Islam. But right now? Holy shit dude it's like at least 20% apostasy rate. Depends on some countries, of course. In Iran, they did an anonymous survey in 2020 to ask which religion they were. Less than 40% were Muslim. I would say this is due to an easy access of information regarding Islam. You can access the Quran, all the Hadith passages, and the biography of Muhammed very easily with the Internet. And a lot of Islamic sources really don't hold up to scrutiny.
Also, Islam has gained a very, very negative image over the years, and a lot of Muslims don't want to be associated with rapists you know?
>How can we help skyrocket it even more?
By literally autistically debating Islam. Not even joking. Do you know David Wood by any chance? Yeah, people like him are the only ones informing Muslims of things their clergy wouldn't reveal, like Muhammed marrying Aisha, Muhammed having an affair with Zaynab, or Muhammed kissing a little boy (not joking btw).
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>>538529273
Just because kikes uses their muslims slaves to attack christians don't means it is true, try again
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>>538535752
Wow, interesting. I have actually been debating Muslims in the last few months. I have noticed they have to resort to blatant lying to defend Islam teachings. Some don't even debate us. They just type our answers into Chatgpt and ask Chatgpt to argue FOR Islam. They don't even answer us anymore. They depend on AI to do all the defending instead. A robot can defend Islam better then they can at this point.

I'm a Jehovah's Witness, btw.
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>>538535752
>In Iran, they did an anonymous survey in 2020 to ask which religion they were. Less than 40% were Muslim.
Is that why Zohran Mamdani was elected because islamist are becoming Atheists? Kek. This apostasy flood is a meme from Christer apologetics they can't even turn Islamists in their Western countries where freedom of religion is a right into apostates but fantasize about turning islamist in Theocratic sharia cult countries into apostates and they ALWAYS mention Shiite retards in Iran when Ali was the first one who was killing apostates. Kek.
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