Consider a hypothetical scenario regarding a man who owns no clothes.He is completely naked. If he steps outside, he will be arrested by police and sent to jail or a mental hospital.But in order to buy new clothes, he needs money, which requires a job, which requires him be clothed in order to work.The unclothed man is punished simply for existing.Doesn't that mean clothing should be a human right? You are required by law to cover yourself, yet society throw you to the wolves if you are naked.Discuss.
type of arguments leftists make lmao
>>538531074And yet you have no argument.
>>538530850Make your own clothesLearn to weave and sew
prison jumpsuits are free for the prisoner
>>538531281>starting a sentence with "and"oof
>>538530850>hypotheticalI currently dont have an address, which is illegal. I had one but the government removed it.If you wonder, it turns out you cant do anything without an address, at all. Its a pretty big pain in the ass really
>>538530850he can simply wear a fig leaf
>>538530850It might as well already be a human law, because you will be freely and frequently offered clothing articles at almost all points of your life. Even if taken by police, you will be provided with some form of attire.This does not mean that clothing outside of baseline, plain covering should be provided free of charge, as there is already ample opportunity to obtain it everywhere.
>>538531074What's your argument Jew?
>>538530850The government and special interest group do actually give away clothing, though.
>>538531547>tries to insult me>capitalises the insult to show graceLMAO
>>538531407Do you guy's have PO boxes in Denmark?
>>538530850Terminator clearly demonstrated what to do. OP is just an uncultured swine
>>538530850does he not have a blanket or towel or paint or a cardboard box? myopic 4iq retard
>>538531461ThisYou can go dumpster diving literally anywhere in the world and clothe entire family in no time. We definitely are in post-scarcity when it comes to clothing.
True. Thankfully you can just get free clothing at places.
>>538531629Idk. I have no idea what that is. I dont work at the post office or anything right now
>>538531407Torben wtf
>>538530850>Doesn't that mean clothing should be a human right?I mean you do make kind of a good point but you have clothes since you're a kid at no point do you ever lose all your clothes
>>538531074fpbp but not because of what you think.anon is right. the hypothetical scenario in OP is a left wing argument. because left wing politics approaches the world with a "what should be" mindset. the world should enable a rational, good willed person to just get some free clothes. right wing politics see the naked man and KNOW there is a very high chance his nakedness is connected to violence, or irrationality, or mental illness. they see the "world as it is". they know that he is most likely a danger and not in this situation free of blame.
>>538530850Yeah. Everything in the bottom section of Maslows hierarchy of needs should by default be a human right. A human default economical setting even. Housing is the same story but the shillfags will fight against you.
>>538531775Explain it to the police in a calm rational voice and they'll set you up with welfare to get you clothes ffs...That dude looks like a psycho boojums on some kind of bad drugs. He serves no purpose in society except as a strong argument for the 2nd Amendment and concealed carry.
>>538531848hey
>>538531882The focus lies in >what should be and how to make it soor>what is and how to deal with itand they are not necessarily contradicting each other. humans should learn to hold nuanced positions. honestly their simpleness disgusts me.
make him wear a fucking barrell like bums used to do in the olden days
>>538531629This is also a problem in the US. Lots of government things or businesses refuse to ship things to a PO Box. It is, like the Dane said, a real pain in the ass.
>>538530850Bro, that's some deep shit fr fr, no cap.
>>538530850You're trying to sound smart and it's backfiring big time, dumb fuck
>>538532068Yeah. You cant have a bank account so theres nowhere to deposit lets say, a pile of money, so you cant actually get a place to live because they are going to want some kind of financial compensation.Cant get gibs either and they hand that shit out to damn near everyone
>>538530850But have you considered that they give you clothes in prison, so afte he's done his time, the unclothed man would have procured the means for employment. So in a way society already satisfies his right to cloth.
>>538532189They dont even verify address if it is your actual address. Just have a family member let you use the address. My bank mails me 1 letter a year for taxes.Or put a business address in and their accounting or HR femoid that gets mail will throw it out.
>>538530850A "Right" is something god-given that can't be taken. Clothing can be removed from you. Thoughts can't, so you have a "right" to your opinions. You also have a god-given right to speech, even if you'll be punished for it. Nobody can stop you from having a sentiment.Food, healthcare, all that liberal shit? Not rights. Those are called "privileges," because they require effort to obtain. If you want everyone to have those things, its up to you to provide them. (In the case of the Unclothed Man scenario, all he has to do is knock on any random door and say "hey guys I find myself without pants. Do you have extra pants I can have?" Problem solved.)
>>538530850Wear a sack
>>538531869>point do you ever lose all your clothesWhat if you play on a full loot PvP server like Baltimore where you can get attacked on the streets and even your clothes stolen
>>538531990How can you afford a barrel but not cheap used clothes? Barrels are more expensive
>>538530850Fortunately this does not happen in Canada.You can cover your penis with a leaf. Can't you, leafy?
>>538532068>>538532189In the USA we have businesses that provide virtual-addresses. They're for people who live in vehicles. (Usually snowbirds in their RVs.) Its just a warehouse with storage space you rent, and a staff that receives mail for you. The nicer places will forward your deliveries to wherever you want, or you can pick them up in person. I have friends who use one in Texas that scans their paper mail and emails it to them. You should open that business if Europe doesn't already have it, Dane. You'll be rich in socialism-bucks. Just market it to long-term tourists.
>>538532189I know in the US you can use a UPS Box (costs money), a USPS Post Office box (US Government mail system) doesn't cover everything, but it could probably cover things like getting an ID or making a bank account. You can also have the USPS reroute everything to the UPS box.Then there's using someone else's address, but I feel like you would've done that already if you could, or don't want anyone to know what's going on. Sometimes people ask a place they frequent and know the people there if they can borrow their address for mail. Restaurants, Gyms, that sort of thing.
>>538531074kek
>>538530850If you have no clothes then call your local church and ask for some. They will very likely bring you some pants and a shirt. Problem solved. You're welcome.
The hypothetical is solved by the man finding literally anything in the outside world to cover himself After making a good faith effort to cover himself, he goes to a shelter and finds more appropriate clothing
>>538532953Nope. Maybe a mosque or synagogue. Christian churches have already been exposed to not help the needy when asked. A Christian church would never do such a a thing.
>>538530850First off, how the fuck does he not have clothes? This hypothetical sucks because unless some dragonborn with Sneak: 100 just pick pocketed his pants off, there is no conceivable scenario in which a reasonable man has no clothing. Second, and more to the point, nothing that requires effort to produce can be free. Housing, food, transportation, healthcare, clothing if you like; they all require resources, stuff that doesn't just grow on trees, and the ones that DO grow on trees still require someone picking them and bringing them to the needy. Either the person consuming your "human right" must provide compensation, someone must provide compensation on their behalf, or the producer is de facto enslaved. The first thing is capitalism, the second is either charity or socialism, and the third is communism, which is why everyone starves in communism: farmers decide not to be slaves. Also, socialism is communism, except you're enslaving the taxpayers instead of the farmers, because you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. It's slightly more abstract, so people don't quit en masse as soon.
>>538531296This is the answer. Often you can find clothes laying around on the ground.There is no such thing as human rights. We are animals, there are no gods and morality is just an agreed upon framework of things we don't want done to ourselves or our "in-group" starting with pain, progressing through loss of resources (pain) and further on to minor inconvienences (minor pains). We're nowhere close to evolving past being a bunch of violent horny apes. Play the game, let the cops arrest you and they'll provide you clothes of some kind on release. Congratulations, you've passed the test. The gates to paradise are now open to you.
>>538531281Nigger you can wrap yourself in trash, turn in a bunch of cans and bottles for pennies, then spend those pennies on clothes at Goodwill. Your argument is peak midwit and your lack of a solution is proof of your idiocy. Go be a faggot somewhere else.
>>538533238>Be a grifter taking charity you don't need>Charitable organization tells you to take a hike, it's for the needyYeah, let me just go count on a kike's generosity, "An outfit? What do you need a pair of shorts for? You'd really take my last g-string from me?"
>>538530850I do think men should get basic clothes if they make an effort to wear them, yes.And some member of society with surplus clothes may already provide them until he has employment, for which action some honesty gratitude is ideally given.
>>538530850>go outside and get people's attention>police are called on you>retreat to your home before they arrive>they show up at your door>legally you are allowed to be naked in your own home, even when you answer the door, as long as you cover yourself with something>use anything you can to cover up>answer the door>explain your situation>the police will get you clothes from a homeless shelter>you now have clothes>you can now go out, earn money, and buy more clothesOr even shorter version:>go out naked>get arrested>be given clothes in jail>now have clothes
>>538530850Realistically, if a man is in such an "emergency" scenario, and is dropped off in any city, police will actually just clothe the man. For free, as a part of emergency services. Especially if the man has been a victim of a crime. They are not going to just toss your naked ass into the slammer. You will 100% be able to explain to a judge WHY you were in that scenario and a reasonable (ie not a foid or Jew judge) judge will side with you if for some reason the cops are assholes and want to jail you. Same with a jury, you can ask for that and plead your case a a jury, unless full of foids, will let you off.The naked laws are for PERVERTS who are streaking to get their jollies off or drunk/drugged fucks who are pissing about making problems. If some nigger gang strips you down and takes all of your shit via mugging, you are going to be taken care off by the system for the most part. And if it fails, people tend to win compensation for that. Note that if you aren't mugged and somehow became naked through fucking about and becoming unemployed and homeless, you have thrown away your free public education and the state will likely punish you. BUT before that happens, there are tons of charities that will try to fix your ass. Food banks, clothing donations, shelters - they all exist and are there as safety nets for this exact scenario. So while the police might not help, these people will. *Assuming not overloaded by Jeets.
>>538530850The Police will arrest him for public indecency here.
>>538533567There are two scenarios that lead to the OP's situation:1. Nigger Mugging. Nigger mugging can result in the victim stripped completely to humiliate the pathetic [white] person being mugged. I believe even sitcoms like Big Bang made this a joke scenario for Sheldon once. 2. Man is unskilled, threw away his free public education because low IQ, and become unemployed and homeless. Followed by deterioration or theft of existing clothes. The latter has various groups working as safety nets to provide clothing, shelter and food. Clothing specifically has so much donations we send that shit to Africa en mass to deal with the excess. Food has food banks that people regularly donate to. Shelters take homeless people in. They all work to get people sorted out and productive again. The former (nigger mugging) is less complicated but assumes you have a home to go back to. You get put in a bad situation, cops will clothe you and typically send you back home. To where you can re-equip and then fix all the theft shit. And even if you freak the fuck out in cop custody and they have to jail you, congrats you earned your orange jumpsuit and you are clothed again. In shelter to boot!All other scenarios are nonsensical, but would play out like the mugging one. Like if aliens abducted you and returned you nude. Or if you were kidnapped, stripped and then dropped off some where random. All basically follow the nigger mugging pattern - you report what happened, cops take care of you, and you get back home and re outfit. Everyone else is getting processed for protesting nude or flashing kids nude.
>>538530850Vermont has no public nudity laws so this catch 22 wouldnt apply there
>>538534935Note the >without lawful excuse bit of that law. That is there for exempting people who are victims of crimes and other reasonable positions. If you are nude through no fault of your own (aka you aren't a flasher), this law won't apply to you. But if you are fucking around, this law provides the find out.
>>538531990That barrel is 200$ these days
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