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There's serious talks in Europe about reducing sick leave for wagies.

The other day, that retarded german politician was basically saying
>We can't afford to be on sick leave half the time, guys!! You have to work!!
(their government singlehandedly dismantled most german industry but I guess that doesn't count)

Now there's the same in Spain. The main cuckservative party leader said
>Spain can't afford this
and
>Workers shouldn't be paid the same amount whether they go to work or not

What the fuck is this shit. They destroy industry and then they blame workers and decide we can't take sick leaves. It reminds me of their "austerity" that consisted of a massive tax increase for wagies.
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Nigger. On average you guys are at work for only 205 days out of the year. On average. Cry moar. You've got it good. Get the fuck over yourself.
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>>538572515
so? that's a good thing
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>>538571724
Trump wins the argument on NATO spending. Europe suddenly can't afford their infinite gibs anymore.
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All of the benefits euros had over Americans are QUICKLY being eroded and I think that's interesting
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>>538574452
This. Every other country stops functioning as soon as America stop subsidizing them.
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>>538571724
When you realize employment is modern day slavery (ancient slavery) it will make sense.
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>>538571724
Based. I'd love nothing more than to see lazy euro cucks be forced to work the same way Americans are.
You lazy faggots deserve it.
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Fertility rates are negative and population is aging worldwide. Sorry wagies, but boomers need someone to work.
And those magical numbers in stock market still need to go up or system will collapse.
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>>538571724
Lol niggers
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My employer gives us 20 sick days a year and any sick days that don't get used up just roll over for the rest of my working life. I can also use these sick days if any of my immediate family members are sick just to help provide care. So far have almost 200 sick days banked. It gives me a sense of security, if I or one of my kids becomes seriously ill we'll be fine. And even if I did end up using all my sick days it would be fine because my employer would just put me on a long term leave and just pay me a discounted rate.
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>>538572764
We’re past the era of good things being good things, you’re joining us on the exploitation escalator until we’re all treated like Indians.
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>>538571724
Sounds like your leaders have decided its time to get back to work and pay for all that free helthcare because they have to spend that money on defense now lmao
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>>538577878
>xir posts as he wants to use the government to exploit buisnesses
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>>538571724
wagie goyim get what they deserve
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>>538571724
the elites prepping everyone to be feudal style slaves.
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Nothing wrong with not paying full rate of not working.
If people are chronic ill they shouldn't be working in a job they should get better
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>>538577878
Fuuuuuuuuuuucccckkkkkkk
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>>538577954
The government is exploiting everyone by importing you and your family. Workers get their wages driven down annd rights reduced, incompetence damages the companies, public areas get filled with trash and become open air toilets. You servile beasts are not clever or savvy, you’re just attractive to governments and industries that want to reduce morale. You offer nothing.

If you had a room with 50 jeets assigned to a task versus an empty room, the empty one would be more productive at the end of the day because it wouldn’t need a cleaning crew afterward.
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>>538571724
Europeons are just a bunch of cucks hands down, see how they waited exactly for the Goy Cup for this shit?

But then no word about maternity leave or welfare queens. Workers a just the shabbos goys of foids and arabic chads
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>>538574452
>>538574601
How does it feel to always spout absolute random bullshit without even the slightest actual knowledge into a topic?
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>>538571724
>(their government singlehandedly dismantled most german industry but I guess that doesn't count)
Take that Putler!!
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>>538574570
get fucked losers we still got our high sal...
we got closed bor....
we got freedom of....

well we do have universal healthcare!!!!
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>>538580393
Oh the healthcare one is gonna be amazing, I hope they take it away at the start of next summer. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD ERUOFAGS.
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>>538571724
>What the fuck is this shit.
uncontrolled nepotistic parasitism
this only ends when the parasites that have infested the system are purged
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>>538580713
Buddy the “you’re too late” conversation has been over. You’re too late to “you’re too late”.
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>>538574570
The moment the US (IL TRUMPO) said, "no, we won't be your cost free mercenary army against Russia" the Yuros realized the jig was up
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>>538574452
This makes zero sense retard.

Literally anyone should be able to figure that out without even looking up any info. The US has military bases around the world. If the military bases they had in Europe were expensive enough that life in Europe would change if they were ours to maintain, then the US would be dirt poor from all the bases around the world.

If you had any inner thoughts and wasn't an NPC, you would know that. But I have a feeling that you'll also not even understand it even now that I spelled it out.
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>>538574570
Yup. We finally have to PAY!!! We got the bill for the tariffs and NATO for all the years of abusing America!!

t. Trump brainrot
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>>538580140
It probably feels great. NPCs and midwits are always so smug and so self righteous. I can only imagine how good they must feel about their stupid thoughts.
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>>538575494
we pay more taxes than you, retard, working hard doesn't pay off in here, and now they want to take away our only cope
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>>538571724
nice social democracy bro.
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>>538577769
>So far have almost 200 sick days banked.
I have inifinte sick days banked.

Here's what would happen if I got seriously ill:
- Sick leave for months or years. Some businesses would fire you after a while and just pay you a settlement of a few tens of thousands of €. Big corps won't for years.
- Same pay.

I just spent 3 months like that because I was depressed.
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>>538581534
>just spent 3 months like that because I was depressed.
Lmao what a joke
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>>538577952
You are an NPC with no inner thoughts.

You hear Trump say something multiple times and just accept it as true even if it makes zero logical sense. You don't even have to do the maths to know that's probably not how it works.

If the EU could not afford self defense without dismantling social services, then how is the US paying for all the military bases around the world?
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>>538579827
based
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>>538581643
>then how is the US paying for all the military bases around the world?
With our big dick defense spending
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>>538581583
No I was really depressed. I have no gf. It's tough.

I work from home anyway but had a hard time focusing.
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>>538581727
>No I was really depressed.
Yea IDC I mean you are a joke, your coutnry is a joke. Its all a joke
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>>538572515
should be like 100 tops
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>>538581861
>100 days? You want me to work 70 days! How can I work 40 days! Oy vey
OK rabbi
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Based. There unironically needs to be more leverage against labor workers. We know very well each and every trick you use to shave off your labor on company time - secret bathroom breaks, feigning being "busy", etc. It needs to be uncovered and destroyed.

You are entitled to compensation. You are NOT entitled to work.
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>>538581988
Based leaf
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>>538581696
Like I said, you dont even have to look up any numbers (which people should do anyway, before accepting something as true just from repeated media stimuli) to know this makes no logical sense.

Since most people in the US do not work in defense, it can't possibly be that high. In fact, I just looked it up and it's less than 5%. It is a tiny part of government spending. And our governments have more money since we pay insane taxes.

It was never a problem to have those public services such as socialized healthcare while paying for defense. That is 100% just something that Trump says.

>>538581753
At least I am not an NPC like you who believes in whatever Trump says.

The "I have no gf, it's tough" was a joke but I was unironically depressed.

Also you're goycattle if you think that I should've felt depressed and needed to take a break and should've just pushed through it and worked anyway. I'm not cattle.
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>>538581988
Jeet sand nigger detected
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>>538581643
Lmao, the retard projects as he spews his retard brain vomit. If the EU could afford self-defense and free healthcare at the same time, you would have both. Without having society slave more. Problem is, you can't have because you're poor as fuck. Which is why you will be put to the grindstone you simpleton nigger.
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a transition period from a society with a high level of trust to a society with a low level of trust, eliminating everything that could theoretically be exploited by a low-IQ monkey labour force.

thoughts?
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>>538582167
Go collect your welfare and shut up, nigger.
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>>538582108
>Like I said, you dont even have to look up any numbers (which people should do anyway, before accepting something as true just from repeated media stimuli) to know this makes no logical sense.
Lol the most zoomer fucked logic
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>>538582323
Go rape some cows back in your homeland you inbred subhuman
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>>538582416
>I AM ENTITLED TO WELFARE
>I AM ENTITLED TO A COMFORTABLE LIFE
>I AM ENTITLED TO LIVE LIKE ROYALTY
>I WILL NOT PUT IN EFFORT
>I WILL NOT PULL MY WEIGHT
>MOMMY MOMMY GIVE ME MY FUCKING TENDIES REEEEEEEEEEEE
NEETs are spiritually niggers.
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>>538571724
No more siesta, jose
You vill do the work even when sick and you vill be happy
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>>538582511
Nigger nigger is a nigger
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>>538571724
What's the matter? Economically uncompetitive? If only you didn't cut yourself off from cheap resources that drove the economy.
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>>538582253
Kek, what a retard.

You don't understand the first thing about how politics work.

>If the EU could afford self-defense and free healthcare at the same time, you would have both
That is not how politics work, specially in a democracy. If they don't have to pay for self defense, they won't. If it may become a problem in the future when someone else is in power, they don't care. They'd rather spend that money on gibs and buy votes.

Has the US government ever operated on that logic anyway? They can afford self defense and healthcare at the same time, and you don't have both. They can afford to make healthcare much, much more affordable than it is, at no cost, just by changing some laws, and you don't even have that. Do you ever wonder why?

>Without having society slave more.
There is zero correlation between those two. There's other completely unrelated reasons (basically government incompetence) for the decline of european economy. Governments here not affording self defense is 100% a Trump thing.
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>>538582253
>>538582391
Incomprehensible, I know.

You really have very limited cognitive abilities, and anything mildly hard to understand will have zero effect on your opinions.

Your opinions are shaped by people who are professionals at talking to big masses of stupid people and convincing them of a narrative. I do not have that skill, I can only tell you how this actually works, but it will still be incomprehensible to you, as it involves a few logical steps, so naturally you'll say I am lying. Well, I tried.
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>>538571724
I don't really care about them reducing sick leave. Most people affected are either slackers, niggers or boomers. However our Industry is in the gutter due to horrible governance and resulting low contracts and sales. Reducing sick leave is a PowerPoint improvement.
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>>538583268
Democracy is all about powerpoint improvements. Kek.

Ok, most people affected are slackers. But have you considered that being a slacker is the only way a job makes sense these days? What do you want to do, work hard for peanuts? How is Europe better than the third world then if we cant even be lazy?
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>>538583475
Europe is ruled by shitskin rapists

It is 3rd world
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>>538571724
It's happening in Norway as well.

>New billing rates implemented on July 1, 2026, for Norwegian general practitioners create financial incentives for reducing full sick leave, setting fees at 5 NOK for full leave, 25 NOK for partial leave, and 50 NOK for finding alternatives.

Private practitioners are not affected by the new billing rates, only the poorest of the wage slaves will be forced to work while sick.
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>>538580990
US never spent a cent on European security. Fighting wars for Israel in middle east and then writing it off as military spending is just fraud, not protecting Europe.
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>>538583559
Wait so basically, norwegian doctors get paid less if patients take sick leaves? Jfl. Like if I got it right, you go to a doctor, ask for a sick leave, and if he approves it, it costs him 5 NOK?

It's insane how these fucking stupid european politicians respond to problems.

Back in 2014 they decided government spending was too much, and they needed to get serious and run things properly! So they did a massive increase on worker income taxes to match the spending. That didn't work out, so now they just eternally print money for the public spending, as "austerity didn't work".

Back in 2008 lots of homes were built, due to the money printing, and they became cheap when they stopped printing money and there was a recession. So now they are forcing expensive housing prices and ruining people's lives, probably because they think the economy will be bad again if housing prices go down.

Now they dismantled industry, ruined trade with Russia, ruined nuclear power, every day they kill so many businesses with paperwork requirements, and they decided the solution to a declining economy is making wagies work sick.

They are both evil and fucking stupid.
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>>538571724
Lmao never happening here thanks to our unions.
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>>538583879
If the doctor gives you full leave he makes NOK 5.
If he gives you partial leave, he makes 25 NOK.
If he makes you go to work, he makes NOK 50.
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>>538584134
ahh I see

that's even worse, agreeing to full leave costs them 45 nok

that's insane
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>>538584231
16 posts of reddit spacing
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>>538571724
I spend half a year, every year, on sick leave lol. Sure, i get paid less, but i still get paid.
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>>538584325
that's not what reddit spacing is, you fucking retard, you repeat it and dont even know what it originally meant, or why people said it

why is "reddit spacing" a thing? do you even know?
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>>538572515
Look guise it's the world Cup LOSERS !!!

AHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAAHAHAH
HEY LOOSER

4-SK1N LMFAOOOOO
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>>538583475
>What do you want to do, work hard for peanuts?
No. What you do is, take advantage of the system whenever possible. Rip off the education system by getting a good degree for cheap and then fuck off to east europe for low crime rate or usa for high pay.
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>>538585153
>jugaad pilled
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Real Americans go to work sick and cause their coworkers to become sickas well, because that's the American way, eurocucks. Company profits first.
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>>538571724
All the wagie breeders depend on the government to protect their tax spawn from Tyrone and Abdul as well as you chuds. Most people are docile breeder wagies who have no interest in any revolution or radical change, never mind risking their life for anything. All they care about is waging so that their tax spawn can survive into adulthood and perpetuate the cycle.
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>>538585153
You're right. But you didn't do that, as you're in Germany. Tbf, I didn't either, I may in the future, but I like living in Spain.

So, wouldn't you want to keep the one thing we have going for us? Because the way I see it, if they keep tanking the economy, but "fix" it by removing all worker protections, that's just a horrible deal for workers.
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>Reducing sick leave

Show up to work anyway and just puke all over the place. Not my problem.
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>>538585771
>But you didn't do that, as you're in Germany
I'm one year into my degree
Worker protections have been achieved over many years, but I wouldn't count easy sick leave as one. Keeping "the one thing we have going for us" is costly and possible only if legislation reduces spending and improves the overall financial situation. You can only have workers rights inside of a running economy.
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>>538583879
Daily reminder that mainstream """conservatives""" never had your back in the first place. Conservative politicians are the biggest niggers of politics. They stand for nothing. Any tradition they pretend to fight for is just performative.

>>538586518
>You can only have workers rights inside of a running economy.

We could just deport all the fugees and social spendings would drop over night.
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>>538586682
Here >>538583268
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>>538571724
>Workers shouldn't be paid the same amount whether they go to work or not
This sounds very reasonable. It could maybe work in an all white society, but they have to get rid of policies like these as they import more browns who would inevitably abuse it
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>>538586518
>I'm one year into my degree
Then you don't know what you will do. Now you of course say "leaving Germany makes sense", but maybe when it comes to it, you'll want to feel at home even if they steal a big % of your wage for shit public services.

And then, I think what I am saying is reasonable. Which basically boils down to "If you're going to fix the system, do it right. If you're not going to fix it (or will only do powerpoint improvements as you put it), then let me cope in peace."

Easy sick leave is key. It means you get sick and think it may be serious, and financial stability is not on your mind as an additional source of anxiety.



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