Why does this simple quote make lefties want to cut their wrists?
>>538595554The irony is you are going to do it in response to the answer.
>>538595554hey dont have a comeback at this, just a no u
>>538595554>MIGA trannies projecting their intellectual dishonesty on some abstract boogeyman because no argumentwow never seen that one before
>>538595554We understand you completely, we just think you're retarded and are expressing how retarded you are. You don't understand because of that and mistake being told this for someone not understanding you.
Conservatives don't pretend to not understand things, they just don't understand them at all
>>538595659>>538595707>>538595772>>538595791nice op.you triggered many snowflakes kek
>>538595554It's a good quote but you retards are over using it for every argument you have no matter the topic even when it makes no sense
>>538595829Being a retard who doesn't understand socratic irony does not make you a winner.
>>538595554you're doing the same thing fucking idiot
>>538595554i don't get it.
We understand that you believe lies. Sorry that you're uneducated and foolish to fall for Fox propaganda.
>>538595554Conservatives play dumb all the time.
>>538595554I get a bit suicidal when teenagers try to engage me too
um, its actually called socratic irony?
>>538595969No no it really is incoherent, you literally use "fascism" to mean anything you don't like.
>>538595554Saying we don't understand is really you not understanding what we are saying so there, you lose again drumphfatardino
>>538595870Ive never heard of socratic irony, can you give an example?
>>538595659The only thing getting probed is most likely your bussy. Show me the probing.
>>538595829It has never been hard.
>>538596011except it says nothing about the other side's message. once again booknerd liberal faggot read something in a book and was so anxious for a chance to term-drop it he never took the time to actually understand what it meant and how it categorically doesn't apply. many such cases with fake intellectuals.
>>538596343You are missing the part where they probe you. That is when the magic happens.
>>538595870The irony is that the conflation with OP's post with Socratic Irony is an example of OP's post.
>>538595659Oof must have hit a nerve huh?
the funny thing is that that guy is an homosexual and a pedophilelook it up
>>538596559Holy shit. There are computers in Catalonia?
>>538595554Jewish intellectual dishonesty is their trap card.
>>538596559We all know that, genius. Socrates was literally sentenced to death in a court of law for homosexual pedophilia. His students made it into a whole big stageplay.
>>538596011They would know that if they went to college.
>>538595772>we understand you completely OP's image says you fags pretend not to understand *things*, and it's true.You faggots pretend that things simply work the way you are told, and nothing more or less.>social programs cannot be abused because only people who were approved can get themThis is a leftist view. Leftists pretend to not understand that fraud happens at the approval level>illegal immigrant gets approved even though they aren't eligible >nigger gets arrested for violent crime and gets released>nigger commits another violent crime and gets released again"He hasn't been convicted of anything yet. This is how things are supposed to work"Leftists really do ignore reality and pretend things are simply the way they are supposed to be. It's impossible to have discourse with Leftists because they don't operate in reality
>>538595554Probably because it's such a hilarious example of the exact opposite of what is true
>>538595554It's annoying because it's smug and wrong. That's it. It's not that deep. It's additionally annoying from an oldfag perspective because it's a Twitter screencap.
>>538595659>muh aiThe next generation is doomed
>>538595554He is LITERALLY jewish
I just assume they are retarded, probably because they are mostly brown
>>538595554The word disingenuous used to be a word you learned in 6th grade and never used again. Because of the Republicans, it's relevant many times a day. You're a troll, go drink vodka and eat potatoes and borscht and fuck your sister
>>538595659the whole leading to contradiction part never really happens, though, they just act obtuse until the uncomfortable topic goes away
>>538597060and how exactly does that affect your life?
>>538595554Because it is dead on.
>>538595870Communist scum isn't engaging in Socratic irony. Lying faggot.
>>538595554>imageI see /pol/ do that all the time when it comes morality, atheism, evolution, space, flat earth etc. Pure projection.
>>538597060Yup. You literally just try to get them to actually interact and inhabit their stated opinions but then they pretend you're being unreasonable and strut around like a headless chicken. It's a pretty gay and cringe way to interact with the world, but asking them to interact in good faith is kind of like asking a dog to whistle Mozart -- not only are they too fucking stupid to know what "Mozart" is, they can't even fucking whistle in the first place.
>>538597132Because these people vote, and voting results in people winning elections. If this totally unserious attitude is the dominant mode of interacting with politics, it's going to result in poor outcomes... because contrary to peepeepoopoo Twitterposting, politics actually matters. It changes things in the real world.
>>538596030but enough about communism
>>538595554The op refers to things like faggot communist shitmouthed scumsucks acting like since you can ctrl-f "well-regulated" in the US 2nd amendment that they can just ignore the sentence structure and word definitions in the sentence and make up whatever conclusion they want. That is not anywhere near Socratic irony. Anybody bringing up Socratic irony is pretending not to understand things.
>>538596125>Ive never heard of socratic irony, can you give an example?The irony lies in the fact that you just proved FPBP correct, thanks for playing.
>>538595998>>538596011Studies have been done that show the right can fairly accurately describe the left's worldview (ie: apply empathy), but leftists cannot accurately describe the right's worldview at all, they just return a word salad of every bad thing they can think of. The idea you could have different values and focuses that generate different priorities, or that you could agree on a problem, and disagree on a solution is entirely alien to them. The only reason you'd disagree with them is because you're a mustache twirling cartoon villain who must do the bad thing no matter what.>muh socratic ironyThe biggest tell that this is a cope is that it took 6 months to come up with. Leftists will passionately argue with you that mass immigration doesn't drive up housing costs and drive down wages. That isn't socratic irony, that is being a philosophical zombie and not being able to deviate from the "immigrant gud" position no matter what.
>>538597491Wokeism is communism. It is neo-Marxist. Fuck off.
>>538597605>Studies have been doneBy who? Fuckin daily wire? Kek
>>538596858>fraud happens at the approval levelThat's pure retardation, fraud happens at the vendor level cheating the government.
>>538597567But I am very humble here and do not know. You you just explain the positions of Socratic irony?
>>538597723>But I am very humble here and do not know. You you just explain the positions of Socratic irony?Here's another level of irony for you; git gud fagit.Or better yet, have sex, incel.
>>538597710Holy fuck you're retarded.>illegals don't get approvedHow fucking stupid are you? And in what fucking universe am I retarded for pointing that out? Are you a nigger, a woman, a retard, or some combination of the three?
>>538597491When is communism ever misused? Oh yeah, when liberals are trying to pretend Jesus was a commie even though the Bible literally defines in black and white terms what is a neighbor, what is a traveler, and what is an illegal immigrant ie a thief that doesn't enter your land through the gate.
Part of the pretending to not understand is also trying to dissimulate using made up definitions for common words. When the lying commie shitmouth uses words like inclusion, diversity, freedom, etc. they don't mean those as a normal person would understand. The whole point is to trick people into supporting some other definition that the demented commie freak has. They really are lying cocksuck shitmouths.
>>538597710>be in a thread talking about how leftists pretend not to understand things>reply with a post that indicates you are pretending not to understand thingsTypical leftist. Even in a thread calling out your behavior you do the exact thing that got called out
>>538597694>mass immigration doesn't drive up housing costs and drive down wagesWhat's your take on this?
>>538596030i like it when they spell it facism
>>538595554>>538595659This guy is right, but it only works if there is a flaw in the argument.If you're a conservative, then at core you're a liberal - a liberal in the classical sense. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal." That kind of liberal. "Self-evident" means "a belief without evidence". It's a 18th century way of saying "we assume."Take the border. If everyone is equal, then, by definition, everyone is the same. If everyone is the same, then how can you possibly have a preference for one group of people over another? All of conservative politics dies on this sticking point.Or you can refuse the doctrine of equality. This is called "racism" and "sexism". They are "hate crimes". But hatred is just the modern name for heresy against the liberal faith.The world makes a lot more sense when you look at people and say, "yea, they're not the same. It's unreasonable to treat them the same, or to expect the same things from them." It's also a lot more logically consistent with the politics you want to accomplish, like putting up a wall between us and them.
>>538597561Another one these disingenuous niggers wheel out is Occam's razor. They either don't understand or don't care that Occam's razor only applies to explainations that address all data, and they wheel it out to handwave away any nuance without actually having to address the argument.>>538597694You know the study already and you're pretending to be stupid
>>538598128>If everyone is the same, then how can you possibly have a preference for one group of people over another?Browns aren't people.
>>538597819ah, so you have no argument. thank you for admitting that you are wrong
>>538595554LOLLefty defectives seething in this very threadThey're so mad all the time
>>538597890>How fucking stupid are you? And in what fucking universe am I retarded for pointing that out?>oh noes muh illegals go to muh emergency room and the state pays for it after the fact>oh noes muh based white south African refugees get treated the same as Afghanis and Nigerians and Ukrainians>Oh noesIt's not illegal when it's the law dipshit. You're mad you're too retarded to study how the system works. Git gudAlso>implying that one's lack of use of benefits makes you superiorGet off your high horse before you break your neck on the ground as it throws you off.You're too broke to pretend to be right-wing, and the proof is you posting here instead of stacking muh fat cash.
>>538595659>>538595870>>538596011I see the new party line has been uploaded.
>>538598302>so you have no argumentLiterally >NO UThe post.You never had one in the first place.>>538598352>defectives seethingThis you in the picrel?
>>538595554because they aren't pretending
>>538598128"Self-evident" means "a belief without evidence". It's a 18th century way of saying "we assume."What a depraved oversimplification.These people should be deported.
i wish there were some doctrinaire marxist leninist or better yet stalinists around you know old school 'if you want to make an omelette you have to crack some fucking skulls' kind of commies
>>538598061>Typical leftist. Even in a thread calling out your behavior you do the exact thing that got called outBecause we know your outage is fake and we see all the based white people collecting benefits same as muh illegals. You're just mad you're not in control like you think you used to be, when you never really were lol.>>538598229>Browns aren't people.Somehow I don't think you care that much, considering all the white girls you grew up with find you repulsive.
>>538598976have sex
Conservative cope for whenever someone disagrees with their assumptions or asks them to actually explain their argument. I feel like only 10-20% of conservatives are capable of arguing in good faith (not using facially invalid arguments or outright lying).
>>538598567The tranny discord got the memo.
>>538597491The critical difference is that about four political movements have referred to themselves as fascism, two of which are strictly italian nationalist movements, and most groups which outsiders refer to as fascist openly reject the term, including those such as the german national socialist workers party. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of groups across hundreds of movements and belif systems refer to themselves as communism. Generally the issue stems from the preference for people who are educated in western universities to believe that their teachers' opinions override empiricism.
>>538597605>this is a cope is that it took 6 months to come up withImagine being so terminally online that you fucking MEASURED a potential memetic response.Also, posting that>conservatives apply empathywhile also posting>that is being a philosophical zombie and not being able to deviate from the "immigrant gud" position no matter whatYou literally contradict yourself within your own post. You pretend leftists are mindless ideologues yet you can't be bothered to maintain a consistent ethos within one single post. Literally do anything else, this place is killing you.
>>538595554it exposes them
>>538595659Lmao the amount of replies to this point really demonstrates how correct this point is.
>>538595554The thing about it is that it's ironically an image used by right wing people to ignore arguments. It's the "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" image.
>>538595659i have been waiting for this "flaw" to be exposed since obama was in office.
>>538595554>It's amazing how much leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand thingsumm.. what Colin? what??
>>538595659I thought you hated AI?
may I see some of this high iq rightoid discourse?
>>538600538>asking questions you know the answer to is the same as pretending to not know what a woman is in order to gain access to children's toilet facilities
>>538600760shutup you are fat and black
>>538595659Over target. Faggots seething and pretending not to be retarded faggots. You should try pussy anon.
>>538595554They arent pretending, they are just retarded.
>>538596522You need to go back.
>>538598128The world makes a lot more sense when you look at people and say, "yea, they're not the same. It's unreasonable to treat them the same, or to expect the same things from them." It's also a lot more logically consistent with the politics you want to accomplish, like putting up a wall between us and them.Literally the same definition as the leftist sacred cow: "equity."They just want it done to whites instead so they can have more room for troon grift, brown grift, and the DC, Hollywood, NY and New England ivory tower leftist overlords to keep funding their lifestyles on the back of the working white middle class.Imagine being liberal royalty like Huma Abdein and Soros Jr. right now and having three or four lifetimes worth of wealth already from feeding reddit type peon leftists outrage porn for decades.
>>538600774There's a lot of you pretending not to understand that Ukraine is a dead man walking.
>>538595554why do jannies allow flagrant social media and reddit reposts outside of soc?these are times of mystery
>>538600954They're mostly jews thinking that
>>538600839and like all conservatives you love and worship hebrews
>>538600972Whats your theory
>>538598592>lib getting completely raped by their own retarded tacticlol so embarrassing
>>538600910>super angry post for no reason These kinds of posts are the most boring and low IQ garbage that ever gets posted on here.
>>538595554>Why does this simple quote make lefties want to cut their wristsOh fuck that would be so sweet. But even more productive and better if they stopped being faggots and developed coherent rational fact and wvidence based arguments.But that would make too much sense and doesn't pay as much as saying orange man bad and breaking things I guess.
>>538601029The only embarrassment I have is seeing you so utterly BTFO.
>>538598352>Post implying every leftist is Ephialtes of Trachis>In real life he was more of a commie leaning farmer who became an incel because he was rejected by a Spartan maidenHistory doesn't really repeat but it sure does rhyme.
>>538601230>two fagles
Miggers tongue my anus
>>538595554The jews taught them. source: mein kampf
>>538597694You can literally watch every Charlie Kirk video and watch in real time as each leftard gets up their and needs basic shit explained to them. Not a damn one has ANY clue what GOP believes, because they are uneducated. They just consume the slop they are fed, and that slop is literally just RED BAD. Leftist MSM does not ever bother to explain to their base why anyone is bad, they just go MAN BAD, RED BAD, ORANGE MAN BAD. You can see this shit with people like Peterson too - most people just know MAN BAD because lefty Jews told them man bad. Very rarely have I seen people know that Peterson is a twat because of all the fad diet shit he shills for (the only legit & real reason to dislike him). Lefty NPCs would have zero clue - they think he's some Nazi incarnation, which is not the case. The only reason he has fame is he went against Canada's compelled speech shit, and lost (his job). Peterson is basically a lefty but didn't toe the tranny line and got BTFO the group. But lefties will swear up and down he's some manosphere neo-nazi because he DARED to talk to 4chan twats and got them to clean their room.
>>538595659So many yous from maga fags who don't understand rhetoric.>maga tards"We need to build a wall to keep out the Mexicans">Typical Liberal response1. The Otay Mountains and Rio Grande exist, and you can't build a wall over a mountain range or over a river.2. Construction requires seizing the private property of Texans and tribal lands. Good luck with that in the courts.3. The massive cost would require us to (1) raise taxes or (2) go into more national debt. 2 things Republican voters hate.4. Walls do not stop individuals from making tunnels, using ladders, or just overstaying visas>Normal people responseI see, let's find a more practical way.>maga tardsYou're a beta malePoints 1 and 2 are liberal liesIsrael has a wall!The cost doesn't matter cuz Mexico will pay for itur a fagetLiberals get tired dealing with you retards, and this is why we just say:A wall eh? Good idea. But where we gunna get all those bricks from?
>>538595660>I hate woke! It's destroying America.Cool, what is woke?>woke is wen, it's like..., it's when blacks, uh. no, erm, it's when women! well no, woke is when... YOU KNOW WHAT WOKE IS! STOP TRYING TO PRETEND YOU DONT KNOW!I want you to make your case for me. If you have some shitty ideas you want to project out into the world, then the responsibility is on you to present them - fully.I do not care if your own inability to articulate your position upsets you. No, I will not do your work for you.
>>538595998This but the opposite
>>538601963>he doesn't know the rio grande doesn't even reach the gulf anymore>the chinese built walls on mountains thousands of years agoThis is what the thread is talking about. The things you say are so preposterous it becomes clear you're either actually retarded or wasting my time so I'm no longer incentivized to speak with you.
>you can't build a wall across a riverThis is on par with that pregnant trout guy.
>>538601052>go back instead of responding. Start planning and packing paki.
lefties pretend not to understand things because they think all conservative opinions are wrong so merely getting you to admit that you hold them is an "own" that automatically makes you lose the argument. like they think they are baiting you into saying "trannies aren't women" and that instantly makes you wrong because only bad doodoo heads think that.
>>538595554This is positively a schizophrenic take to not see how Conservatives are retarded too. This is just political discourse now in general.
>>538595659FUCK U TRANNY
>>538601385>typical failson basement dweller grasping at straws and deliberately mischaracterizing a scratch on old newsprint as deliberate printingTale as old as time.
>>538595554They legitimately think words are magic.Leftists can not accurately say what the policies of their opponents are while the Right can accurately state theirs.They are afraid of falling under a spell if they even know what you are talking about.
>>538595998I’m pro tranny, but leftists want to turn children into trannies solely to be fuck toys for the rich . If you can’t see that you need to face the wall
>>538598976>based white people collecting benefits same as muh illegals.>doesn't understand statistics based on population sizeDespite welfare being a ponzi scheme, white people SHOULD be given priority on on receiving the benefits THEY pay into as a collective in a country they built. Meanwhile your precious shitskins and Jews take far more than they provide.
>>538595554Here’s another oneLeftism is the whip of zionism. Say it wherever you can because it’s true.
>>538595554You're quoting a literal faggot
>>538595659I agree. The time for arguing with you faggots is over.
>>538604015>lefties pretend not to understand things because they think all conservative opinions are wrong so merely getting you to admit that you hold them is an "own" that automatically makes you lose the argumentSee this retard here:>>538597605He literally undermines the point he makes by stating that conservatives are capable of empathizing with liberals and giving the benefit of doubt or steelmanning liberal arguments while calling them philosophical zombies unable to deviate from political positions. This happens every time I try to debate conservatives, especially about explicitly falsifiable shit like history and economic policy and game theoretical analysis of what middle class and working class political end goals should be, but literally everything gets derailed by appeals to emotion or aesthetics, or stating anything they don't like is trans. You argue like children but demand to be taken seriously like adults. I simply respond in kind and patiently wait until your heroes make absolute fools of themselves like pucrel, but usually the damage is already done and you double down like retards until your political capital is so in the red you will be lucky to have your great grandchildren pay it off, but of course you are both too proud to stop and too proud tobl have this debt forgiven. Your loss, I guess.
>>538604765You're right, you'd probably will an argument every now and then. That's wonderful. I just want to see you killed.
538595659No (you) for (you).Constantly lying and pretending to not know shit in order to exhaust someone isn't Socratic irony.
>>538597710holy shit you're retardedly naive and you have no life experience.
>>538604929>I just want to see you killedThat's too bad, nothing will happen, because you literally won't do shit.One, because you are too pussy.Two, because you are too lazy.If you had any self control you would stop replying and do something with your life and stop this vicious self-hatred.Go see a therapist and lose 30 pounds, it will do you much better than this.
>>538604765>that conservatives are capable of empathizing with liberals and giving the benefit of doubt or steelmanning liberal arguments while calling them philosophical zombies unable to deviate from political positions>You argue like children but demand to be taken seriously like adults. I simply respond in kind and patiently wait until your heroes make absolute fools of themselves like pucrel, >Pucrel is twitter clout chaser and troonSounds like that anon hit the nail on the head. So about immigration, housing, and wages what kinda commie gobble goop do you have to spew?
>>538595659Fucking lmaoI don't think it's feigned ignorance. I think they just want white people dead
>>538605165Holy shit you're retardedly one-sided and have no perspective or imagination.See how it feels from the other side?
>>538595660Comeback to what? It's not an argument. Typical of dogshit rightoid scum to pretend it is.
>>538596125Good one, have a (you)
it's the same thing on both sides, there's no real differenceif blues tried to understand reds, they'd understand that you gotta have real measurable metrics influence policy rather than vibesif reds tried to understand blues, they'd understand that some changes to status quo with limited downsides would advance the society in the long runand of course both hate lower class people like immigrants and homeless, it's just one side is more open about it
>>538600538What kind of retard logic is that?
>>538607098>what kinda commie gobble goop do you have to spew?I find it funny how you think anything that could go against your preconceived notions of how the world works is commie gobble good, when much of that is political narrative driven by people standing to lose their position should genuine change visit this country.First of all, nearly every last right wing so-called activist on X/Twitter is looking to make money off his fanbase, and continue to comfortably milk his fanbase for as long as they can. They are afraid of genuine activists who actually engage in irl political change. Look at how a rift sprung up between Fuentes and Orwoll of return to the land when the latter revealed his settlement project; they are effectively retardants of genuine anction, unwittingly working for the government, because they are afraid of genuine action which would evaporate their cuckolded audience.Second of all, take a wild guess at how many of those retards take thielbux. Find those that have at least admitted it or which one strongly suspects them of having had don this. None of them talk about unions or workplace organizing for better pay or benefits. It's all muh race. What do you have to show for yourself engaging in racial politics, when you can't afford your own place to live, let alone having enough to not need to also apply for government assistance, which many "racially conscious" people love to decry while also taking benefits or are hoping for some government contract to tide their failing businesses over. You guys are useless hypocrites.
>>538604398>muh welfare is a ponzi scheme,>but white people SHOULD be given priority in being the beneficiaries of a ponzi schemeTalk about hypocrisy and special pleading.>your precious shitskins and Jews take far more than they provide.You wouldn't be afraid of other people if you were genuinely better than you are.
>>538603636You're fucking pathetic. He made a perfect point, and you seized on one tiny detail (with a hilariously false comparison considering the Great Wall of China never fucking worked in the first place, thus defeating your own argument), thought you made a point, and threw your toy down and stomped home. You people fucking disgust me.
>>538595659Except this is not socratic irony. The entire strategy exists for TV purposes where the air time is limited. Instead of going to the point you derail the conversation to discuss some basic particular of it, so you don't actually have to argue with what's being said. This makes it boring and wastes airtime.So for instance you may say that you don't like immigration because most immigrants are relatively lower IQ to the baseline populations, it's unsustainable given the global birthrates etc. etc. but what you'll be dragged into will be discussion on whether IQ is heritable or dissection of the dynamics of gender disbalance between cities and the countryside.
>>538595659I do this all the time with leftists and it makes them shit their pants every time. It doesn't work on my because I have consistent beliefs.
>>538608138Whites are literally a net contributor. Brownoids are not.
>>538608579I'm a leftist. Pick one of your stupid beliefs and debate me.
