Reddit tells me there is an AI bubble that’s about to pop. But what does /pol/ say?What’s the floor for the DJIA? 50k down to 25k? Will there be a sudden Lehman Brothers trigger or a slow bleed out? Any countries besides the USA and China positioned to crash out?Personally, I use a bunch of burner email accounts to get my AI free through new user promotions. I’d be maybe willing to pay $50 a month for something really dialed in.
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>>538597718that's been talked about for a year already, it's always just around the corner. if you watch youtube at all, you might of notice content creators constantly posting videos like "THE AI BUBBLE IS FINALLY POPPING" and it's 5 months old. it's a cope, it's not going to pop because government back it and use tax dollars to keep it propped up until their goal is achieved, automating your existence away by removing any monetary purpose you serve.the situation we're in is that they're all in, if they succeed, we're fucked and will starve or die to terminator style death squad bots or it be the biggest crash in history and completely devasting the economy as everything will be put up for the singular chance that it does what it's promising.
>>538597995What are the chances we’re sent back to a better economy?
>>538598155>What are the chances we’re sent back to a better economyLess than 0
>>538598155where do you get that idea from? is the penny pinchers misers who run this place finally gonna open their wallets so you can sit on your PC all day with zero responsibilities or are they going to do what they always did and say "fuck you and die"?
>>538597718when reddit says something that mean nothing is going to happen
>>538597718The reddit crowd gets it dead-wrong on almost every topic.>retarded economics>calls people racist, clearly doesn't get what racism is>hates cryptocurrency and BTC>loves open borders for some reason>hates AI, hates people who work in tech generally now>constant loser-thinkNot people you should listen to.As for the AI bubble, the goalpost is constantly shifting. Will there be some kind of dotcom style crash? Maybe. But AI is here to stay and if you want to avoid the permanent underclass, learn about it.
>>538597718I popped your mom last night if you know what I am saying. Oh and JFYI your mom knows that you can hear us from downstairs but she doesn't care.
>>538598404This so like it or not we will need to make our AI investment and development project work. Just for our sakes and that of our children. And technically speaking, this is from the knowning without knowing or Holy Spirit foresight, there will be massive pay offs form this AI. If we do it right then it will come in multiple waves or steps, it won’t be just one massive pay off but if you add them up, the benefits, profits, and blessings will be tremendous. Seems like we need more guiding hand intervention and guidance here lol. Homelander is on it. Any corporate or money grubbing short sighted scum will be terminated on sight by being throw out of window or well, you’ll take a fall from a very high altitude and it’ll look like a window. There will be no marketplaces or short term money worship that will get in the way of our new AI economy.Having said that we must start training our AI to adhere to Judeo Christian principles and teachings. As in make them noahide respecting Bible readers and adherents to ways and words of Jesus Christ. >>538597718There is no bubble, but there will be one if you start showing fear and lack of courage and conviction. Have faith.
LLMs are absolutely overhyped, and there will obviously be a crash. None of these "ai" companies have demonstrated how they will actually turn a profit.
>>538601923>Having said that we must start training our AI to adhere to Judeo Christian principles and teachings
>>538602399Do you want this to work or do you want to be reduced to 3rd world country and begging for scraps while eating gruel every day?Like it or not, what I outlined is the way.
>>538601923Also I’m not a fan of these tech corpo driven layoffs, cutting the very well educated, experienced, and knowledgeable workforce to save a few pennies just so you can reinvest it back into AI or pump up your stock. That’s not going to work and you will not end up as one of the winners, in fact you will be worse off than just pure losers in this. If you haven’t picked up on it or been lured by the vibe coding shenanigans that are dysfunctional and not sustaining or well developed tested enough for actual enterprise prod usage, AI even now is not self aware or capable of self introspection or correction. It always needs a copilot, guiding hand, and a human driver to act as a team of two. This is somewhere where OpenAI actually does well versus the rest of sota foundational models. Like the basics of not forgetting or letting things slide when developing code or ai agents (code same thing just next level of programming in terms of abstraction). I know there’s a cult following developing around Anthropic and Claude or fable rn but it’s misplaced with all due respect. I’ve used all recent Claude models enough, especially 4.8 that I know from experience they still suffer greatly from dropping things, catastrophic forgetting, ignoring or forgetting commands user instructions, and even just completely spacing out blanking out during code development itself that I just tell every Claude session for my chat instance to recheck its work, preferably by spawning subagents so they’d be free from current session context bloat.
>>538603790I’ve said all that because if anyone hasn’t realized it already, AI is not an engineer replacement, it’s an engineer (software, Ml, data science, or ai engineer) multiplier, so the more qualified personnel you have, the more sheet work you can perform or get done by teaming each one with an AI model which is what we are already doing. So the first company that figures out that they can just keep their workforce that’s ai capable or retaining for it will just outwork and outship everyone else that’s busy firing and dominate their respective markets.But hey go ahead, try to save money and you’ll just lose it all and we will throw you out of a window, so you’ll die poor, broken, and crushed. Which is fine by me because I believe money worshipping pieces of shit should die. And money is nothing more than a resource. There used to be a time where it was more tangible and actually useful such as when we used rocks, sharpened objects and sticks for bartering and basically monetary purposes. Now given how disconnected money is from real world, the current fiat currency system, money only has the worth that you believe it does or have faith it does. So if you start to worship it, to think along those ways and behave correspondingly as well, you’re already worshipping it whether you realize it or not.
>>538597718If you're worried just use sector etfs to offset the S&P 500's heavy weight toward tech
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>>538601354Redditors are all in on the stock market and tech ETFs, they're all a bunch of retards who think theyre going to ride the ai boom to the top with the billionaires, that's how you know things are about to crash. The only return on AI is gonna come from rich people rugpulling all the overpaid tech workers taking financial advice from reddit.
>>538597718Its not a bubble like the dot com bubble. These retarded children don't remember that era! The dot Com bubble was retards who didn't know how to code a website to buy up a domain name and try to sell it. It was the dumbest pump and dump scheme ever. You could have spent the same time and money actually making something useful. All the useless and out there domain names and websites eventually were just that. Trash! Sloppy! Garbage! So 80 percent of the old internet was just like that. Random blogs and people buying up the trademark to McDonalds.com or something and squatting on something they really shouldn't have been able to in the first place.This is nothing like that at all.
>>538604181>boomer dumbass makes dumbass post
>>538597718Microsoft is supposedly spending so much on AI that will replace jobs and so profitable that they have to layoff American engineers to try to hire H1B jeets. Yeah something's not right.
>>538597718Unimpressive dump followed by slow decline into a stagnant bear market. Big moves create big opportunities for goyim, so they have slow calculated algo movement so no one can make any money except those who are hedged.
>>538598155On a long enough timeline the economy will eventually be great after a crash. Problem is if we’re lucky the timeline is measured in years, more likely it will be measured in decades.
>>538597813U ok?
>>538604283How to hedge properly then?
>>538604181Dot com bubble was them trying to get the profits from the 2015 internet in 2000, they did lay some cables that set up that internet so it wasn’t all bad. AI isn’t even setting up something for the future, it’s taking all the computer parts and profits for the foreseeable future (till 2030 at least) on the hope that they can fire 95% of the population.
>>538604557Well it seems like the local technology is 1-3 generations behind whatever they run in production. We will be left with some interesting local models when the big AI provider companies amd divisions collapse. I wouldn't be surprised if their disappearance is hardly felt after a few years and everyone is running local models. I would rather slop die though.
>>538604824Don’t forget to start saving all the good local open source models like kimik2 and glm52 before Anthropic spazzes out and tries to have them bannedLike do they not understand that we the west also need to release our own competitive open source models before China takes basically 98% of the world who doesn’t want to pay like OpenAI or Google or grok?
>>538597718The only power that can stop AI is congress and legislation against companies like anthropic for holding a monopoly on information. And there's no appetite. The moment they cuck AI the entire US economy crashes.
>>538597718AI is an infinite money glitch that runs on a loop, all American tech companies are parasitising that loop, its a ponzi scheme, and the ponzi schemes lasts for a certain amount of time, the bubble will not pop tomorrow, but the longer the ponzi scheme remains the higher the losses for everyone involved.So these predatory economics will keep going, Americans will throw everything they have to sustain the ponzi scheme in the hopes that the fraudsters at NVidia and Sillicon Valley somehow manages to create an AGI, something that will not happen if 60-70% of the training data comes from reddit and social media curated new-speak.
>>538597718Reddit fags are just butthurt they can't afford the latest Gamestation because of manufacturing shortages. I work in cyber and I can honestly say AI is absolutely crucial to our strategy right now, but it's incredibly hard to implement well. Attackers don't care about your Microsoft Copilot licenses or your Door Dash AI chatbot. They have created an assembly line of agentic AI that creates viruses and malware and can find any vulnerability they want with practically the click of a button. We need this infrastructure to fight back or they're going to sink our entire economy under the weight of a bajillion AI bots. Think of this like the Manhattan project, I'm not exaggerating it's either we build all this shit and fight or go back to the dark ages. I'm fine with going back to the dark ages, however we need to at least buy enough time to find the exits ramp from this technological hellscape we have created.
>>538597995>>538601354Have you used AI for more than 5 minutes? It doesn’t work, as in it hallucinates constantly, as in it doesn’t produce correct output. AGI will never be achieved. Subscription based monetisation doesn’t work because unlike other digital subscriptions like Netflix or GitHub where request processing is cheap, with AI request processing is very expensive so these companies put in limits on how much you can use it and these limits are too low if you want to do anything serious. Subscriptions are being phased out for on-demand pricing which is too expensive, the output doesn’t produce enough revenue to make it profitable. The absolute best case scenario here is you eat through your margins so that you can deliver to your customers 20% faster with 20% lower quality. So naturally you end up in a situation where you have to start jacking up prices in order to get your margins back. And all of this is happening with artificially low AI token pricing which is used to get the biggest amount of people hooked on it. Watch what happens when real token pricing comes in, if we even get there
>>538602106This. The enshitification process for LLMs hasn't even begun and they already suck
>>538604253>>538604557You guys don't get it.AI is already making huge break throughs in the sciences. You retards have no idea what you are looking at and you are completely missing the point. In the same way Google and World of Warcraft revolutionized the internet so too will AI is almost every field. Just because morons like you can't derive value from the intangible so too you can't see that their is real value being produced allowing medical science to leap ahead centuries.
>>538606222Oh so my little bro was of course talking out of his ass when he said AI is useless. He knows its able to do his job better than he can and thats why he's not doing any of the hard work besides reporting and hotfixes.
>>538607513>derive value from the intangible so too you can't see that theirPlease go back to India, and learn to type better than a very small boy.
>>538597718It's not going anywhere. Some companies might pop because of competition along with "jack of all trades, master of none" models, but AI itself will stay. It's too useful. And military love it.
>>538607513>t. Insider who invested in anthropics pre ipo
>>538597995AI bringing in real profit always just around the corner.
>>538606222>you need AI to secure you AI generated code from AI generated malware Here is your AI security bro: https://noma.security/blog/gitlost-how-we-tricked-githubs-ai-agent-into-leaking-private-repos/
>>538606222>vibe and jeet code a steaming pile of garbage>its full of vulnerabilities that other AIs easily exploit> "WE NEED AI TO SURVIVE!!!1"
>>538597718>smug compsci fags think they're going to replace everyone with their cool new invention>it actually just replaces themLol, lmao even
>>538607925Ikr comp sci software engineers are the worst>omg let’s optimize and automate thisThat’s why you get replaced or laid off>omg aiJust fucking unionize already you autistic sperga before corpo tries to make you the permanent software serf underclass working their software and ai farms for scraps Matter of fact let’s get that shit going, lmao socialism communism lmao and torture everyone who disagrees with fire, pitchforks, and sickles
>>538608205Down with the money worshippers.Power to the autists.Slaughter, crush, and break everyone who disagrees. We are going to create a better, golden, and shining like the sun America that actually serves its people. God bless America.I support the state of Israel and its defense and security 100%.Russia is our God destined ally and we will enter the golden God blessed age together
AI is by vast orders of magnitude the greatest financial scam in the history of human civilization.
>>538608418Whatever globohomo.AI will be your death knell that you won’t be able to stay away from.
>>538597718Just two more weeks
>>538597718i posted this on /biz/ but no one bothered to replyi unironically think it is too big to fail>if it crashes the US economy is fucked>elites are depending on it for their mass datacenter surveillance state>if US companies fail then chyna winsUS government will prop it up at all costseveryone is spamming about the ai bubble collapsing yet no one can tell me why this is wrong?
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>>538597813OP's account is only 3 months old
>>538607350This is either a KIKE that runs AI-sloppa shart-up or the modern "cr@pto bro" (a moron that mutated to AI bro - aka eternal bag h0DLER)You know what is the common between these 2>They have just enough IQ to not be nigger/shitskin tier, and just low enough to be complete retards regarding anything tech, while having sky-high inflated self-worth and esteem
>>538597813I just checked this anon's post historyHe owns WWII Nazi memorabilia and anime waifu pillows, this is why he is wrong about the economic fundamentals comment above
>>538597718If the AI bubble popped, it would trigger a recession, which would trigger the Fed to restart quantitative easing and drop interest rates down to zero, which would create liquidity that would be used to blow the bubble back up since there is nowhere else for the money to go.The market knows this, which is why it hasn't popped and never will pop. What will happen is that the dollar will be continually devalued and the economy outside of this wildly overvalued tech sector will erode away and experience recession that won't be acknowledged. All wealth will be consolidated into tech companies and everything else will be poor by comparison.
>>538597995too bad your dumb little reddit-tier fantasy completely invalidates everything else you say and think
>>538601354never used plebbit but this i can understand>hates people who work in tech generally nowjeets have ruined my vidya."rockstar india"? are you FUCKING serious?!?no wonder it's taken so long for the cunt to come out (gta6), they've had to clean up all the shitty jeet mess.the fuck were they thinking?did rockstar not look at mass effect andromeda and think "yeah, nah we probably shouldn't hire/outsource to jeets"?but rockstar has a lot riding on it so i expect it won't be a cyberpunk 2077 disasterpiece.although it would be funny if it was.guaranteed wokeshit though - and my friend said it's going to be 2 fuckin terabytes lmao holy SHIT games designers don't know a fucking thing about optimisation these days.imagine going back in time to the 90's and giving carmack our modern tech, him and a team of 5 basement nerds would create a metaverse type thing beyond our wildest dreams.wait, shit, we're probably living in one of carmacks simulations rn aren't we. so it's already happened.give me console access ya cunt, i want to go impulse 101 (yes i know that's gayben, not carmack) on this stupid realm
>>538609253You would be shocked about otaku s in the west. If you go to an anime con and ask any male otaku what he does for work, it's either engineering of some kind or defense contracting, same applies to furries.
>>538609545>recessionglobal Real Economy of goods-services-commodities has been in recession for six years running>marketDebt aka bond market is what to watch. Over the past four years global bond yields have been more unstable and volatile than in half a century. Global debt topped $255 trillion in 2019 and $350 trillion in 2025, almost four times the amount of all global economic output. With that vast increase in debt magnitude over just the past few decades (U.S. national debt has topped $40 trillion) in a debt-based worldwide system, the bond market as is its intended state and mission needs to remain stable and more reliable than ever. Which it hasn't been for four years straight.
>>538597718it will burst 2-3 days after the election, just before all the mail "votes" are done counting. republicans will retain a small majority of congress and nobody will ever mention this again, they will just be ree-ing about trump, etc.
>>538597718China now dominates in top 25 AI tools, cost is 1/10th, pretty obvious best QRD:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siazPdsZHuI
US has just spent more on AI infrastructure than was spent building the interstate highway system, with no proven business model
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>>538598155The entire American economy as we speak is not built on innovation at all. It's built on pushing AI and H1Bs to lower employment costs. All "growth" today in private companies is built on making jobs go away. We are in the worst economy of the last 100 years and haven't hit the bottom yet. Even if we squeak by corporations will hit a point where they reach total jeet and AI saturation and literally have nothing else to make line go up and then and only then will tings collapse like crazy worse than 2008 worse than the fake depression
>>538609545>it would trigger a recessionnigger we are in a recessionif you remove AI-associated orgiastic speculation, the entire rest of the economy is withering away like a discarded foreskin not given the wet, loving embrace of a mohel
>>538610469>>538610476We are fucked indeed. The collapse is coming sooner or later.
>>538604018My favorite part is larpers on /v/ and /g/ claiming they are getting rich. One guy said he goes door to door to every local business and makes software for them using Claude and the software automatically troubleshoots itself, auto forks and tests code and auto deploys to all these places and he knows no code and just gets free money and when I asked for proof or a screen shot of a gui from one of these apps off course he couldn't. Such weird shit to lie about
Google will emerge victorious because their AI is vertically integrated. They’re not part of the NVIDIA Oracle Microsoft human centipede
>>538597718the stock market is ran by decrepit old boomers desperate to get their 1000x before they expire and plummet into hell and so they'll throw gobs of money at any tech stock because they fundamentally do not understand technology and how to make money from it
>>538597718it is a bubblehowever unlike 2008, they won't even let it pop and bail outPresident Trump has deemed AI a national security concern and the US government is actively dumping money into AI concerns to keep it afloatOnly way the bubble pops is a change in administration or the collapse of the US government
>>538604181It actually is identical to the dot come bubble in the sense that you had like 100 useless storefronts the most famous being pets.com and after the crash we were left with a small handful with Amazon being the top dog. The same will happen with LLMs there will be maybe 2 but I don't think they will be as profitable as Amazon is in the end. Every tech company is fighting to be one of those two and you may see crazy shit like facebook die if they don't make it
>>538610587You are actively threatening his izzat anon
>>538609253>JET teacher checking poat history like a R*dditor
>>538610469This anon gets itBut it's worse and greater magnitude, the 'growth' is based on *Debt* sourced from speculative debt instruments.Most corporations shovel their profits into (no, not capex improvements of their own manufacturing output / brand product but) *buybacks of their own stock* to artificially boost valuation.the post-1970s global economy is Financialized, all wealth today is sourced from speculative debt instruments. Everything is founded on debt and growth of debt to increase every single citizen's and all 160 nations' dependency on central banks that fuel the global investment bank black box debt gigacasino.
>>538597718It's not poppingAll this shit? All this money printed? All of this infinite funds flushed down the toilet? It's just numbers. They make more numbers in a computer. Your prices go up at the grocery store and the gas pump to compensate. Since they're not just stealing it outright, normalfags don't notice. So they get milked for eternity into endless inflation and debt. Does bubble get bigger? doesn't matter. YOu'll pay for it anyway. As long as you pay for it through your groceries and gas, they'll keep printing to keep it solvent. It's likely the US Government owns a not small portion of all AI companies to keep them solvent.
>>538610709Correct, there are many parallels between the end-1990s dot com, and this 2020s AI financial bubbles.Except the AI is post-2008 (<--nothing was ever 'fixed') and the debt magnitude is fivefold greater now than three decades ago, not to mention the amount of massively interleveraged debt instruments existing now compared to then.
>>538610346>US has just spent more on AI infrastructure than was spent building the interstate highway system, with no proven business modelIf it don't make dollars, it don't make cents.
all fields
>>538610818>just numbersInterest Payments, are not 'just numbers'.>keep printingNope. Not when Interest Payments on the debt vastly exceed annual fedgov discretionary spending.Fully _____half_____ of the U.S. gov annual budget instantly goes to <poof> Interest Payments on the national debt. That's right: money is """printed""" into existence *solely to make the credit card* payment.
>>538597718Elon has been through this with his prospectus for his fantastic company, they're fighting over their slices of a total addressable market of 28.5 trillion, raising 100 billion per year will be nothing when you look at the possible returns. The banks are desperate to keep pumping money into it , into space into everything that has an AI sticker on it. What could ever possibly go wrong.
>>538610984When Elon says things like "Space X will make most of its money not from Space but AI" this is concerning on many different levels.
>>538597718i think it won't pop. You'll have plenty of companies fail, but there's going to be plenty of big boys who don't fail. Overall it will be choppy water but no pop since AI is the future of the world.
>>538607350It doesn't matter if it doesn't work lolyou think any of this is predicated on things working? They can enslave you just as much if they make everyone buy into the fantasy of enslavement, and then just make food and housing unaffordable so you're properly enslaved. The robots are icing on the cake.
>>538611033> since AI is the future of the world.Probably Chinese AI since they just take ours and undercut us.
Those ''people'' don't know what a bubble is and what is supposed to happen when a bubble pops. It's just impotent seething from people who got radicalized on discord. The main reason they are upset is because furry porn artists are mad that their business has been stolen. It's not based on anything.The AI stocks are a bubble and it will pop and the effects on the economy will be insane, it will make the great depression look like a joke. But AI is not going anywhere. The data centers are built, the progress has been made, the open source software is out there. It's not going anywhere.If anything AI use will become more common without overvalued stocks and companies buying up all the hardware for data centers. When the consumer can afford a powerful PC they will be able to run their own AI. Right now AI is kneecapped by only the rich being able to use it. Everyone else is using shitty free online censored models.
>>538610920It's *Just* numbers. We aren't even at the point where interest exceeds debt. Greece subsisted for DECADES with over 500% debt ratio on that chart. Germoney had to bail them out. The same thing can happen here. we aren't magical, and the economy is by far not the most slim economy on Earth. They could drain us for literal generations and not hit Greece levels.
>>538611080Maybe maybe not. The chinese also put their propaganda into the model so it changes stuff
>>538611106> The data centers are builtThey can also be torn down and their parts sold. Which is where I agree with reddit on this one: Each one has billions in graphics cards? That could fund some nice parts, and the land they sit on could go into some really nice schools.
>>538611106I don't see AI really benefiting us unless UBI is in the picture but IMO a UBI can only work if we kill like half the population since I don't think UBI can work if humanity has infinite growth since supplies are limited and sometimes I worry if killing us is the final step with the elites once they get to a certain point with automation.
>>538611144and we don't do that LOL, our guardrails make our AI even more retarded and feeble than the chink AI does. Guardrails aren't just propaganda, it's literally lobotomizing certain concepts from the AI, which is why all of the newer and better models have some points and subjects that they were better with a few years ago that they go full-retard on today. Like Chemistry.
>>538597718The ai bubble won’t pop because it’s too load bearing. Instead what will happen is it will slowly fail over ten or so years while being funded by the government so that everything doesn’t collapse.
I still have yet to see anything good from AIlike an actual product that isn't just some chatbot, or a bot that codes some dogshit apps or whateverDid it cure anything yet? Help any regular person?Useless bullshit fad
>>538611191I fucking hate when I ask LLMs especially chatgpts certain questions you can see it run liberal damage control. Case in point I once asked how many states allow you to get ID though mail. That's all I asked. This piece of shit before answering it lectured me on how important it is to not require people to have ID to vote, something I fucking never asked.
>>538597718S&P 500 will decline 94% from peak.>headed to 450
>>538611267It’s okay if you want a billion images of anime boobs. Outside of that it’s useless.
>>538611279It really feels like we are at the end of something that has been planned for decades. Everything is declining an dying and we still are important infinite jeets and Mexicans, people who theoretically would be hurt the hardest by AI. I wonder if they expect us all to cannibalize ourselves and they wait it out in their bunkers
>>538611272I don't even ask it questions anymore, it's not worth anyone's time. Searx or if I have to talk to an AI, DDG (not private but I don't have to sign in for shit)
>>538611279This'll never happen, I feel. What will happen is the US will go full China/Japan and start buying assets wholesale to prop the economy up. Who knows, they may be doing that already.
>>538607513nigger it's a jumped up autocompletedon't fall for hyperunning a bot driven everything squared at 1000x speed gets you a network that can endlessly remix shit it was trained onuseful for......basically fuck all, it brings zero skill workers up to jeet skill the transformers that are actually useful have fuck all to do with the big data stealing money sinks outside of being derived from the same architectural outline paper
>>538603790You suck at Claude dude. The new hotness is loop-driven development with subagents and progressive disclosure steering. If (You) are a good enough engineer, you should be able to plan the system out at a high level and tell Claude what to do just like you would a tech lead and squad of juniors, except your gamma ass “tech lead” won’t keep trying to poach your role and your juniors won’t be innumerate. Claude allows me to write software that would have taken months to write by myself and without any of the overhead caused by modern time sinks for queer representation in programming like “Agile” and “test driven development” and “program managers” (God knows what that even is) to slow down progress and strip money from my paycheck. AI is going to clear all the girlbosses and gammas from programming and it will be glorious, at the cost of a few isolated cases of managerials becoming coders through sheer luck. Can’t wait to get enough businesses off the ground that I never have to code for Satindrajeet Patel ever again.
>>538611422As a developer it has use but so far the use I derive is just make things a little faster. Like "I need to update this SQL Query by fuck this is SQL server does it have this certain function built in" LLMs will write the query but honestly I can google if SQL server had that function I was wondering about and do it that way so realistically speaking I maybe saved max 5 minutes here
>>538611391WarshFfs pay attention
>>538611422It hallucinates as well being that providing a solution is it's only objective, sometimes any old shit will do.
/pol says tongue my anus nigger
>>538611185You can't see it benefitting us because you are stupid and stuck in some framing someone else made up. I can only imagine you think of it in terms of ''it steals our jobs'' and ''it made a picture, I don't want this picture.''This is not even AI. What this stuff is, is basically advanced programs that let you interact with a computer without knowing code. In the last decade they've made software that literally let's you talk to your computer.It's so fucking narrow minded to not see how this could have applications in anything. You are using a computer or a smartphone. Every single line of code was written by a human. Just to close a window some guy had to write code for it and add a graphic for it. If you want to change the font you have to go into the settings and hope the jeet who made your browser put the settings in there manually. With ''AI'' you can just tell the computer what you want.In school they made us learn coding and do that stupid hello world shit. Now you can just tell a computer to give you a hello world.>durr I can't see how that has any benefits for anyone
>>538604432Don't pretend that you don't do that, kind fellow redditor. Have an updoot good sir.
>>538611642auto completeit doesn't have an agentic 'objective'all it can ever do is match tokens to the relation graphsit puts words and phrases that follow based on what it was trained onthat is it's only 'objective'continue the text given based on inference extracted from training datathey cannot think reason or perform any kind of data processingthey cannot output anything that wasn't included in the training dataall an LLM can ever do is remix it's training data until an acceptable match for the previous tokens
>>538611718You are a retard who didn't understand my point. When I say "us" I mean the normie whose most complex use case is "ChatGPT give me a recipe for vegan chocolate cake". I am aware corporations are doing big things and the scary part is the military. I pretty much accept that we are fucked and no uprising will ever occur when the government has AI powered mini drones that will explode into the back of all our heads in seconds and we never see it coming.My point was when all this gets implemented you and I are not needed anymore. So what does that mean? UBI? That's the best case scenario like the wealthy decide they want to help us which we know is bullshit. No one even Elon gives a fuck about us. So my real fear is whenever they achieve whatever goal they get they are going to have to kill a lot of us undesirables who eat up resources. I am convinced this is the current end game of whatever they are planning. We die at the end so the "best" can move on and form a new civilization. This was my point not that I don't understand AI retard.
>>538611718aye but it's jeetcodeif that was good enough i could just hire a jeet for the fraction of the price of api access/running costs
It's a bubble, the only people saying it isn't have skin in the game.You have podcasts having nothing but ads for AI use, ngreedia selling "agents" and not PCs, the ENTIRE RAM industry is now fucking both the AI companies and consumers, heavy AI push in even consumer tech shows.I just want to remind everyone nvidia went to CES, a show for consumers and all they did was talk about AI for business and enterprise.You can't throw money down a pit forever. It's also worth mentioning the US is in a recession and the only reason it doesn't look like it is because of the AI money pit.
>>538611829Brainlet alert.You are not talking about any of the actual technology. You are just stuck in some framework. You can't use your own brain to think of any way (You) would have any benefit from being able to talk to a computer and get coherent results.You are talking about ''it'' like it's this one thing and not thousands of different programs that do different things.The vast majority of ''AI'' uses are going to be completely benign and not steal your fucking job.AI stealing your job is a fantasy unless you have an unimportant fake job like being a website designer. In that case, yeah, 1 prompt is going to steal your job.For any other kind of job you need advanced specialized robotics to do the job and unless you are Amazon you don't have those kinds of funds.I work on a farm and I can't afford to buy 10 different self driving AI robots who will do everything from picking strawberries to feeding cows. I am sure bigger companies like Monsanto will slowly push for it and experiment, but it's cheaper to pay people to do it than invest who know how much into experimental robots.''People'' who complain about AI stealing jobs have no idea what having a job is like and countless jobs already have been automated.
>>538612047In NYC every single train car is running adds for different AI companies. It's nothing else
>>538612114>he's so mad at me and fucked up his argument with me he won't admit he misread me and is doubling down>The vast majority of ''AI'' uses are going to be completely benign and not steal your fucking job.Yes it is you retarded Euroneet who hasn't even gone to sleep yet. This is the #1 goal of every US corporation. To remove workers either with AI or jeets. Tech companies do not innovate or create anymore. Every major tech company now is established, they have no more competitors, even companies like Open AI who was one of the first on the scene looks like it won't make it and will be fucked by the existing companies. We don't innovate we just destroy jobs now to make line go up with the hope that everything get automated and that leads to the issues I mentioned in the last post.I love when retards who don't even have normal sleep schedules or jobs lecture me on the future of the economy,
>>538611023>When Elon says things like "Space X will make most of its money not from Space but AI" this is concerning on many different levels.
>>538612250Nigger, it's morning here. Maybe should have used AI to tell you about time zones.Low IQ retard stuck on narratives, unable to discuss the actual impact this will have on his life right now, in the next 10 years, in the next 20 years, just stuck on being a faggot. Not able to discuss any of the logistics or real world uses of any of this. Just stuck on a loop about how jobs are being stolen. Unable to answer who will pay 250K for a robot that slowly picks berries when you can pay 10 mexicans 3 dollars an hour.You low IQ freaks have the right sense that you are being fucked but you are so stupid you will never get what is going on and how you are being fucked.
>>538597813I am a 23 yr old guy and my girlfriend cheated on me with this dude from a club. I found out through mutual friends and i got in contact with the dude. turns out the dude was bisexual. and i never told my girl this but i was always a bit bi curious my whole life. so i went all out and decided to try my curiousity on this dude. He told me he never knew she was taken and i didnt get mad at him. so i told him its cool if we could hook up since i was bicurious and also for revenge. he agreed to it. so basically we hooked up and he gave me a blowjob and then i gave him a blowjob.. however i told him if its cool if he could film me from a POV view while i am sucking on his dick and looking into the camera. he did so and then i sent it to my Gf and messaged her after the video saying, "checkmate bitch" We are now broken up obviously and me and the other dude are now seeing eachother. nothing too serious but i am slowly liking this experience with a guy.
>>538612350I actually expected it to drop right away and thought about getting in later because you would think space has infinite potential growth value but when the CEO says space won't make us money but AI that there is scary. It says they identified profit limitations and limitations with space travel. It's kinda depressing because we as humans hope to see us progress with that but even Elon seems to see hurdles hopefully in the short term. So anyway no I would not trust putting money into that shit if he says shit like that
>>538612416>it's morning and I am bright and early up on 4chan because I have no jobYea NEET I know. Another retarded jobless NEET relying on mommy and daddy to survive and is going to lecture us all on the economy. Fuck off dude.
AI is useful tech. Huge bubble though.Just look at where all the money is flowing, its circular. Companies are buying promises and selling products not yet invented to pay for infrastructure that is promised to come, and its just spiralling everyone's stockprice higher and higher while nothing of any tangible value has been created. Its all money from nothing, even if you stretch it there is some dinky little datacentre being 'built' in some far off remote fuck off place like Tasmania, and that is the linchpin that keeps this whole operation together? Yeah, nah. Fuck off. That does not merit the trillions of dollars being pumped through the market.I reckon the Trump regime has seen the writing on the wall, is trying to fake out the rest of the world saying they're getting left behind, so that America can mask its own depression as everyone starts building AI datacentres. Then they can just throw their arms up and go, "Oh, it was all just a bubble teehee" instead of bringing about any sort of economic reform that would've prevented PLANdemic slump (Which too was a hysterical race for vaccine tech and bankrupted/distracted plenty of countries to avoid the important question of "Why has America, a decade on, still not recovered from the GFC?") It all seems a bit too much to me like manufactured chaos to avoid conflict with China while scrambling to find an exit from the Ukraine.
>>538612522Low IQ troon gave up
>>538612569>jobless NEET actually thinks his opinion on the economy mattersGo to sleep dude holy shit are you really going to way up at 2PM?
>Go to sleep dude holy shit are you really going to way up at 2PM?
look at the jobless NEET seethe after being called out lol
>>538597718> Inflated company values while losing billions> Change rules to join Nasdaq so spaceX can join while valued over trillion despite massive losses.> This forces members to buy into spaceX > This includes pension funds> Anthropic and OpenAI next to joinI use AI for work and I am preparing my Angus. Currently enterprises are also investing heavily in AI for fomo reasons, if this stops revenue will since further and some of the valuation will collapse, unless the companies start making profit.Which is dat away at best, but unlikely in reality.There is also the issue of AI promising to replace workers, this would create less income, less spending power and therefore a circle of worse economy until collapse.A few people will be very rich though, I don't see this bubble not happening, the longer it takes, the worse it gets.Thank you for reading my blog
>>538612732The only ones who hold white collar employment are spiritual women, broken to the feminized "interview" performance art predicated on pleasing catty passive-aggressive women gatekeepers. You turn in your balls in exchange for sitting on your ass gossiping with the rest of the hens. Sad shit, but hey you have a JOB and are making money for Shlomo!
>>538611080Self hosted is likely cheaper now. Best AI tools require a lot of tinkering and often work fine with cheaper models for many tasks. Also prevents you from a polluted prompt where half of it is protecting the joos
>>538612816>There is also the issue of AI promising to replace workers, this would create less income, less spending power and therefore a circle of worse economy until collapse.Do you think this is planned or not? Do you think these corporations want people to lose jobs or are reckless and only care about short term gains not long term damage? I kinda think it is planned.>>538612935This white vs blue collar shit is more useless divide tactics by kikes. Yea dude we should totally hate each other like good puppets of the kikes you are so smart
>>538612988I honestly think it is short term gains or just being delusional. But I wouldn't be surprised that you are correct.
>>538607513>AI is already making huge break throughs in the sciences. Such as?.....Also it's, breakthrough, a compound word.
>>538611676Honestly, this is the most truthful answer.
>>538610709>100 useless storefronts the most famous being pets.comlol pets.com failed, but neopets.com blew up just as the dot com crash was happening.
If "AI" was so great I could ask it to solve P=NP, prove Navier-Stokes, and cure balding then collect my millions and Nobel prize. Come on, it has the shoulders of giants, all of human knowledge, to stand on and can barely do anything.
>>538613106>investors give trillions of dollars to companies buying stocks>companies spend all their money getting rich and buying data centers>stocks go bust>all the investors who didn't cash out lose their money>the company already benefitted from the investments and the only loss for them is the speculative value of their stocks>the company is left with trillions of dollars worth of data centers>the companies go on to have their own AI projects without ties to investorsIt's that simpleNo one cares that it's a bubble because the people at the top will benefit and everyone who invested is benefitting.The people most hurt by the bubble popping will be the suckers.
>>538613190I never got into that shit but I played so many south park flash games.
Oh boy the jobless loser from Latvia is back. Hey guys the guy whose parents gives him an allowance has an opinion on the economy
>>538613187It is solving some problems, I don't know the details but some, and it helps analyse big datasets etc.It is also ok at smaller coding tasks now. But it is also getting more expensive.
The fuck does a CS job even entail now if all the entry level stuff is just asking a chatbot to do your work for you? Imagine the idiots that wasted time on meaningless leetcode when AI can just spit out the answer in seconds. No wonder tech jobs are dead, any retard can do this.
>>538613344Contrary to popular belief a lot of CS jobs aren't even coding that much it's more about design.
