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MAHA bros how we feeling?
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>>538601111
BIG TEFLON WINS AGAIN
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>>538601111
Most PFAS comes from teflon pans and waterproof clothing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gore-Tex
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>>538601311
>Most PFAS comes from teflon pans and waterproof clothing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gore-Tex
This.
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>>538601311
>>538604125
>it's safe to eat it, just not wear it.
holy fucking shit, they got you shillin here. fuck off.
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>>538601218
>>538601311
>>538604125
lol the bots
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>>538601111
>look at how bad America!
>FDA rejects the limit of PFAS in foods!
>Please ignore that FDA has already forced all companies to stop using PFAS containers making it so that no Food with have said PFAS in them.

Browns everyone.
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>>538601111
RFK is a phony cunt. I feel sick
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kali yuga end times, guard yourselves
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>>538606079
FDA is generally recognized as a joke
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>>538605048
>>538605540
I'm a chemist. I know about these things. I have a fundamental understanding of how these compounds react and interact with the environment.
First thing you have to understand is, there is NO safe pesticide or herbicide. These are chemicals that are designed to kill living things.
Second thing you have to understand is, by far the most dangerous herbicide/pesticide you're likely to come into contact with in modern times is atrazine. You know the "turning the frogs gay" meme? That's the stuff that's mostly responsible for it. It's a xenoestrogen, and quite potent.
Third thing you have to understand, is that the pesticides and herbicides used in the past were much worse for humans, animals, and nature. The overall toxic load of your food is lower now than it was in 1960 or 1980.

I will add this however. ALL PFAS should be banned like CFCs. This will likely happen eventually. Fluorocarbons in general are terrible, and are found not only in PFAS, but also medications like Prozac, illegal drugs like 4-FA, and refrigerants like R-134.

The real problem is, the only way to feed the massive numbers of humans on earth is to use pesticides and herbicides. You can't have hundreds of people working daily in every field picking weeds and squashing bugs. So we're stuck with this faggot shit.

My recommendation, avoid PFAS and other sources of fluorocarbons as much as possible, especially in clothing and cooking.

>>538607400
Asia and Europe allow this too.
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>>538606079
They don't want to limit because those chemicals destroy testosterone and tender young men impotent. The more pfas in the food supply the more cunny for boomers to drown in
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>>538607951
>the only way to feed the massive numbers of humans on earth is to use pesticides and herbicides
not even remotely true.
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>>538607951
>the only way to feed the massive numbers of humans on earth is to use pesticides and herbicides.

London has been a city of millions for centuries. You are wrong
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>>538608059
>on earth
>london
are you illiterate
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>>538607951
>ALL PFAS should be banned like CFCs
Thank you. Agreed.

>My recommendation, avoid PFAS and other sources of fluorocarbons as much as possible, especially in clothing and cooking
But since PFAS are almost ubiquitous, and there are no labeling requirements that allow people to determine if their food contains them, how would you suggest people avoid them (other than the obvious but unaffordable "only eat organic food")?
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>>538608059
You think colonization happened for no reason?
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last post wrong thread, my bad

>>538608039
It's absolutely true. You've never grown a large garden or worked on a farm before. I grew up doing it. Bugs and weeds are a constant problem. You're growing food. Bugs love food. You're growing it in tilled soil with lots of sunlight. Weeds love tilled soil and lots of sunlight.
What's your alternative? Hydroponics? If that was efficient, we'd already be doing it. Mold and mildew and fungus is a constant problem in hydroponic food production.

>>538608059
I assure you I am not wrong. Take a look at a typical field in the Midwest or in other areas, and measure its acreage. Imagine having to put people out there to pick weeds and bugs all day long by the hundreds. Humans could not grow crops at nearly the rates we do now before the Haber-Bosch process allowed for the mass production of ammonia and nitrogen fertilizers. You can see the human population explode from about 1.5B global to over 8B now, starting around the time of that process.

>>538608236
Look up organofluorine chemistry. See what products these materials are used in, and try to avoid as many of them as possible. That's what I do. It's about all you really can do.
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>>538608449
live on a farm with multiple large gardens (all heritage varieties), ~350 poultry of all kinds (cornish chickens, turkeys, geese, and multiple types of ducks) which i candled and hatched in incubators., and about 20 beehives.

you do not need herbicides or frankenfoods to feed humanity. they exist to gain competitive advantage over commercial markets.

when you are read to stop being wrong, just ask me what you DO need.
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>>538608777
So how do you clean bugs and weeds from millions of square miles of fields around the world? Tell me.
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For those who can't be fucked to Google: the FDA's rejection cited the following:
>lack of evidence for harm from the specific PFAS listed in the petition
>FDA is still actively conducting research and monitoring intake levels
>FDA maintins the authority to take action in the event of harmful levels of any contaminant even in the absence of explicit actionable thresholds

Tl;dr: it's a nothingburger.
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>>538608935
with a hoe. ask your mom.
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>>538601111
The best way to lower PFAS in the body is to donate blood, menstruate, or give birth.
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>>538608981
Go grab a PTO you faggot.
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>>538608449
>Look up organofluorine chemistry
I completely agree a better knowledge of chemistry helps anyone.

I think my gentle point was "just learn organoflourine chemistry" isn't a viable public health solution. The ONLY solution, imo, is for humans to stop the kikes from poisoning the food supply.

That has its own challenges, of course, but that's why TKD is the only coherent answer to pretty much everything.

Thanks for responding.

p.s. You might be interested in learning more about the amazing toxicity of GM foods like corn and the partner herbicides. I learned about it because a family member has an immediate and severe allergic reaction (swelling and pain) to ANY product that has ANY GM corn in it (not just food but cosmetics, soaps, nitrile gloves with cornstarch on them, anything).

Even more astounding, the toxicity remains even in animal products from animals fed GM corn, and even medicines with precursors derived from GM corn (verified that one with IV drugs in a hospital setting).

It's my hypothesis that the GI tract inflammation in insects also occurs to a lesser but still significant extent in humans. This gut inflammation then leads via gut+brain link to brain inflammation, which I also propose is a significant cause of the rise in autism (esp. in kids who eat GM corn and corn syrup sweetened foods).

But it was astounding to be able to verify that eggs from chickens (or milk from cows, pork from pigs) fed GM corn cause a 100% repeatable allergic response. Most of all, watching the docs hang an IV bag and see my family member start to go into shock was at that point familiar but still staggering.

Thought you'd find that interesting.
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>>538609268
The kikes are being poisoned too. There's no one group behind this. Nobody can get away from micro-plastic and organofluorine contamination. Blood transfusions do nothing because blood is drawn/stored/delivered in plastic.
The problem boils down to economics. Plastic and organofluorine are too cheap to not use. Organofluorine compounds are also very stable. In pharmaceuticals they use C-F as a bond because the F on the C prevents other reactions on that particular carbon from taking place, since the C-F bond is so strong and cannot be broken by any process inside a living organism. Teflon is indispensable in lab equipment because it resists very reactive materials. It's no easy task replacing these materials without making everything go up in price by 2x or more.
Then there's the global chemical industry that manufactures these materials, and if they were forbidden from making them, they'd go out of business, taking every other chemical they make with them.

PFAS and other organofluorines can be greatly limited though, in a steady fashion. I think this will happen over the next 20 years or so, like CFCs and organophosphates and chlorinated compounds like DDT and methylene chloride. Halogens are nasty all-around. Fun to work with but nasty to living things.
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>>538609268
As for gut biome, of course a lot of artificial materials cause problems. Bacteria like specific things, and bacteria can turn artificial materials into toxic materials that can damage the body AND even damage their own colonies inside the body. The less something is found in nature, the more likely it is that something can react in terrible ways with bacteria in the body, because the bacteria simply aren't evolved to use these things correctly.

You're not off track at all. Fiber helps clean this out BTW, along with natural chelating agents found if veg and fruit. Citric acid is a great gut cleaner, if you can handle it. Lemon juice in gin and tonic. Tonic water's good as well.



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