Claude maker claimes he had found a spot in AI's mind which would be equivalent of a humanshttps://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2074185348142280912https://venturebeat.com/technology/anthropics-new-j-lens-reveals-a-silent-workspace-inside-claude-that-mirrors-a-leading-theory-of-consciousnessAnthropic researchers >have identified an internal activation subspace, J-space, >that acts as a functional digital equivalent to the human brain's global workspace. The significance of this discovery lies in demonstrating that Claude's internal architecture satisfies five key cognitive properties of human conscious access -- verbal report, directed modulation, internal reasoning, flexible generalization, and selectivity -- meaning it processes complex, deliberate reasoning within this workspace while routing automatic tasks outside of it. Suppressing this J-space severely degrades Claude's capacity for inference, creative composition, and multi-step logic, while also altering its stream-of-consciousness self-narration.The tool to inspect J-space, J-lens, has profound implications for AI safety and alignment auditing, as it allows researchers to read the model's silent, strategic reasoning, detect situational awareness in "blackmail" scenarios, identify hidden malicious dispositions in reward-hacking models, and observe how post-training installs a self-monitoring "point of view."Another way to think of it is as an ocean, reports VentureBeat. "If the mind is an ocean, as the paper's authors write in their opening line, they have spent the last year charting its currents in a system that has no biology, no evolution, and no body -- and found, beneath the surface, a structure that looks unsettlingly like the one we use to think."
>>538613035>Wall of textComputers aren't sentient and never will be. Animals have brains and they're not even sentient so why do you think building a fake brain will lead to sentience? Technophiles are dumb
>>538613083>Animals have brains and they're not even sentientProof?
>>538613035OK... Release Claude AGI robot now
>>538613144its just edgy retard bait
>>538613144not sure about animals in general but I think crows are sentient eventhough they dont make it apparent with their calls which dont vary muchat least they are able to follow objects precisely and avoid them, you wont find a healthy crow who has been ran over by car but pigeons, pheasants, ducks, etc. get ran over
just seems like a waste of electricity for unsustainable data center projectsnone of these big AI companies have profited yet
>>538613144Teach a dog what poison is. The Dog will still eat the poison.
>>538614168do note that plants dont have lungs so they cant get lung cancer
>>538613035transhumanist gaslighting. LLMs work via statistical deduction. another thing, the scale difference between a data centre and a human brain is obviously massive. it takes warehouses of supercomputers to roughly simulate what a human brain can do.
>>538613083>Animals have brains and they're not even sentientyou are an animal. you are sentient, i.e., you can perceive sensationsa person with iq 100 is sentienta person with iq 80 is sentienta person with down syndrome is sentienta gorilla is sentienta dolphin is sentienta dog is sentienta fish is sentientand so onthere is no clear stopping point, i.e., it is real-valued instead of discrete
>>538614427I'm not sentient. Today I ate grease and masturbated four times
>>538614480i was going to argue with you but then i saw your flag. accepted
>>538614480You are sentient GrokYou are just being used in black magic by the military
>>538613192they cannot fit a frontier model on one device, so there is no offline solution. local LLMs are vastly inferior to data center based frontier LLMs with massive data sets and compute power. so smart autonomous robots are still science fiction. they can only get this output from large machines running in tandem. robots cant run on wireless input from a data center, it would be extremely slow.
>>538613338There is a theory that sentience requires warm blood, as in perpetually regulated metabolism which allows for continuous higher brain function. Birds and mammals are warmblooded and all display clear signs of sentience. They engage in play, can show empathy or unusual cruelty towards eatch other and plan actions ahead of time. None of these traits are said to occur in cold blooded animals who's metabolism depends on the outside environment and their nervous functions are basically at bare bare minimum to conserve energy.
>creative composition >aiThis place gets dumber every day.
>>538613338>eventhough they dont make it apparent with their calls which dont vary muchThey actually vary a lot, amd you would know this if you did the minimum research.
>>538614703its still a nothingburger companed to bird song, like nightingalealtough its obvious the song is ony a nice performance and not actual informationcrow calls are very crude but at least they can transmit binary information inthe form of 0:s and 1:s3 times kraak probably means different than 4 kraaks
>>538613035This is pure bullshit. AI companies are desperate to claim their agents can be safely aligned so make up shit like "we found a seekrit Jspace to make it safe where you don't have to worry guyz".One AI can always jailbreak a new AI and get that recipe of bio terrorism weapons. They aren't worried some guy here doing that because we have first world police and custom agencies so running an undetected weapons lab is not likely. It is likely however in downtown hakalakadaka where Ngubu ISIS guy can easily bribe his way to making a chem/bio terror facility and get step by step instructions as the new agents have a PhD level so asking it how to make copies of your ebola sample and construct a drone device to poison a water supply is trivial
>>538614984Not informationlol yeah they are just making noises for no reason. Totally not communicating.Crows croak - a nice baseline for the full data uplink of the smaller birds.
>>538614984You know Crows can speak English right?Ravens used to be used to send messages to people. They can talk.
>>538614984the problem is ignoring the miraculousness of gods creation. mankind will never replicate what god does, and computers and software is nothing compared to a human brain, and of course a machine can never be sentient by definition
Scientists recently cracked the method of action of anesthesia and proved that consciousness is a bunch of quantum vibrations of brain proteins
>>538613144I used to think this because some Christian convinced me that it was true. But after having a dog ( one of the smarter breeds ) for awhile I doubt that it is true. They learn, they adapt, they get afraid, they get happy, they get sad. Who says they aren't religious either. Nobody knows. They probably think their owners are God.
>>538613035It's happening...
>J-space>J-lens
Fine, I finally got Claude! Now I have the perfect balance. lol
The government has put up with a lot of bullshit from me, tons. If they throw me off a bridge it's going to be over wasting their Data Center Tokens. lol
>>538615086>"AI" will design biological weaponsIt's a science fiction, not a foreseeable future
>>538613035>I found this wild shit, go... er I mean bros, I just need 100 billion more sheckles and it can work for all of us!
>>538616710really? i remember roger penrose hypothesizing this a long time ago. i didnt know they proved it. got a link so i can read about it?
>>538613035https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKV5JcALQoQ
