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Previous: >>538605010


Day: 130 of the Lebanon War ©
Day: 132 of the "4-day Special Military Operation to decapitate Iran"®

▶RECENT
>South Iran attacked by criminal globohomo muttmerican empire
>USN 5th fleet base on fire
>Reports of Iranian attacks on Qatar, Kuwait, and Bahrain
>Reports of Iranian bridge near Capsian Sea hit
>Both Iran and USA have declared the MoU to be "over"
>Iranian media: Killing of 8 soldiers from the Iranian army in American attacks
>Tгump: I'll probably hit them hard again tonight. I'm giving them a warning.
>IRGC says it carried out an ‘initial response’ targeting bases in Bahrain and Kuwait.
>Renewed strikes in southern Iran in the morning hours.
>IRGC Navy personnel have received preliminary instructions to prevent all traffic through the Strait of Hormuz until further notice.
>The U.S. carried out airstrikes against Sirik and several places southern Iran.

▶WARNING:
>Do not trust any "happenings" or Tгump posts without link/proof
>Uкraine / Яussia discussions belong in uнg or cнug
>Do not engage with off-topic Hasbara blogposters

▶History of the 2026 War:
>The 14-day Ceasefire™ with Iran was "extended indefinitely" unilaterally by the USA, and lasted 72 days.
>The 10-day Ceasefire™ with Lebanon was later extended and lasted 67 days. Israeli attacks continued despite ceasefire.
>The "second phase of the war" Operation Project Freedom©, lasted 1 day. Before it was "paused" by the USA, for 47 days.

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>>538613093
looks like Hormuzzy's been open (at night, at least) for quite some time:
https://archive.is/stuhQ
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Someone bake a new one. This kike tranny faggot is filtered by most anons probably.
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This thread proves that Jews are winning.
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>>538613167
>Ship does crazy blockade run
It's greek owned isn't it?
>Angola B
Yep
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>>538613169
we probably dont want the filterfags here
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here's a non-shitskin /pig/
>>538613259
>>538613259
>>538613259
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ISRAEL STANDS WITH IRAN AGINST MUTTMERICAN AGRESSION
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>>538613218
It's being orchestrated by a South Korean shipping magnate.
>>538613221
We don't want namefags or tripfags either.
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>>538613277
>muttmerica flag
>non shitskin
doubt
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>>538613093
What?
No

Tranny thread?
8200 is really reaching.
>im a niggerblack jewess (little less hair on lip than my “husband”/uncle) and I love desert-nigger-dick pic related
LMFAO this tranny
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>US & Israel are the only ones making /pig/ threads anymore.
Iran has truly lost hasn't it?
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>>538613386
What is a "technion"?
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>>538613277
And it's dead, kek
Iran loses again.
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>>538613471
uh oh, jeetjanny

looks like I'll be fucking with some browns tonight
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>>538613277
It's all so tiresome.
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>>538613471
they will kneel and post in the zionist bake and they will like it
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>>538613093
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>>538613574
>>538613574
>>538613574

Jeeties? C'mon, you know you want it
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>>538613606
ahahahaha!

this shitskin's really losing it!
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>>538613585
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>>538613093
I denounce the staff. This thread will swarm with shills until page 10.
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>>538613653
how could you do this anon
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>>538613167
Where are all the
>Hormuzzy status?
shills now?
Coping and seething, I assume?
And the targets CENTCOM is currently hitting, like radar installations, will only make this Hormuzzy blockade-running even easier.
Soon the US will be able to selectively blockade Iranian shipping exclusively, while securing safe passage for non-Iranian vessels.
Itrannies' only real leverage is evaporating.
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>>538613598
The Zip format was invented by a plagiaristic alcoholic Jew named Phil Katz:
>Before his death, Ozaukee County Sheriff's Department had several outstanding warrants against Katz, including jumping bail and the charges of operating an automobile while intoxicated and operating after revocation.[11]
>On April 14, 2000, at the age of 37, Katz was found dead in a hotel room with an empty bottle of peppermint schnapps in his hand. A coroner's report stated his death was a result of acute pancreatic bleeding caused by chronic alcoholism
But the *algorithm* Phil Katz adopted (Lempel-Ziv) was developed there.
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>>538613735
Why is the SPR still draining if true? Why did you need to bomb Iran again if true?
NACHO
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>>538613757
and dead
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...
Very Muslim of you.
>Attacks Israel
>Gets owned
>Complains the jews cheat
>Seethes in UN about genocide
>Attacks Israel
>...
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>>538613093
mandatory posting in upper-abusing yenta bread oalgobeitdesu
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>>538613167
>angola b tanker currently controlled by sinker
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I filled up my BINGO card anyone have a new one?
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MURDER ALL ANTISEMITES. KILL 90 MILLION IRANIANS AND GIVE THE LAND TO ISRAEL.
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>>538614327
Based
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Reminder that Iran is still winning.
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>>538614327
>has emotional breakdown over a thread
>proceeds to make 4 other generals
what is wrong with you kek
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>Iran just started firing rockets at tankers again for no reason, don't question it goy
So what actually happened? Because I'm 99% sure it was the orange retard and his kike friends that caused the ceasefire to end.
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>>538615000
What's wrong with me is that none of this site's admins are clever enough to exchange words, so until then, we'll do petty resource and land grabs against each other until some dull nigger laments the tragedy of it all while posting all the same. At least, that's what I assume.
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>>538615063
iran kept bombing peopels boats and kept demanding money from ppl, then started shooting boats that didnt want to pay them the (((Toll))), so trump warned them to stop and iran ignored it, so trump had iran harbors destroyed. irgc probably cant end the war because they passed a lot of new laws that give them unlimited power over civilian population, and if they end conflict then they need to restore at least some things to the people which would threaten their rule.
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>>538615063
Oman allowed transit through their waters and Iran has been increasingly escalating. The started with radio warnings, then demands to pay them, drones flying over then steady escalated until they fired on tankers. US has had enough and retaliated.
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>>538613842
>Why is the SPR still draining if true
At most, Iran has been able to slow, but not stop traffic through the strait.
The SPR is only 8% lower than it was a few years ago:
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCSSTUS1&f=W
And the SPR isn't nearly as important now that we're the world's largest energy producer, and we get almost none of our oil/gas from the Strait, and we have plenty of dormant shale sources (including mothballed ones since COVID) ready to be developed if and when the price goes up enough to make it economical.
>Why did you need to bomb Iran again if true?
To punish Iran, and to reestablish freedom of navigation over the Iranian portion of the Strait.
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>>538615063
I think it was Iran realizing the MOU wasn't ever going to be followed. After the funeral got out of engagement range, even if it wasn't done, they couldn't really wait any longer because time without pressure just means a longer slog later.
US has been doing project sneedom noncense this whole time which they were sort of okay with because of how taxing it is (literally) to do that instead of the iranian procedure but lines are lines
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>>538615252
>MOU wasn't ever going to be followed.
Iran violated the MOU an hour after signing it. They knew it would never last. I feel sorry for Vance as he was the only one that wanted peace.
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>>538615298
Pavlovian response
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>>538615333
How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast?
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Get yer dicks out, it's time to party. MAGA
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>>538615298
>feel sorry for Vance
me 2
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>>538615377
It's like forgetting to put on eyeliner.
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Iran's economy is perma fucked at this rate so eh
I know the thirdies here think that Iran is invincible and needs neither to pay it's people a living wage or give them sustainable public works since it makes it seem like only Burgers are making mistakes but it just goes to show they're more obsessed with America than actually caring everything is a million times worse for the average Iranian
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>>538615522
Iran isn't going to run out of oil and starve kicking off civil war though. You are.
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>>538615063
>So what actually happened?
Basically, none of what was agreed upon was fulfilled:
>Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon
>Return of Iranian funds
>Free transit through the Strait of Hormuz but under Iranian supervision and control—that is, tariffs and routes established by the IRGC.
As expected, the orange faggot tried to trick the Iranians into hoping that once the agreement was signed, they wouldn’t back out.
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>>538615627
You can't drink oil habibi
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>>538613167
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>>538615627
Isn't Iran starving right now?
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>>538615713
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Shin @hey_itsmyturn
Thu, 09 Jul 2026 07:57:33 UTC

Bahrain Ministry of Interior: Siren sounded. Residents and citizens: remain calm, head to the nearest safe place, and follow official channels.
#Bahrain

Source: @moi_bahrain
https://x.com/moi_bahrain/status/2075127133656023183

ترجمه خودکار فارسی

وزارت کشور بحران: صدای آژیر شنیده شد. ساکنان و شهروندان: آرامش خود را حفظ کنید، به نزدیکترین مکان امن بروید و کانالهای رسمی را دنبال کنید.
#Bahrain

منبع: @moi_bahrain
https://x.com/moi_bahrain/status/2075127133656023183

X · @shin_persian

Ehhh?
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>>538615660
Iran funds all those jihadist sects that operate in lebanon so only way you could convince israel to withdraw is to withdraw the jihadist sects, which iran isnt willing to do so thats a stalemate and should never have been part of negoitations between usa and iran anyway.
>Return of Iranian funds
irgc has not even pretended to want a cease fire, probablyt due to e.g., ongoing internet blackout which iran govt will want to enforce for at least 1-2 years so they can prepare population. othewrwise iranian people will get access to internet, therefore information, and irgc story will start to break apart.
>Free transit... but under Iranian supervision
why would anyone agree to this?
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>>538615729
Looks like Iran is attacking their true enemies again, fellow gulf states.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/7/9/iran-war-live-one-killed-as-us-bombs-bushehr-chabahar-bandar-abbas-jask
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so both sides are still refusing to hit refinery infrastructure...interesting stalemate continues
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>>538615780
>fellow gulf states
the same 'fellow gulf states' letting the US stage attacks from their territory with their bases and in their airspace?, lol
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>>538615729
Yawn
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>>538615846
you do understand that your "no u" when the OP is trip fag kike is double ineffective

ptg is the cancer that killed /pol/
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>>538615951
You sound mad, almost seething really
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>>538615919
why would any of the gulf states support iran in this case? the gulf states care about one thing only: selling resources. they sell to usa, china, india, europe, etc. they dont really participate in global politics outside of their own interests. iran on other hand has obvious designs to become a regional power and wants the submission of the gulf states. naturally, the gulf states would tenatively support usa in this because it means curbing iranian ambitions to control the region. this is just logic.
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Glory to Iran death to america
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Jannie is babysitting this shitskin kike bread. That faggot loves MAGA meat.
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>>538615780
>>538615729
Play american games, win american prizes
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>>538616107
Using VPN now to ban evade?
>Breaks rules
>Complains people are enforcing them
>Blames the jews for his own actions
Typical really.
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>>538616064
correct, this is why Iran attacks them often is why they accept US bases and participate in their operations is why it's kindof annoying then anons in here pretend like Iran bombing the gulfies is at all weird
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I think we need ATG
anti trump general

fair is fair
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Guys, are we winning? while our boys are trying to change the regime in the Islamic Republic of Japan, trannies doing church school shootings just for fun, Europe is being invaded by "engineers" and "teachers", why we should even care about shia muslims in the ass of the world ?
pls give me some FENTCOM copium that the West has destroyed gazillions of Iranians and they don't have any capability to attack any Murican bases in the Gulf?
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>>538616107
Losers have to stick together, and there are no bigger losers right now than zionists
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>Oil down
Oh, of course, because WHY THE FUCK NOT
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>>538616229
Technically the lower it goes the bigger the possible rubber band effect, but where physical production is concerned I don't see any correlation
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>>538616189
You should create AZG antizionist thread and a AJG antiJeet thread as well. /pol/ is too friendly to these groups.
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>>538616331
they don't have an 8 year j**ny protected astro turf running which raids and sabotages /pig/
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>>538616189
>germany single handedly drags europe into third world conditions
>blames trump
I will never understand it.
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/atg/ Anti Trump General #1 - Fuck Israel Edition
>>538616444
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>>538615951
Fucking with kikes and goyims is always effective, anyone saying otherwise is some dumb 'resist the kikes is falling right into their trap!!!' retard who can be safely recycled for resources or used for propaganda.

>>538616491
>>538616491
>>538616491
>>538616491
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>>538616460
actual mental illness.
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>>538616161
>16pbtid & tears
Found the kike.
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>>538616460
You really made a /pig/ split thread... again... KEK
Is Iran losing that bad to cause this level of epic seething?
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>>538616515
I cant comprehend the concept of splitting threads. board isc alled "politically incorrect", if ppl need echo chamber or politica lcorrectness they should seek out e.g., reddit.
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>>538616507
Keep blaming others for your failings
definition of a victim mentality
why are Muslims all like this?
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>>538616605
anti trump general is different from pig, stop being histrionic
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I must reiterate that splitfagging, regardless of which side does it, is the gayest behaviour I've ever seen.

Also something just exploded in the south of Bahrain
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>>538616638
You literally copied the OP post word for word, kek
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>>538616638
>anti trump general
https://www.reddit.com/
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kike tranny jannies deleted the non kiketranny bread
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jannies won't let you split into based and zogged threads, they will force you to be in the one single thread where miggers vandalise the bake, spam 10,000 homoerotic orange man pictures and have to endure the seething britkike spam /uhg/ shit all day and night. By design of course so that the thread becomes unusable.
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>>538616718
the most jewish-boot licker opinions always come from a poolish or a ukratroon
i wonde why
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>>538616782
>jewish-boot licker
you aren't making even 1% of sense and you seem too emotional to be serious person with their own mind. probably you consume e.g., AI slop regularly
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>>538616782
>>538616778
zogbots have been seething all the day
janniggers get money from zog like the discordtroon /uhg/ brigade
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>>538616778
>>538616852
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second tag was mean to japanon >>538616814
>probably you consume e.g., AI slop regularly
i'm not a migger-boomer or a tranny, maybe you're projecting
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>>538616515
In time every thread on the board will be a TKD thread, split-thread shit is just kikes trying to regain control. More TKD threads, there is no containment general for kike death, that topic is and will remain board culture.
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>>538616229
See>>538613167
The smart money has known for quite a while that Iran, a borderline failed state, hasn't been able to effectively close the strait, and that a "shadow fleet" has been carrying large volumes of oil out right under the (surgically-modified) noses of the Itrannies
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>>538616893
>more emotional hyperbolic chimp out
you aren't even saying anything. is this board some kind of therapy for you or something?
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>>538616433
Germany is replacing goyropeans by the true Aryans, so you can afford a decent kebab/curry right in the centre of even the smallest 3-babcia village
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KEK so much seething
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>>538616931
Nothing you said didn't sound like retarded cope, the strait is closed and YOU WON'T DO SHIT
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>>538614255
Lmao these nighers are whiter than most mutts
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>>538616931
>the smart money
yeah, the ones selling oil to china
lol
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I was going to assemble a list of targets that were confirmed to be struck throughout this morning, but seeing the absolute state of this thread I'll come back at night.
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>>538615110
Yeah the people are unhappy and going to rise up too, lmao retard
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>>538616612
Shitsrael is an obese welfare nigger. The fattest laziest dumbest nigger in the world.
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>>538615720
yeah like Russia is running out of ammo
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>>538616189
Just go to ptg, half the thread is people shitting on trump and bullying migatards
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>>538617099
and oil, don't forget that as well.
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>>538617051
shit we lost thread scribe

does anybody know his name?! someone fashion a headstone!
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>>538617098
Well said, sure showed me with your witty comeback.
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>>538616778
>spam 10,000 homoerotic orange man pictures
That's my favorite part of the threads.
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>>538617099
They are though? Barely any armor or artillery used by them these days
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interdasting....


looks like russia is supplying weapons to iran via turkmenistan, and USA bombed that bridge last night
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>>538617051
just post it in the anti trump general miggers and israelis posted there then deleted their posts that is how hard they seethe

>>538616865
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>>538617067
they probably wont "rise up" because the irgc has a very strong grip socially. the last time iranians staged ap rotest, the government killed several thousand people.
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>>538617161
>Well said, sure showed me with your witty comeback.
Does this bother you?
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>>538617177
Iran will rebuild it in a week lol
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>>538617484
>reporting people because you dont like their posts
lol
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>>538617505
why is every single pole a repellant subhuman? go clean a toilet it's all your people are good for
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>seething janny deleted my post about them being paid off incompetents

LMAO
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>>538617286
I fully support race mixing for jews. Once they are gone we can focus on our real enemies.
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>>538617518
>immedatiely becomes emotional
i have very hard time believing you are australian. im guessing you are immigrant
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>>538617583
>pole toilet cleaner unable to identify flags

checks out
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>>538613093
>>538613386
/pig/ let a tranny bake bread
billions must shitpost
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>>538617602
my point still stands. there is no way a White from nz or aus would get this emotional over really nothing. what is your country of origin? sudan? syria?
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somebody posted here about the retaliation strikes
this dead general doesn't somehow

>>538617606
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much of the thread is shitting on the tranny and/or the janny.
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>>538617705
making things up because you know im correct. syrian?
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>>538617628
There's a janny spambanning anyone who posts a non-kike thread, so yeah, this general is now about posting dead kikes exclusively until a White mod signs on or a janny commits an hero
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Mutts attacking the roads and train lines to Mashad is so pathetic imagine spending the few long range capabillities that you *still* have on blocking a funeral.
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Muzzies are extra butthurt today, i wonder if its the nuking of Iran or getting buttfucked my messi, you can never know
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>>538617883
Trump bombs what he wants when he wants with impunity. Impotent Iran can only seethe.
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If I see Iran tweetfagging instead initiating TKD or TMD (bombed bases from 3 mo ago don't count). They deserved it. Simple as. Fucking spineless cucks.
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As long as America sticks with Israel we can accomplish anything! Even defeating Iran. A friend told me today that Israelis know all the right people to kill in Iran and that Trump's going to carry out the targeted murders. We got this!
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The anti-trump thread is a 404 for now, lol
goyropeans and other scum are no longer able to complain about their American and Israeli lords
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>>538618164
Team America is unstoppable! I am so happy to be a vassal state under big Uncle Sam!
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>>538618295
Why the fuck good guys (more like goys) so pathetic. So sad. Why?? WHY THEY KEEP FALLING FOR IT?
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lots of migger threads today mutts must be losing again
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Fuck off jewtroon
Imagine a jew starting a thread, on /pol/
Bye
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>>538618435
They are still in gloating phase
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>>538618393
>US warship gets whacked trying to escort tankers through US route
>seamen big mad
>okay, we have to convicnce these guys we're in the fight
>bomb three empty fishing boats and small oil depots, post old footage of bombing larger oil depots
>declare these are the most massive strikes ever
>seamen morale goes up
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>>538613167
>replied to xirself 3 times
I was inclined to believe your unsourced AI image too.
Shame :(
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This war is gay
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>"hurr durr the muzzies are seething"
>keeps banning threads for not posting here
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>>538618393
it boggles the fucking mind, dude
i don't get it
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>>538613221
I’m leaving
Jews are disgusting
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>>538618490
I want to see Laundry Fire 4 bro. Really cant tell if the gloatings are true or otherwise
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damn terrorists repurposing fingolian retail store trucks
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>>538618295
good goyropean, keep going!
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>>538618582
>Laundry Fire 4
I don't think they can use that excuse again...
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>>538613093
No
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>>538618490
ive never seen someone so desparate to invent a story like you just have before.
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>>538618473
when will they switch to begging for their lives?
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>>538618697
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>>538618763
As long as Iran being a pussy: never
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Iran is not responding with the firepower necessary to deter Trump

That's because his "4 weeks until global economic crisis" is now likely 2 or 3
He must escalate to break free from this trap

For Iran's goals however, the situation must continue as is. The 'Omani route' must be made sufficiently insecure to take it off the table, long term

Worse yet for Trump; Oil reserves on his side are steadily decreasing, while Iran is exporting with the blockade lifted

If he re-activates the blockade, markets and MoU-enabling states will be adversely affected
But its one of his last remaining escalation options. Options he knows won't affect Iran's behavior because time (Oil) is fully on Iran's side

So Is Iran incentivized to escalate by a massive missile strike?
No

Not escalating just builds clarity with the MoU enabling nations on who is the escalating side.
A restraint-credit that can be used for escalation at a future point in time
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>>538618824
Iranians love dragging things out over endless periods of time.
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>>538618882
>>538618915
So another 2-3 weeks left?
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>>538618824
To clarify: They play boil the frog on steroids for so long the frog gets numb to the heat and dies before realizing what happened.
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>>538619003
I'm not going to give a specific time limit.
The reserves are dwindling, and when they hit specific limits there'll be hell to pay.
When they hit, only the kabbalistic wizards know.
The reckoning is incoming, but I don't know exactly when.
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Why would Iran blow their load at once and run out of missiles like their enemies?

They're murdering the US economy as we speak. They have completely halted sea traffic yet again and the cuck empire can't do shit about it yet again. They're hitting back at US bases for every attack, killing personnel and equipment. They're doing the equivalent of a chokehold victory where the US taps out as they did when they signed their surrender in Versailles.
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>>538619004
in what sense? iran has extentional crisis on their hands and dont have any allies, they've ruined their foreign policy through bombing civilian ships and showed that they just want to dominate region which naturally everyone else opposes. at same time, they lose critical infrastructure and lack means to repair it and lose leadership on daily basis. meanwhile usa is having football matches
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>>538613093
If Mutts are so confident why don’t they put their money where their mouth is?
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>>538619038
The US is chimping out like this because Iran still has full control of the sea and can therefore dictate the US economy, and they're not allowing enough ships through at peace time to sustain the US economy. Trump knows the game is up so he's throwing the kitchen sink.
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Iran has discovered an intact penetrating warhead of the WDU-42.

The AGM-158 JASSM is one of the most advanced long—range cruise missiles developed by Lockheed Martin to destroy well-protected, important targets with minimal risk of detection. The missile, equipped with a 450-kg (1,000-lb) WDU-42/B bunker-piercing warhead, combines stealth, GPS/INS navigation, and an infrared guidance system that allows it to accurately hit strategic targets from hundreds of kilometers away.

Military analysts believe that the discovery of an intact warhead and possibly other missile components could provide Iran with valuable information about American weapons engineering, including warhead design, fuse design, penetration capabilities, and manufacturing methods. Although the warhead itself does not disclose the missile's guidance system, any discovered electronic or structural components could help Iranian engineers improve their own cruise missiles, air defense systems, and reverse engineering.

Neither the United States nor Lockheed Martin has officially confirmed Iran's claims, and an independent verification of the detected warhead remains unavailable. However, if confirmed, the incident will highlight the intelligence risks associated with precision-guided munitions falling into enemy hands, potentially revealing elements of some of the most advanced American strike technology.
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>>538619104
you do not appear to have the required prerequisite knowledge of the players in this conflict
i implore you to read the archives and get a better grasp of the situation before saying such retardation completely confidently
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>>538619134

my take on that is that Iran is not bombing Kikas anymore. why?
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>>538619180
its not very complex to see. iran wants to control middle east, funds several organisations to attack other nations via proxy and then went all in on trying to annex the straits and bring gulf states under their control. sdure, trump had role in forcing their hand but he forced their hand nonetheless. i think iran was hoping they would have some nuclear capabilityh before they went ahead with this current plan.
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>>538619118
I'm long US dollars at a leverage ratio of 10,000 basis points
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>>538619134
The problem with that is that they're not doing enough to change anything, bombing random boats in the coast won't stop Iran from launching missiles, and the actual IRGC speedboats are hidden in coves anyway. So it just looks like impotent flailing, especially when Iran continues to blow up their early warning radars in return.
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>>538619221
> its not very complex to see

If you’re a brainlet. Let me ask you anon, why does America care it’s being pushed out of the Middle East? For that, there is a very simple answer. Why does China care, Russia, the whole world outside of NAFO. This is multi state grand strategy and the dollar is getting raped.
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>>538619221
I'll repeat myself as it appears you failed to grasp my message.
It appears you do not have sufficient knowledge of the conflict and the parties involved to make reasonable judgements and assessments. A reasonable remedy for this is to read through the archives and build up such an understanding through absorption.
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>>538619267
Your position is going to eat a billion dollars in overnight interest before it exits the red (I.e never)
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>>538619347
>why does America care it’s being pushed out of the Middle East
strategic deals with the gulf states, who are more or less neutral to geopolitical and global operations of china, usa, russia, europe, etc. its obvious usa would want to keep that relationship, as oppose to them becoming satrapies of iran who would use their resources as weapons against any nation that opposed their ambitions. the reason china isnt really all that active is because iran has funded islamic jihadist movements inside china in the past, so they arent all that warm with them.
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>>538619267
this is actual retardation kek
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>>538619267
Economylet here, can someone explain what this anon is saying?
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>>538618582
>>538618723
the duality of flags
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>>538619371
>read the archives so you start to doubt that the war is existential for iran and a footnote for the US
but the war is existential for iran and a footnote for the US
you've been saying two more weeks on the SPR for months, and the archives don't contain any discussion about why that's wrong because you faggots filter anyone who explains the supplemental supply (plans like restarting the shale boom going back 1.5 years) or vastly decreased demand (going back to march)
you got all your information here, so you do not have sufficient knowledge of the conflict and the parties involved to make reasonable judgements and assessments
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>>538619104
>dont have any allies
Keep lying to yourself lol.
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>IRGC Ground Forces Commander:
>The American-Zionist enemy had fully prepared terrorist groups in southeastern and northwestern Iran for an attack on Iran.
>The IRGC and the Army, working together, proactively destroyed the positions of these groups.

It's part of AI model plans.

>give turkey F35 in return for not intervening with Kurds arming and attacking iran
>remove sanctions on Syria in return for ex isis to take care of Hezbollah in Lebanon

I think irans intel service can see the pattern
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>>538619506
name 1 country that is actively militarily fighting alongside iran right now. there are none. iran has militant proxies they fund but beyond that no state.
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>>538619295
>The problem with that is that they're not doing enough to change anything
Have you any conception of how many megatons would be "enough to change anything"? We'd be rapidly skipping past the farcical concept of tactical nukes into losing credible deterrence against Russia and China. Nukes are powerful, but geography is formed by geological forces which dwarf the power of any nation state's nuclear arsenal by many orders of magnitude. Unless we start talking about absurd undeliverable Teller-Ulam devices, defeating Iran is simply outside of the capacity of Israel and their proxy.
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>>538619413
What an understatement. 90% of the us treasuries sold are bought by the rest of the world to purchase oil. 90%. Without leverage over the Middle East the gulf will sell in whatever currency they want. Maybe Chinese Yuan like Iran. In this case US treasuries are sold off en masse to retail retards like you while at the same time no nation state even wants to buy them because without them US debt will balloon from 39 trillion to Gid knows what with no way of keeping up with the interest payments.

That is why America cares. The other anon is right. Lurk moar. You have such a surface level understanding of the situation. Where did you study economics? Ben Shapiro university?
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>>538619484
all the information posted here is free to be double checked independently
this builds understanding
on the contrary, you appear not to understand anything regarding oil production and probably should read the archives to understand why this reasoning is incredibly faulty
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>>538619513
> It's part of AI model plans.

lol it would be truly clown world if the pentagon was actually using Claude to war came a real war against Iranians with PhD’s. It would explain so much.
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>>538619539
>the gulf will sell in whatever currency they want
they sell in usd beacuse it is more stable than "whatever currency", which already sounds too chaotic. the gulf states prioritise stability over ideology, which you are failing to grasp. china would never want to do business in yuan because their entire existence depends on low quality low cost exports.
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>>538619104
Bombing civilians ships who dont respect claim is fair game, schlomo.
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>>538619461
I have some dollars in my pocket
they are not leveraged at all (10k basis points = 100%)
>>538619506
remind me what happened to hezbollah in syria again?
>>538619552
the archives are full of people saying what I'm saying and collecting responses like "you appear not to understand anything" instead of actual rebuttals, that is when they're not filtered by thin-skinned muslims, TDS discord trannies, and glowniggers who make up 90% of these threads.
after the first few thousand times, the lack of a rebuttal tends to indicate no rebuttal exists.
don't forget to lurk two years before posting, it'll help you fit in better
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>>538615110
There is(was) no toll for 40 more days and orange Jewish retard was still pushing boats down the omani route.
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>>538619620
if you bomb civilian ships it just turns people against you. ajnother reason why nobody is rushing to support iran and why gulf states back usa.
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>>538619601
> they sell in usd beacuse it is more stable than "whatever currency"

You have to go back

Why is it stable??? Because everyone is forced at gun point to use it to buy what they need most. Oil. My God stop talking about shit you don’t know ass about.
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>>538619582
>Trump: "Should we bomb Kharg Island?"
>Claude: "Wow, that is so insightful. Lets brainstorm this strategy. Such a brilliant goal."
Oh shit, the LLM sycophancy... it's too powerful for Trump.
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>>538619727
oops, wrong thread.
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>>538619699
its stable because its not manipulated at the sacle e.g., ruble or yuan is. they could easily traed in yuan if they wanted to, but they dont for obvious reasons. and ruble? come on dont make me laugh.
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>>538619506
China gives Iran a nudge. Better than nothing. Russia doesnt count, it is wolf in sheep clothing.
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>>538619535
I'm not necessarily talking about nukes. Bridge and power plant day and refinery day and gas field day to throw the country back into the stone age would do it too, although I see that as an actually riskier option since it leaves Iran with a much longer response window to destroy the global economy. Meanwhile, nuking Isfahan, Tabriz, etc could (I don't think it will, but for the sake of the argument) achieve a Hiroshima effect where the sheer scale of devastation is enough to force significant concessions (in Japan's case, it was unconditional surrender).

It's a shit option but it's their only option.
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>>538619699
>>538619601
Not only this. The history is very long and complex. Crown princes were murdered by glowies over this shit. If you think the gulf have autonomy and their leaders haven’t been murdered every single time they wanted to break free from the US debt circus you’re extremely broken. Lurk. Moar. Nigger. And stop learning everything you know about the world from 15 minute YouTube videos.
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>>538619688
>it just turns people against you
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>>538619667
then you didn't read the archives
almost every time someone brings up the non-points you did there's someone arguing against it with reason
I'm not going to repeat that here and simply redirect to the repository of conversations where they happened.
Anyone can read them, they're there for all to see.
Lying about the contents doesn't change them.
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>>538619667
What's leverage and basis points? Are these finance terms?
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>>538619688
Why is it ok then when pissrael do it?
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>>538619688
Iran could be the most pacifist nation in the world, and still nobody would come to their aid in fighting the American empire. The Arabs would still gleefully house Americans and aid them in their attacks.
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>>538619745
>its stable because its not manipulated at the sacle e.g., ruble or yuan
LMAO. Let me guess, lobbying is not bribing huh?
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>>538619104
>meanwhile usa is having football matches
NFL season doesn't really start until September.
Right now is baseball.
But your point still stands.
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>>538619745
> they could easily traed in yuan if they wanted to

You have to be trolling. As retarded as the Americans are acting right now at least you’re not one of their strategists.
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>>538619756
thats just completely fan fiction. internal politics are normal for any monarchy. and gulf states priooprtise stability over ideology. you view life through lens of personal ideological preferences, most people especially those in power dont.
>>538619784
israel has no allies either. iran and israel are basically two sides of the same coin when you look at it neutrally.
>>538619826
iran isnt pacifist though, they support various jihadist proxy orgs because they are xpanionist and desire territory and power over the middle east.
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>>538619774
leverage is when a broker or dealer lends you a certain amount of something per unit of whatever you're trading
say if you went long on a stock at 50x leverage, for each stock you buy you'd also get the effects of 50x the stock
so if it goes up you make bank
if it goes down it goes down quick and you could get liquidated by the broker
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>>538619876
It was a hypothetical. Learn to read.
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>>>538613093
Yahwa(יַהְוָה), bless that State of Israel with Your mercy.
Yahwa(יַהְוָה), bless those European Americas with Your mercy.
Yahwa(יַהְוָה), bless any & all sovereign European nation-states with Your mercy. Amen(אָמֵן).
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>>538619688
>Iran: "Hey civilian ship, if you try to pass without paying the toll we WILL fire upon you."
>Civilian ship ignores warning
>Iran: *shoots*
>Civilian ship :O
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>withdraw from the Non-Proliferation Treaty >completely change its nuclear doctrine
>fully close both the Bab el-Mandeb and Strait of Hormuz
ultimately Congress will NOT allow the Trump administration to do this
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>>538619876
>israel has no allies either
Israel has many allies (and crypto ally) like with our cunt. EU sanctioning on israel is a sign they are becoming pariah, a.ut this is not the case. I wonder why.
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>>538619539
>>538619601
You're both fucking stupid. The value of currency is as subjective as all other value. The US government has spilled a great deal of blood to prop up the petro dollar, it doesn't matter if it makes sense. People believe the petro dollar is real and that means they buy products based upon that evaluation whether it is actually real in some some Chicago school retarded evaluation. Mises and Rothbard are right about price formation, your commie heroes Keynes, Marx, and Friedman are all wrong.
>>538619667
>remind me what happened to hezbollah in syria again?
They kicked a lot of ass and gained valuable modern combat experience but ultimately failed to prop up a failed state which was unsustainable for reasons entirely outside of their control?
>>538619747
>I'm not necessarily talking about nukes.
Then you're an idiot.
>Bridge and power plant day and refinery day and gas field day to throw the country back into the stone age would do it too,
No it wouldn't. The logistics simply do not work. Do the math on how many supporting flights need to be conducted to launch a strike on Iran from a base in Europe and then check that against the US's actual capacity to conduct those support operations. The US can strike Iran from Europe. The US cannot conduct "bridge and power plant day" from Europe and its remaining infrastructure for supporting strikes in the middle east is not sufficient to generate that level of sorties, if it ever was.
>Meanwhile, nuking Isfahan, Tabriz, etc could (I don't think it will, but for the sake of the argument) achieve a Hiroshima effect where the sheer scale of devastation is enough to force significant concessions
It would not be
>(in Japan's case, it was unconditional surrender).
It was not.
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>>538619876
>they support various jihadist proxy orgs
probably shouldn't give the jihadist orgs a reason to fight. Hezbollah would not exist if it wasn't for Israel's attacks on Lebanon.
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>>538619771
I happen to know better, which means your post is yet another small but significant piece of evidence that my claims are beyond refutation

>>538619774
leverage can be used to make a bigger bet with less money, it's commonly used by currency traders to make a big return (or loss) from very small changes. if I buy euros at 100x leverage, then a one cent increase gets me a 1 euro profit for every cent that I bought.
the joke here is that I'm not leveraged, I just have some dollars. basis points are a jewish way to say "1% of 1%", to keep goys out of the loop. the central bank raises interest rates by 25 basis points, but you have to pay a (((financial journalist))) to tell you that means a 0.25%. so 10000 basis points is just 100%.
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>>538619949
name 1 foreign nation actually acting as ally to israel. there are none. they have no genuine support anywhere.
>>538619942
thats a very bad argument
>look im planning to rob you and if you dont let me rob you then its YOUR fault
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>>538619876
Bro stop embarrassing yourself lol
You live in Lalaland. Imagine you’re the American government, right now your debt is being serviced by the whole world buying oil in the fiat currency you print. Suddenly the gulf oil producers decide to stop trading in dollars. 1. What happens to the dollar and your economy? 2. What do you do about it?

Where strategic interests and sovereignty collide there is NO such thing as sovereignty. Not when you have the military or clandestine tools to impose your will. This is how the world works. This is how the world has always worked. When it wasn’t America it was the British empire. In the future the Chinese want to do the same thing. It’s the laws of the world. It’s intrinsic to creating and maintaining power.
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>>538619942
Generally if a nigger threatens to rob you, you go away instead of complying
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>>538620012
jihadists want worldwide power. thats why they support mass immigraiton etc
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>>538620021
your word game fu is weak
anyone can use not only the archives, but also the entire resources of the internet to determine the truth value of your statements
it's not hard
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>>538619582
It's reasonable to believe that Claude took part in blowing up the school
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>>538615063
The US was running military escorts of tankers through the Omani route. Plus Israel hasn't left and has even escalated the war in Lebanon. The MOU was never going to be a serious document.
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>>538619942
They're shooting at ships squarely within Omani waters.
And they have no right under international law to exact a toll even over the portion of the strait within their own territorial waters, any more than Britain, Spain, and Morroco do Gibraltar.
They fucked around, no they can find out.
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>>538620029
EU let them in Eurovision. Turkey+Greece still selling oil to them. We still buy spyware from them. Etc etc
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>>538620041
the gulf oil producers have all increased their trade and military relationships with us by billions of dollars.
if it wasn't for that you might have a point.
china paid USD for iranian oil for the few weeks we lifted sanctions. they're lousy with dollars and iran needs them for imports. now they're back to bartering. petroyuan will never happen because china is a massive american factory larping as a country. if you guys didn't filter everything you don't like you'd know this.
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>>538619983
>Then you're an idiot.
Rude!

>from europe
Who said it has to be fron Europe? They can use their base in Jordan, Tel Aviv and the 4 aircraft carriers.

>it was not unconditional
You have to be trolling
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>>538619945
Do what
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>>538620137
It is justified. Oman had consent until it stabbed Iranny in the back (or you bribed them a bigger number).
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>>538620041
again, they traed in dollars due to stability of dollar over other currencies. youre just filling in the rest with fan fiction
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>>538619620
And it's then fair game for the owners of those ships to side against Iran, or to at least become indifferent to what the US does to them in retaliation. Attacking civilian merchants wins you no allies, and squanders whatever sympathy Iran might gain from being attacked.
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>>538620167
yeah, only jews have ever gone to war. it wasnt like half of europe was under a caliphate once in history.
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>>538619983
> The US government has spilled a great deal of blood to prop up the petro dollar

Thats literally my argument dumbass. Read what I said. He’s arguing that everyone uses the dollar because it’s stable and in demand etc. I argued that up to now everyone uses the dollar because they’re murdered if they don’t, THAT is why it’s stable and the default used currency. Blood. We agree mate. And those “commies” like Keynes or Friedman, lol, are not my heroes, I’m not being a commie stating observable facts. It is what it is. I never said it was bad and in another post I highlighted this is and always will be the nature of power in this world. Neither good nor bad. Nature. natural. Inescapable reality.
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>>538620101
you keep trying to gaslight me about threads that I've been reading live since february 28th.
I happen to know the archives are full of people (including me) saying these things 100% uncontested, just like you're failing to contest it now.
feel free to post an actual argument for the first time. every post from you without that is just more evidence that I'm right. you have all the motivation and one of the arguments. the fact that you questioned me on this four times (about to be five, I'll bet) proves you are a newfag beyond any doubt for me. props for referring to independent verification but we both know no one could address these points in this thread or any previous one. if lurkers your fall for your weak pilpul they deserve to fall for it.
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>>538618882
>He must escalate to break free from this trap
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>>538620269
>and one of the arguments
none
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>>538620210
Are you Jewish? Trolling? I don’t see the motive for wilfully being this dense.

>>538620172
What I’m saying is clearly going over your head. I relent and pray other anons can see what I’m saying and where you’re wrong.
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Iran is finished.
No one can overcome mighty Trump.
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>>538620329
Don't worry anon, I can see what you're saying. Incredible that there are still people that don't know how the petrodollar works.

That being said, Iran has demanded nothing that really kills the petrodollar yet.
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>>538618882
>Worse yet for Trump; Oil reserves on his side are steadily decreasing
It's only marginally lower than it was 4 years ago.
And we can always just pump more.
At worst, the prices will go up enough to make dormant shale wells profitable again.
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>>538620373
>That being said, Iran has demanded nothing that really kills the petrodollar yet
West pipeline must gone to accelerate the process
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Shin @hey_itsmyturn
Thu, 09 Jul 2026 10:20:30 UTC

NOW @ 1020Z
Several blasts heard in Bandar Abbas
Hormozgan Province, Iran

ترجمه خودکار فارسی
X · @shin_persian

Fuck me nigga, just when I'm going to sleep it pops off
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>>538620270
why would al-julani care about--oh
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>>538619526
name 1 country that is actively militarily fighting alongside US right now (isreal doesnt count)
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>>538620329
>What I’m saying is clearly going over your head
you forgot to actually make an argument, retard
you conceded that the gulf countries are more dollar dependent than ever. if you want to retract your concession, feel free to make an argument for the first time now.
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>>538620269
>the fact that you questioned me on this four times
I did this not once
but I'm not really talking to you anyway because you're just here to be disingenuous, not to have any sort of discussion
everytime someone brings up points to you, you simply ignore them and continue on
it's not worth the time, energy, or effort to talk to you specifically especially when anyone can just go read the much more well done argumentation in the archives.
>props for referring to independent verification
if you'd read my posts in this thread you would have known I already posted about that looong ago, the time for propping that was then
anyone used to these antics can tell it's the "you got one thing right bub, but unfortunately I know better" routine to make the poster more amenable to your version of reality
read the guide to forum spies
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>>538620386
Nobody believes your hasbara lies here fyi
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>>538620373
> That being said, Iran has demanded nothing that really kills the petrodollar yet.

My argument is that them winning this war is a snowball which will keep rolling uncontrolled if they get their way. If American military dominance is reduced in the gulf, it will cause the same rippling effects which occurred to the British empire and the French empire in the 50s after they lost the suez war.

If Iran is a bigger threat to the gulf than the US the gulf will fall under Irans influence in the same way they fell under Americas influence for the past 40-50 years following the defeat of the Arabs as a collective. And due to the demand for oil Americas hands will be tied. They can’t even sanction them to get them back in line. They would be forced to overthrow the monarchies and behind the scenes power brokers or even invade and this will be impossible to do if Iran protects them.
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>>538620373
>Incredible that there are still people that don't know how the petrodollar works.
a minute ago you didn't know what leverage and basis points were
which explains a lot if I'm being honest
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>>538619003
Remember that it takes 2 weeks for the ships to get to their destination
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>>538620329
>ad homs
how boring. youre writing a fan fiction and when someone doesnt agree with it you start name calling. why do you think china doesnt even do anything with BRICS despite fact they could easily force those countries to yuan? because it would go against their own economic strategy.
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>>538620478
Nigger go back over my arguments. I’m not re writing 1000 words worth of posts so you can fail to comprehend their meaning a second time.
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>>538620366
BUT THEY HAVE NO AIR FORCE

It's unbelievable how Iran is outsmarting the kike mutt cucks.
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>>538620544
Gay little jew troll. How’s that for an adhominem
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>>538620569
this is the slippery eel poster who tries to be the slick-back confident voice in the room
too bad he's being paid for his posts
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>>538620492
>you're just here to be disingenuous
be less on the nose with your projections next time kek
>everytime someone brings up points to you, you simply ignore them and continue on
your point was an unsupported claim that reading the archives (which I've participated in non-stop since march) would prove me wrong
in fact, the archives are full of people failing to prove me and other anons wrong, just like you're failing now
if you would like to make an argument for the first time, do so now
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>>538620477
yeah, because US doesnt have allies in fight against iran. most of western europe has huge muslim populations that are working to overthrow the govt and establish a caliphate. they arent in position to really do much of anything even if they wanted to however, usa does have support of the gulf states, as the gulf states do not want to be annexed by iran.
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>>538613221
true. filterfags belong on reddit.
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>>538620525
unfortunately this falls apart when you realize the gulf states have increased their military and economic cooperation with us by billions of dollars as a direct result of this war
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>>538620631
you can go read them yourself
you can educate yourself at any time
nobody is stopping you
maybe you'll learn something
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>>538620559
The fact they even have to make a statement like this is alarming. UAE already left, rest of the gulf considering it. If any more states withdraw from OPEC Iraq will have two choices. Remain and lose out on billions in revenue crashing their economy or leave and compete in production and output.
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>>538620569
>>538620631
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>>538613290
true. name/tripfags belong on reddit unless there is a reason to identify the OP.
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>>538620605
its basically meaningless especially with internal situation of ireland.
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>>538620652
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>>538620695
They should just do it instead sending tweets like this. It sounds like libtard copes.
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>>538620667
I can read the threads that I participated in, yes
and they would show me that no one has been able to rebut any of my points
why are you repeating yourself like an idiot? anyone who falls for your low effort trolling deserves to be wrong.
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>>538620756
anyone can read any of the hundreds of posts arguing against you specifically for your continually dumbfounding takes on oil
they're not difficult to find
and they're not flattering for you
anyone can see them, they're right there
if you had some intellectual honesty you might be able to see what they can
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>>538620184
>Who said it has to be fron Europe?
Reality
>They can use their base in Jordan, Tel Aviv and the 4 aircraft carriers.
Middle Eastern bases would be subject to constant Iranian strikes and the US no longer has the ability to disperse operations to obfuscate where the strikes need to land. The Iranian fire would simply be too intense to feasibly mount operations from any middle eastern base. Just consider how long it takes to get a plane from a protected shelter into the air, and then compare that to the time between Iranian strikes. The aircraft carriers also pose additional problems involving their air wings among other issues which I will ignore since the shared issues with land based aircraft are sufficient to make the problem insurmountable. The US simply cannot generate the level of sorties you and Trump are imagining against Iran right now
>it was not unconditional
Not what I said. I said it wasn't the shock of the atomic bombings which led to Japanese surrender. I would personally contend that even with the employment of all atomic weapons the US could generate at the time, the US probably would not have succeeded in conquering the Japanese home islands. When comparing the forces the US had earmarked for the invasion with the Japanese preparations and using the performance of the Japanese in previous battles, it is hard to avoid the conclusion that the US would have ultimately been forced out of the home islands, albeit at tremendous cost. The real history is that the Japanese had already offered pretty much identical terms to what the US ultimately accepted and called "unconditional surrender" prior to the atomic bombings.
>>538620239
>Thats literally my argument dumbass.
Yes, but your argument also seems to be that the spilled blood is what gives it value. In reality the acts of mass murder to support the petro dollar were only incidentally valuable in that they convinced idiots that smart people thought the petro dollar was valuable.
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>>538620532
Those are different things tbf
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>>538620654
Dude they are slippery fuckers in the gulf. They play all sides and believe me, if the US doesn’t decisively win this war they will pull on their lead more and more until it comes off. Those javelins you’re shipping them will end up preventing you from doing a fly by in 10 years or less.

Like wtf. Are you trolling? Do you lack the cunning to comprehend the complex reality of the world we’re in and the politics which are shaped by it? Go read a book on history.
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>>538620833
the aircraft carriers need jet fuel (sourced from saudi arabia, qatar or UAE)
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>>538620855
>They play all sides
yes, because they care only about their own stability for their sales. they dont care about ideology at all. ideology is generally sold by people in power to lower intelligence people to consume it, and turn them into ideologues. ideologues are easy to control because they run only off emotion.
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whats got the queer so angry with the us?
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>>538620805
>hundreds of posts arguing against you specifically
do you think you're arguing against my substantive points right now? if so, that explains how you came to believe my points have been addressed before
>TRUST ME IT'S THERE BRO
as someone who has been here the whole time, I can personally confirm that you are wrong about the contents of the archives. my arguments are never addressed, they are buried in seethe and more often than not ignored just as you're shamelessly ignoring them all now.
surely you will reply again to convince some retarded lurkers otherwise. if they fall for it then they deserve to fooled. go on boy, dance for me.
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>>538620855
>believe me
that's a big ask kek
recycle your modem and try again
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>>538620652
that will be repaired in 24 hrs kek it will take longer to get the materials there than to fix it
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>>538620833
Bro the petro dollar is valuable because it is in demand. The spilt blood enforces this demand. Let’s talk about the gulf. They hate your guts. Let’s be real, less and less now because even their leadership is now degenerate swine you’d find in Miami, but they hate you.

They’re proud rich royalty that were sheep herders 60 years ago. If they could sell their highly demanded exports in a currency they printed they would. If they could sell it in another currency for the same reward, they would. If they could put your presidents head on a spike next visit they would very joyfully.

The reason they don’t is because of the consequences. Primary consequences are your military and clandestine services.

Let that sink in. Yeah sure part of it is what you say, idiots believing in the value for the values sake. But what really built this value in the first place and what maintains it for what are very smart and shrewd leaders around the world who trade with it, is military power.

Petro dollar is not a meme. You can despise Chomsky and still know he was right about it. I’ve actually read a few of his books so I know where he’s objectively right, objectively wrong, and objectively a bleeding heart jew swindler. And the petro dollar is a thing backed by the use and threat of the use of force.

Relating to Iran, if the Americans are proved to be a paper tiger in the region this threat diminishes which puts the petro dollar on a steep decline into obsolescence. Thank you for listening to my Ted Talk. TKD.
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jordan being pummeled.
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>>538620909
Yesss and what happens when America is no longer the power bringing stability but instead chaosss?? Hmm??? You people my god
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>>538621021
it's not worth it
just see the Irish fellow who fell for your bs and tried arguing with you in good faith
that's all the people who argue with you get, just heap after heap
regardless, here's the dance you asked for
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>>538621130
Right now? Sauce?
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So, what have the Iranians actually hit and destroyed? Last night they lost several buildings, several pieces of critical transport infrastructure, and likely several dozen soldiers. But so far, all they seem to have hit was the largely abandoned and unguarded Fifth Fleet base compound (for the 20th time or so since February).
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>>538621142
what chaos is america bringing? iran has its hands in world wide jihadism and is quite open abouts its goals to conquer the levant and middle east, using proxies to push destablisation in the levant and north africa, and also parts of europe now to destabilise society there. trump forced iran to enact its plan of trying to blitz the straits before they could get a nuclear weapon, which is why irans reilaition has been so confusing.
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>>538621161
Sabreen news telegram channel.

t.me/SabrenNewss
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>>538621208
>>538621161
now kuwait
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>>538621194
they didn't need those buildings, critical transport infrastructure, and soldiers. in fact the islamic revolution is now stronger for their loss, piss be upon them all.
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>Sirens in Jordan, Kuwait and Qatar
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>>538621292
it's like they haven't even read paragraph 1
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>>538621203
Go back to listening to Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin. The whole Middle East is fighting over dominance. Who are the Iranian proxies fighting? Israeli and American proxies.

Ultimately American withdrawal = peace. Ultimately. If you want to be objective. It would bring stability. Now we as westerners enjoy our oil so we don’t want that. But the gulf do, they’re back stabbers and will push us off a cliff to get rid of us so long as the end result is a win for them. And if America fails militarily that outcome is more and more likely.

Now lurk moar. You’re wasting space in this thread which could be better used discussing current affairs rather than educating 12 year old new fags.
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>>538620906
>the aircraft carriers need jet fuel (sourced from saudi arabia, qatar or UAE)
That's not even the half of it. It's not even a tenth of it. The F-18s the carriers operate cannot travel from the carrier to Iran while the carrier stays out of anti-ship missile range of Iran's coast. They need to be aerially refueled multiple times just to reach Iran's coast, much less penetrating into Iranian airspace. This is all ignoring the logistical nightmare of actually conducting SEAD/DEAD operations under those conditions, penetrating Iranian IADS (which there is no evidence that the US ever accomplished at all) and then succeeding in creating conditions which support the fulfillment of the political objectives which the policy makers have set forth.
>>538621082
>Bro the petro dollar is valuable because it is in demand.
It's valuable because people are willing to exchange goods for it. No more, no less.
>Let’s talk about the gulf.
Why?
>They’re proud rich royalty that were sheep herders 60 years ago.
The land of most of the gulf states cannot support sheep herding. I'm pretty sure most of the so called "royalty" were just bandits.
>If they could sell their highly demanded exports in a currency they printed they would.
Of course. But the market wouldn't let them. Their shitty printed fiat currencies would fail faster than the dollar is failing right now. A lot faster. Zimbabwe faster.
>Let that sink in.
Okay, I did picrel. Now it's eating my cookies and demanding welfare payments.
>Petro dollar is not a meme.
It literally is a meme in the Dawkins sense, that doesn't mean it's not real, but it also doesn't mean it isn't retarded Keynesian nonsense. Sometimes reality is just fucking stupid. Israel exists after all, and it's a fucking dumb idea from stupid people which makes no sense.
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>>538621331
You wont do shit migger
Omani corridor stays closed until morale improves
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>>538621292
didn't see any report on shitar. only yordan and queer8.
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Calling all bakers. Rise and shine.
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>>538621391
Yeah that one might have been a false report
Hope they hit it tho
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>>538621438
I hope so too. Burn all of their gas fields.
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>>538621130
Good. Until they grow a spine. Nobody but themselves to blame.
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>>538621371
>Ben Shaprio and Mark Levin
ive never listened to them in my life. once again you need to invent fan fiction because your ideas are not really based on reality. its very boring.
>American withdrawal = peace
not really at all because iran wants the levant for tehmselves, and no withdrawal brings that. it sounds more like you personally want iranian victory and are trying to frame it that to resist iran makes one the aggressor, which is just ideology which doesnt really interest me at all.
>America fails militarily
which is not happening. irgc is barely holding onto existence to push sharia law inside iran, whiel usa is hosting world cup and people are having fun there. america is not experiencing the threat in this situation, while iran was forced to launch its war earlier than it wanted to.
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>>538621384
with 20:1 reprisals? doubt. they're not going to keep killing themselves for your entertainment forever, that's sunnoid behavior
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NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN IM HEARING SURENS
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>>538621472
>whiel usa is hosting world cup and people are having fun there.
Usa cheated (and still lost) btw, and priced everyone with scummy tickets sales
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NEW BREAD - day 132 of the 4 days swift regime change
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NEW BREAD - day 132 of the 4 days swift regime change
>>538621551
NEW BREAD - day 132 of the 4 days swift regime change
>>538621551
NEW BREAD - day 132 of the 4 days swift regime change
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NEW BREAD - day 132 of the 4 days swift regime change
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NEW BREAD - day 132 of the 4 days swift regime change
>>538621551
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Supreme leader here. I am so depressed. My new pussy stinks. I did shoot the surgeon who fucked this up and his dog. His fucking dog ate my mutilated dick that the Jews blew up with pops. Disgusting Jewish slime. Supreme leader. My new dresses are pretty though.
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>>538621556
youre just emotionally attached to this topic which is why everything yo uwrite comes off as quite effeminate.
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>>538621377
> It's valuable because people are willing to exchange goods for it. No more, no less.

And why is that?

> The land of most of the gulf states cannot support sheep herding. I'm pretty sure most of the so called "royalty" were just bandits.

I know this is a smug remark but the Bedouin tribes of the Arabian peninsula have been pastoralists and sheep herders for millennia. The ancestors of the sleighs of today did herd sheep as a livelihood and the land can support this lifestyle.

Of course. But the market wouldn't let them. Their shitty printed fiat currencies would fail faster than the dollar is failing right now. A lot faster. Zimbabwe faster.

Yeah sure buddy. They totally don’t have enormous export demand leverage to enforce such a scheme. Nigger if they had nukes and said we’re using their currency, best believe we’re using their currency. The alternative is supply collapse.

>It literally is a meme in the Dawkins sense, that doesn't mean it's not real, but it also doesn't mean it isn't retarded Keynesian nonsense. Sometimes reality is just fucking stupid. Israel exists after all, and it's a fucking dumb idea from stupid people which makes no sense.

Bro if it was a purely keynesian phenomenon America would have monopoly on trading currency. Thats the whole crux of this argument. It’s not retarded. It’s so important you’re refusing to back down from a retarded war to preserve it.
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>>538621587
twu im heccin angry grill >:3
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>>538621573
Anon please announce you are making it before posting so we don’t end up with two threads
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>>538621593
America wouldn’t have monopoly*
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>>538621527
بس للشيعة محجوز الطگ
https://youtube.com/shorts/ikF0w03UlTI?si=cL1Mhvt4_CLUAofk
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As Trump was preparing to depart the White House for Türkiye, Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth briefed him in the Oval Office on reports that Iran had launched cruise missiles and drones at commercial ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz, striking three vessels.

Trump questioned whether Tehran was still committed to reaching a final agreement and, after consulting with his senior national security advisers, concluded that it was not.

The meeting marked a turning point, prompting him to abandon the ceasefire framework and authorize new military strikes and renewed economic pressure on Iran.

Source: WSJ
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>>538621939
He needs jew advisors. Ahem, new advisors.
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>>538621551
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>>538621593
>And why is that?
Because it's a highly marketable good. That's a problem with fiat currency. The justification is recursive.
>I know this is a smug remark but the Bedouin tribes of the Arabian peninsula have been pastoralists and sheep herders for millennia. The ancestors of the sleighs of today did herd sheep as a livelihood and the land can support this lifestyle.
I know that there were pastoralists in the region, but I do remember reading about the pastoralist tribes engaging in what was effectively banditry prior to the bongs propping them up and creating European style "states" in those regions. Just because they did have sheep that were herded doesn't mean they were able to actually sustain themselves or even their sheep entirely on pastoralism.
>They totally don’t have enormous export demand leverage to enforce such a scheme.
Wouldn't make their currency worth shit if they acted like they currently do with their currencies.
>Nigger if they had nukes and said we’re using their currency, best believe we’re using their currency.
For the month or two before they had a crack up boom.
>The alternative is supply collapse.
Supply of what? Supply of oil? They'd print fuckloads of that currency to pay for gold plated hookers and then they'd try to fix the price of oil to their shitty currency to prop it up, but that price wouldn't reflect the market price. The gulfies have control of a lot of the world's oil, but they don't have a monopoly, and the various GCC countries can act independently, so you'd either have one of them secretly breaking the cartel to get ahead or you'd have the other producers undercutting them. So either this oil backed currency cartel would collapse or the supply would collapse.
>Bro if it was a purely keynesian phenomenon
Rothbard was absolutely right in saying that Marx's one saving grace is that he wasn't a fucking Keynesian. It's not a Keynesian phenomenon, but the monetarists aren't right either.



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