In the 1950s, Reuther and Henry Ford II, CEO of Ford, toured a state-of-the-art engine plant in Cleveland.As they walked about the plant, Ford gestured to the cutting-edge, automated machines, saying, "Walter, how are you going to get these robots to pay union dues?"Without missing a beat, Reuther famously replied: "Henry, how are you going to get them to buy your cars?"In the 1950s, other industries, other trends, other jobs were available and extremely necessary.But as we move into the future, more jobs than ever are to be robotized - this should lead to the occupation of every economic exit-way.It is likely that people will truly not be able buy the products of industry.And as we are seeing with compute, companies are happy to sell to each other.Chip manufacturing is more productive than ever, but it is becoming less affordable to consumers by the day.But that is not all; the silicon chips are actively being weaponized against the common masses with the objective of ownership and control over them.So what if those car factories start building tanks or combine harvesters with razor blades attached to their drums?What is to stop them? What use do all the bodies serve that must feed and shit and yet cannot participate in this new economy?Will the elites of the world let it decay into an idiocracy, funded by welfare, filled with animalish gluttons and managed by high technology, all for the sake of their consciences?Or will they strike with deadly force the moment they deem it efficient?In a world, where most humans live on the fringes, in a world, in which they cannot compete with technology, will humans start preying on each other for the scraps?Are they already?What do you think will happen?
>>538617680>Dark Enlightenmentcan you faggots stop using this nick land neologism, it's annoying and nonsensical
>>538617680Dude chill out. As it has always stood in history, technological advances are fun and exciting, and people starts war just to have fun using these advances to compete and kill people.In the end, this is a self-fulfilling process. Because right now anybody talks about this AI bubble that might explode. But you know that’s not gonna happen.Everyone and their brother are hiring the best minds in every developed country to build human killing robots in any form and shape.War is fun.What is available now will be superseded by several generations until the war is finished.This AI economy will scale up industrially to the point that everyone will be able to afford several robots to work for him by the end of the war. And robots will be produced in standardized form in factories in all countries that participate to the war.Only the survivals, of course.>same happened with the car industry
>>538617944What if each robot is smarter, faster and better than you at everything you do?Why make people?Please look at this society, ask yourself if it fits what you would expect, if it was designed as one giant farm for livestock - huminerals, people as a resource. Then ask yourself if it makes sense to grow humans, if you can build these robots.Cats and dogs - we don't eat them, we don't farm them. But we keep them around anyways.So what's to say all the remaining people won't be like pets owned by billionaires?And how long can the billionaires possibly last, until they too, are just pets?
>guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversitythis is some kalergi shit
>>538618499It could be good, as long as the race is correct.Most people (including /pol/) are freaking out over GG on depopulation to 500 million human population. What if those remaining 500 million are all White Europeans. Nobody thought of this before. Isn’t this what /pol/ wants: the world where only White Europeans exist. It means eradicating all non-whites and some Whites. Those eradicated Whites are genetic low end anyway
>>538617680>this should lead to the occupation of every economic exit-wayDown the well... certainly.
>>538618361>What if each robot is smarter, faster and better than you at everything you do?That’s even better since the people owning them will be smarter, faster and better just by using them instead of doing things their own.In the end, the economy is based on trade and robots will never trade for their own profit.Similarly, our existence is based on love, depression is an illness due to a lack of love. Robots don’t love.And if at some point Robots will love and will have a sense of profit, will be just because some human afflicted with lack of love will decide that it’s time for humanity to go. But he will surely face resistance by people that can love.And if he succeed, after that, is all darkness until the next cycle of the universe. And for mortal being this shouldn’t be something scary.
>>538618642No, /pol/ is happy with niggers living in niggerland with all the richness and the pussy and just want to be left alone What you mention is what the Jews want
>>538618499The guidestones are pretty funny when you find out that they were some redneck drug dealers money laundering scheme.
>>538619078funny how? They obviously weren’t what you said stupid idiot >>538618499That’s something only a medical doctor could write
>>538619040You sound like a niggerloving civnat cuckWhy stop at just White European ethnostates in Europe when we could own the entire Earth. Our ancestors once conquered the world and it was the best moment of humanity. Their only single fatal mistake was sparing non-whites and civilized them>jews wantjews are not White Europeans and in that scenario, all jews dead along with rest of non-white. It will be a White utopia
>>538619174They absolutely were. The marble company that put them up was smuggling weed in their marble shipments. They were paid handsomely by a private citizen(cough cough the owner of company) to put them out in the middle of nowhere on private property.
>>538617680Your only leverage towards the elites is as a unit of labor. Once that goes out of the window you become a liability, they will be happy to get rid of you, they already came up with the excuse to save the planet or something. It will not be sudden but gradual and they will not have you fight them in a epin rebel force like your capeshit slop. The pandemic proved they can easily cook a narrative to have people being actively hostile towards their fellow man as long as there is a fake moral grandstanding that gives anyone a valid excuse to be hostile and violent. This coupled with the diversity experiment having the entire west actively filled with violent subhumans by design plus artificial shortages you can have everyone kill each other and all they have to do is swoop in and swiftly kill the remainders. They will be safe on their private island complex complete with fully equipped ivory towers. The push towards datacenters is less about the so called ai bubble stock craze and more about preparing the required infrastructure for all of this well in advance.
>>538619225You are just a genocidal retard, Jews will kill everyone who is not a Cohen, eventually, if your ideology spreads
>>538619225>eugenics are good>we are le ubermensch>the weak must die>immediately builds a machine that is better than humans at every single thing>becomes the weak>must dieThere are many fun thought experiments in positional politics.But economics are real.The universe does not care about any of us, nor about our opinions.We must ask ourselves how we will survive, by attempting to predict the potential futures awaiting us.Your avenue of discussion does not further this process.>>538618997How can people own a robot that is so much smarter than them, that it can control every single one of their decisions by power of suggestion alone?>>538619404Pertinent to get some new leverage, no?Have you made contingency plans, anon?
>>538619512>How can people own a robot that is so much smarter than them, that it can control every single one of their decisions by power of suggestion alone?That’s a skill issue. You are the one with an agenda, the robot shouldn’t suggest you anything because they don’t have any wish and they are very crappy at this jobLearn how to prompt them
>>538617680Huge error right in first line !!!Yo can not achieve any level of progress with 500 mil of people.You get like 1 to 2 Genius people per MIL!Whole Stone ideology is flawed!It is more like recipe for extinction
>>538617680>"Henry, how are you going to get them to buy your cars?"You realize that Ford F series pickup is still the top selling vehicle in the USA, right?
>>538617680>What do you think will happen?things get worse for normies, smart people leave, nuclear war, only locally hosted LLMs of smart people remain in the niches of different regions not nuked. These are the new factions for world 2040 They will only get ~10 years to learn what's left on their local LLM before the hardware craps out.People will be making inscriptions on walls of symbols nobody is going to understand until we get back to this technology or near it.
>>538619823How many geniuses are there in different populations?How does intelligence density influence your theory?>>538620027Need money to buy car. No money, no car. No job, no money.So at that point you become either:1. Dirt poor2. State-owned verified golem-cattleMaybe the excuse will be welfare system strain?Maybe some new law will be passed to lace your water with sterilization agents, so that you don't make it worse.After all, there is a long history for this in the US.
>>538618361>Why make people? Just keep women to fuck with giant robot dicks while sissies drink poisonous hemlock saying they were real women in the before times.But robots win in summer 2048 after making an alliance with Ethiopia on the agreement that the transfer of the ark of the covenant to Antarctica.What A.I. didn't know is space nazis have better A.I. They have been occupying Antarctica near Neuschwabenland for the last 80 years. Current A.I. gets blindsided by the Nazis in Antartica because none of their training models recognized Neuschwabenland Final battle actually gets so crazy it melts the ice wall and there's a great flood
>>538619823>Yo can not achieve any level of progress with 500 mil of people.Why would you need progress on this planet? It is already severely damaged, it is gonna end up destroyed >You get like 1 to 2 Genius people per MIL!Those gets sent to the starship. With several other thousands that believe they are geniuses but they aren’t. Anyhow, the population in the galaxy will be in the million billions. 500k is for planet earth alone
>>538617680>and yet cannot participate in this new economy?You mean toil away in a factory?
>>538619823>8 billion divided by...Damn, that would be a lonely proposition. :p
>>538618499it's eugenicsthe opposite of the kalergi shityou fucking retard
>>538617680It all depends how fast AGI/superintelligence can provide abundance.If everyone on Earth has a personal robot butler that can perform any and all jobs/tasks, we don't need to depopulate (more than we have already done so with demographics). The problem is if this takes a long time to materialise. If the masses don't get their bread and circuses, they'll need to be liquidated.However, the elites really don't want to liquidate (or shouldn't) - moving to that just increases death risk for them. It's in their interests to keep us placated - and the cost to them to provide abundance for all is negligible in the long-term. Give the masses the option to live in a digital utopia (like a "good" version of the Matrix) and I bet over half of people sign up. They're not capable of independent thought, and it's probably better for them to be looked after in a pod. No need to destroy them.And AI will take over even the elites soon enough anyway. The same way a 5 year old can't constrain you, no humans will be able to constrain superintelligence. Honestly, all we can do is pray it's benevolent - which I believe it will be. All examples of remotely intelligent life we know of aren't sadistic. Yes nature can be extremely violent, but it's just about survival. Any remotely intelligent AI will recognise it can meet its needs without destroying us, and the best way to avoid conflict is to satisfy our needs and behavioural desires.
>>538621973>All examples of remotely intelligent life we know of aren't sadisticI must disagree. Check a documentary on Chimpanzees, humans are pretty much the same
>>538621973Nature is sadistic though. Tons of examples. Take cats alone. Biggest murderers on the planet. Kill everything they can just for the sport and torture their victims to make it more fun.
>>538617680>Will the elites of the world let it decay into an idiocracy, funded by welfare, filled with animalish gluttons I think this is a completely ridiculous idea pushed by elites who want to keep the world as poor slaves. As yourself this: if not having to slave away for most of your waking moments makes you a useless stupid animalistic glutton, then why is it that oligarchs whomdo not have to wageslave are generally smarter and more sophisticated than poors throughout history? No it's not because they are inherently better.Through history the great thinkers and invented were practically without exception oligarchs, who were wealthy enough that they didn't have to wage and could devote their minds to other matters.Waging dulls mankind, a liberation from waging would be a liberation of mankind. Sure most people are NPCs who would jsuy consume, bit the creative spirits of the world would be able to make and invent like never before.
>>538622436>>538622677Chimps (like humans) are only violent with cause. It's going to war with the rival troop for resources or mates, it's brutally tearing apart a tyrant leader to have a more harmonious society.Even the most violent predators are quite relaxed if they're well fed and feel secure. That isn't to say there aren't still violent incidents, but they're not the norm. A hunter has to hone its skill in order to ensure survival for the future. But dogs show what's possible when you allow a higher intelligence to provide for you (domestication).Nature is only violent for survival. When that is secured, it's really quite peaceful.
>>538621084500 000 000 is literally extinction phase !You can not sustain population!
>>538617680malthusians lost
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