Do you think Taiwan can win a war of attrition against China? Unlike those who like to compare Taiwan to Ukraine, the reality is quite different. Geographically, they are isolated by the sea. Economically, they are heavily reliant on others and dependent on a fragile, high-tech economy that is vulnerable to attack. Most importantly, as a first-world society, I doubt they have the stubborn will to endure a protracted war like the Ukrainians.
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>>538618067>can Amerimutts balkanize and continue terrorize Chinanot at your current pace tyrone
>>538618067if Taiwan was fighting alone then they would lose to China. But since Taiwan will probably have nato support, I don't think China can succeed.
>>538619025I mean being realistic neither US or NATO would want to go to direct war with china knowing that would be a full scale nuclear war. You might tell the south china sea part and their semiconductor industry is important. But the truth is its not worth the price and they can just poach all the engineers and technicians to their own tsmc fab. What they can do is send weapons and supply but that's where the naval blockade comes in.
Nope. Not a chance
>>538618067If China doesn't go full nuke right from the start, China can only get a pyrrhiic victory. No resources worth of note will remain intact in Taiwan, massive destruction of Chinese navy and unlike Ukraine Taiwan starts with intermediate range missiles so massive economic damage inside China too.Just throwing a nuke and demanding immediate surrender is the only war which makes sense for China.
>>538618067No. What i want is Taiwan to endure as long as possible inflicting massive damage & casualties on ch*na to the point they collapse and unable to threaten US, Europe, Japan and the rest of the first world
>>538618067How can an isolated Island win an attritional war against an industrial power only 100 miles off its coast.Even if the entire world stands by Taiwan, there is no way any of your supplies will get past the 2000km ranged cordon made of hypersonic missiles and naval mines.Taiwan will either surrender directly, or chimp out a little bit, do some minor damage and then be turned into Gaza.We don't really care about TSMC or Taiwan's Industries. We just want a flattened and depopulated airstrip that allows us to expand into the Pacific.
>>538618067The western model of infinite wars to brrr print fiat money out of thin air is collapsing. Taiwan voluntary will join China to heal from USrael kike parasites
China will grow larger
>>538618067The Chinese navy can simply starve them out, Taiwan can't survive without food imports. A Blockade on sea and air is all they have to do it's not like Ukraine where we have land connection and give them everything they need to survive.>Muuh drones Their navy doesn't have to be close to Taiwan to stop incoming ships and airplanes.Anyway the Chinese are not warmongering retards like the Americans are, Taiwan will peacefully reunite with China in the coming decades.
>>538621965>Taiwan voluntary will join China to heal from USrael kike parasitesNo it will not. Taiwanese people don’t want to be part of China.
>>538622138>Taiwan will peacefully reunite with China in the coming decades.Based on what exactly? Wishful thinking?
>>538619025NATO doesn't gives a shit about Taiwan that's entirely an American thing but the USA already said they can't compete with the Chinese military industry so their current tactic is peaceful appeasement and co-operation, they won't fight for them, worst corea said the same, only Australia and Japan are impotently yapping at China.
>>538622169If this is working so well, the DPP wouldn't have to ban Chinese drama, video games like Wukong and apps like RedNote.The vast majority of Taiwan knows that they are literally Chinese in culture, language and habits.
There is not going to be a war over Taiwan. At least it is highly unlikely to happen. A conflict like that assuming the US will get involved even indirectly would mean a collapse of much of economic ties between China and the US, which would be next to impossible to sustain. Not to mention that with an increasingly jingoistic Japan it could involve them one way or another, which threatens to turn the war nuclear quite fast. Nobody would benefit from a catastrophe of such magnitude. Not to mention, Taiwan itself is slowly becoming less and less important to the US and, as China's navy expands, less defensible as well. Eventually Beijing and Washington will likely strike some kind of deal where China is given a green light to absorb Taiwan peacefully. Taiwanese may not like it at first, but should US and China reach such an agreement, Taiwan’s own authorities will gradually prepare their population for imminent integration and explain to them why this may actually be a good thing in a highly unstable global environment. They may have some protests there at first, but they will die out with time and careful handling just like those in Hong Kong did. Full integration will take a few decades, but eventually it will be done.
>>538621965Ah yes it's EU and USA with endless printing and not your shithole puccia and China Ziggers delusional like usual.
>>538622235Bavaria is part of Germany too but they feel only as Bavarians..... Taiwan can feel Taiwanese as much as they want but China is only growing and growing and in a few decades when China is richer than them they want to be in the winner side.
>>538618067Are Westerners retarded? Where do you think the Food and Water feeding Taiwan comes from?It's funny how the countries who hate China like Japan and Flipland are the ones depending on them the most.
>>538622468>Taiwan’s own authorities will gradually prepare their population for imminent integration and explain to them why this may actually be a good thing in a highly unstable global environment. They may have some protests there at first, but they will die out with time and careful handling just like those in Hong Kong did. Full integration will take a few decades, but eventually it will be done.It’s difficult to overstate how stupid this is. It’s actually significantly dumber than suggesting that Zelensky and co are about to begin preparing the population of Ukraine for full integration into the Russian Federation as a Russian Republic.
>>538618067>war of attritionNo, of course not. Taiwan has about 1/40th the population of China.Can they hold off a Chinese invasion? Sure, as long as the KMT doesn't sabotage their defenses.
>>538622966The Chinese could send so many soldiers that they could create a land bridge to Taiwan with death Chinese soldiers.
>>538622776Taiwan is being "steered away from China" only as long as it has the backing of US military and knows China is not likely to try anything stupid with it. Once US support is gone, Taiwan's government will do a 180 turn, since there is no way they could resist China alone, even with Japan being loud from time to time. With peaceful reunification remaining the only real choice, Taiwan's own government will start the process of explaining to their population why it will happen and why it’s a net benefit for the people. It may take a long time, but China can wait, there is no rush. They waited for a century to have Hong Kong and Macau back; they can wait an extra decade or two to have Taiwan back too.
>>538622468>absorb Taiwan peacefullySort of like how your Pooty-Poo Putin sent his troops into Ukraine with their band uniforms and musical instruments so that they'd be prepared for the victory parade as soon as they got to Kyiv?
>>538623010I'm guessing you've never seen any depth charts for the Taiwan Strait.
>>538623088It would need around 20 billion bodies, we can do this. Send all Africans and Indians first.
>>538622695>China is richer than them they want to be in the winner side.Like most westerns you don’t even bother to spend 5 minutes reading about the history of the place you are commenting on.Taiwanese people lived for 40 years under a brutal military dictatorship. They fought for four decades against the Chinese military regime in Taipei to finally create an actual country with freedom, democracy, human rights and the right to assert their own identity. Tens of thousands of Taiwanese paid for this with their lives. They are not going to voluntarily give up their freedom and identity for no reason. It’s like saying Americans will just voluntarily decide to rejoin the UK and give up being American.
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>>538623282Not an actual country.Never will be
>>538622695>China is only growing and growing and in a few decades when China is richer than them they want to be in the winner side.Taiwan is roughly 10X richer per capita than China, Anon. It's going to be a while before the Chinsects catch up.
>>538623282Those "Taiwanese" aren't even Taiwanese even the japsoids were longer there present than the Chinese who fleed there after losing the civil war.Many believed east and west Germany could never reunite again too but it still happened.So far China is rising and we will see in a few decades how Taiwanese feel then. It's sad that actual indigenous Taiwanese are pretty much genocided by chinks at this point.
>>538623556Taiwanese people arrived in Taiwan from Southern China during the Ming and Qing Dynasty.Before the Japanese. Before the ChineseCivil War. Before either communism or nationalism existed. Like I said. You did not do even a mere 5 minutes of research.
>>538619025It would be a fucking bloodbath regardless even if China convinced everyone else to not join.There's only 4 landing zones in the entire country, all heavily fortified and surrounded by mountains, the Taiwanese are dug in because there's no where else to land troops. The Chinese would lose hundreds of thousands of troops, get the shit blasted out of them with Taiwanese missiles and lose a lot of izzat before they took control of Taipei.And they'll just blow up TSMC before they get anywhere near it if the burgers don't do it for them first.
>>538618067China is Taiwan and Taiwan is China. No temporary political arrangement will ever change that. It's like saying Austria is a real country, a totally ridiculous proposition, but a de jure condition of the world. That's just Germany. There is no war of attrition. When the west faces some predicament domestically that results in them providing less advantage, politicians in Taiwan will willingly join China. It's inevitable. No war necessary. Inevitable.
>>538623556>reee no true scotsmanCry harder you little bitch
>>538623804>doesn't understand NTS fallacy lol, go back to teaching maths you fucking insect nigger brained retard. leave logic to us
>>538623794It’s more absurd than saying Americans will voluntarily give up being American and rejoin the UK.Taiwanese do not want it. There is no possible way it can be done voluntarily. None. Impossible. The only way it can happen is through force.
>>538618067https://strawpoll.com/GPgVYGX08na
>>538623556>Many believed east and west Germany could never reunite again too but it still happened.Also it’s literally nothing like East and West Germany reuniting. There are basically zero points of commonality there. Everyone in both Germanies considered themselves German. The difference was mainly different political systems imposed on them. Maybe there were regional differences too but there was a still a shared common German identity.People in Taiwan don’t want to be Chinese. It’s more like Germany forcing Austria to join Germany or Russia forcing Ukrainians to become Russian or Japan annexing Korea and forcing Koreans to become Japanese.
We will find out! I think China won't bite there much... they will go for the jagular if isolated and squeezed resources wise.If China goes for taiwan openly, it's a deal with US and Russia. That means each side will grt something they wantz elsewhere even if it's kinetic it will be controlled.
>>538625120China is as big as Europe or the USA, local ethnicities are protected nowadays and their culture accepted except the mudslime niggers rightfully of course.They can still be Taiwanese while being part of china. China thinking everyone is Han is the same as everyone in Germany is German while we're just a union of different Germanic tribes and even germanised West slavs from the middle ages in the east and in the south ancient celts but still all German at the end.
>>538625324Yes. Chinese and German are similar in that they are somewhat artificial national identities created to unite a large group of different tribes into one nation based on a relatively broad commonality. That’s perfectly fine if the majority of people involved in it believe in this shared national identity. The point is that most Taiwanese do not wish to be part of this. Same as how not all Germanic people want to be part of Germany or consider themselves German. I’m not sure why this is so difficult to understand.
>>538623763Wishful thinking, Japcuck. Chinks would encircle the island and mutts couldn't do shit because attacking Chink ships would put them in direct conflict.It's not like Ukraine where they can get constant supplies of fresh weapons because Ruskies can't attack shipments until they enter the country.
>>538623763>fucking bloodbathNot in the way you think Jap.The weak side will be missile bombarded to hell.Your Taicuck relatives will be living in bunkers for 70 years without electricity, enjoying rotten dry-bisscuits every day for 70 years until they cease to exist.
