This October we have the opportunity to generate the biggest happening in Canadian history if we vote yes to initiate the process of leaving Canada. Through their tentacles such as communist labor unions, mainstream media and NGOs, federalist elites are currently firing everything they've got at the movement.I ask you this: If it would never happen, why are the elites publicly denouncing it so hard? They're scared. They're scared like any oligarchy or dictatorship at losing control. That's how we know we're winning, and now's the time to push harder to succeed in October.GOD BLESS ALBERTA!
>>538641708>we'll see civil wars in the west in our lifetimeWild timeline.Godspeed lads. Vote for freedom, prepare for violence.
>>538642000Their constitution allow for peaceful secession, thoughbeit.
>>538641708Feds will lose access to not only bc but the territories if alberta decides to dip, this shit would definitely start a civil war which is why carney is mass recruiting jeets into the military
>>538641708Why do Canucks pretend they're cowboys?
>>538643111Not unilaterally.
>>538643149we have literal actual working cowboys in Alberta complete with cattle rustlers and a rodeo circuit
>>538641708Sorry bud, you're here forever
If the frogs in Quebec couldn't do it, Alberta sure as fuck won't
>>538643125If the vote goes for secession BC will join the US before Alberta leaves Canada to get the best deal, because the writing is on the wall.
>>538644218The frogs suck up money, Alberta pays money. They won't deny this, they'll just say they're clever for doing so,
>>538644298the quizzat
>>538641708the retarded faggot movementall of you should kill yourselves
>>538641708Do they pay you in usd or rubles?Do you go to synagogue every Saturday?
>>538644088larp
>>538644517they aren't larping man that whole way of life is lived here
>>538644581Ok pajeet
>>538643111>Their constitution allow for peaceful secession, thoughbeit.Just like it allows for peaceful protest, until it doesn't. No way they'll let their cash cow go peacefully.
>>538641708You guys do realize if your ruso-migger funded LARP secession were to actually happen you'd be annexed by USA immediately and as non citizens on us soil you'd be disappeared to the labor camps right? Right?
>>538641708The vote is only a buffer to prolong an actual binding one from ever taking place, this deal with made with the feds behind the scenes. The Outcome is irreverent because the NDP will be taking power and legislation will be introduced blocking future attempts. 4 years from then the UCP will pop back up with a new leader, running on another freedom platform after the NDP destroy the province further. Cycle repeats until you die.
Alberta is wild. Nothing like a visit to beaverlodge to grab some beef jerky as you head to the rodeo. But then you head to Brooks and see all the Somalians working in the slaughterhouses, imported in and given gibs as they chain migrate “I am the captain now” types. Place is whack. The Canadian government treats the prairie provinces like a mining colony on the moon. Weird to see a bunch of Haitian dudes eating breakfast at the hotel before they head to work in the oil fields or go into Walmart and see only Indians and Somalians…took my daughter to the park in brooks and these Somalian kids ran up to her and they all began to touch her blond, flaxen hair. Albertan independence is pointless if it doesn’t expunge from its borders the recent Trudeau immigrants.
>useful idiot - noun>a naive or credulous person who can be manipulated or exploited to advance a cause or political agenda>astroturfing - noun>organized activity that is intended to create a false impression of a widespread, spontaneously arising, grassroots movement in support of or in opposition to something (such as a political policy) but that is in reality initiated and controlled by a concealed group or organization (such as a corporationWhat you are witnessing is not grassroots support for Alberta separatism, but rather targeted influence operations ran against Canada by a coalition of Russian and American discord groups. While there is a small minority of Albertans who espouse separatist beliefs, it remains an extremist, fringe position put forth by the lowest educated rural voters. These people are being manipulated and riled up by sophisticated operations designed to demoralize Canadians and Albertans and divide us against each other so we can be devoured by the behemoth to our south.Make no mistake: there would be no statehood in our future, no cordial relations for us as a landlocked third country in the middle of two nations. We would be an American territory like Puerto Rico within the year (see how long they've been waiting for statehood). You and everyone you know would lose: your health care, your pension, and all the other benefits that accrue from being part of a community of provinces. You and everyone you know would have their quality of life decrease, drastically.Do not delude yourself. When twitter/x briefly showed the true locations of separatist agitators, they were Russian. Wake up.
>>538645058Bro Alberta is simple farmers. You know, morons. It was too late from the start
>>538645058I’d say who cares, let them fafo when Glencore and BP continue siphoning all their mining and oil money to London if not outright seizing the subsurface rights for the uk commonwealth. on the other hand I don’t want a bunch of retarded hicks with even goofier accents than normal hicks becoming part of my country.
>>538643149>>538644517>>538644651Sit down, incel. Adults are talking.
>>538643149>>538644517>>538644651
Israel's first colony?
>>538644949It amazes me that Canadians can winge about the corruption of our government and the deeply flawed parliamentary system we have, and yet every solution proffered, which there aren't very many of, is rejected by chuds here as either ineffectual or some kind of deep psyop "pressure valve" or "distraction.The mainline attitude on this board seems to be defeatist in the extreme. I will never adopt a defeatist mindset. Such a mindset is exactly the reason nothing changes and the cycle of winging continues.
>>538646921> I will never adopt a defeatist mindsetYou already have. Isn't it interesting the "closer" you get to freedom the more freedoms you lose? We were supposed to be voting for independence, now we're voting for approval on our original goal. In 2027 we'll be voting to go back to square 1, when the UCP loses we'll be voting in 2031 to be worse off than we were in 2026. You guys are so deeply complacent it is sickening.
>>538645058Absolutely false. Notice the bot never offers any evidence for their insane assertions. The theory that Alberta Independence is being sponsored by Russian & American interests first appeared on twitter from Canadian left wing bot accounts. I believe some far-left rag news sites also had a few opinion pieces on it. So far there has never been even 1 document offered to prove it.Let's assume that was true for the moment. Don't you think RCMP would be investigating and making announcements or arrests by now? The fact that they haven't means there's nothing. The liberal government would like nothing more than to throw independence leaders in jail.
>>538647192I get what you're saying but there's no alternative.
>>538641708You need to start voting with shot guns you stupid fagots or this is who is going to replace you
>>538647346Stop playing into their dialectics. It would take things the average Canadian is incapable of to ever achieve independence. It's a waste of time and they're laughing at you. When you figure out what you should have done instead you will no longer be physically capable and the country will be gone. Seriously how many times do you need to be humiliated to stop playing?
>>538647726if it's a waste of time all this histrionic screeching wouldn't be needed.
>>538648300the only thing they fear is the democratic process.
>>538647266Not a bot, I actually live here and have an education. kys
>>538641708Good luck, but my official stance is: you won’t do shit, niggers
>>538648589Oh really? Ironic! Begone!
>>538648685>"has an education">doesn't know healthcare is provincial>doesn't know the pension can be collected anywhere in the world>doesn't really know anything at all
>>538648764they're doing everything they can to stop it.
>>538649061In what way? It was never approved for the referendum, it was never happening. You keep asking for permission and taking concessions while they laugh at you.
>>538648859>heathcare is provincialthat doesn't mean it isn't heavily subsidized by the federal governmentthat doesn't mean it isn't enabled by us being a union of provinces that can negotiate with healthcare providers and pharmaceutical companies as a groupthat doesn't mean it isn't enabled by the federal government handling other aspects of our budget to free up money for provincial matters>pension can be collected anywherethis is irrelevant, and we wouldn't get even close to what you halfwits think we wouldand why would mouthbreathers like you even think its a good thing for our province to send money to people who don't live here and give back to our economy?pure bad faith retardationmeanwhile you haven't considered:>transportation>being a landlocked retard state>this being nothing more than a precursor for a US takeover where we'd have all our wealth generating industries taken over in short order>we'd be hated on all sides>treated like second class citizens, and we'd get the vote around the same time as puerto rico>all the wealthiest and most educated citizens would leave immediatelyretards like you think we'd end up as texas north, when really we'd be oklahomai don't know whether you double digit IQ fuckwits are actual albertan useful idiots, or whether you're the shills trying to fuck up our country, but genuinely kys, your lives are worthless
>>538648685Ok, does your education provide evidence? No?Shut the fuck up then. You sound like a delusional Ukranian that should be on the front lines getting gibbed by Ork artillery.
>>538643149Because parts of Canada have actual cowboys. It’s basically Montana and Colorado.
>>538649236judicial block of the APP petition. that was overturned but not before smith could add the referendum for the referendum question to the october 19 ballot. if they didn't fear a vote they would have simply let it proceed and then be voted down. and, if they were confident in themselves, this is what would have happened; but they fear the vote like a vampire fears the true cross and this resultant circus is proof of that fact.
>>538641708I am actually curious what the Alberta secessionists want? Do you wish to create your own state? Become like Quebec? Join the Union?
>>538641708Unless people are shooting each other i dont give a single absolute fuck about going through the motions or peddling legislation to defunct fucjing occupiers and their useful idiotsJoining the usa to get paid in USD would shut up eceryonr after 3 months of reciving wages that are only partially garnished rsther than fully with the worthlessness that is the canadian dollar and faggot nigger taxes plaguing us in addition to infitijeetificationNo, unless something is geting exploded and shot with bandoliers of gunmen, i simply dont give a fuck about your gay little surrogate activities, im not paying attention unless people are dying and the governmwnt is executing cope tier martial law in a panicYou will achieve NOTHING short of failurr and diminishing returns with endless faggotry and bereaucratic limitations of episteimologyYou want change?Force a crisisOne which will regardless be subverted by masonic deadweights at the beginning as much as the end anywaysYall wont do shit, and i dont give a singular fuck>t. Prairie boyPay us in USD and suddenly all our problems disappearAchievably in under 4 to 5 months of reform and integration into the unionOr spend another 4 years debating this impotent InDePenDenCE faggotry that gets nowheres unless PEEPOO DIEalso goodluck bow that we are what, 40% whites?LolLmfao
>>538643111You get actualized results with blood and iron, but unfortunately all wars are banker wars, no use putting hope in absolutely diminished impotent returns of pure hopiumThis shit is 70 years too late nigga
>>538643149Alberts is basically God's country for raising cattle you foolish pleb
>>538645058Holy shit youre genuinely retardedAnd no, independence movements have existed in this province as a national pasttime surrogate activity since before the 80s you stupid fucking nigger
>>538645837Precisely why this will never work: nobody willing to risk spilling the blood of oil barons and their infrastructure: nuch less the DIVERSITY issue of attempting to rally thirdies into a loose confederacy under the pretext of civic nationalism- for albertaism, or whatever the fuck all that entails lmfaoBest bet rn is an insurgency with natives modelled after iraq and syria, but most competent natives are bought and sold for with bribes- very few have fundamental principals save that which they present to the public for face value and just collect gibsEveryones a singleminded sellout faggot here: either to the beast of a various arrayment of faggot ass surrogate activitiesWhen does the shooting start?It wontBecause we die with a whimper not a bang, and on and on it fucking goesCurse this countryCurse this province
>>538646921Aim some cannons at parliament vs vote with penstrokes at some mindless carrot on the stick delusionOne worksOne kills peopleOne actively puts you into the watchlist persona non grata. Get your bank accounts frozen for just mentioning the ideaIf people want actual change, they need to be forced into stavation and desparation firstEcerything besides getting to that point initially will be cucked out of any motivation or pretenses thereof maintained up until that point: see truckers and how quickly that flopped with the ukraine war, fucking nonstop NIGGGGGGEEEERS
>>538649460And nobody raised a finger to it lol. All of the campaigning and signature collection disregarded completely. This is what happens when you play by the rules. You are further away from the vote than before, you are actively moving in reverse and applauding it.
BC anon here. I genuinely don't know what Albertan Seperatists are thinking. I mean I agree with them 100% that we're effectively unrepresented politically and bankroll the rest of the country. Where they lose me is in thinking they can resolve their non-existent political representation with voting. Why do they think they're going to vote to leave Canada and Carney is going to get the memo and say "Damn! Those bratty tax cattle VOOTED to leave! I have no choice but to acceptthe countries economic spine being torn out!"? Even if they actually get to have the referendum, even if it's completely legal to just up and leave, even if they won by some outrageous margin like 90% in favour; Toronto is just going to pull out some horse shit about muh chug treaties to block it. Hell they don't even have to go that far, Carney could just do a press release where he verbatim says "fuck you chuds, you're tax cattle and you'll learn to like it". What's the worst that'll happen? Alberta will voot harder?
>>538649295Becomming part of the union is the only realistic and peacable solution but obviously isnt without its own set of problems, namely exploitation by globohomo corposBut guaranteed once every albertan gets a buccees and a USD fewer taxed paycheques in their pocket, theyll stop all complaints within 3 to 5 months of steady USD in their bank accountsAnd for some if not most: this will be the most amount of money theyve ever earned in their lives: including but not limited to the middle upper classes especially and the poorest wage earnersAmerican taxes on capital gains and corporwtion tax codes is a fucking nightmare though; at least canadian CRA fuckheads simplify the filing process and all that can be nitpicked apartUnlike america where paying the least amount of taxes requires knowing a billion different contradicting citations ffsMight vary from state to state, maybe trump ecobomica reformed some of this shit, idk was over a decade ago last i had to check it out
>>538641708It's not going to happen. But since the "conservative" city of Calgary had Nenshi as Mayor for years does anyone even think the Alberta nation would be anything great?
>>538650277Well I don’t know how your government works, but if they decide to leave, vote on it, and then are told no by your leader, he will effectively be subverting the system and rejecting the results of a referendum. Which would be grounds for resurrection. But I doubt that will happen. >horse shit about muh chug treaties to block itWhy not just do that now? I mean if it is something that would block actual secession why not just show it exists now to attempt to hamper the referendum?
>>538647726So defeatist.
>>538650402Honestly I would be happy to see Canada annexed, but at the moment it ain’t good. We have our own bullshit to deal with mainly getting rid of the zionist stooges and globohomo kikes. But once we figure that out and unfuck things yeah you guys are in. Though depending on the province statehood may not be immediate since the rogue element needs to be removed.
>>538650627And picrel is you right? Lmao. Keep voting loser.
>>538650507Native treaties are brokered with the crown of england for their land grantsThat obviously changes with a new sherrif in town, but could go more ways than oneLikely the natives will be drip and nurtured into dependency and compliance within the status-quo of the hand that fucking feeds- but then again who else could see that coming from miles away and still hit the bullseye, must be a political analyst geniusIf natives actually gave a shit about enforcing their will to live and by defaukt self determination: we would be back at scalping people for intinidation rather than pocketing all the subsidies via chiefs and their swiss banking accountsNatives will fuck thenselves over rather than help each other, if but to have more feathers on the heqddress sense of vanity / new escalade for the chiefTheyre so corrupt it puts actual indian within the British Raj lackeys to shame
>>538650637At best, doing it now wouls be like kicking the can down the road for 3 yeara of transitionibg and restruxturing everything until all the former problems or new ones accordingly catch up to the changesCan only delay the inevitwble for so long, entire worlds cooked budTats why i dont gice a fuck and dont pay attention and am dismissive to all these convoluted larps- unless people are getting shot for being responsible for these conditions nothing will actuaoly change in any noticable fashion or with any significanceOnwards to the technocratic police state while we wait for the next kosher thinktank distraction within the wonderful masonic world order of shitheads and their appointed useful idiots
>>538650808>>538650982Damn, you guys actually give a shit about those treaties?>Tats why i dont gice a fuck and dont pay attention and am dismissive to all these convoluted larps- unless people are getting shot for being responsibleSmart, it’s all talk until shit actually goes down, which never happens.
>>538651119All i was saying was is as far as these stroke of the pen agreements with the crown go: no canadia and her taxes = no gibsSimple as that for convincing the natives who have their own set of corruption issues and lack of recourse altogetherNative reserves as some of the most corrupt and destitute places in this countryNo running waterNo electricity Some places have thirdie infrastructurr and the duty of care relegated to corruot cheifs who just pocket the money regardless creates an interdependency of more gibs to solve problems which never go away or only grt half assed with half the funds and make matters worseLike any government entity: it only exists to justify itself, like cancer, job never gets done and they always demand more for the same results
>>538651316That doesn’t sound too different from the reservations here honestly.
>>538641708You dumb boomer rural rednecks won’t even get 25% support. But it has been hilarious to see a weak female leader like Smith suck your cocks so hard for support, and endlessly flip-flop, because of her (conservative) corruption and incompetence
>>538641708you'd be owned by big oil and they would continue to cuck you hard. constant growth economy is not your friend as it means constant immigration, but you're too stupid to realize that, aren't you?
>>538641708Donetsk People's Republic
BLOCKS YOUR WAY, EH?
>>538645058This. And let's be honest - the separation movement has its roots in racism, homophobia, transphobia, and misogyny. These Irano-Russo-China-Hezbollah-funded nazi CHUDS need to be dealt with.
>>538650507I don't know if chug treaties would matter, the point I was trying to make is that our political system is such that they don't even need to make up an excuse. They just have to keep the urbanite reddit elementals in toronto and manitoba happy. They don't give two shakes of a dog's dick about the "sanctity of democracy" if it means having to accept a vote they don't like. If it helps you to wrap your head around it, imagine if you had no electoral college and as a result the only politically relevant states became California and New York (or to be more accurate the high pop centers there). Albertan's basically playing a game whose first rule is "you lose".
>>538649586they have no plans and never have, they just like pretending it's really happening this time like the french faggots. they always claim bc will follow them for some reason too
>>538653675Sounds like the only solution is violence
>>538644700Get your shit together, Quebec
I think the best angle to get the referendum to pass is to point out that this isnt a seperation question, this is a question about the fundamental nature of our government.Do you wish to live under the Canadian government, forever and ever, regardless of what bad decisions it makes? Or do you believe that the people of Alberta should have the RIGHT to reassess the relationship?Im not from alberta. I probably wouldnt vote yes on seperation, but I sure as shit will vote yes on a question about if that is ever possible.
>>538644700there's no way ontario is giving that much. they're just as bad as the french
>>538641708>votelolgood luck and Godspeed
>>538645058You are terribly wrong. Rural Alberta supports separating. Also the rural folk have daily conversation about the genocide of Europeans and the ongoing attack on the west. The east is trying to make this about pipelines.. we in Alberta are well aware the federal controlled government just tried to genocide us and will continue to do so.
>>538652565You are literally a filthy communist . Your opinion doesn't matter.
>>538654069BC would have to. Also BC is a net contributor and gets nothing staying in this shithole being abused by faggots in Ottawa, Montreal, and Toronto. Fuck the east.
>>538650277Then they go "hey America, recognize us for oil" and they do, and Carney has jack shit he can do about it.
>>538652157Smith is a stop gap that barely was able to contain civil war .. her time is coming to an end. She has shown her true colors shilling federalism.
canada is perhaps the biggest fuck up in the western world
>>538641708Shut the fuck up niggers nobody gives a penguin's turd about you. Go fuck off.
i wonder if canada recognizing palestine correlates to ramp up in the seperatist movement
>>538641708with music care of Gordon Lightfoot:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV1rtBnCeiw
