>Catholics will genuinely stare you dead straight in the eyes and tell you this isn't worship of Mary, but merely just "veneration" or "adoration" and that there's totally a clearly distinction between those termsNigga you people built literal golden shrines to her then bow down to statues of her then have places with traditions which teach kids to bring over flowers that they place at the feet of a statue of Mary, after which they put a golden crown on her and being with carry than thing around as if on a parade while singing praises and worship songs to her.At WHAT point does God in general, whether Jesus, The Father or The Holy Spirit come into the picture here. How does any of this practice whatsoever glorify God when it clearly does nothing but specifically glorify Mary and make her the focal point and center of the entire proceeding rather than God directly?
>>538665765Don't care.Ban usury.
>>538665765we do not worship mary, we ask her to pray for us, as we are told to do >"Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective."-James 5:16and yes, the saints are alive in heaven>"Jesus answered him, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise.”"- Luke 23:43where they pray to god>"When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God and the testimony they had maintained. They called out in a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” Then each of them was given a white robe, and they were told to wait a little longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers and sisters, were killed just as they had been."- Revelation 6:9-11
>>538665765Very disgusting and satanic.
>>538665765Because the second council of Nicaea taught that images of angles Jesus and saints are allowed to have and respect without worship. So of course there are going to be images of Christ, Mary, apostles angles..etc and people are going to respect the images with proper ways even in processions which are outward expressions of the religion. It isn’t just Mary that this is done to. It honors God by honoring the figures who cooperated with him the most, Mary is just recognized as the more important human figure in church history.
>>538666040>we do not worship maryBro... They literally give her the golden calf treatment.If you really want intercession, you should ask people that are ALIVE today on EARTH to pray for you, not the people who are alive in Heaven but dead to the world.But Christ Himself is already your main intercessor that you should rely on at all times since he's your direct hotline to the Father, no questions asked. What is the point of you attempting to find some other way around it in order to not "bother" Jesus or whatever you've been told about it, when He wants you to actually go and talk DIRECTLY to Him directly since through Christ your prayers directly reach The Father?>"Consequently, he is able to save to the uttermost those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. (Hebrews 7:25)"Like, genuinely why do you desire or think you need any other intercessor when you're invited to speak to The Father directly through Jesus Christ?Is your relationship with God going to grow stronger if you only ever rely on others to pray for or talk on your behalf with God instead of doing so yourself?Are you yourself more inclined to grow in bond with someone that directly interacts with your or with someone that only ever interacts with you based on proxies, so you never actually see the person nor hear them or get to interact with or spend any time with them other than through third parties than are meant to "represent" them but is not truly the?
>>538666040please investigate scripture for yourself regarding communicating with the dead.Deuteronomy 18:11: Explicitly condemns those who use "familiar spirits," consult with the dead, or act as a "necromancer".Leviticus 19:31: Commands against turning to mediums or wizards to avoid defilement.Isaiah 8:19: Asks the people why they seek the dead on behalf of the living instead of inquiring of their God.Jesus Christ, through His death, has removed the barriers between God and man, and now we may approach Him with confidence and boldness (Hebrews 4:14-16)there's more scripture about it as well. i argued against it and did not want to look it up when i was informed but i found it to be correct. better to follow the Word of God than any tradition of man.
Are you retarded? They are called 'icons', they are not idols. And it is 'veneration', not worship.Everyone knows when you give it a new name, it becomes a different thing.
>>538665765Who would've thought that a myth intentionally created by the enemy to pacify and conquer would be matriarchal and worship the dumber of the two sexes?
>>538666601It's eerily similar to how Jews know they're not supposed not allowed to practice sorcery, so they just name it something else and that means it's now okay for them to do, engage with and delve as deeply as they want in the practice.
>>538666626Do you know why jews call Jesus “Yeshu”? Look it up. It isn’t because they “control” Christianity.
Jesus/God is in the centre of that pic kek
>>538665765These posts are cool cause they just end up spreading the Word further lol.
>>538666769>if you squint hard enough to can make Jesus as a baby there which just blends completely into the statue of Mary and cannot even be perceived at a distance that isn't just you standing right in front of the statueWhat's the point in you having to jump through all these hoops to excuse this idolatry?That entire set piece was clearly built around to focus primarily on Mary instead of Jesus and you can see that on the very first place how everything is framed in such a way that she is the first thing you see, not Jesus, who just blends together into her body and just looks like a piece of her garment or torso,
>>538665765HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>538666859Speak for yourself. I see OP's post and I'm immediately suspicious of his Iconoclastic tendencies. The last thing we need is modern Christians to go full wahabi dumbfuck tier image destroyer and start demolishing monuments and ancient ruins for fear that someone might accidentally worship them.
>>538665765>Catholics will genuinely stare you dead straight in the eyes and tell youthat the source and summit of Christian life is receiving Jesus Christ in the Eucharist. This is worship. Everything else is secondary.
>>538666978I dunno I checked on google and quite a lot of the angles jesus is pretty obvious there, though it seems like they change the clothes and paint job sometimes so maybe that helps
>>538667085do you ever take a minute to think of all the contemporaries of Jesus that you have to also deny the existence of or just call them liars? >> The Trial of Jesus' Relatives: The 4th-century church historian Eusebius preserves writings from Hegesippus, who documented that the Emperor Domitian (reigning 81–96 CE) sought to eliminate all remaining descendants of King David. Roman officials brought the grandsons of Jesus' brother Judas before the Emperor. Domitian questioned them about their relation to the Messiah and their wealth. When they showed him their hands—revealing they were poor farmers rather than wealthy revolutionaries—the Emperor dismissed them
>>538665765Protestants don’t worship at all since it’s all symbolic They don’t know anything besides veneration.
>>538665765>At WHAT point does God in general, whether Jesus, The Father or The Holy Spirit come into the picture here.Literally in the foreground of your picture.
>>538667282Im annoyed hesus showed himself to retards 2k years ago but not to anyone else. Be nice to say hello and have a brew with an immortal son of God.
>>538667548>God is relegated to the foreground while the entire procession focuses around worshipping Mary, singing praises to her and praying to her instead of God.Thanks for proving my point.You cannot genuinely say or believe anyone who goes there and prays is actually focusing on Jesus when the entire focus on that altar and the thing it frames is Mary herself specifically. All attention is brought towards her, not baby Jesus.
holy crap, who freakin cares?
>>538665797/thread
>>538665765These are the same people who destroyed polytheist temples because muh idolatry is bad
>>538665765>protestants will genuinely stare you dead straight in the eyes and tell you this isn't worship of jews, but merely just "veneration" or "adoration" and that there's totally a clearly distinction between those terms
>>538666859This. I just started going to Mass, and I'm glad my assigned glownigger has been putting up these threads for me. The don't dissuade me, they just make me learn more if anything.
>>538667840I am tired of inane time wasting rituals that do nothing but make retards feel good
>>538665765Love me some grimdark 40K vibesPraise be
moar moar moar
In the grim darkness of the catholshit future, there is only idolatry
>>538665765lol, OP is correct, but their mary idolatry pales in comparison with the murder of the christian saints (which they also later canonized and worship)truly, to be a catholic is a humiliation ritual.>>538666040mary is dead, you're praying to someone that can't hear youthe dead dont know what happens on earth, and we're not supposed to communicate with the dead eitheryou guys do literally everything that goes completely against the word of God, every single time.from murdering saints, to worshipping idols to literally deposing God, and abandoning his word to placing mens words as gospel.children of the devil you guys aredamned to hell you will be
>>538667153> 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’Your "worship" in the form of nibbling on a bit of rice paper is worthless
>>538667153>Everything else is idolatry/heresy
>>538665765wrong board religion is not politicsinb4 muh yes it isno, it is just d&c bullshit to waste anon's time>but but but butya, see below. dumb as arguments that mean jack shit>>538666040>we ask her to pray for usaside rom being dead and incapable of doing that. No one comes unto the Father except through Jesus>>538666040>the saints are alive in heavenno, they are dead in the dirt and if they were Mary worshiping idolaters ,they are in hell>>538666040>Revelation 6:9-11okay future boy
>>538665765>Be Gypsy>Be too stupid to understand the difference between veneration and worship
>>538666040> we do not worship mary, we ask her to pray for us, as we are told to dowhoa that's premium copium right there>truly, to be a catholic is a humiliation ritual.It's the only church within Christendom that I personally know where physically flaying oneself and mutilating oneself was considered a virtue.
>>538668083At this point being able to look at the pretty artwork gives the Catholics an edge over Protestants who's main sales pitch is being able to quote bible versus in a circle of insufferable spergs
>>538668192> religion is not politicslol > Israel > Iran falsely considered a "theocracy"> "C" in "CDU" stands for "Christian"> Vatican constantly meddling in political affairs> entire story of Jesus is about separating religion from fucking politics> Queen Bablyon rides on the back of the Wild Beast and fornicates with the Kings of the Earthlmao even
>>538665765Adorning in gold, parading it, and bowing to it are all things people did to the Ark of the Covenant. Mary is known as the new ark and so elements specific to it being a person are tacked on.Hope that helped, OP.
>>538665765>my branch of the abrahamic cult is better than yours!>no mine is! yours is a bunch of heretics!
>>538665765Catholics are the OG waifu worshippers, weebs ain't got shit on them
they sure went elusive with this one you know what tgeyvsay about the devil, everything that glitters is gold. deceive, deveption, materialoam a straying you rom gnjnnnnnjkn nnnn bbbbbj bbb nnn jj .bb nk mmm mmmour human naturewith forest and echos
>>538665765You pagancuck gypsies have some problem i see... the same spam everyday and nothing original
>>538665765>being venerated as a Catholic saint is better than being worshipped as a hindu dindu god>therefore, your religion is lying about its practices and true intentions!Because you feel that your own opinions and standards have been violated by what other people do in an institution that you are not a part of? Maybe you're just a subhuman and you need to stop applying the logic of an animal to the practices of human beings? Maybe it's time to accept that you are not equal to White people despite what some deceitful jews told you?
>>538665765Mary is literally the mother of God and she deserves respect.You can go fuck yourself you pr*t little rat. Nothing you say ever comes from a place of honesty.
>>538666498I'm 30 years old. I'm a wizard. Let me defile you. AMA
>>538668386> Mary is known as the new arkNo she isn't, you're talking out of your catholshit arse
>>538665765Religion is made up bullshit.
>>538665765Waifu goddess hear my prayers!
>>538668433>BetterMore accurate.*Surely you get the idea of debates when people get things wrong when all trying for what's true and good, yes?>>538668470Bro is falling asleep midpost>>538668353>Entire story of Jesus is separating religion from politicsBro he didn't found a book he founded a political organization. The church.
>>538665765you focus too much on the other designated losing teams that you too mr false christian are a part of.you will burn in hell alongside the catholics, the jews and the rest of you parasite motherfuckersvery soon.
>>538665765Notice like many deities St. Mary rides on a crescent. Looking forward to the new Mel Gibson movie about Jesus after His Ressurection.
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
>>538668386That does help anon, great analogy. This is why I have gained an interest in the Catholic church, so much literature and tradition to draw from.
>>538666498Any New Testement references? Thought not.
>>538667085Belief and disbelief are both leaps of faith.
>>5386685681. Literally both carried the word of God in two different senses. 2. By 190AD we have record of St. Hippolytus of Rome calling Mary the new ark casually, showing the view to proceed him3. In Chapter 1 of the Gospel of Luke, during the visitation, the narrative mimics the structure of David taking the Ark to Jerusalem in 2 Samuel. And in Revelation the vision of Mary and the Ark are intertwined. >>538668811Of course bro, happy to help. God bless. >>538666498>>538668841>New Testament referencesWe have Jesus speaking to the long-dead prophets at the transfiguration, showing the situation to not be as cut and dry as Protestants take it.
>>538667589Happens all the time, brother. You just have to let him in. Helps to go through Mary often.
>>538665765That's Isis not Mary
>>538667153Recieving the Eucharist is up there but one of my favorite parts of mass is when we all offer each other the sign of peace. I miss the old days where we shook hands. Covid made everyone afraid of human contact.
>>538665765>>538665765Why wouldn't you celebrate the mother of God?
I don't believe in Jewish fairy tales, so this really doesn't matter to me, but I've never understood the Catholic obsession with praying to saints.>Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.Seems pretty straightforward. If you're a believer, there is literally no good reason to pray to anybody but God.
>>538667885Hindus worship demons from the sand.
>>538668841yeah, i dropped that Hebrews verse in there. figured i wouldn't have to note that because it talks about the death of Christ in the past tense. you should have thought better
>>538665765>d-don't worship rabbi christ's mom>worship the rabbi himself!Absolutely golemized.
>>538665765>right this moment>somewhere on the planet>there is some cathocuck>who literally and unironically praises and worships his 2d waifu>sings songs of praise to her>burns candles for her>donates money to (her onlyfans) her temples>and recites poems about her gloryAll the weeb waifu cults are childs play compared to the cult of mary waifu
>>538669001>first changes worship to "veneration" and "adoration">then when neither of those cut it anymore, he just claims to be "celebrating" MaryEither you're deceived, retarded or simply just bad faith since you know exactly what you are doing yet deeply desire to not have to admit you are in the wrong, so you'd rather just continue to run with it and defend this practice.You should celebrate God who made you to begin with and saved you and who chose to be born through Mary, not the other way around.
>>538669040I love how jews try to claim Jesus as theirs when its convenient but spend all other hours hating him. Theres nothing jewish about Christ. That ended when he was born.
>>538665765Saints are going to sit on thrones alongside God's and judge souls and angels with HimMary is unquestionably going to be among themPer tradition she already has been taken to the Heaven so it's her current status This makes her a monarch with a God given mandate Thus we treat her like a one
>>538669104>"We treat Mary like God">totally nothing wrong with this btw because... uhhh... bunch of mental gymnastics or whatever based on scriptures that we randomly picked and chose the same way we said that when Jesus told Peter that he will be the rock on which He will build His church, that meant the Catholic faith as a whole along with the physical structure of the church and the hierarchy that comes to with it lol
>>538669099>Theres nothing jewish about Christ.Low quality bait.
>>538665765It bothers me too. 'Mary worship' is a valid complaint about Catholicism. It's meant to appeal to women and Hispanics, I believe, and it works. The very last thing we need is women worshiping themselves. Mary didn't sacrifice herself for anyone.
>>538669076>first changes worship to "veneration" and "adoration" In Polish, the words for "giving worship" is "oddawać cześć" and it is used not only when expressing submission and respect to God but also to a monarch.If you want to stick to english, the difference between veneration and worship is that veneration does not include sacrefice.
>>538668594>falling asleep mid postLol I've done that before but never posted it. Its a nice feeling getting tired and monging
>>538668790You say this and yet are moved by a conscience that speaks to you yet you have no control of.>>538669099It's an anti-jewish cause harming itself. God comes down as a Jewish man and legitimately his whole life he is trying to convert Jews and challenge Jewish leadership. For the anti-semites that should be laudable. But many take it too far and wish to deny the value of Jews humanity, which is a deeper issue altogether. Conversion should be the goal.
>>538669178>"We treat Mary like God" Not what I said, because you can defend your position only by lying >based on scriptures that we randomly picked I guess direct promises from Jesus are random bullshit >PeterI am talking about hierarchy in the Heaven. You are bringing hierarchy in the Church in the Earth.
>>538665765So you can only admire somthing if theres no gold? If theres goldnits worship?
>>538665765HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!!
>>538666469>>538665765>>538666978>>538667799>>538669076>>538669178you must be some sour busted-up gypsy-fucker, there is no other explanation for being so jelly
Same with Muslims and the Kabba, jews with their stupid wall, etc. They can't accept they're all Abrahamic in theory, pagan in practice. Protestants were once the only somewhat monotheist religion that descended from "Abrahamism", but then they decided to worship jews as a group as their new god.
>>538669196>The very last thing we need is women worshiping themselves. Mary didn't sacrifice herself for anyoneIt's even worse than that. She literally didn't do anything apart from going with her default settings, and is worshipped for it. And that's the intended point.There's an ongoing argument that:>men need to prove themselves, earn their place via hard work, education and discipline>women are perfect already, just worship them as they are, having a cunt is enough already Which is the fundamental disagreement between cathocucks and protestants, going back centuries. Protestants rejected worshipping women merely for them having a cunt, and thus rejected Mary waifu worship.
>>538668973>happens all the time>has happened once I dont care how he does it. The world needs more proof than stories written by men 5, 20, 100 years after he.died. imagine he could just make himself 200 ft tall and live on a mountain and people could nmke a pilgrimage to him and be blessed if he feels they deserve it.
>>538665765Ishtar worship.They've paganized our Virgin Mary, turning her into the "Queen of Heaven" pagan false goddess.Roman Catholics & Eastern Orthodoxy are both false churches.That's why they call themselves ROMAN catholic or EASTERN orthodox, but never Christian.
>>538669404And then there is this view that isn't based in any truth at all and people believe it because the Internet told them to
The Magna Mater is supposed to be worshiped isn't she?
>>538665797FPBP. Intercession is a difficult concept for the low IQ Protestant.
>>538665797Hey anon. Hey.I like you.
>>538665765Martin Luther was a Roman Catholicevery protestant should revere catholics because without them, there would be no Christianity
>>538669470You are the new pharisees, your catechisms is the Christian version of the Talmud.Luke 11:27-2827 As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” 28 But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”Even Jesus Christ rebuked you Marian worshippers.
>>538665765Well I guess they can scream it to Apollyon then they are on fire forever
>>538665765There is no need for the Pope when Jesus Christ is alive & ruling over the world now as our Head.Jesus Christ is our head, not some Roman Pontifex Maximus.Roman Catholics worship Rome, Eastern Orthodox worship Constantinople, neither worship Jesus Christ.
>>538669104>Saints are going to sit on thrones alongside God's and judge souls and angels with HimThat is us bro. We are the saints. Every single person who believe in Christ and dies with their faith in Him is a saint. Not just some randomly picked one that the Church "canonizes".Mary isn't up there judging your or holding any power whatsoever regarding your redemption, grace nor forgiveness or anything similar.All of that is resigned to Christ alone, and by Him you will be judged when you die with your faith put in Him.WE are the SAINTS and WE will be reigning together with Christ and judging over those who died but weren't in Christ, along with the Fallen Angels who they they themselves will ultimately have to stand trial for all that they have ever done and caused other humans to fall into along the course of time.Some may come to have higher status than other and be relegate to look over bigger matters and more crowds of people than others, but how does that ultimately justify you kneeling to them when you yourself are crowned and made to be co-reign with Christ, just the same as others have been and will be?The royalty that you will ultimately come to have proceeds directly from Christ. He is the originator of it and you kneel to Him alone for it, not Mary. She is not the one that grants you any type of royalty or status, nor grace, nor salvation, nor mercy, nor is she the one who is going to be judging you, unless you're one of the people that will come to die without having accepted Christ as their Lord and Savior.
>>538665765They also believe in works-based salvation, anathema to our gospel that preaches faith-based salvation.There's just a whole lotta things wrong over there. Eternal conscious torment? Not even biblical.
>>538665765Don't they also change the second commandment? Kek
>>538667085He spit in the face of all you evil money changing Kabbalah jesuit masons and told everyone else to do the same. Christ is king and is truly the son of God.
The horns are based. True god of white man.
>>538665765Worship to Catholics is what we do at the Eucharist. It's not just having a few nice statues.Worship to protties is a few soft rock songs and a lecture. So of course anything more than that looks like worship to them.
>>538665765Nobody gives a fuckJews are the greatest threat in the world and anyone misdirecting us away from gassing the bikes fucking immediately is a fucking kike kill yourself op
>>538665765It is the Christian extension of the Roman Vestal Virgins, the eternal flamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABHAUyGsO9U&list=PLNFaVsE0GoslFLkRV_VwXxq_2dFPag9iZ&index=1
>>538668083when archlich magdalene speaks, i listen
>>538666040>We ask her to pray >Literally trying to communicate with the deadCatholics like to ignore the times when the Bible points out how trying to talk to the dead is not allowed. Your saints are dead, Mary is dead, you pray to God,and Christ who live. You don't need to pray to anyone nor should you, to intercede on your behalf, that's literally what Christ died for, you can talk to him,directly, any time.Read your Bible and realize catholisism has massive amounts of bullshit in it.
One an unrelated note to Catholicism, I also have issue with Eastern Orthodoxy apparently treating Mary in similar ways.There's literally a prayer here that begins not with God, but Mary directly, calling her something akin to "Most Holy Mother of God" then continues and ends with "Have mercy on us.", then it proceeds into praying to God.Every single time I hear this, something just doesn't feel right. I get a weird internal feeling of uneasiness regarding the whole thing.Mary can't "have mercy" on anyone since that's God's entire thing. And starting the whole service with a prayer to her instead of God first doesn't sit right with me either. Why put Mary first instead of God?
>>538666752Because the jews didn't use the Greek translation of Yeshua's name, rather sticking with the original Aramaic?Same as why they call the god of Judaism, Christianity and Islam (all the same god) "God" as derived from the langobard word for Odin (Godun). Or, in the case of Catholics, Deus, directly taken from what English speakers call Zeus. Why don't Christians call their god by his actual name YHWH?
>>538665765why do people get so salty about this?There's status all around honoring apostles and shit. But you bitch about Mary, because they put a crown on her? She's the fucking queen. The mother of all mothers. The one who birthed and raised God.Also there are no Catholic masses where Mary is the center of the entire proceeding. Do you also oppose people praying to angels, and saints?
>>538665765>At WHAT point does God in general, whether Jesus, The Father or The Holy Spirit come into the picture here.At the point where the statue is inside the HOUSE OF GOD. And at the point of where she's the mother of God.
>>538665765Yep it's just pure paganism. Roman Catholicism has NEVER been about a monotheistic god. They simply merged early Christianity with Roman paganism so the existing pagan plebs would find it easier to convert over.
>>538670212>Praying to the angels and the saintsYes lol because again you don't pray to an angel, I forgot the verse but one of the prophets did this and they angle told him not to because they serve the same master. Also the saints are dead men. You can not talk to the dead, the dead and the liveing are separated they can not speak to each other. Again this is biblical as well. READ the bible paco, don't just have it preached to you.
>>538670382You oppose people praying to saints?There's plenty of Christians (non-Catholic), who pray to angels. Archangel Gabriel and such. Your people also pray to saints. It's obsessive to want all the faith to be fully centralized on God. >>538670382>You can not talk to the deadYou can't talk to God either. The bible says a lot of shit. Most of it not autistically followed. Do you believe praying or honoring other religious characters, takes away from having faith in God?
>>538670186No. They historically have used it as an acronym that means “May his name and memory be blotted out”. Which obviously they cannot do. But people saying “jews control Christianity”, that simply doesn’t make any sense.
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>>538670549>You can't talk to GodYes, you can, god is alive and you can speak to him any time you want >Praying to others What part of no one gets to the father except through me is not sticking with you? Why do you not understand that speaking to anyone other then God, is falling on deaf ears at best, demonic influence at worst. There is nothing wrong with honoring and recognizing important biblical figures but you don't pray to them, they all serve the same God.
>arguing about some Jewish hoe who got pump and dumped by a chad UNCIRCUMCISED Roman pagan and conjured up some shit about an angel to explain the miraculous pregnancy to her snivelling jew husbandNone of you are white.
>>538670688Take your meds schizo
>>538670692Why did so many people of White Euro descent believe it?
>>538665765The difference is in Catholicism the statue is just a symbol of Mary. A hindu statue of say Ganisha is litterally Ganisha and they make offerings as such. Like piss christ shock art of the 1990s no one resorted to violence. You do a piss Brahma or Piss Mohammed brownoids are gonna chimp out.
>>538665765If I put a pic of JFK on my wall, that is WORSHIP and idolatry punishable by death according to Noahide Laws.לאסוף את זה
>>538665765YHVH rapes virgins
>>538670723Christianity got lucky, hijacked Rome as it died and the barbarians of Germany and Gaul wanted to emulate the Romans who had conquered them centuries earlier. They got their chance as the Empire crumbled due to Christianity ironically, and as they migrated they adopted the religion of the slaves who lived in the ruins of what once the Empire, little realising it had nothing to do with those who had conquered them.
>>538665765the only thing wrong with this is that it's the jewish mother of a circumcised rabbi upon the altar. it should be venus or vesta instead.
>>538670186>Why don't Christians call their god by his actual name YHWH?There are so many gods in the bible. Sure, YHWH is in there, but the word they start using is Elohim, which is the pluralized form. Even in the Pentateuch, the jews must bounce around worshipping a dozen different demons, but it's difficult to tell because the sneaky fucking kikes refuse to name them. And, in the entire gospel, Jesus only names the god he worships once: Abba. Pretty sure that the schizos are on to something when they say Christianity is completely jewed... Jesus was quite clearly the enemy of YHWH. They crucified him for it.PS The story of Abraham is really funny. Abraham was (probably) told by Molech to sacrifice his first-born son. Did so. Went down the mountain afterward alone (how can a dead son walk back down the mountain with him?). Never spoke to his father again, did not attend his mother's funeral when she died. The jews were so ashamed of this, they forged their own scriptures and wrote in a passage that says an angel stopped Abraham from doing the deed. But they weren't the master counterfeiters that they are today, they've had thousands of years of practice by now. Back then, they forgot to add the parts where Isaac walked back down the mountain. (They even used the wrong not-names for God... the spirits ordering him to sacrifice his son were "Elohim", but the one who put a stop to it was "YHWH", couldn't keep the story straight.) Fucking kikes and their demon-worship.
>>538665765The issue is the trinity. Jesus proceeds from the father but former Serapis worshippers in Alexandria worshipped Jesus in replacement and not as much the Father who was instead seen as that to which Jesus is connected from which he manifested as God.To lower the father to satisfy the Athanasians, they created the trinity. This complicated the person of Jesus and made the premise of his birth to a mortal woman as fully god and fully man difficult to reconcile. So the had to twist Mary into a semi but not quite divine figure Theotokos.The church (orthodox) doesn’t use this example but the best I can say about Mary is that God created her as a second Eve without sin. Not divine but neither fallen.Maybe then in a stretch you can make Mary and Jesus pseudo patriarchs of a non-sexual new divine human familyWhere Mary isn’t worshipped but venerated Jesus’s partner in this task, but a role which itself is part of the non divine aspect of Jesus but of course by Chalcedon we know the man and divine are integrated oh well
>>538665765Catholicism is the most anti Christian religion on earth. They do the opposite of what the bible says to do. If you read the bible for what it says and not what anyone since then has written, it's actually Jehovah's witnesses that get it right yet everyone hates them.
>>538670549do you own a bible? i realize there are many corrupt versions but do YOU own a bible? do you read it? Are you making up shit as you go along or just taking somebody's word for what is written in the bible? Nobody is praying to Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Daniel, Samuel, Elijah, Isaiah, or any other prophet and that is exactly as they would advise you. Prayer, fervently and intently seeking help from a recognized sovereign deity, is reserved to be directed to God. That is God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit of God. God exists in this trinity for a purpose, you can see it in both the Old and New Testaments. what you don't see is the LORD commanding a prophet to pray to some other dead guy. never happens. what you do see is a condemnation of following the traditions of men over the law of God. where do you think the authority is?
>>538665765Lutheranism Mary is include in vault of saints as the holy mother of god real prescene is there no bro Mary is in genesis helping to create mankind Catholic church had the scriptures all 73 scriptures Zoroaster predates Judaism and Etruscans trying and atlanteans were the Catholics latin language group stupid satanic liar more satanic rotten flesh and gayness protestants and satanic gt heretics and retarded this board York rite hias mizraimphis like dge and norm n jws ad anti chris5illiterate retarded ones Joseph was a pontiff an was honoring that divine goddess you meaning and ye tens of miracles hundreds of millions actually Sherman and Sheridan burned you out Jews freemasons gospel shop you're not educated and are satanic stupid
Oh it’s another episode of “jews pretending to be pagan on /pol/ to complain about Christians”
>>538666498Wrong Satan Melchizedek was a pontiff graven images are all in the Tabernacle of catholicism 2500 bc and and 2000 bc in the temple Solomon was a monarch defending the papal states statues and relice are commanded the f hereticnasa rotted your skull Fatima zeitoun warraq assirut the book of the dea is Jews and freemasons gods lol shit tier mfer
>>538666498Please vulgate correct mistranslation of scriptures all that antichrist shit goes poisoned inbredgnand illiteracy nasa hoax fake my on rocks Mary is one with god and co creator towel g sbel inverted her la sallete cofemns your shit
>>538667085Daily ad minute reminder cris5risted mary exists and zeitoun Fatima Warsaw assirut af nasa proven a hoax worldwide destroyed.that shit talmuic thumping reject Polaris never moves no sky vacuum retard dumb satanic lying gay littein res bullshit artistad faggot Zoroaster was defrocked from catholicism from catholicism Aristotle god is real Jews are not and retarded morons bots are bent over Fatima and zeitoun warraq assirut and etc
>>538667139You dumb fucks shit in the kull criminals to be killed you are not peope to be hunted down and kill commie Zion Hindu Islam and pot or occucltist stupid bitch america is a communist nas is fake faggot nigger tranny no senses asswipe
>>538671429Why are you repeating the Arabic word for olive
>>538667282Descendents of the papal monarchy states no jews etruscad existed and Constantinee deacsntes through davis
>>538671170>Look back a little and see what has happened. Nineteen hundred years ago you were an innocent, carefree, pagan race. You worshipped countless gods and goddesses, the spirits of the air, of the running streams and of the woodland. You took unblushing pride in the glory of your naked bodies. You carved images of your gods and of the tantalizing human figure. You delighted in the combats of the field, the arena and the battle-ground. War and slavery were fixed institutions in your systems. Disporting yourselves on the hillsides and in the valleys of the great outdoors, you took to speculating on the wonder and mystery of life and laid the foundations of natural science and philosophy. Yours was a noble, sensual culture, unirked by the prickings of a social conscience or by any sentimental questionings about human equality. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.
>>538667375Heretics and hate god lie inbred shit pig John loftus ad tr invasion of satanic nutcase shit foreground is no t background.illiterate bots
>>538666040>Revelation 6:9-11Where does it say their prayers are from other people who are still alive? >>538670616HOURLY REMINDER: take your meds
>>538667929Tesla marconi hertz Volta the Jews are shit to burned at the stake that's inbred ifcj are satanic demonic hereticzeitoun warraq assiut
>>538671170>In full, of course, you never have accepted our Christian teachings. In your hearts you still are pagans. You still love war and graven images and strife. You still take pride in the glory of the nude human figure. Your social conscience, in spite of all democracy and all your social revolutions, is still a pitifully imperfect thing. We have merely divided your soul, confused your impulses, paralyzed your desires. In the midst of battle you are obliged to kneel down to him who commanded you to turn the other cheek, who said "Resist not evil" and "Blessed are the peace-makers." In your lust for gain you are suddenly disturbed by a memory from your Sunday-school days about taking no thought for the morrow. In your industrial struggles, when you would smash a strike without compunction, you are suddenly reminded that the poor are blessed and that men are brothers in the Fatherhood of the Lord. And as you are about to yield to temptation, your Jewish training puts a deterrent hand on your shoulder and dashes the brimming cup from your lips. You Christians have never become Christianized. To that extent we have failed with you. But we have forever spoiled the fun of paganism for you.
>>538667929Mkultra nasa is fake another satanc pee pro Israel Zionist ufo cult fr pizzrael and they are not christians the Jews are baby fucking baby dgksucking blind larping discredited shithitper Mussolini Petain and Franco right should shit in skull retardet satan loftus skull criminals dog
>>538668083Catholic truth and beauty incorruyible Lebanon mexico franc you are satanic inbredshit inbred satanic lying hugueknots Fatimas zeitoun warraq assiut protestants and Jews and freemasons will tell any damn lies do anything for their jim bakker TN cbn anti Christ
>>538668192Hitler Mussolini wrong priesthood lass created the state these tumors uulsurper far moon they are not Christ their president of novus ord seclpurem splc naacp jew worship for nnillegal phony state
>>538668353Vatcan is a building the true papscy siri father Charles roux schism line of 1958 no council make your states
>>538665765Jesus was a targeted individual. Mary was a troon, in with the gang-stalkers. Xer bought Jesus from the 3 wise men. So Homo Catholic gang-stalkers worship xer.
>>538668454Seen miraculous on ground and sky everywhere healig in egypt
>>538670742>A hindu statue of say Ganisha is litterally GanishaUmmm no they don't. They don't believe the idol itself is Ganesha or shiva or whatever. They believe that it's just a representation. Have you ever even met a Hindu?
>>538668988In the Church of England we shake hands. Why don't you? What other sign of peace is there? Two fingers?Am pretty sure and hand shaking ritual or whatever you do in Canada, willy-waving prsumably, has neither scriptural or customary basis. Didn't they start doing it in the 1980s or 90s.
>>538671084I said saints. And yes, many people pray to saints. For example, the saint of sailors, and the saint for healing>>538671084>condemnation of following the traditions of men over the law of God. where do you think the authority is?The authority is in God. That isn't changed in Catholicism. People can also have their own traditions. Do you truly believe that God cares, when it's the same sentiment of praying for good? And the characters in question have been declared holy?
>>538670940Sad state of affairs. I do still wonder how the universe came to be. It's so fucking intriguing lol.
>>538671532well..i have never seen a bot broken so hard. just fuck off, Christ defined his family as those who would do the will of the Father. the words of Christ convict the traditions of men. even the Old Testament prophets state this is as a future event but they DID NOT understand it. God admires loyalty, faith, fidelity, obedience. If you find yourself on earth seeking God then it should be obvious that you are not God. Pray to God, seek God, search the so-called holy books and see where the lies are. As one who has done this, Christianity alone preserves the Word of God. be aware, the agents of satan know exactly who they are.
>>538672122i was raised catholic. i hated to hear or see anything that went astray of what i was told. here's my challenge, read the Word of God for yourself. I made a commitment to throw away everything else that could not be verified by the Word of God, understanding that the Word of God would be sufficient. i read in the New Testament Gospels where Jesus defined who is his family. I read where Jesus affirmed the Old Testament. I learned of the conquests of the Old Testament and how God manages the world. I did NOT find anything to contradict the authority of God. I IDID find that man is on trial and God is truly just and is advising man on how to act so he might live. you can search occult philosophy and find parallels but in that, the lies are also prevalent.
>>538672220>you're a broken bot>fuck off>but first let me write out a whole paragraphWhy are you replying to known bots?
>>538668155Mary is alive in Heaven with her Son, Jesus Christ. Both have crowns. You should ask her to pray for you for the same reasons you should ask anyone else to pray for you and additionally because she's in heaven and also because she's God's mother.
>>538672122the Word of God existed before man. how then is there a mother of God? God has morals and Himself adheres to a personal code of conduct, thankfully. How then, do you suppose, that the earthly presence of God in the flesh of man conveys the authority of man in the form of a woman? Rather, that is a near unbelievably humbling gesture by a supreme deity to walk among men and show us how it is done. No man has talked about the 'riches and bitches' of Christ. He did not abuse us and we did not profit him, but blessed be God in his mercy. I know who comes here. You should know when He comes back, and He will, it won't be to shake hands. IF i lived in Israel, i would get the fuck out. I would go to some small 4th world island. best of luck and Ben Gvir is likely queer
>>538665765They whoreship Mary because Jesus commanded her to turn the other cheek and she did, accepting the Holy Nut. For this day they still Turn The Other Cheek
>>538672528you read it, or maybe you reddit?
>>538665765If you pray to the statue itself, and whatever actually inhabits it, and all it to do stuff directly, that's idolatry and yes, humanity used to do that. If you pray to the one represented by the statue, but not physically there in the statue, and all it to do shit for you, that's a form of polytheism but an improvement over idolatry. If you ask the one represented to go and bother God with your shit, you're a metaphorical annoying little sibling, but it's just the cult of the Saints, it's what we get when ancestor worship gets mixed with monotheism. It's pretty straightforward.
>>538671900>Jesus was a targeted individuallmao
>>538668568>No she isn'tLiterally just go get catechized in any Catholic church. Roman, Byzantine, Orthodox, and Episcopal all have priests. Just show up to weekly courses and ask. You can have someone with 8 years advanced education on the subject call you retarded instead of an anon
>>538666469>Are you yourself more inclined to grow in bond with someone that directly interacts with your or with someone that only ever interacts with you based on proxiesWhen you go to a big ass concert, how much do you directly interact with the superstar, and how much do you bond with others at the same venue?
>>538670172Mary is Alive. The Saints are alive. Being in Heaven is being alive.
>>538672901bro... God is your FATHER, not a distant figure that is just out of reach who seeks to send you away from Him because you annoy Him.You have a direct relationship with Him, as you're meant to be His son. You have a bond that you are meant to grow in, both with God and your fellow brothers in faith, as you are all part of God's family. This isn't that type of interaction you're trying to convey or think about. It's a direct familial one you're meant to growing in through genuine and direct conversation along with the trust that comes in having to put into it.
>>538670172Bro,if the saints are dead,how could Jesus hava talked with Moses and Elijah ?
>>538668155>mary is deadOh my God! They killed Mary!She's ascended in body. If it sounds silly, it's because it is, that's religion for you, but she's up there, alive and in bodily form. Also, not directly effective as she's still just a mortal (the best of us mortals, and has the ear of the upper management, but she isn't divine)
>>538665765False. Most Catholics and Christians in general aren't even practicing their faith. They go to church less times than they go to hospital. This is the biggest difference Christians and muslims. Christianity underwent renaissance, while islam is still stuck in the pre-renaissance medieval savagery than Christianity overcame.
>>538673192>She's ascended in bodyHeavenly MILF
>>538666040Only Jesus can intercede for us though
>>538672506>the Word of God existed before man>read the Word of GodNigga thinks the Bible exists eternally.
>>538665765Since it's a Mary thread, let's once and for all answer a really important question:Did Mary shit herself when giving birth to baby Jewsus? Women often shit themselves when giving birth. Did Mary?
>>538672791>how then is there a mother of God?That's literally in John 1, and the Word became flesh.You might enjoy that gospel more than the others, I think it work match you're vibe better.
>>538673091Do you not understand the concept of being dead TO THE WORLD and having no knowledge of what goes down on it anymore nor care about it anymore as your focus now is on God and the life you have to life now eternity with Him?
>>538673375In the Bible was stated that the angels are aware of what happens in Earth
Imagine praying to a jewess and worshipping her...Sad
>>538673192>>538673375God impregnated Mary (cucking her husband), and the bitch was so fine he was all like:>GOD DAYMN THAT 14 YEAR OLD WAS TIGHT AS FUCK, BRING HER UP IN HERE I WANT MORE, BRING HER HERE TO HEAVEN IN THE FLESH
>>538665765I agree it's retarded that they make someone who was in a couple of chapters of the Bible at best a central figure of veneration. But it would help them appeal to more women, since we know that women have to have a self-insert female of importance in order to be drawn to anything (look at the explosion of female Star Wars and Marvel fans these past 20 years). Also, a clergy made up of abstinent men builds giant statues of a chaste woman - are you surprised? Cos I'm not.
>>538673462Mary the Mother of God was from a Greek city, Sepphoris, with Nazareth being a small suburb. This means that the Holy Family spoke Greek often and was a part of ancient Greek life. Why did Christ choose this region to spread his message? Why not Jerusalem? What is his Greek background telling us? Why were the Jews of the era so vehemently against him from the beginning? Could it be that he was a foreigner? Is this why they kept referring to his place of origin as a pejorative label?Jesus taught at the local synagogue. His insights were such that he was informally called “rabbi” which meant teacher, it was not a title conferred by the Jewish religion like it is today. He chose Capernaum, another Greek city, in which to teach. Despite being educated at the Temple, he remained outside the Jewish mainstream through his connection with Greek culture. In other words, Christianity is a European, Greek faith. Most of the Apostles had Greek names and all the earliest Apostolic writings are in Greek. The earliest synodal structures conducted their business in Greek. Is this a coincidence?Galilee was also called Decapolis, a very Greek part of the Mideast. Galilee was under the control of the Tetrarch, Herod Antipas, the son of Herod the Great. The Galilee region included towns such as Capernaum and Magdala. It was a mixed area, but the dominant language was certainly Greek.Tiberias is a Greek city that became the headquarters of Herod Antipas on the shoreline near Capernaum. Tiberias was named after the Roman Emperor who ruled at the time. It became the new capital city of Galilee. Religious Jews shunned Tiberias during the time of Jesus, since it was built on top of a cemetery. This made it “unclean” under Jewish law. Yet, this is where Christ created his ministry.https://www.radioalbion.com/2018/09/the-orthodox-nationalist-christ-and.html?m=1
>>538673330On the one hand, of course she did, it was a natural birth, you always shit.This isn't Good Omens, you don't just enact minor miracles for the protagonist convenience.On the other, they were poor and on the move, begging for a place to stay. Had she even had any food recently?
why not go to the Word of God. If God doesn't change in His values as He says and from Genesis prophesied about a Messiah for man, wouldn't you just take God at his Word instead of a man? the seed prophecy was given in Genesis. the Old Testament prophets gave the Word of the Lord though they did not always grasp the concept. We have the advantage of the further books, sometimes hundreds of years apart and yet, there it is. Just do what Jesus said, man. Approach the Father in prayer and in faith in, and the name of Jesus Christ, acknowledging the fulfillment of the prophecies. That's it. Don't compromise with the world but let the world go astray where it will not coform to God. Put obedience to God's commandments above all else in your life and you've got it. i understand it but i am not there myself. Such is the trial of man, best of luck anons
>>538673321yeah man, if you die, the Word of God does not. the Word of God remains consistent and is the equal arbiter (judge) of man as God Himself has defined man. you and i are creations, we indeed are subservient but thankfully, our Creator is not a tyrant
>>538673543INRI
>>538673452ANGELS, not people, ANGELS. PEOPLE are NOT ANGELS.Angels literally have to study humans and the way our life down here works in order to better understand various things and not somehow allow themselves to fall in the similar traps that caused the Fallen Angels to fall in the first place.We are here on Earth to learn from direct life experience and be prepared for Eternity with God, Angels are learning our equivalent of that but by watching and studying us over the course of our lives.People who are in Heaven no longer have no care of what goes on down here on Earth.
>>538665765hello OP I just stopped by to call you a nigger and a faggot
>>538673694The Word of God is Christ. You're calling the Bible Christ. Ironically for you, there is no biblical basis for this, and it pretty much sums up as idolatry, only in the place of a false god you have placed a book.
>>538673570Did she cum? Many women cum when giving birth
>>538673705>People who are in Heaven no longer have no care of what goes on down here on Earth.The numerous intercessions and appearances by saints throughout history unequivocally testify against this. Why would they not care about what goes down on Earth? Christ does, and they live in Christ. There is nothing more important to God and the saints than the fate of the humanity and the salvation of our souls.
>>538673816That's not as universal as shitting.If you want to get a boner, stop fantasizing about Mary and go dig in a catacomb instead.
>>538669366protestant built empires of wageslavery and exploitationadoring the natural, or the 'default settings' is where cultures and civilizations come from
now Ive got some problems with the church, especially in its modern form, but Ill have everyone reminded that the catholic church is currently the only major religious institution in the west that is opposed to both israel and AI and have made firm stances against them. thats why youre seeing all these anti-catholic posts lately. the protestants are too enslaved and too stupid. i dont care if they follow the bible closer to sola scriptura since im a pagan; this is contradictory to new testament teachings anyway so theyre wrong by their own religion
>>538665765It's actually wild how many protestants refuse to just listen to or look up any kind of defense of this sort of thing and instead go entirely by their headcanon. You expect this from burgers because of their cultural inoculation but it's weird coming from a romanian
>>538673977american cultural operatives have been very active in eastern europe for the last decade or so. main reason all the slav zoomers are so into rap and other nigger genres.
>>538674130That's true, and EU projects too, but in my experience you don't get to OP's kind of specifically anti-catholic seethe without having heard those arguments in the first place, and you only get those from protestants. They are part of the protestant canon. An atheist wouldn't come up with it
>>538665765Oh look it’s the daily jewish thread seething against Rome kek. Daily reminder you haven’t practiced your idolatrous filth since the destruction of the temple in 70AD
>>538673977It’s a jew.
>>538665765Worship requires sacrifice.Something you dumb prots don't understand because you don't actually worship God
>>538672506>I made a commitment to throw away everything else that could not be verified by the Word of God, understanding that the Word of God would be sufficient. i read in the New TestamenYou have poor reading comprehension, nigger. And even worse critical thinking skills. No one who really reads the bible would ever think "these things go together". And that goes a thousandfold for someone who says "I threw out everything that couldn't be verified". The only part of the bible that's even slightly true is Gospel of Mark. Even that, they jewed it up after the fact with post-resurrection nonsense because they were afraid of what it meant that it didn't match the other three. Jesus never mentions YHWH once, seems to be his enemy. Only cryptically refers to the deity he is a messenger of as "Abba" (Aramaic for "father"). Is on the run, hiding out. Telling everyone "tell no one". And once you start from there, lots of things become apparent:1. The jews only worship demons, and because they keep refusing to name them, it looks like they're usually worshiping just one.2. Jesus had nothing to do with them or their demon, and it was some desperate bid to cult-deprogram them all that didn't work out as planned.3. Virtually nothing you consider holy is.4. You're so utterly retarded, along with all the other christians, that when Jesus warned you "others will come after me and claim to speak in my name, or even to be me" you're intellectually incapable of heeding the warning.
All you Jeets and kikes need to stop, it's only digging a deeper hole. As for you pagan larpers, the real Occultist's want you just as dead as the Christians. They can't fuck with you like we can. When the Shit goes down, don't worry about the Christin's; We'll be Hunting you as pray soon enough, and they'll look the other way and let us handle it and subject you to horrors so fun you'll beg for salvation. It's funny because you find Jesus quick when it's too late.
Tranny op, you retards fell for it.
KYS larpy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6b2tTeqtDI&t
>>538672842>If you pray to the one represented by the statue, but not physically there in the statue, and all it to do shit for you, that's a form of polytheism but an improvement over idolatry.Even the YHWH worshipers believed that their god was present in the Temple. That they weren't just worshiping and sacrificing to a representation of it, but that it was physically present. None were allowed to see it except for the priest, and him only one day a year. Jews, Christians, all of them believe this. Or would, if they bothered to read their own bibles. Literacy's a bitch, I guess. If a jew or a christian tells you otherwise, they're lying or too stupid to know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rGoWSJCZ5E
>>538673931>protestant built empires of wageslavery and exploitationYeah and I guess that an unintended (I assume it's unintended) effect of protestant worldview is the mass epidemic of mental illness amongst teenage and young adult females. They constantly are told that they are "not enough", "faulty", inadequate. For men this usually results in men becoming better. In women it seems it results in mental illness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwtVsX3V-9Y
Retarded larper, into the wood chipper with your fellow pagans & kikes
>>538670669/pol/tards be like>nooo, you can't follow jesus, don't you see that's what jews want??meanwhile IRL>jesus kicked jews out of temple>jews absolutely hate jesuslmao /pol/goys will fall for this jewish trick 100% of the time
