If you were Putler how would you save face at this point /pol/?
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Just carry on until the last Ukrainian. The end of a war of attrition is, *** drumroll ***, attrition of one the parties. Shocking, I know. Give me some more words that will somehow decide this war.
>>538670960Why does everyone act like the russia thing is about them trying to advance? Russia is just draining europe. They dont give s fuck
>>538670960Another fake screenshot by a poltard
>>538670960Putin has no chance, Russia maybe has one. Russia's problem is that it has no friends. China is coveting its lost manchurian territories and Siberia, Iran was recently betrayed by Russia in favor of Israel that barely cares, Assad is now a vidya-addicted gooner, all economically important countries to the west hate Russia, America only uses Russia to keep Europe in check and abuses it otherwise and the rest of BRICS wouldn't care if Russia went up in flames tomorrow. Even Belarus is threatening Russia multiple times a year. In the long run, Russia either relinquishes its eastern territories to China and becomes a minor power within the EU, or gets violently partitioned in the inevitable war with NATO and its own rowdy muslim vassals, both of which it isn't able to resist.
>>538670960The point of the war is to kill off millions of Slavs so the jews can claim the land and then repopulate it with brown imported niggers and jeets who will work the fields for them.
>>538670960Give Iran a couple nukes
>>538671314Putler would never be this based but this would be kino
>>538671282>Dead man walking still shooting the breeze
>>538670960Land doesn't fight wars, people do, and Ukraine has lost half its population
>>538671282Oh, dear!
>>538671282and then you woke up and you took your estrogen pills
>>538670960That's usually how these types of wars go. The defenders hold out for a long time with barely changing front lines but then something changes such as leadership or morale and everything collapses suddenly. Everyone is always surprised when it happens too.
>>538671568>picrelYou know Putin worships jews, right? That's why he refused to support Iran and is importing Indians in massive numbers. You can easily find a dozen pictures of him wearing the kippa if you simply google it.
>>538670960Man up, make peace. Surrender the areas I invaded without justification. Focus on developing the country I actually legally have. Probably refuse to pay reparations cos I can't afford them. The west will forget in a week and want to trade again and it'll blow over. Commit suicide.
>>538670960Dude, it's actually kind of crazy. We've been hearing "Ukraine is joining NATO" every single day for like five years, and then you realize they are farther away from becoming a member than ever.
>>538674714Dictators are mentally weak cowards and admitting mistakes is impossible for them.
>>538671048That works out so perfectly that Russia now imports diesel from India.1,5m pidors died for this with no end in sight and Ukraine is more armed than ever before.Good job monke
>>538674804Only you HIVans believe the nonsense that Ukraine was ever to join NATO
>>538670960Launch attacks on the Baltic states to secure the Suwalki gap. If NATO doesn't activate article 5 then I get Russia some ez clay, if they do then that gives me an excuse to order a full mobilization to finally consolidate Ukraine and hold back le vvest.
>>538674978Nobody cares about Ukraine joining whatever. The real issue for Russia would have been an American Military base near the Azovian Sea which would effectively cut off Russia entirely from the Black Sea.As long as there's an ongoing conflict they can shell every American they see in the entire Ukraine. This is why they can drag out the conflict for the next 20 years.
he's going to declare martial law within the next few days. he does not have the luxury of waiting.
>>538674931>1.5 million RussiansLOL LMAO SURE NIGGER. That's on par with the Russians saying only 5000 guys died.
>>538675116That's a new cope I never heard before.Before Putins retarded war the black sea fleet still existed and their merchant ships weren't bombed all the time but now it's somehow better that they effectively lost the entire black sea?
>>538670960Make Moldova an offer they cannot refuse.
>>538672743russia is run by a cabal of tuvan buddhists
>>538670960Putin should attack Iran, say he won, then sign a surrender document, then try to weazle out of it, then restart the war and lose again.
>Why does everyone act like the russia thing is about them trying to advance? >Russia is just draining europe. They dont give s fuckHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>538674931How's the weather in ramstein private?
>>538675116you have to go back
>>538670960first of all i wouldn't bother with the opinion of a streamer who gobbles jewish cock and can't figure out basic personal hygiene, then i would simply finish winning the war I'm already winning and make eurofags seethe with impotent rage
>>538675335Retarded mutt
>>538675423Run your country, yes.
I highly suspect the real reason for the Russia war is so they are so bogged down they can't help Iran. Remember the 2014 coup occurred just a few years after Iran helped Syria win the Syrian civil war
>>538670960Ukraine is on the brink of another revolutionZelenskii will flee the country soon
>>538675452Simping for the degenerate shithole Russia while your country is falling apart, hating on ukrainians for defending themself.Biden supposedly started the war so you all must be contrarian.You miggers all deserve to hang.
>>538675423no kiddingairman, not private
>>538675558It is because Russia is on the same side Ukraine is. The only losers here are people dying in a war that even if they "win" they will not benefit from it, plus the retarded Europeans and Americans giving money through taxes to see both side killing their own people for another kike ritual.
>>538675558Putin said many times that they support Israel over Iran but you retards don't want to accept the truth.
>>538670960Trump has been fighting Iran for months now and has made exactly 0% gains on Iranian soil, while Russia is fighting an army that has the entire backing of the first world short of official boots on the ground (though lots of western special ops groups and foreign volunteers have fought directly against Russia) and in the face of having to learn a new style of warfare dominated by drones Russia is still going to achieve all its strategic objectives, win a battlefield victory, and annihilate the Ukraine as an economically viable country for at least a century if not forever due to the sheer number of Ukrainian men being killed and the majority of the rest fleeing to become permanent refugees who will not return to the several diminished Ukraine after the war, when Russia seizes the actually economically important areas and leaves the impoverished ruin studded western Ukraine to flounder under gangster regimes.
>>538675643>n-n-noo y-y-you must be a paid shill to hate russiaeat shit faggot
>>538670960Seppuku. There is no other way out from the shame.
>>538671282>Russia's problem is that it has no friends.Except for more than half of humanity in BRICSThe entire rest of your post is mind reading of people you can't even name.
>>538675679I mean bro they backed Assad. You think they wouldn't back Iran?I think the reason they are rushing to get Iran done now is before the Ukraine war ends, since they won't have this window of opportunity for a long time again.
>>538670960I would pay retarded antisocial losers on the internet to spam /pol/ and twitter. That's how you win wars, right?
>>538674978Zelenski seems to think he was going to join NATO. NATO refused to ban Ukraine joining because they seemed to think it would happen. NATO trained equipped and commanded Ukraine's military, so I can see why an outside observer might think it was in the cards
It's not an RTS game, if Russia has good dug-in positions where they are they can get resupplied and attack, then move forwards or not as they choose. Ukraine will run out of soldiers before Russia and will collapse at some point if NATO doesn't interfere.I've read "news" of Russia running out of ammunition since at least 2020.
>>538675624maybe you should clean your own room before you criticise others mehmet
>>538675918Has Assad ever done anything against Israel? That cuck faggot didn't do anything that Israel occupied parts of Syria either.
>>538670960Nukes. Throw the same bullshit the yanks used to nuke the Japs. He only needs to justify himself with the old saying that goes like:> " According to our estimats, it will take half a million civilian deaths and three more years to conquer all Ukraine, therefore two nukes that will kill only 160,000 people and make the enemy surrender immediately are a preferable outcome "> Inb4 Pandora's boxIt was already opened in 1945, nigger> Inb4 ChinaThey won't do shit.The ONLY downside is that kikes will nuke Iran next, so he should give Iran nukes in advance to maxx out TKD
>>538675897Russia constantly tries recruiting soldiers from its "friends" and apart from a few idiots that get tricked into going, nobody is joining. Even North Korean stopped sending its prisoners there.
>>538675986>I've read "news" of Russia running out of ammunition since at least 2020.I've read news Russia is winning since the first day of the war
>>538675986>I've read "news" of Russia running out of ammunition since at least 2020.The invasion didn't start until 2022
>>538670960>people would never stop clowning it muttnigerians are barely human they clap like seals after drumpf says for the 69th time that he destroyed Iran's air and naval force.boomers and magatroons would be fine with a 20 year war with 0 advances like in Afghanistan, everything for israel
>>538670960Nuke Israel and Pogram the Jews.
>>538675966It will probably happen when Ukraine finally collapses, they only survive thanks to European money. What others say that they can't join because there is a conflict and it's against NATO rule seem to forget that those rules are not some god given physical law instead just meaningless words we made up ourselve.Zelensky believes he will get a golden membership ticket to the EU too but that will not happen for the next decades.
>>538670960Attack Georgia and fully annex it as a power move.
>>538675617sure 2 more weeks. people have been saying this for 4.5 years. wasn't true then, not true now.
>>538675966and stopping ukraine joining nato achieved what? sweden + finland now joined, and finland changed its laws to host nato nukes. fail.
>>538671307Correct.This was always the point.Dudes born and raised in 100% white culturally homogenous Soviet Union states won't accept random brown 3rd world immigrants - so they're being killed.That's why most of the dead soldiers are over age 35. Zoomers raised on English youtube won't care when niggers show up in town.The old Soviet era men are being killed.
>>538676232with what men and equipment? it's ogre.
>>538671314That would unironically stabilize the middle east. Which is why he won't do it.
>>538676114If China invaded the US from the Pacific and made it lose half its population while also taking 20% of mainland America, would you call it a defeat? Imagine the US losing 180 MILLION people after 4 years of trench warfare in California lmao, I bet you trannies would still say victory is around the corner
>>538676048Try to fight a war against a europe/jewsa backed (((state))) while fighting terrorists backed by the aforementioned faggots at the same time, retard
>>538675966Checked and correct. Due to Ukraine's geography and proximity to Russia, if they join NATO it's strategically over for them. No wonder they keep plodding away at this war, they've literally got no other choice.
>>538676266>sweden + finlandBoth easy to defend against, geographically speaking. Ukraine is not.
>>538671048Between 2-3 times more Russians have died compared to Ukrainians.This is based on the most accurate set of data available to estimating casualties: obituaries in media by officials or in social media by relatives.
>>538676322Imagine China creating a NATO copycat with Cuba, Mexico, Canada, the Bahamas and Jamaica. The US would immediately invade those countries. But noooo, Ruzzzia bad
>>538676390Good thing that the Russian population is six times higher than the Ukrainian one then
>>538676380nato weapons aren't about land invasion. it's about the missiles lined up on the border. ukraine making a russian land invasion was never a legitimate threat. it was nato missiles putin kept complaining about.
general draft
>>538676322>Due to Ukraine's geography and proximity to Russia, if they join NATO it's strategically over for them.Ukraine, despite it's geographical disadvantages and with zero NATO troops present could stop Russia though.War has changed, blitzkrieg over open fields is not really an option for anyone today if opposing side has significant amount of drones.Even the US is keeping it's distance from Iran in the current conflict there.
>>538676439Nobody is winning a war through missile bombardment alone. American bases in the Donbas and on the Dniper and it's game over for Russia.
>>538676439The baltics were long part of NATO and his stupid war made Finland join NATO too.From the baltics to Moscow is the same as from Ukraine.That's a retarded cope just like biolabs Supernazis nonsense
>>538676439>ukraine making a russian land invasionWhy not? A NATO-Russia war would almost certainly be fought with conventional armies, as Russia escalating to nukes would get Moscow and St. Petersburg nuked as well, which would immediately end their country. Every time they were invaded in past centuries, Ukraine was pivotal in creating a buffer zone between them and the West. Besides, why would they let them go? Would the US let Mexico become a Chinese puppet? After all, with its nuclear arsenal, the US should have nothing to worry about, yet the Monroe's doctrine is still alive and well
>>538676559Iran showed that American bases are a nothingburger
>>538675116How is that different from the total destruction of the Black Sea fleet and delegitimization of Russian merchant fleet caused by this war?
if putin had nuked israel on day one, it actually would have been a 3-day SMO
>>538676232>Attack Georgia and fully annex itWhy stop there, the real prize is Florida.
Fake my own assassination and retire to a secluded compound in the far East.
>>538676408Pretty much.
>>538676552>today if opposing side has significant amount of drones.Very poor thinking. What if in 10 years drone are able to be countered and manoeuvre warfare becomes a thing once again? You don't really believe we've reached the zeitgeist of warfare, do you?
>>538671282Actually accurate analysis until the completely unhinged last couple of statements.
>>538671307well its not working. ethnic minorities and muslims lead the charge, haven’t you been on the internet? russias armies are orcs, bastardized twisted races and mongoloids.or perhaps you’re just a retarded nigger who thinks jews control everything.here: a billionaire jew whose funds were confiscated by the kremlin recently.
>>538676613Iran is still getting bombed to this day. They've done a lot, but without US bases in the Middle East none of this would be happening
>>538676613This works both ways. Russia has ample missile lobbing capacity too.
>>538676426It is the advantage Putin has betting on when sending all these Russians to their deaths, yes.On the opposite side is the automation: autonomous drones and robots deployed on the battlefield don't really care about the human manpower advantages on the front anymore, only who can build and deploy more of them.And time is running against Russia there. Ukraine is receiving much of it's support from EU, which is huge and bureaucratic and infamously slow to adapt it's course but it's been ramping up production for past years and is catching up to other parties.And unlike Ukraine who is free to strike wherever it wants in Russia, Russia can't really bomb the production pipelines in Europe without escalating the conflict into a hot war with NATO.Russia will inevitably lose the war if it drags on for long.
>>538671282>Assad is now a vidya-addicted goonerKek, bullshit. He's operating an eye surgery place
>>538670960>If you were Putler how would you save face at this point /pol/?suicide by three bullets in the back of my head, before jumping out of the window
>>538676719All this is nonsense anyway since Ukraine successfully launches drones 2500km deep in to Russia and they can't do anything against it.NATO could launch missiles from Portugal to Moscow and they still couldn't do anything against it.
>>538676685I agree that it might become somewhat of a risk again but unlikely to the same degree: the importance of geography has been continuously diminishing over the centuries and even if some new capabilities are gained in future the ones we have will still remain as well.It definitely isn't a good cause for this war though: Russia is now more surrounded by hostile and aggressively militarizing NATO countries than ever before.
>>538676713>or perhaps you’re just a retarded nigger who thinks jews control everything.Lurk moar.
>>538676740Russia will inevitably nuke them if it drags for long*Russia is in the same place the US was in 1945. Japan was threatening their hegemony on their western front, when it became clear that a conventional campaign would have been too costly, they just nuked them (through careful humanitarian manners).
>>538676829okay, launch those missiles from portugal.
>>538676870> there must be a contradiction between admitting that jews are on the ropes and philo-semitism.do drugs less.
>>538676885In EU France has nukes as well.And Russia is not really that difficult to take out given it's population distribution.
>>538676829As I said, technology evolves. Why is Israel creating buffer zones? They could reach Baghdad with their buffer zones and Iran would still be able to bomb them. Someday, anti-missile technology will get better and being able to launch missiles from Ukraine will make a massive difference rather than being able to launch them from Portugal. You don't see the US allowing the Russian on Cuba, why is that if long range missiles are so good?
>>538676938*connection
>>538676983Yes! That's why Russia will never nuke NATO, even if NATO were to invade Russia with conventional armies. For this reason, it's in their strategic interests to push their borders as far away as their can, especially on flat lands. Not saying this is "good", but this is their reasoning
>>538676885>Ook nookI doubt it
>>538676885>Japan was threatening their hegemony on their western front,LmaoJapan was beaten. rest is somewhat correct.
>>538677069>it's in their strategic interests to push their borders as far away as their can,You mean "invading neighbours and stealing their land".
>>538677105>Japan was beatenThey were BEING beaten, but they far from being completely defeated
>>538676983Russia doesn't have nukes or missiles thankfully.
>>538677069Its in their strategic interests to go back behind the Ural Mountains. Lets help them to achieve that.
>>538676885>Japan was threatening their hegemony on their western front,Japan was well and truly beaten long before nukes arrived. The nukes were just a religious sacrifice ritual. Note who controls the U.S money supplyNote the fact that out of all of Japan, they picked it's two christian centersNote that "Holocaust" literally means "burnt offering". Webm very related.
>>538676426>r*ssians are disposable>>538676885>and if we lose we'll ook ook nook anywayHoly fuck you are fucking retarded.
>>538677238>>538677280> Emotional hohols unable to counterargument >>538677276It would have still taken hundreds of thousands of American casualties to retake everything Japan had occupied and conquer Japan proper through a DDay landing.
>>538677189>they were BEING beatenthen they werent threatening shit.You are correct, however. they estimated another 450k American soldiers would die to beat japan conventially. End death result for the bombs was something like 800k. >muh humanitarianmaybe they shouldnt have bombed pearl harbor if they didnt want to get bombed back.
>>538677276how come nips surrendered not right after nukes but after soviets blitzed them out of manchuria ?i don't deny jewish part though
>>538670960I would track jewlinsky and bombard him 24/7 until I had a livestream of his rat ass burned to death from my barrage. Then I'd publish it and tell all of Ukraine you are free, youre welcome.
>>538671282Retarded analysis. Chinks don't want siberia or weaken russia this is only speculationmade by dumbass who don't understand geopolitics. Do you think making your major allies weak and hate you is a good idea? The same mistake that trump trying to do is not their goal. They still need theur proxy in Europe just like they need iran >>538675966Only retards belive Ukraine going to join NATO. Do you think NATO leaders are retard to take some country who is in frozen conflict with another and trigger Article 5? Even the manlet Zen knows that which is why he wants special alliance with NATO.
>>538670960Also you NAFO troons are insufferable fucktards who cant do basic math. Russia could literally give all their male citizens bolt action 91/30s and tell them all to charge at once and still kill every person in jewkraine. How many millions did they lose in ww2 and still won the war? Jewkraine however is relying on abduction of their men to force into the meat grinder and foreign weaponry entirely. Theres no way they are going to win this war. Not with all the weapons shipments in the entire globe. Only way that changes is if they drag other nations into this war fully, and even then its iffy.
>>538671745Trench /meatgrinder warfare is usually worse for the attacker because the morale of the attacker is always much lower than the morale of the people defending their homesWar of aggression has the highest chance of succeeding if its quick and efficient, the harder and slower it is the less it becomes popular back home. Especially if its hurting the living standards of the attacker's population US used to know this once but it seems determined to keep reliving Vietnam ever since it happened
>>538677359>then they weren't threatening shitAn independent Japan would have always threated American hegemony in the Pacific, no matter how badly wounded. They were in the process of being destroyed conventionally, and the US decided to cut it loose with nukes. > Shouldn't haveUseless reasoning, how do you think the US became a power in the Pacific in the first place? They invaded Mexico in 1848 unprovoked and then they waged war on Spain in 1898 unprovoked. Great powers don't need to justify their actions (ask Iran) and Japan had no guarantees they wouldn't have been attacked by the US sooner or later.
>>538676740>On the opposite side is the automation: autonomousdrones and robots deployed on the battlefield don't really care about the human manpower advantages on the front anymore, only who can build and deploy more of them.This same thing will apply against ukraine. They would be the same victim of this killchain. If the war stops their woukd a dmz line of 30-20km fitted with sensor and drones all around. And this wars tolll has already accumulated since the warm their current population 22-25 million. Not even EU funds going stop their eventual demographics collapse and instability.
>>538677417Because the types of Russian population remaining after the savage Bolshevik perpetrated genocides before WW2 were literally worse than nuclear devastation. Japan had two choices. They could rebuild after two nukes, or they could be consumed by bolshevik slaves. Look at cities like Detroit to see that there are some weapon types you *can't* recover from, so in the end they chose the lesser of the two evils at the time.
>>538670960This war only exists to kill off the remaining pure aryan genetics in eastern europe that weren't raped out by the communists.
>>538670960This guy is the biggest retard imaginable. Why does everyone hang in his every word? It's for the fun of watching a retard, right? There's no way people follow this guy in good faith.
