just a reminder that you have to subscribe for any maintenance......holy fucking shit....you will own nothing and like it was never a meme. you fucking buy something and you never own it because you then have to subscribe to the thing you bought
>>538673995Meh, hohols figured out how to jailbreak those tractors just weeks after the concept was forced upon the farmers.
Imagine having to jailbreak a tractor
>>538674049Sure, but the fact that you have to do that is already appalling. It will only get worse in every industry
You don't like it, you can buy a tractor for 100k from china. It's just 1% less fuel efficient... of wait, you can't, because that would be a competition and the west doesn't do that. Monopolies is tge way.
mfw tractors are subscription geo-fenced machines that plant gmo seeds that have been edited to not reproduce, so you have to buy the seeds again after a harvest, sprayed with carcinogen forever chemicals that stick to your DNA
>>538674049>Meh, hohols figured out how to jailbreak those tractors just weeks after the concept was forced upon the farmers.as a guy with 6 old tractors, you basically have to jailbreak them every time you try to start them. might take a few hours to figure out what's going on, but imagine having to pay for a subscription and wait for some fucker to come out that will take days to figure out the problem? shit's toast.
why not just use an old tractor? my giga boomer neighbor does his crops with an ancient ford major.
I use a Massey Ferguson my grandfather bought to pull the rotary it's nice and easy to fix.
>>538674333You are traitor to the White Europeans for buying chinx product. Face the wall commie
>>538674253>Sure, but the fact that you have to do that is already appalling. It will only get worse in every industryi have no doubt that fucking everything will be a subscription service in the future...even if you technically own the thing outright...shit is creeping in so slowly that future generations won't even notice it. fucking hell, we pay 'property taxes' over here, which basically means you're renting your house, cars or whatever from the government. so fucking stupid.
>>538674637>to pull the rotaryare you talking about disking?
>>538674713Monopolies like John Deere and regulation that prevent any competition arisin are inefficient communism. On top of that, they make farming in thebusa inefficient and not competitive on a global market. China prefers to buy onions from brazil simply because it's cheaper. And it's cheaper because of useless freeloader like john deere and ridiculous refulations that were lobbied by john deere and green activists.Politicians and lobbyist who enabled all of this are traitors.Seriously, the wages could explain 5% difference in the price of a tractor, but not 400% margin.
>>538674426Don't forget obesity. I feel bad for laughing at Americans back then. I didn't figured out that they were more poisoned than us.
>>538674333> 100k chink tractor- 50k, and doesn't have software-locks deere-laywers preventing fixes
>>538674637Fendt clears
>>538674586Many do.
>>538674778Why do you fags have such gay names for shit?
>"Subscription service"is essentially a form of taxation, where corporations (formed and monopolized together with state bureaucrazies=fascism) acts like old feudal land owners and who wants to have a STEADY income flow from THEIR property / properties. So, you only purchase a license for a tractor, but it's de facto and (almost) de jure ownership remains at the corporation.>With any given thing the true owner of the thing is the one who has the last word over the given thing.- 4chan anon
>>538674049If you live in a corrupt slav shithole, sureTry doing that in the west where you have to pay taxes and have mandatory inspections. Even in hungary companies regularly get fucked in the ass for pirating photoshop and the like, and we are an ex-commie slav shithole
>>538675134>Why do you fags have such gay names for shit?there are rototillers and there are disks. pulling the rotary is not even a thing as far as i know.
>>538675146If this would be stated out looud, that de facto and de jure you only purchase a license - no one with half a brain would never agree to pay FULL PRICE. This is all such a scam. picrel1/3
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>>538675236They are all called tines or teeth not discs.>Not a thingAre you retarded it was invented in Australia and sold as a rotary cultivator world wide.Go home Steven you are too drunk for this larp today.
Buy a Kubota
>>538675324>Go home Steven you are too drunk for this larp today.haha. larping about disking is insane, but whatever. all i did was ask you a question about what you meant by pulling the rotary. i was pretty sure i knew but still wanted to ask.
>>538674253>but the fact that you have to do that is already appallingThe person you're replying to is a subservient conservative cuckold. They all respond like that to any institutional and structural top-down issues and injustices. They instruct you not to get mad or to agitate for change, and instead accept the new status quo. If you want to avoid the latest tyrannical policy, it is in YOU to expose yourself to risk by jailbreaking, stealing, sneaking, and any other solution that puts the onus and risk onto you for dissent. Oh some new bullshit policy for tractors and farmers? Just risk legal trouble and the total destitution and destruction of your livelihood by committing crimes to avoid the tyranny, bro! And if you say anything about this or disagree with this solution, that makes you the pussy, the asshole, the unpatriotic leftist tranny, etc etc. They jump in front of every bullet for Jewish power and are the first ones to defend globohomo surveillance kike capitalism by demanding you the individual to eat shit and ask for more.
>>538675440Disking sounds as foreign to me as pulling a rotary does to you it seems.A rototiller is a little push cultivator in Australia a rotary is a shorthand for rotary hoe.
>>538673995So wait, JD attempted to do the same bullshit that BMW tried?
>>538673995Just buy one from Lukashenka
>>538675615>A rototiller is a little push cultivator in Australiasame here> in Australia a rotary is a shorthand for rotary hoe.whatever. when i say disking, pic related is what i'm talking about
>old tractorsimple and easy to repair yourself, often has a compartment for a few tools to fix or at least apply a bandaid in the field>new tractorsthat one single sensor out of billions, specifically for sensing frogfarts the next county over failed? too bad buddy, the whole machine is now inoperable, better call for transport to ship it to a brand dealer 8 hours away just to fix a loose wire, and then ship it back to you a week later, charging you for everything of course because fuck your crops, our mechanics got to eat :^)get an old tractor before they get outlawed for not draining you of cash
>>538674100You wouldn't download a tractor
>>538675880Pulling a rotary hoe.Check the patent there is no discs on it it's called a tooth so disking sounds odd.
>>538676043bro, i'm just trying to figure out if we're talking about the same thing. fucking hell.
>>538673995>congrats on your 500k tractor bro!!!!!>replacement parts jacked up to dozens of thousandsthis is how these assholes get around that right to repair in household appliances it's not an exception to have a part cost half of what a new device would costand in case of tractors it's that much worse, because you can't easily manufacture some seals or special heat treatment parts
>>538676091And Iam shitstiring outta slackness.
>>538674333>you can buy a tractor for 100k from chinayou can't cause they don't meet "emission standards"and the standards are lobbied by the wesetern manufacturers Belorusians have simple, efficient machines, but eurocucks can't buy them
>>538673995The problem here is there is not enough adequate competition because of trade protectionism. John deere is perfectly within its right to build and sell complicated machines that require specialized maintenance, however farmers have every right to not buy them, and purchase simpler tractors. At least, that is how it is supposed to work in a free market. End the protectionism to put an end to this silliness.
>>538673995Fix it your fucking self you pussy.I grew upon a farm. We used a 1945 Ford Tractor until 2015. We maintained it through not just ordering parts from manufacturers but networks of fabricators and machinists. I know this is like an extremely daunting task in 2026 but figure it the fuck out and quit being a pussy. We kept that thing running by buying the raw materials necessary and giving them to machinists and manufacturers who we paid to repair it.
>>538674871> I didn't figured out that they were more poisoned than us.We cut off the end of our kids dicks here.Think about that.
>>538676192Okay and now the replacement part must be paired with whatever hwid and software checks for the machine to even turn on. How will you fix it yourself?
>>538676192here people just bring their old stuff to local polytechnic schools for near free repairs and for yongsters to practice on.t. restored couple of tractor axles as a machinist learner back in the day.
>>538673995They don't have a model where you pay for a one time only maintenance service? Otherwise what's the issue here?>>538674049What do you mean jailbreak a tractor lil bro? So you're not allowed to fix your own tractor?
>>538676332Then learn to code and hack or pay someone who can? The only concern you should have is if on an insurance claim they discover you allowed unspecified modifications to the tractor.I fucking hate post-analog society too, retard. But what am I gonna do? Lay down and die? Adapt and overcome or accept a slow extinction.
>>538674637Based Massey Ferguson chad>>538674946Based Fendt chad>>538675074Based Lamborghini chad
>>538676356>They don't have a model where you pay for a one time only maintenance service? Otherwise what's the issue here?no it's yearly and you have to send it to them for repairs you retard
>>538676506>Then learn to code and hack or pay someone who can?lol, lmao even. "Just hack it bro!" "just write your own firmware bro!" "just replace all the electronics bro!"The average person is not going to jump through an absurd amount of hoops and will end up taking it up the ass. This is where every industry is going.>But what am I gonna do? Lay down and die? Adapt and overcome or accept a slow extinction.You push for legislation such as right to repair.
>>538675440Australians are retarded. That's why their entire culture is getting BTFO by gorilla brained abbos.
>>538676804And what if you fix it yourself/have someone else fix it other than them, what happens?
>>538676915You have more niggers than we have population and our countries are roughly the same size.
>>538677297tractor gets locked by the software then they sue you
>>538677346Should we give a fuck that braindead retards are getting into these contracts? It seems similar to retards voting retards who hate them into power.
>>538677346You can start every car on earth regardless of the electronics with a flathead screwdriver in my experience tractor are even easier to dodgey rig.
>Trying to explain things to thirdiesSigh. I live about 35 min from John Deere and wish them nothing but fire.
John Deere will go the way of the F35 and buy glorious Scania tractors insteadPeople are waking up to the mutts' insidious kill switches
>>53867492550k for a tractor would be way too antisemitic. It should be treated as a hate crime.
>>538677298Yes, but even the most smooth brained nigger is still 15 IQ points smarter than your average abbo. Which isn't saying much really. All the petrol abbo's keep sniffing isn't doing you guys any favors and you keep letting them do it.
>>538677698Want to try that post again only coherent?Fucking moosejawed Swedes think anyone cares about some scando shit.
This was always farmers own fault though, they buy a john deere tractor. It comes with a subscription and you pay ransom money to start it. They will charge you $10.000 for remote diagnostics, without even repairing the tractor.You know all this and you bought it over a Kubota or Mahindra tractor why exactly? When companies become too large they reach critical enshittification, customers are then supposed to flee to other brands and the company dies. You dont buy a john deere and HOPE one day they wont charge you $10.000 for over the phone diagnostics
>>538677378>Should we give a fuck?No, john deere has slick salesman visiting ranches, ranchers are convinced to pay 10X for their (((brand))) and a subscription, and ransom money or it wont start, and its more expensive to repair than an aircraft carrier, and you cant repair it yourself or the machine bricks itself.Its all the farmers own fault, they should shoot john deere sales reps as soon as one enters the property
On the way down, the only People individuals who will own something will ironically be the Chinese people whos government larps as commie! We who larp as democratic and Republics but are actually run by faschist commies will own nothing and be Genocided. Remember, we are being genocided, do you see people creating families and having homes and futures and good medical access... non poisoned food and water... No.Funny how that worked out! In deeds. Don't bother listening to words, deeds, data and faults Only.
>>538677969I that's because they take a loan to buy it, pay the loan or lose the tractor. In the meantime they have to maintain it properly because it's their collateral on the loan. Once they own it outright John Deere won't give a fuck if it's never maintained
On average farmers get about 56k in welfare from the gobment.They didn’t pay for those tractors. You did.The agriculture industry is one of the most fake and gay there is.
>>538674637MF master race
>>538678169Oh and they all CLEANED UP with PPP “loans” during the plandemic.
>>538678095I'm so tired of everything being a nigger subscription nowadays. Even if you buy a new car, they put specialized plastic bolts and coverings over the oil well and battery so you can't even change your own oil or replace your own battery without having to take it to the kike dealership where they can upcharge you. It's all so very tiresome....
>>538678169And they import immigrants, the farming lobbies are extremely pro immigration
>>538678237Massey Ferguson can suck my 1983 international harvester dick.
>>538673995We used to have better farming equipment, all you had to do was feed them fried chicken and watermelons.
>>538678302And if the Jews in charge get busted guess what? They get a pardon.
>>538673995i love it when npc's wonder why no one wants to plant crops and work the fields anymore. nigga i can buy a mc mansion for half a million or open a restaurant which will feed me and future generations for eternity. i aint subscribing to your 500.000 goydeer
>>538673995Why are people still constantly surprised when Capitalists do Capitalism? And worse yet why do these braindead retards keep blaming communism for capitalist practices?
>>538678437not sell potatoes for 25 cents a kilo like a peasant
Don’t worry bros a benevolent Jew bought them and I’m sure there are no more Mexicans or East Africans being shipped in.
>>538678454John Deere and “family farmers” (they’re not they don’t really exist anymore) get MASSIVE amounts of tax breaks and subsidies every single year.Those dudes driving 500k tractors are some of the biggest welfare queens around.
Notice how 77 percent of the population is “white” but 32 percent of the population is Mexican?Yeah it do be like that.
>>538678567And yet curiously thats one form of entitlement and welfare you never hear anyone suggest we cut. You will even hear Republicans actively simp for it.
>>538678792Yup. I wonder why?The new owners of agriprocessor are also one of the largest producers of plastic trash in the world.
>>538676822Did I say don't push for legislation, retard?
>>538674333FUCK chinks.That's it. That's the post.
>>538674333You really don’t understand how advanced these big tractors are. I’m pretty sure these come with automatic field protocols so farmers can set them and leave for the day to go do other things. Chinks aren’t gonna be able to match that. I hate JD but I don’t fault them for the price.
>>538676192Nowhere near the same scale or use case as what these types are being used for.
>>538678392Mistreatment of cattle is allowed because it's practicing their religion
>>538673995Buy a Fent gaydeere is shit inefficiënt
>>538680842Not just cattle. Hey what do they call us again?Oh yeah. Cattle.
Tractors will be going away soon, anyway. All that stuff will be going away.
>>538680744>how advanced these big tractors are.such as?
>>538680984Soon brother.
>>538681026>such as?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUXX318bqw8The fucker goes out and works without a human operator.Nobody is paying a subscription on a fucking riding mower, you cretin, and OP doesn't actually own tens of millions of dollars worth of modern industrial scale farm equipment.
>>538681026Reread my message. They are very specialized equipment
>>538680842The old testament has a bunch of rules against treating cows bad, it specifically says not to bridle them or prevent them eating and that cows and ox don't have to work on the Sabbath.
>>538681347Also every single part has a sensor and a fucking chip and getting back to the main issue you can’t fix them yourself. But it doesn’t matter because the tax payer is on the hook for that half million dollar abomination.
>>538681571Cool story.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KezHKbUzy0AIs that before or after penile mutilation?
I think it's time we gave John Deere a dear john
>>538680984Yeah....This really is the end times isn't it?
>>538681633Tldr you are handicapped.
>>538681577Pretty sure if (You) actually had tens of thousands of acres of farmland you were trying to harvest and were dealing with gross sales of 5-11 million a year on that farm $4,200 a year for the autonomous software license isn't breaking your budget and seems significantly cheaper than paying a human operator.BUT if the whole thing upsets you that much and you really need a 600+ HP tractor, have you considered the Versatile 620, the Case IH Steiger 645, Fendt 1100 Vario MT (where the cost of software maintenance is front-loaded when you buy)?How many acres do you own and what sort of crops do you grow and harvest?
>>538682039Have you considered letting the free market decide? How about we get allowed to buy the shit produced for cheap by the nation we outsourced our manufacturing base to? You fat kike loyalist
>>538682039I already posted it up here faggot. >>538678309I have goats chickens turkeys and three pigs. I grow veggies and do a farmers market.3.71 acres for our little “hobby farm” but hey fuck you welfare queen.
>>538682039Reagan killed the family farm and anything that’s left is just a Monsanto John Deere subsidiary growing beans and corn for shekel’s and subsidies. Fuck your monoculture garbage you tax dollar gobbling bitch.
>>538678392>Jew brings in illegals and fleeces the public>Gets rightfully punished>Pardoned by Trump for being a chosenite
>>538682039You’re going to pay probably 24k-28k a year for a five year lease on a new John queere, plus software and repairs so we’ll say ~$35k sound about right? Fuck you welfare queen. We’re paying for your new tractor and combine.
>>538682486A member of the New York tunnel soiled mattress chosenites no less.
Isn't this a victory in the OP??
>>538673995Listen the UK has its problems (pic related) but at least our entire country isn't utterly and completely bent over by corporations like the US are.
>>538674253breadbasket farmboy here. only big dick wannabe douchebags buy brand new shit. every normal person uses old shit from the 90's which is completely up to snuff and you can work on them like you do a lawnmower.
Tradecucks cucked once again, should have gone to college instead! Sad!
>>538682203>Have you considered letting the free market decide?John Deere's market share isn't cratering over this because their automated and integrated fleets are the best product and value for the large scale operations.>>538682257>I have goats chickens turkeys and three pigs.>I grow veggies and do a farmers market.>3.71 acres for our little “hobby farm”And you need a 650 horsepower autonomous GPS smart-tractor for that? >>538682606>You’re going to pay probably 24k-28k a year for a five year lease on a new John queere, plus software and repairs so we’ll say ~$35k sound about right?I think you're missing the point that a half a million dollar 650 horsepower autonomous tractor is meant to be part of a fully integrated fleet of machines that manages tens of thousands of acres. On those scales the fuel, seed, and fertilizer savings due to the precision of the autonomous operation can easily top 100,000 a year straight to the bottom line.>We’re paying for your new tractor and combine.How much federal taxes did you pay last year? Post pic of your tractor with timestamp.
>>538674333you don't have to buy chink trash, every real farmer just runs 20-30 year old machines that a high school kid can work on. only billionaire show off cunts buy the brand new shit.
>>538673995>John Deere makes all internals a labyrinthine convoluted maze that requires hundreds of hours of training to navigate>any unauthorized maintenance voids your warranty instantlyRossman still lost. Companies will just adapt.
