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Whoever created this universe coded two things in;

1)Suffering being the default mode for all beings. Meaning you're endlessly suffering if you remain idle and your entire life you will battle against suffering

2)No chance of escape. You cannot destroy matter or energy. It's recycled indefinitely. Meaning when you die you Instantly reincarnate in a new body that will get tortured again.

Humanity's main goal should be to destroy all life on earth and end the suffering. You cannot win this game
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what's with meds wanting to lay around and do nothing all the time as if it's the pinnacle of existence?? Get a life dummies!
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>>538704460
everything came from nothing anon, you literally can never escape.

the universe created you just to suffer and die for all eternity, forcing you to reincarnate with no memories every time so the pain and suffering are always fresh and you can never build up a tolerance to it, and so you have start off each life with hope and dreams to be crushed and destroyed.

it really is wonderful isnt it?
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>>538704460
Yea… I remember my first time reading Schopenhauer too
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>>538704460

>endless suffering
>no chance of escape

every single time
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you'll only get reincarnated as a lonely alien porn addict. you can not end the suffering
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>>538704844
stop posting antisemitic images as a christian anon, you are a spiritual kike
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>>538704460
>Meaning you're endlessly suffering if you remain idle and your entire life you will battle against suffering
Haha yeah can you imagine?
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>>538704460
>You cannot destroy matter or energy. It's recycled indefinitely. Meaning when you die you Instantly reincarnate in a new body that will get tortured again.
could not your body be turned into soil and your consciousness dissipated into heat energy that eventually hurls into space?
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>>538704779
The man understood man is meat and meat rots
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>>538704460
Or, you're the universe experiencing itself?
So your only doing these things to yourself.
So the universe has to first exist then produce, you can only be the universe. When you talk about god? You're talking about the universe and its default state.
Complaining about yourself really.
Maybe thats why everyone keeps getting bogged down in the cycle.
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You were born during the holocene, count your blessings
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>>538704460
>2)No chance of escape. You cannot destroy matter or energy. It's recycled indefinitely.
>Meaning when you die you Instantly reincarnate in a new body that will get tortured again.
Retarded leap of logic there, kys
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>>538704460
Might makes right, prove me wrong. You only suffer if you choose too. If you are sad, act.
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>>538704460
Gnostics say that you can if you have the proper knowledge, your soul won’t be recycled.
They believe Jesus had this knowledge and ascended. Gnosticism actually pretty weird once you learn about it abit, like it originates from like 200ad, it explains the npc theory and it’s basically an early simulation theory. Idk tho..
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>>538704844
>worship a dead jew, or else YOU are a jew
you guys lost the plot decades ago
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>>538704460
>he thinks suffering is exclusive to the physical mortal realm

Lol....lmao even...... suffering is just a signal kid, information
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>>538704460
there is no player, thats the hack
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>>538704460
Well the jews are already trying to do that so looks like we won't have a choice
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>>538704460
It's curious that everyone in the profatalist movement is either dead or in jail except for the guru guiding them down the path of self destruction. I still have that guy's suicide note /manifesto saved.
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>>538704460
Being idle is fantastic. It's in reality what most people stive for.
Not seeing the suffering you speak of.
Sounds like a personal problem
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The Erected Obelisk therefore represents dominion seized, considering the sun doesn't set on this Animal Farm in veneration to the men of Oz

These staged billionaires, ministers....politicians; a means of narrative building, PR; the gradual acclimation for slaves to accept the world that is to cum

You will swallow and you will be happy
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>>538704941
a jew cries out in pain as he strikes you
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Are Jews agents of Archons?

BTW if you die you need to avoid going into the nice feeling light. Turn around and go to the dark until you find the exit.
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>>538705338
I think they run the world rn. frankist judaism cult. they are pretty fatalistic and fucked up. the whole lets force god to send measiah by making more evil till he is sick of it.
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>>538704692
Is he going to be okay?
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>>538704460
Yeah
Just go with the flow. Thats what I do.
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>>538704460
>when someone whose retard family abandoned their family owned land for life in the city is allowed to post
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>>538704460
Why do you spam this same thread over and over?
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>>538705244
The hippies lost the plot and did everything the Jew wanted them to, including abandoning Christianity. Now we have retards like you pretending not to know that contemporary Jews are all descended from the Pharisees who hated Christ and as a result the modern Jew is determined to blot out Christianity.
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>>538705484
light is your mind, but yeah, still attaches you, not much you can do after you die, you will be like in a dream not like now where you have focused will and choice easy. its more what you did during the life that might make a difference. Kinda too late then bro.
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>>538704460
Ok, kill yourself then.
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>>538704460
If you can enjoy the moment, you will never suffer
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>>538704460
> Suffering being the default mode for all beings.
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>>538704460
you WILL be dismembered by entropy
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>>538704460
But by your claim "destroying all life on Earth" just leads to more suffering? Jerk off to more Eroge in your stepfather's toolshed to escape Samsara, bucktoothed faggot
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>>538705562
Because he's a jeet and getting people to kill themselves is the ultimate scam. He could retire on the accumulated izzat if he's successful.
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>>538704460
you are probably viewing the universe through the narrow lens of classical equilibrium thermodynamics, assuming a closed, decaying system tending toward heat death.
that is a fundamental miscalculation of cosmic mechanics and whats actually going on.
so consider non equilibrium thermodynamics, according to it, entropy is the engine of complexity and while total entropy increases, life thrives precisely within local gradients where energy flows.
so what you call suffering is simply the metabolic work required to maintain low entropy states against the universal gradient.
so to exist is to dissipate, and "struggle" is the very mechanism that allows organized structures to emerge from chaos.
without that tension between order and disorder there would be nothingness not even something to suffer.
also per plasma cosmology and based on empirical observations the universe is not passive matter drifting in an empty vacuum, turns out the universe is filled with plasma and is driven by massive electromagnetic currents that constantly inject potential into systems and reenergizing matter across vast scales.
so you see the universe is electrically dynamic and not just thermally dissipative.
so your goal of total destruction assumes a finite game when its actually infinite and if it is an infinite universe fueled by these electromagnetic injections then attempting to destroy all life is like trying to empty the ocean with a thimble.
you think you can win? you cant.
the universe is inexhaustible.
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Get off your fat ass, go get some exercise, stop eating dogshit, and go to church.
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>>538704460
It's a fallen world since Adam ate the apple and death was introduced.

It all will be restored. Eventually.
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>>538704460
>The literal baby eating demonic monsters committing global omnicide want you to believe that Nature is the problem.
You're a kike and your "people's" days are numbered.
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>>538704844
Christkikes are the ultimate nihilists bruv
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>>538704460
As is customary.
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>>538704460
I could take being eaten by a lion, but by a hyena is just embarrassing.
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>>538704460
>Humanity's main goal should be to destroy all life on earth and end the suffering. You cannot win this game
How very jewish of you. I can feel sorry for the Zebra in this case because I like animals, but the Lion is not acting in an "evil" way by feeding itself. You "OP" can project your feelings onto this naturally occurring event, but don't expect non-kikes to agree with your distorted talmud view of the world.
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>>538705562
He fishin'
Looking for meaning, hoping he can explain why his people are the most hated in the world.
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>>538705606
>the modern Jew is determined to blot out Christianity.

retarded cope, christians are the jews biggest collaborators when it comes to things like importing third world rapists and murderers to your local neighborhood.

this is because christianity is a woke religion

to be a good christian you cannot hate brown people or jews. it's in the fucking bible.
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>>538705734
Yes, but I think this guy is right though.
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>>538704779
Yup and he isn't wrong.
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>>538705559
I feel personally attacked.
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hrm idk
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>>538704460
you either eat or be eaten, it's known. Just seek power, and be the one eating.
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>>538705991
why? posting Penrose as proof only works if you assume the universe adheres perfectly to idealized, closed system mathematical models.
but math is just an abstraction, a derivative of reality. it isn't reality itself.
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>>538704460
It's no more a torture chamber if you're born as a human, the universe gave you a special gift being able to create your life as a hell or heaven that's all up to you, if you understand how your nervous system, brain and reality works like you will realize how all this time you've been fooled to stay away from the greatest gift that you ever received having admin controls over reality.
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>>538704460
>No chance of escape
What do you think death is? If we sterilize the whole planet, there will be nowhere to reincarnate into :)
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>>538704460
It's a game of luck, it's why you always need to keep a gun or a cyanide pill near you just in case things go horribly wrong and you want to quit the game.
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>>538705457
Cope.
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>>538706558
Ohoho anon.... if you sterilize the whole planet guess what nothing will happen because the universe is infinite and doesn't adhere to our time measurements, you're going to be reborn in a complete different timeline. You see there are already infinite timelines where you're either dead or whole planet is destroyed
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All I see is intelligent design
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>>538704460
>hyena
Brutal. A lot of predators have the good grace to kill their prey, but some creatures are just cruel by nature.
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>>538704460
>Suffering being the default mode for all beings.
Untrue. This is a projection by antagonistic or judaized humans.
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Lowest IQ post I've read all week
>when you die you Instantly reincarnate
No such thing, when you die its lights out forever.
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Hyena wife
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>>538707487
When you break a screen the PC is dead. When you hammer a radio, the station goes quiet.
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>>538707312
>the universe

Freemason fiction
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>>538705614
They'll guilt trip you about loved ones and unfinished business on earth. That's how they'll trick you.
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>>538707545
Consciousness is the only thing that even exists.
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>>538707615
Stop being evil and what will they trick you with?
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>>538707545
>When you break a screen the PC is dead
Doesn't it?
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>>538707595
Jews are what we consider neanderthals. Cannibal molemen, no frontal lobe and thus no empathy.
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Communist can solve all this. But you are too selfish and stupid for it.
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>>538707595
Then tell me what do you consider to be true?
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>>538707701
Neanderthals are a freemasonic fabrication to establish credibility for evolution. Which is also a fable.
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>>538704460
Tell me why humans practically didnt suffer as huther gatherers or in tribes and suffering began only with civilization and centralized bureaucracy?
If we are meant to suffer even apes should suffer.
What about native americans ? Hunt bison all year smoke pipe and fuck women. You even have cases of white poeple running away with certain types of indians.

This in fact proves we are not meant to suffer and demiurge shit is just a cope for a shitty life imposed by narcisists.
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>>538704460
When an atom or molecule reacts with another atom or molecule, one of the two eats the other one.
Welcome to materialism. The key to not suffering is not locking yourself into materialism. Suffering is material, not the greater purpose.
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>>538704460
God works in mysterious ways :D
Griste is Ging :DDDDD
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>>538707949
Devolution is real and jews like kissinger look like different species.
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>>538704460
HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
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>>538708148
>didnt suffer as huther gatherers
the fuck they didn't you retard
you could die a terribly painful protracted death for 99 reasons, from animal attack to a rotten tooth
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>>538704460
>Suffering
>Rebirth

8 Fold Path dumbass they figured this out 2500 years ago
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>>538704460
>Meaning when you die you Instantly reincarnate in a new body that will get tortured again
That's your opinion. You have no proof of that.
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Biology is eat or be eaten, simple.

Any "right" or "wrong" associated with the animal impulses are imposed interpretations.

Higher organisms create societies which have rules. Higher minds develop philosophy, religion, ethics, etc. to try to justify these rules.
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>>538704460
Damn, that Heyena's having a feast. He should share.
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>>538708636
Humans are animals too moron. We just gave ourselves a “special title”
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>>538708407
You had less cavities due to natural diet. And if you died you died. You lived a greater life even if you died at 25 compared to a whole lifetime now.
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>>538709069
Bullshit. STFU retard.
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>>538709133
>everyone just suffered and died before taxes and bureaucrats
Keep coping mutt. Go work your 60 hours for food and shelter while hunther gatherer works 15 tops.

Look at nigger tribes in shitholes teeth are all good and no one seems seriosly ill at 20. Even older poeple dont look that bad.
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>>538704941
>>538705244
>>538705803
lol look at you kikes seethe. The demon ass worms are controlling your finger tips. Stop your sodomy fetish and return to Christ you faggots
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>>538704460

not true some people win at life at birth because of genetics and/or who their parents are

all comes down to luck really, but then humans want to apply some just world fallacy bs to reconcile what they see with their own moral framework is formed based on their genetics/environment in the first place
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>>538707487
Source: my ass
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>>538708148
of course they suffered. probably far worse because of the lack of pain meds. Imagine being a hunter and you break a limb with no way of setting it or casting it up. You might as well just jump off a cliff.
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>>538704460
you misunderstand what pain and suffering actually is. It's simply a mechanism for us to want to avoid death long enough to reproduce. It's not an inherently bad or evil thing to inflict or to feel. Or at least it wouldn't be except for that we have empathy. But animals don't have that
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>>538704460
I thoroughly enjoy seeing baby monkeys suffer and die.
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>>538704460
>Meaning when you die you Instantly reincarnate in a new body that will get tortured again.
Nah you get a choice, to do it or not, not how or when as time does not exist. Also, chances are, you'll come back as an chink or jeet male. Best to stay in heaven or the gem world with your acquired memories for a while, even if it gets boring.
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>>538704779
I've come to similar conclusion myself without reading anything.
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>>538704844
Not this shit again, fuck off you eager slave of a kike deity.
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>>538704460
Or you just could prevent suffering but you have to be a fatalistic basedjak 3rd world bitch about it.
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>>538707487
>when you die its lights out forever
Like before birth. Nothing forever sounds incredible but unfortunately it's wishful cope.
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>>538709988
>no way of setting it or casting it up.
You can literaly do it with vines and sticks. But I guess you belive poeple were retarded in the past and didnt know how a bone should look.
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Yeah life is varying degrees of suffering but imagine the sense of relief when you die and wake up.
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>>538709926
There is scientific papers around 2014 describing how the consciousness arose from the micro tubules on the brain, when the brain dies you cease to exist. But of course I expect too much from uncultured swines here. Tell me anon how magically you transfer a consciousness from one brain to another, I will wait.
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>>538708636
Higher minds discovered those things, they didn't invent them. Truth is objective, thus everything that pertains to truth is objective.
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>Not this shit again
>spam the same shit again
you are brown
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>>538704460
The hiena is having fun
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Problem of evil hasnt been solved but normies are still having children. Not giving a fuck.
Truly sickening shit to bring someone into this world.
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>>538707293
>aislop jeetnigger
i know you rabble is incapable of posting your own sources, but at least try harder
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>>538704460
Indeed, the only escape is faith and hope, until we die, unless we become faithless and accursed like the majority of people
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>>538704460
>The universe is a torture chamber
You're a retarded baby
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>>538710195
The Epicurean Paradox doesn't imply what you think it does. To even posit evil to begin with as an idea requires the concept of a god. Morality has no objective grounding without god.
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>>538710587
>Morality has no objective grounding without god.
Source?
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>>538704460
>No chance of escape
The Tathagata has shown you the way out, anon.
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>>538704460
Maybe it's because I am a libra. But, everything is life equals out. There has to be balance. balance is the only thing in existence that marks the checks.
For all the bad you have had in your life, there will be the equal amount of good. No one can deny that. Anyone who tells you, they have only had a terrible life are completely denying the good times they enjoy often.
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>>538707487
I also belive that. Lets say you die now. In this timeline there are more niggers and pajeets as babies. How are you suposed to get reincarnated as a 100 iq white guy in a 70 iq nigger. Its like trying to install gta 5 on 32 bit windows 95 hardware. Simply doesnt work.
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>>538704687
read Industrial Society and its Future
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>>538704460
I wonder why lions and tigers go for the throat to gift a relatively quick and painless death, where hyenas go straight for the genitals and guts, truly the niggers of the savannah
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>>538704460
This, nuke the planet into oblivion and end the rebirth
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>>538704460
>jackal is white euroaches
>zebra is indigenous people

Now you know how the world feels
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>>538705313
So, if that blue demon is so high and mighty about that shit he surely wont mind if I kill him, right? Its all pointless blah blah blah anyways, right?
They always hate when you chimp out.
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Humanity's current goal is to break the cycle
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>>538710921
didn't you people exterminate 90 million indigenous people during the 1600's great dying? then you helped recreate israel. truly the hyenas and white devils of the world
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>>538710991
can't unless you break the white devil axis of euroach-usa-israel
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>>538705175
This retard gets it
At the end of the day it's consciousness playing with itself
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>>538710951
Mara would love for you to murder and roll in your filth
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>>538704844
>God could have built a universe without suffering
>Chose not to
What did (((He))) mean by this?
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>>538710991

How do you know that?
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>>538704460
Medically speaking, what's the cause of death in such situation? Serious question
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>>538710730
You think that way because you're a lazy fucking midwit.
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>>538711060
Nobody really cares about your jeet bullshit.
Its eternal suffering because it was written by jeets who know nothing else.
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>>538710258
What would even be point of it. It would make some sense if poeple could acumulate kwnolege of previos lifes this is just stupid.
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>believe you live in prison planet
>you now live in prison planet
>omg why did the jews did this!
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>>538711046
It's mostly European organizations trying to find alternatives to archaic survival mechanisms. Not that they're currently optimal but that humanity is at least seeking a solution to begin.
>>538711078
I know the humans with the most sentience are greater empaths. Though most humans are still animals adjacent to bugs. The real question is what can be done with them?
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>>538710692
If you're going to bring up conceptual things like morality and evil, you have to ground it in some way. No one is going to take your word for what "evil" even is if you can't reference it in a way that makes it objective and true.
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>>538704460

Mankind is absent the inherent innocence underlying the brutal horror of nature

THIS is the biblical level hubris of man

I tried repenting but god literally isnt there
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>>538711315
pilpul
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>>538710410
No, post your little scientific paper which you pretend discovered the origin of consciousness. It's EXTREMELY weird to suggest such a thing and not link it. Show your evidence, coward.
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>>538705175
A part of me refuses to believe this because not in a million zillion years would I subject myself to such torture, not even for fun. If I am God I would be right now in a beautiful fantasy world and not this niggerfied jewish world.
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>>538709659
>call them kikes and tell them to worship a kike
so odd that you think this will work.
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>>538705243
It's a heresy based on the arrogant belief that you can become God. Anyone drawn to it is necessarily an incredible narcissist.
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>>538710995
Stfu nigger
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>>538704687
Sitting in a cafe and drinking the same coffee for 4 hours while discussing literally every aspect life is the evolution of the ancient agora. You are welcome to join, nord.
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>>538704941
I hate you jeets more than anything. You do so much damage to my people
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Lol jews and fat autistic nigger so mad that Jesus Christ (who is God) conquered death. Whatch the cope because the refusal of personal responsibility.
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>>538707545
Your brain is the PC dumbass.
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>>538711094
Blood loss, but you'll be passing out from pain before it fully happens. Just go into full shock and you won't feel death's grip anymore.
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>>538711315
>My nervous system is in distress due to your intentional action or inaction, please stop, it's causing me suffering
> Bro what even IS suffering, like fr fr? How can you prove to me objectively that it's somehow "evil" for me to just kick you in the balls over and over because the noises you make are funny? Bro what even *is* pain? Can you prove I'm hurting you somehow?
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>>538705244
Kike bot/jeet army. Been making the same posts day after day after day for a decade
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>>538705236
1. There's always someone bigger meaner more insidious. Even hyenas get tapeworms hanging out their ass from eating carrion.
2. Everybody either dies prematurely or gets old and falls apart in the most distressing manner before one gets eaten by maggots. Even the mighty, the wealthy, the beautiful.
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>>538705970
>>538707293
I’m going to kill every jeet I can get my hands on on the day of the rope
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>>538705530
Asmongold, living the dream.
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>>538704460
so was /pol/ a heretic gnostic thread all this time?
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>>538711760
Surrendering your agency as a man by worshipping demagoguery on video is the most cucked shit you can do.
WONT SOMEONE PLEASE THINK FOR THEMSELVES HOLY FUCK DUDE NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY THE FACE OF GOD IS WEEPING.
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>libtards believe "the circle of life" is a rainbow colored song from the lion king cartoon.
that webm is literally the circle of life
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fucking retards still feeding the 1pbtid greek engangement time wasting none /pol related questions faggot IN FUCKING MID 2026. you are all retarded fags. Jannies do your unpaid job. hop hop
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>>538704460
Suffering is a part of being alive, and it's only a tiny part of the experiences you are expected to receive here, anon, and there are much more to life than just this. You can have joy with your true friends, you can view beautiful landscapes with your loved one and see this light in her eyes when she looks at you, you can spend time with your parents and see how just your presence and well-being make them happy, you can witness the birth of your own child and see how it grows and becomes a smaller copy of you, you can achieve something you were chasing and just feel good about the acomplishment, even just eating the tasty food can make the life brighter. You just need to see the whole life in full, not just focus on the dark side of it.
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>>538704460
Every single action that anyone takes in this life is done out of desperation. This is the most damning thing that religious people and new agers and whatnot will never address or confront with clarity. Nobody is actually able to do what they truly want in a world that is governed by entropy and decay. Even the act of reproduction is the ultimate act of existential desperation. "I'm gonna die, so I need to copy myself to keep the chain going for a little while longer, only to do the same thing over and over again with no end goal". Free will isn't real, you are all just desperate apes shitting your pants with fear and pretending like you have some brave philosophical reason for doing what you do.
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Animal suffering is one of the strongest arguments against Christianity.

Sure, humans maybe deserve natural disasters and childhood leukemia because we sinned against God and live in a fallen world, but how do you explain why animals suffer?

Why is the continuation for almost on life on this planet predicated on killing and eating another life? Why couldn't God have made all animals photosynthetic?
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>>538711956
This guy's got it figured out
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>>538711853
There's nothing heretical about questioning things, your jewish imaginary friend is fragile like you are. Simply put this life is filled with too much pain, torture, suffering, betrayal, and evil to have been made by a good loving being. The very code of existence is fundamentally painful here in this material prison cage. Suffering is default, pleasure is optional and like winning a lottery.
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>>538711973
Christianity never made any sense. Does it make any sense a God where every dead Eskimo is burning in hell because he didn't have the chance to convert to Christianity? Does it make any sense a God that "choses" a people above all? Lmao
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>>538711956
Not everyone has such luxury to experience the good side of being alive.
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>>538712095
Based Strykalo appreciator
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>>538705236
>titten
>gnaaaaa!

(i'm so fucking old)
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>>538705313
This guy gets it.
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>>538704692
A wheelbarrow of liquefied nigger. That's it. I've seen it all now
Why did they do that to him?
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>>538712362
>Why did they do that to him?
They'll sell it to Harrod's
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>>538712187
Not everyone is supposed to get the same experiences. There is no spiritual communism, where each deserves the same fate. Perhaps depends on one's karma, previous experience, or the divine consciousness that is behind the particular being. Who knows
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>>538712283
Spotify showed me them after listening to Poshlaya Molly. The song in screencap is what I belted and sobbed to a month ago when my kitty had to be euthanized. Bad times.
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>>538711956
You tell it like its some kind of lesson which it isnt. Your country is at war and Im sure it makes it more fun and makes you fell alive.
During the war here average bar had more life than entire country has now. But it will pass and bureaucrats will come and drain the life force out of you.
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>>538712283
Also:
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>>538708148
>>didn't suffer?

nothing but suffering. And when you got too old to participate in the vast wanderings after game they were either abandoned or cannibalized. The myth of Windigo was a cope for dealing with conking toothless old granny (35 years old?) and then eating her late in the dreadful famine of late winter; you didn't do it, a demonic figure haunting the miserable north possessed you to do it. This is how you dealt with the lingering guilt by the time summer arrived.

The French at the behest and indefatigable labor of Pere LeJeune and the Duchess D'Aguillon, niece of Cardinal Richelieu raised the money from devout Catholics to build the first hospital in the Americas in 1603 to provide a place of refuge for aged natives rather than subject them to this atrocious end.
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newfags this is the greek spammer, 1pbtid.
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>>538704460
Based knower
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>>538711457
>belief that you can become God
Sure you're not thinking of Mormonism?
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>>538712567
Who gives a fuck if you die as old man. Im sick od this boomer worship. Living full life as young man is the most important. But nooo lets kill the youth to keep geriatrics alive. A sentiment obviosly present in your country
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>>538704692
And is there a product harvested from our sufferings?
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>>538704779
Was he a jew-lover?
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>>538706058
He is wrong and a christcuck, if you're not into Nietzsche you're cattle
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>>538711973
Because if all life was photosynthetic then it wouldn't be life as we know it. That's not due to god, it's evolution. A photosynthesiser has no reason to move or even think unless there is danger to make it move. The very fact that we're all debating this on a Cambodian guinea pig breeding forum for racist nerds is all as part of the natural order of things that was first predicated on the need for thinking beings to sense and process and then move and act either to eat or to avoid being eaten. The fact that world is cruel and has been red in tooth and claw for hundreds of millions of years is the reason why you're here today as a human being and not as a single unthinking phytoplankton cell mindlessly absorbing sunlight just below the surface of the ocean
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>>538711387
I thought google was a known thing for 3 decades already, guess I was wrong. Papers cited at the end.
https://www.newswise.com/articles/consciousness-depends-on-tubulin-vibrations-inside-neurons-anesthesia-study-suggests
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>>538712810
If you are into Nietzsche you are a chud

There is gray area and its really important you understand why his viewpoints are flawed
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>>538712734
What about when you get old? What then? Young man...If you're 30 in a primitive world you're old.
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>>538712466
Sorry for your loss, anon.
Poshaya Molly is more like for druggies here. I liked listening to them 10 years ago, when I was on speed all the time. Try Myцypaeв.
>>538712480
More fun? I have no idea why this is how you see it, but in reality, it's not fun. No drive, no "extreme", and it doesn't make you feel alive. I'm listening to drones/rockets almost every night and wondering if it will hit my apartment tonight, or if it will hit the parents' house, or if it will hit my friend's house. I can't go to the bar because there's a high chance I will get vanned, same for a regular walk. I hadn't left my city for 3 years already, and most of the time I spend working or lurking here, leaving home few times per week to visit gym (same building) and drive for groceries/visit parents. Luckily, I have my future wife living with me, and a best friend who moved to my city when it started, so we can occasionally meet at my/his place to drink some rum. If the war ends now, the first thing I will do is go fishing. Have no life force for anything else right now.
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>>538712926
We kant all be on your level faggot
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>>538704460
That's what government funded "learning institutions" tell you and then everyone wonders why some kid eventually snaps. Maybe the kid took the lesson to heart and actually decided that if nothing matters, there is no ultimate meaning to life, there is no transcendent purpose, humans do not have moral duties because morality is just some cultural construct, then that kid would rather inflict suffering on those around him. The kid would rather feel like a god for a few minutes than live 60 more inconsequential years searching for meaning that the science teacher said doesn't exist.

Public schools are indoctrination centers, these places are meant to destroy your hope in something greater. Public schools, colleges and scientific institutions are not tools for teaching kids and adults the truth they are tools for reducing people down to insignificant ants.

Someone has a stake in making sure that you live a miserable life, that you reject God and that you only come to the knowledge of Him when you are suffering His wrath in Hell because of the sin that you were told was merely "natural human desires and rationality".
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>>538712964

>Try Myцypaeв.

Will do thx broski
Stay safe
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>>538712974
My absolute least favorite

Worse than Plato
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>>538713082
Re Kant: you are correct I just couldn't help myself with the joke.

Disagree re Plato tho

To paraphrase Platos warning from 2300 years ago:

Demagoguery is democracy’s internal contradiction—rule by the many without rule by reason.

When persuasion outruns truth, freedom becomes the instrument of its own destruction.
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>>538704460
You people are like dogs this is pathetic.

You're a man. Work to make the world how you want it because that is your privilege as a human.

You're the pinnacle of creation and you're complaining about life at the bottom of the pyramid. Fucking pathetic.
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>>538708148
>humans practically didnt suffer as huther gatherers
How can you spout this with such idiotic confidence?
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>>538712098
consider the following:

there was once a boy named Joaquim. He had a big red ball, and he loved it more than anything. He spent hours playing with it every day.

One day, his younger brother asked if he could play with the ball. Joaquim thought about it for a moment before replying, "No. It's mine, and I don't want to share it."
then his younger brother became bitter. Later that night, after Joaquim had gone to bed, he quietly entered his room and punctured the ball with a pin.
the next morning, Joaquim woke up to find his favorite possession ruined. He searched for the person responsible, but when he couldn't identify the culprit, he turned his anger toward his father.
"How could my father bring me into a world like this?" he cried. "a world where little boys can lose the thing they love most surely it is evil by itself"

his younger brother laughed at him.
"how Joaquim could be so silly and dramatic? it's just a ball." - he thought.

now consider the question carefully.
would it be reasonable for Joaquim to blame his father for the free choice of his younger brother?
If your answer is yes, then you are implicitly embracing a gnostic view of reality. In gnosticism, the creator is held morally responsible for the existence of evil simply because he created the world in which moral agents act. christianity, by contrast, distinguishes between the goodness of the creator and the evil brought about by the misuse of created freedom.

so, what is the answer to all this? spank your little brother when he fucks your ball and stop complaining, whinny faggot. we aren't in heaven.
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>>538711623
>Bro what even IS suffering, like fr fr? How can you prove to me objectively that it's somehow "evil" for me to just kick you in the balls over and over because the noises you make are funny? Bro what even *is* pain? Can you prove I'm hurting you somehow?
That's literally the anti-theist position though. Isn't pain just chemicals and shit anyway? Like literally it's just atoms getting positioned in such a way that relays other atoms in the nervous system to make a pain signal. Subjectively it sucks, but it still doesn't make it objectively "evil." You need higher order justification for that.
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>>538704460
If you really want to know.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/unsearchablerich/booksonwebsite/%C2%A9CPC+The+Problem+of+Evil.pdf
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>>538704460
we're an anomaly in the universe and you only get one life. you can either sulk or realize your worries mean nothing. in 100 years no one will remember us anyway. just enjoy the ride.
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>>538705530
Is that blood?

Is he ok..pic looks kind of old
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>>538704460
It seems like you are more than ready for the gnosticpill brother.
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>>538704460
Once you realize death is inevitable, you understand a sentient animal's basic need to believe in an afterlife.
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>>538709069
Mein nigger the skeletons of hunter gatherers are always beat the fuck up.
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>>538704687
>Get a life dummies!
That's rich coming from a country who never accomplished anything and nobody can place on a map.
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>>538713269
Leaf posters should require a tits-or-gtfo photo with a time stamp showing they arent jeetz before stating their business.
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>>538712187
This
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>>538712362
>nigger
>why did they do that to him
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>>538704460

Suffering is only part of the biological process. The universe is the same entity from an electron to a black hole (informationally speaking, they both have the same 3 -only- variables!).

Peaceful blissful awareness in the nothing is the default state. Total safety, isolation, your -eternal- private universe. But you leave it, because its boring. Its lonely. You reach out for anything just to feel alive.. and you landed here. You can go back with what you've gathered, but The Nothing will grow as your scalar soul hawking radiates away from its solipsism and your soul spinor unwinds to the singularity, and once again you will hunger for this fire.
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>>538712742
Yes, our suffering is the final product. Archons are getting high on this stuff, it's like oxy pills to them.
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>>538713202
That's technically true

It's hard to avoid the fakeness and gayness of it all
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>>538704460
You gotta learn to take the good with the bad. The universe is a mixed bag.
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>>538704460
Lol true. Get fucked I guess. Only billionaires get to not suffer it looks. God rewards the wealthy and I guess they are the most moral and good in this world. All other mfers are coping?
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>>538713269
Sup hylicnigger
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>>538712734
Devaluing older experienced people and their life experiences is why young cunts never learn anything and never move forward
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>>538713619
And pretty whores also have easy as long as they are willing to sell their bodies. Does God work in mysterious ways?
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>>538704687
Wait a second... You're a med, too!
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>>538704460
reincarnation is a retarded illogical myth.
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>>538713619
Billionaires suffer too. They may be the ones suffering the most.
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>>538704460
>Suffering
ok but he is just a little bit hungry tho
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>>538704687
Fjaka
Ubij se
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>>538704460
Literally the very first story in the Bible explains exactly why we don't live in a perfect paradise where nothing bad ever happens (hint: God created exactly that but humans immediately fucked it all up by choosing to break the only rule).
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>>538704460
OP is a glownigger looking to instill fear. You don't scare me, faggot. Of course there's an escape, and I plan to use it. You can ruin my life here, but you have no good goys to support you in the spiritual world.
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>>538704460
Goyim enjoy waxing with sophistry. Instead of just acknowledging how dumb they are.

So here's the redpill: yeah jesus and muhammad were nonironically gay. Being gay (a pervert) can make you nice and special, and better than other people. But you're still not allowed to be gay.

So yeah it's the apocalypse where everyone sees Judaism is the correct religion.
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>>538704460
the funniest thing of this entire thread is someone say "The universe is a torture chamber" and decided to start attempting to gaslight people in this thread lol
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>>538704460
what if we love life more than we hate suffering?
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>>538713742
>They may be the ones suffering the most.
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>>538713310
>huehue monkey
>childish reductive tale to make people accept the infinite rape of the sufferniverse

fuck being
fuck the world
fuck brown scum too stupid to revolt against said world and the creator
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>>538704460
Just become a masochist lol
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>>538713883
You are not supposed to kill gays because you find them disgusting/base homophobia. Becquse they are better people. You are supposed to have an elevated homophobia, where the reason you do it is because it is God's commandment. (And God's commandment comes from the desire to preserve your race, and racial diversity on earth).
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>>538704460
Okay but reincarnation is not immediate. You can choose to not incarnate.
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>>538710850
It's on audiobook now, no need to read it in this modern era
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>>538714000
They think because they have some antennas on the moon that they have the upper hand.
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>>538713938
you're dramatic like a faggot.

give life a chance.
give joy a chance by stopping comparisons.
let the your heart open to love, faggot.

when you have someone or something to love the suffering doesn't mean jackshit.
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>>538708300
Hourly reminder that there is more proof that Jesus Christ existed than there is for any other human being ever, Aristotle proved that there must be one and only one God thousands of years ago using logic and rationality, and that when people like you die without believing in anything, you end up spending eternity in the Spiritual/Supernatural realm being the NPCs in other people's dreams. It's not a good existence, I highly recommend you start believing in something before you die.
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>>538704460
kinda beautifull in a way. i'll bet the other zebras are more careful next time. consuming it's pray alive is a function of its environment, not whatever anthropomorphic traits you want to put on it after watch disney slop like lion king
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>>538709337
That's because anyone who gets sick or has fucked up teeth immediately dies. You only see the healthy ones walking around because of literal survivorship bias.
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>>538713699
As if there is logic in this simulation at all. You have a pair of bags of spongy flesh getting full of poison every 5 seconds who send it by an incredibly complex system of pistons all around your physical envelop to transform it into food for trees. And if you don't repeat this operation all the time you die so you have a computer of 2 volts who makes millions of operations by second, running on the ovulations of the trees who fed with your breathe. But to transform this tree ovulation (lets call it an apple) into 2 volts of electricity you need to have an acidic chamber dissolving the ovuls in thousands of differents compounds and then sort them out. And then... ad infinitum.
Nothing makes any sense. This entire universe is retarded from top to bottom. From A1 supernovas down to higgs bosons everything is nonsensical.
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>>538704460
If you want a bit of consolation
your guts don't have nerves to feel themselves as they're being eaten alive
you see the zebra responds when his skin is bit.. not his bloody unprotected intestines.. so you see, this universe has its graces..
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>>538713574
Symposium is what it is and hedwig vs rocky is clearly objectively a hedwig win. Rocky is gay and lame. Hedwig communicates real shit AND is closer to the less gay trap bussy side by comparison.

That doesnt matter though because dude we've all surrendered our agency as human beings. Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind style. Maybe. Dunno. I just keep stocking up ammo and rereading Ecclesiastes and proverbs.
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HOURLY REMINDER: there is no god, jesus never existed and when you die it will be nothingness for eternity!
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>>538714419
>it will be nothingness for eternity!
if only... sadly that's not what happens.
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>>538714375
Then why does my tummy hurt?
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>>538704460
>Meaning when you die you Instantly reincarnate in a new body that will get tortured again.
Many people accross many cultures and ages almost died and came back and all of them said the same thing. They felt love, light and some even saw their loved ones.
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>>538714025
>It's on audiobook now, no need to read it in this modern era
Can't tell if trolling or unironically zoomtarded.
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>>538714448
It literally is you French retard. There is no consciousness without your brain. Just like there wasn’t before you were born. Grow up.
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>>538714488
>glowniggers trying to trick you into walking into the light
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>>538706430
How do I access these admin controls?
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>>538713854
Mankind's hubris is the explanation which didnt come to fruition until the industrial revolution (rip in peace ted I don't care what they said about you bc literally NO ONE has ever done more for polish/slav surname pronunciation ever before and ever will.) as for example microplastic pollution is A reducing the efficiency of photosynthesis by like 15% and the literal electron transport train in general by 10%. The time necessary for all that plastic to fully break down to carbon dioxide is orders of magnitude longer than mankind has existed. We were entrusted by God to be stewards of His garden and look at what we've done.
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>>538714375
That doesn't make me feel better.
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>>538714488
Yes, they came back to be tortured again. They thought they could finally reunite with the ain soph, but at the last second a shithead archon pulled their leg down "not so fast buddy" and put their ass back on the wheel. Galactically cucked.
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>>538714372
>This entire universe is retarded from top to bottom. From A1 supernovas down to higgs bosons everything is nonsensical.
log off reddit and touch grass for once
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>>538713325
According to Divine Mandate anything that God says is good. So if God orders you to eat a bucket of shit to prove your faith to him it would be good for you to eat that bucket of shit and evil not to.
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>>538713742
Cope more, fuck you.
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>>538711443
God already did the beautiful fantasy world thing and probably still does. The universe is probably an exercise in extreme experience after God got bored of doing the goofy friendly disney universe for 5 trillion fantasy world years.
It's not that weird when you try to comprehend God and what he's capable of.
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>>538714624
the light is the demiurge. it's where christcucks forfeit their free will and hold hands with niggers and sing kumbayah for all eternity while worshipping a jewish warrior demon.
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>>538704460
One simple test of the claim that the pleasure in the world outweighs the pain…is to compare the feelings of an animal that is devouring another with those of the animal being devoured
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>>538714530
The conditions that created YOUR consciousness happened at least once before. Why wouldn't those conditions be met again? We're assuming infinite time, chaos, entropy, yada yada.
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we must imagine the zebra happy
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>>538704460
>the universe is a torture chamber
For you.

Keep that in mind.

There are people living pretty well here, and it is not the wrongdoers, who always claim to be living a great life, but don't realize their desperation shows.
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>>538714678
If you think the lack of riches is what make you suffer, you have more urgent problems than money. It's time to refocus your NPC brain on things that really matter.
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>>538711457
brainlet take
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>>538714781
This is all cope
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>>538704460
Life is painful because life is fire. Right this second, you are burning. Problem with pampered humans is they are frightened by high temperatures. They whimper and cower. Everyone is scared of death even though it is an unavoidable, inevitable conclusion. Whether you are the goodest of goys or the most fucked up individual, you will both suffer and die miserably until you learn to accept you will die. Nothing is more certain than that. You are free and your life is draining every second, crumbling and burning away to a rotting, black carcass.

The problem we have is that people are indoctrinated into fearing death. True death isn’t your non-existence. True death is to be held in stasis, to be held in place unable to live or die. It’s to be forced to live while dying. True death is hell.
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>>538704460
I already won. What you talking about willis?
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>>538714780
If the world is bad then the loser is the lucky one. So your cope doesnt even make sense
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>>538704460
>Humanity's main goal should be to destroy all life on earth and end the suffering. You cannot win this game
that sounds like it would be cool faction in a fantasy RPG game. They could be like necromancers or something, and their end goal is to end all life because life is suffering. Very cool idea.
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>>538714765
TIE ME TO A ROCKET AND SEND ME TO COOMBAYA INSH ALLAH
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Also imagine wanting to live until you’re a decrepit, ugly, drooling turd. Do yourself and everyone else a favor. After a certain age I think there should be an age where a man and woman are free game for hunting and slaying. Boomers better act right, then.
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>>538714993
if you take care of your body and brain it's not hard to maintain your faculties into your 80s and 90s. Fat boomer retards only eat goyslop and do drugs and then become crippled and then they wonder why. Or they take it as an axiom that they are NPCs with no free will and become nihilists that want to die young.
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>>538713456
Their teeth are always in perfect shape though
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Humans really should exterminate the more savage creatures on this Earth. Hyenas serve no purpose other than being absolute niggers.
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>>538712959
Dying at 60 of natural causes would be preferable to endless horrific medical procedures to extend your life by 15 years
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>>538714530
>"There's no consciousness without your brain."
splendid. now prove it.
not repeat it. prove it.

you looked at brain activity and noticed that consciousness and the brain are correlated. Fine. Then, with the magical leap that only modern superstition can perform, you declared the brain produces consciousness. That's like smashing a piano, noticing the music stops, and announcing you've discovered Beethoven was manufactured by wood and strings.

then comes the masterpiece: "Just like there wasn't before you were born." Oh? And where exactly did you acquire this privileged access to the state of affairs before your birth? Did you run an experiment? Interview the dead? Or did you simply confuse "I don't remember" with "it didn't exist"? A toddler makes that mistake. An adult should know better.

the funniest part is that you people worship "science" while quietly smuggling metaphysical dogmas into every sentence. Show me the experiment that detects the nonexistence of consciousness after death. Not the cessation of brain activity—the nonexistence of consciousness itself. There isn't one. There can't be one.
you're not speaking as a scientist. You're preaching materialism with the confidence of a televangelist who swapped the Bible for an MRI scanner.
and "grow up"? my sweet summer child redditnigger, growing up begins the day you learn the difference between evidence and the philosophical fairy tales you've been calling ~LE SCIENCE!

>>538714836
nice argument, nigger.
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>>538715231
You're a bigger nigger than niggers if you think your reddit perception of "savagery" is better than nature's
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>>538712237
Probably what happened was Jesus was ordering Kabob and they got his order wrong. Luke is notoriously retarded, probably drunk and high.
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>>538714806
Billionaires don't suffer.
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>>538715231
Start with the brownoids.
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>>538715410
What about when they get cancer or some other illness?
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>>538705504
yeah, they put on a mask.
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>>538715359
>more cope
Back to your favela spic faggot. There’s nothing when you die and it TERRIFIES you.
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>>538715454
They can afford the treatments and regular screening at least or leave knowing their kids will do fine. What billionaire recently had to die of cancer? Steve Jobs could've gotten treatment but decided to deal with it by eating fruits instead.
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Gos must be destroyed at all costs along with all the NPCs.
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>>538707949
Your freemasons also wrote your King James Bible.
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>>538705765
>go to church
Imagine thinking you're some kind of free spirit and being this much of mindraped jew slave.
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>>538715552
Yeah but you saying rich people don’t suffer or get sick is not true. Sure money helps. But there are millions of things that don’t have treatments or cures.
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>>538715630
Is there any billionaire suffering now? They all seem comfortable and making lots of money more than ever.
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>>538715673
Have you spoken to every billionaire personally? No? Then STFU.
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>>538714488
What if you never had loved ones? Who do you unite with then? Anime girls?
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>>538704460
You are so retarded you cant be suffering as much as you think you are
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>>538715673
They're all larping
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I like Ruby and Go
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>>538715520
>There’s nothing when you die and it TERRIFIES you.
Notice how quickly you abandoned the argument and started psychoanalyzing me.
you have no answer, so now it's: "You're afraid."
whether I'm terrified, amused, or eating a sandwich is completely irrelevant. my emotional state has no bearing whatsoever on whether consciousness is reducible to matter.

this is the curious thing about materialists: they demand evidence from everyone else, but when asked to prove their own metaphysical assumptions, they suddenly become amateur psychologists.
you still haven't answered the question: how do you get from "brain activity correlates with consciousness" to "consciousness is nothing but brain activity"?
where is the demonstration?

yntil you can bridge that gap, "there's nothing when you die" is not science. It's your dumb creed.
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>>538711057
So I'm torturing myself by being a loser?>>538711060
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>>538715719
Lol so you don't know shit. They are doing more fine than ever, don't you worry your little goy heart.
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>>538704460
>coded
A good thing can be made and then people use it to abuse others, or even corrupt it (hacking) for nefarious purposes. That's what has happened and that's what will be corrected one day.
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>>538715850
So when will one of them attempt to kill themselves or something then?
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>>538711075
>What did (((He))) mean by this?
we deserve it.
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>>538715985
The vast majority of billionaires aren't public figures and no one knows anything about their personal lives
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>>538713405
Probably the late 80s or early 90s based on the photo quality and beer cans - plus glass Gatorade bottle.
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>>538705175
You're a fucking nigger.
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>>538704460
So like a butthole, only shit and dicks.
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>>538715448
im so sorry
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>>538704460
So, when will you start?
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>>538712362
he said the n word
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>>538704460
For the crime of using logic and reason, I hear by sentence you to 17 consecutive lifetime on earth. No! Anything but earth!
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>>538704692
This is pretty much the conclusion I reached all the time so I can confirm you are correct because we are suffering together
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>>538716189
That's very untrue lol. You don't become a billionaire without having a lot of power and people around you. You're just talking shit to cope. Billionaires live blessed lives and it's easy to convince yourself to not kill themselves or not suffer by buying a bunch of shit or drugs but either way they suffer way less. Maybe their kids suffer cause they're spoiled and can't understand shit about how lucky they are, but the actual billionaires are comfy.
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>>538714155
*Brownoid's noises*

weeew, I guess I should thanks le god for that
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>>538704460
Literally just the buddhist perspective. You have to go back. Go self mummify yourself in a wooden keg underground, faggot.
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>>538715359
not against your idea. you can measue brain activity with electromagnetic fields. the earth and sun are creating magnetic fields.

i think you should define conciousness first.
you can only prove your conciousness to yourself. and you can assume conciousness in any other life form. have trees conciousness? because they react to triggers. but its nothing different, than a machine. a machine just works how its programmed. it reacts to triggers.
humans also react to triggers. we have 5 senses. light has so many triggers in different lengthwaves and compositions. sound has so many different frequencies. those all are triggers that we can use to change something. and genetics (our programming) defines how we react.

the sun and any other star or planet can produce different magnetic fields.



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