Muh ''invincible Germany'' lost the war against people they deemed inferior. Deal with it, you retarded chudcels.
Yeah, the Reich prolapsed the very moment it faced a decent opponent. All they could do was sucker-punch or backstab, but there was little they could do against someone their own size.
>>538733879>Yeah, the Reich prolapsed the very moment it faced a decent opponent.Meaning the USA...(?) because against the ussr they held quite high K:D ratio
>>538733958>held quite high K:D ratioAbout 1:1.3. Not that impressive.
>>538733879[citation needed]Russians would've folded like a chair if it wasn't for US logistical support. US fucked up by supporting them.
>>538733725Herbs
They just declassified that the US over the top search for Amelia Earheart was a coverup for scouting the pacific in anticipation for war with Japan
>>53873407095% of US support arrived after the battle of Moscow, so no. Germans lost in 1941 and would have kept losing land lease or not.
German nearly fought the whole world and still almost won. Russia and the jewSA are pathetic.
>>538734070KekNewfags easily identified with their lend lease cope
>>538733725>Muh ''invincible Germany'' lost the war against people they deemed inferior. Deal with it, you retarded chudcels.oh oh, puccian melty!
>>538733879Yeah the USA was quite an economic monster and we should have learned from the first war.Everyone else were just worthless bugs dying in meat waves and then lost in the 90s anyway.
>>538734108>95% of US support arrived after the battle of MoscowThe decisive battle was the battle of Kursk in July of 1943, not the battle of Moscow though.
>>538733725Stalin and Zhukov both credited lend lease.
>>538734266The battle of Kursk was merely the last straw that broke the german buck. Like the battle of bulge.
>>538734321Stalingrad was very close to failure as well...
>>538734297We see how mighty Russians fight without an actual power giving them endless free shit
>>538734297Lend lease was 10% of the Soviet war effort.
>>538733725Yeah the good guys won and the victorious people are thriving today and aren't replaced by Germans. Very true!
Good job now you get to be slaves to Israel, as a treat
Russia won the died the most for literally nothing award.Brest-Litovsk: ~780,000 km2 lost.USSR collapse: ~5,300,000 km2 lost (about 6.8× larger).
>>538733725Hitler was kinda an idiot, should have tried to keep peace with the soviet union and instead teamed up with them and with china so that new block can destroy USA 80 years later.
>>538735034They won the ww2 though you tard.
>>538733725>Lost the war against inferior peopleEven the strongest man loses a fight against 100 angry apes. You had the UK, US, Canada, Russia, and the liberated forces of western Europe all converging on one army. Eventually, anyone would collapse.
>>538733725slavs are such great allies.
>>538733725Germany only lost because the the NSDAP was a judeo-masonic psyop from the start, and Hitler sabotaged the war effort because he was a mindraped puppet controlled by (((handlers))) like Dr Morell
>>538735219axis outnumbered ussr 3:1
what do you think of my ancestors?
>>538735112WW2 never stopped until our objectives were achieved which was when the pidorunion collapsed.>You didn't win fast enough I've heard that from somewhere else lmao
>>538735418>3 to 1Eh, Italy doesn't count, be real. Plus Japan was too busy with Americans to come over to europe and lend a hand, obviously. Math doesn't work out.
>>538733725Lost the war?Against Persians you deemed inferior?
>>538735418Allies outnumbered axis 20:1
>>538735479That retard on the front looks like a young putin
>>538733725One German was worth ten Russians, but there were eleven Russians.
>>538735479Spiffy hats. Aesthetic.
>>538735618alies did not fight axis on the land, 90% of axis soldioers were killed by ussrso total axis loses are around 11 mln, around 7,5 mln are ethnic germans, most of them are killed in combat or died from woundstotal ussr loses are 8,7 mln, 6 mln killed in combat and died from woundscollapse of axis land army is the only reason why they lost
>>538735563After Poland was split the Soviet union had a population of 195 million and Germany 90 million and that's the only number that matters.
>>538735720Now counting civilians too? Then Soviets alone stand at 27m.Stalin said without the USA they would have lost badly but what would he know that some online tranny doesn't know better.
>>538735786i dont count civilians7,5 mln is ethnic german military loses , thats etimation that ussr made in 1945all germans that took up arms were either killed or capturedthere is no german population statistics that represents ethnic germans during war period, it is missinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Population_of_German_territories_1800_-_2000.JPGpeople simply evaporated loltechnically ussr population increased durign ww2 period, but all loses were counted
>>538735720YOu deliberately count GErman civilian loses, while ignoring Soviet Civilian Loses which amounts to 27 to 30 Million people. Also, for your interest, the 8.7 Million is based on outdated Soviet Records, the current consesus is 12-14 Million dead Soviet Soldiers.>collapse of axis land armyTHe Axis army collapsed after the war has been already lost (hence why the majority of German soldiers died in the last 12 months of the war), the AXis defeat is owed to industry and lack of resources, for which the WEstern ALlies played a far greater part. Your shitty conscripts killing a bunch of shitty GErman conscripts is a minor contribution.
>>538735892>7,5 mln is ethnic german military loses , thats etimation that ussr made in 1945Yeah, estimations from 1945 are surely reliable and not estimates by historians who have much more material (and less biases) to work with. No serious person thinks the GErmans lost 7 Million soldiers, not even modern Russian historians or tankies
>>538735902i dontaccording to population balance german civilian loses are 4 mln, 7-8 mln are german military loses ,total demographic loses are 12 mlnthose 4 mlns include both unborn children, population killed during expulsions (12-14 mln totall were resettled) and so onthere were also around 500k who managed to fledyour loses were counted by population balance since there are no records leftvery simple
>>538734464russia then was also the sheer industrial might of all other soviet republics and its people, nigger, not just an economically decayed and industrially crippled russia as it is now
>>538733725Same energy as IDF posing in front of Gaza, or the FBI at Waco. Funny how the "good guys" always do stuff like this.
>>538733879>Yeah, the Reich prolapsed the very moment it faced a decent opponent.Huh?? Three massive empires converged and sweated HARD to eek out a victory against a country the size of Texas in a six year-long fight....and even then it was kinda close. This retconning over the "ease" of German defeat or their "collapse" is such a self-serving cope from the bloodstained Allies, still bitter about uppity Germans almost 100 years later. And to this day you all still wake up in a cold sweat, shaking and quivering over the phantom of their memory. Then you try to act all hard and swagger about it. It's so pathetic, man.
>>538733725>"This guy is the greatest artist in the world">*shoots him in the head*>"Oh yeah? If he's so superior then how come he's dead. Checkmate."
>>538736259France was a joke and the English couldn't handle Germany in Europe and Japan in Asia at the same time with their poopjeet empire.USA singlehandedly was responsible for England and Soviets not starving and collapsing and Germany couldn't do anything against the USA. At best Germany could achieve some stalemate but only after the Soviets were finished and the US public not accepting losses in the dozens of millions and voting some peacecuck president in but more likely nuking Germany city after city as fast as you could build them until all of us are gone which would create pretty much no losses for the USA.
>>538736259you sound butthurt
>>538733725>lost the war against people they deemed inferiorSlavs and Americans are White, shlomo.
>>538733958USA came in late in the war, it doesn't count.
>>538736259butthurt LOLgermans killed a lot of civilians deliberately, it was something new that did not happen before, huge part of that civilians were ukrainian & belarussians peasants and citizens of besiged citiespublic was fed with bullshit that they defeated evil nazis and therefore other germans should be spared because nazis and germans are different, ordinary gay commie bullshitpart of army wanted to genocide remaining german population of cource, so they found a compromise to shrink german ethnic lands to the border of 10 century and genocide only "prussians" which were core of german military might and unitfied itpoland received german land that belonged to west slavic tribes 1000 years agotoday germans dared to supply weapon against russians again, it will be impossible to feed pops with bullshit again in the age of internet
>>538734250The US was shit during WWII, they contributed very little to the German loss, you deployed mutt faggot.
>>538736774>germans killed a lot of civilians deliberately, it was something new that did not happen before,You are full of shit, shlomo.
>>538736911butthurt?you can compare civilian loses in russo-ukrainian war and ww2today civilian loses are ~1%, weapon is 100 times more devastatingduring ww2 they were more than 70%, most of them occured on occupied territoriesmost of poeple still lived in villages and small towns and were able to sustain themselves even during the war btwordinary jews were also soviet citizens
>>538737106Most Soviet civilians died thanks to Stalins brilliant scorched earth policy.Like usual commie swines blame others for their own crimes.
>>538737201they died on occupied territoriesscorched earth policy included only industrial infranstructure which was evacuated to urals, most people still lived in self sustainable communities in that timethey could survive without connection to external world, you dont need "government" to tell farming communities how to live, imbecileussr urbanized 50 years later than europe
>>538736734No, you just don't like what I'm saying. But I get it, you have to maintain framing on this despite reality since Russia was a winning side in WW2. Gotta justify it and all.>>538736774>germans killed a lot of civilians deliberately, it was something new that did not happen before,Absolute bullshit that is disproven by Anglos and the Boer War alone. Memeflag kike. Hitler BTFO you all on this and ripped apart your lies. It's one of the main reasons the Big Three ganked Germany - because they were right. >>538736557All true and I think Germany would have totally won if it wasn't for the US and England's industry building up the entire USSR. Also the head of German intelligence was a total cuck traitor and basically handed the Allies victory through some Polish whore. Operation Barbarossa might have even worked if it wasn't for him. But if it wasn't for Lend-Lease (what is it with Western capitalism funding communism harder than anyone else in the whole universe, I (((wonder)))), Germany would have won. Probably even through diplomacy and shit like they did with Austria. The security guarantees the English had with Poland was obviously set up to start WW2 before Germany could keep making progress on unifying Europe and becoming a central power. They literally fucking say they wanted to destroy Germany specifically because it was becoming a economic world power competitor. And these fags act like Hitler was some extreme maniac when every other statement from the "good guys" is mindless screaming for fresh German blood.
>>538737376hitler killed himself, wake up, you shitted yourself lol
>>538737376Hitler was good until the war with Poland started and should have stopped there. He knew Poland was bait to start a world war but he believed mighty Germany would win anyway.The should have really never happened, Stalin had plans to invade all of Europe but USA has plans to invade Canada too so who knows if they really had done it.If a 3 way cold war happened that would be absolute kino and like we saw Soviet vermin collapsed at the end anyway no war needed.
>>538737489Proof?>>538737342That order explicitly aimed at burning all farm fields and racing all towns, absolutely everything the enemy could have any use for.Typical commie dindu nuffins
>>538733725Wow. Evil won. Who would have thought? This is the real world. Evil always wins. That's why they trick with stories about good guys always being the winners.
>>538733879All nazi did in Russia is killing millions of women and children and they brag about those murders statistics. What they don’t even see that Soviets could kill literally all germans this way, because they won. But they didn’t, because they were better in every way. Not only militarily but also morally.
>>538737489Yeah and you never got to string his body upside down or parade it through the streets. He died on his own terms and remains a martyr legend despite the best efforts of Jew lies.
>>538737763i think you are diconnected from reality, how can you burn potato?i am not a commie, i consider they made a mistake by keeping germans alive after ww2 lolthanks God zog did the job to finish you with degeneracy, EU and refugees
>>538733991are you sure about that, sergay?
>>538736263>"Superior race" with super advanced technology >Loses against subhumans that only have enough rifles for every second soldier Never stops being funny
>>538737376nah, butthurt it is
>>538737837Sending unarmed peasants to the front who are expected to pick up weapons from other killed pidors is not killing civilians at all and Soviets barely took 1/3 of Germany and only the worthless parts so no they literally couldn't.USA took the important parts with the most population.
>>538737887Hitler is still rocking to this day and banging bundas.
>>53873806610 million nazi soldiers gave up, and survived
>>538738033Putting your entire air force directly at our border is clearly a defensive move of them
>>538738119while germans count as military losses 15 million of “partisan executions” in Russia. Which was in fact murdering of women and children, because were to stupid to catch real partizans.
>>538738151Please understand that a few years ago they had to fend off a Finnish invasion of the Soviet Union and simply forgot to call them back.
>>538738066>USA took the most of the populationand those population is now gone. It is quite remarkable what Americans dis to Germany as a punishment. There will be no “german” already in 10 years. And it can’t even be undone.
>>538738186The only partisans against us in the east were bandera niggers and we put bandera in a KZ. Everyone else welcomed that we liberated them.Soviets over the decades closed or destroyed 60000 churches and Germans opened up over 10000 Orthodox churches.Germans were the good guys, Nazis are good people
>>538738371Pidorstan is the biggest Islamic shit hole in Europe.Projections like usual.
>>538738385nobody fucking wants to leave with germans, m8
>>538738385the atrocities that unhinged nazis did in Belarus, Russia and Ukraine the world has never seen. Mongols in comparison were almost a missionaries.
All Jews Rape Kids.That is all.Correct, imagine considering winning loosing half your country's productive people and then spend the next 30+ years killing the rest in Gulag's. Op is such a kike.
>>538738518and the worst part was that was not even some individual crime, it was absolutely industrialised and documented. Compare it to soviet occupation of germany, where even surrendering nazi scum was not killed.
>>538738518And yet you faggots endorse Zelensky who is literally taking photos with Ukraine units that say Hitler is their role model.Your a schizophrenic's bunch to say the least.I'm done with this faggot thread now have a nice day.
>>538738054The Soviets were Jewish
>>538739357stalin was jewish?
>>538738444When we retreated many millions of civilians followed us especially ukrainians.Even today we see how much they are greatful that we tried to liberate them 2 times.
>>538733725How the fuck did the le french resistance get memed as an actual threat, when they did jack shit
>>538738518Commies believe the holodomor was either made up or ukrainians and central Asians deserved it because they refused to become mindless communist serfs.
>>538734108>Germans lost in 1941You guys are so delusional.
>>538739607>retreatedyou ran away like a bitch and people spat on you
>>538739666Germans lost in 1939 when your chud leader decided to invade Poland
>>538739663“holodomor” is merely an iq test
>>538739657What else could the government in exile do? Support for a real resistance was not there since our occupation was extremely lenient so all they had left was propaganda and the funny part most of the actual resistance were commie Stalin puppets not even pro west.When we took France Stalin told them to refuse resistance and then there was no resistance but when Barbarossa happened the resistance suddenly did something.
>>538739710And commies failed it just like understanding economics.
>>538739700Ivan you're as impotent as the rest of the world, you fucking couldn't defeat the holhols in 4 years, pathetic
>>538739856Better focus on developing yourself. The west had too much attention to prevent communists from the development for some reasons, so they forgot to improve themselves in the long term. Now you see the results.
>>538733725Reading The Other Side of the Hill by Liddell Hart atm. Thoroughly recommended. Hitler wasn't as retarded as I thought he was, in fact he had some positive influence over the army due to his natural tendency to accept dashing daring plans which offer the possibility of a decisive outcome. Nevertheless, he was a bohemian corporal who should have been put in his place by the military elite.
>>538740133you mean he couldn’t tell stupid ideas from the efficient ones?
>>538740057Stalin could only industrialise because they sold food even when the holodomor happened to Germany and USA in exchange for technology/machinery.Commies are retards without capitalists funding them.Poor shithole Soviet union couldn't compete with NATO military spending and collapsed.
>>538740133Going with tanks through the woods in Belgium was good and finished the entire western campaign but it could have failed very hard.Hitler wanted the Caucasus oil and cutting lend lease aid through Persian too while generals wanted Moscow and Sankt Petersburg because old retarded reasons and then people say he was bad for not listening to such generals.His refusal for tactical retreats surely was the dumbest decisions he did losing thanks to this many valuable armies.
>>538739795>government in exile doNothing, Im talking about the people who just accepted defeat and occupation, only to later produce propaganda that they in fact did do something. I mean not everyone is retarded as us to have a 3way civil war while under occupation, but the fact remains that the occupation force in Yugoslavia was comparable to the one in the whole of western Europe, and here you had an actual army group complete with a tank brigade and 100-200 aircrafts.
>>538739700If that's so clear, how come smart Russians elect a chud leader and do the same shit, kek
>>538733958lost to jews either way, weak cope
>>538733725well they had more bodies than we had bullets
>>538740393Balkan nonsense was putting other balkanmonkeys to control other balkanmonkeys and other lower class soldiers.>200 aircraft.You see what a joke and irrelevant this was.YearAircraft produced Germany1939~8,3001940~10,8001941~11,8001942~15,4001943~25,5001944~39,800 (peak production)1945~7,800 (before Germany's surrender)
>>538740560shouldn’t spend them in women and children, than it would be enough
>>538733725Is this that Jew spite where after a Jew kills someone, they just make stuff up on how little of a dick that person has, and how by deduction, massive your micro penis must be?