Why is everything made today so shitty?Take for example pliers modern pliers have plastic handles that start bteaking apart after a few years and is cutter blades get dented when you cut a wire with them.
>>538738204>everythingnot everything is made shitty, but shitty stuff is cheap and plentiful and so dumb idiots like you buy it instead of paying a bit more for stuff that will last
>>538738204Chinesium. That is why.
>>538738204Survivor bias
>>538738204Fuck offTrans women are women. You and this shitty forum are the only ones still trying to argue with science.Fuck off
>>538738487This, stop buying cheap shit outsourced to china
>>538738204Vaxxies don't need forever tools. Electric vehicles last 5 years. It's all been worked out. Trust the plan
>>538738487>>538738591>Buy a more expensive one>It's still shitty chinesium just rebranded and resold with a markupI am of firm belief that we should simply halt trade with china.
>>538738477You cannot pay more because of inflation. There is also a thing Where mass produced garbage tool company purchases quality tool company fires all workers and drops the quality while riding on the reputation of a name for a few years.
>>538738204Bad example. I'm a mechanic and tools have improved significantly over time. Pliers used to all look like they were carved by cavemen like the pair in your pic. Today you can get Knipex at a reasonable price that are precise enough to pull splinters with. Don't even get me started on the old rachets with like 8 teeth.>>538738597I hope that's a vpn.
>>538738759>I can't look up where things are made from before buying themSounds like a >>>(You) problem
>>538738477part of the scam also is lots of non-cheap stuff is made to the same shitty standard but advertised as if it's good quality. so buying more expensive ones for quality is a gamble.
>>538738204Chineseium material
Capitalism
>>538738591The beaners weren’t going to use those anyway
>>538738204stop buying at temu/ali bobba
Buy a good brand and that wont happenTools are full off chinesium for anything that is not a established brand with explicit made in X, everything else you can 100% guarantee its just a rebrand chink tool
>>538738204If you make the steel less pure, you can make more pliers with about the same material, and charge more.
>>538738204Because everyone just wants the cheapest price and doesn't think about quality. Even more expensive shit is still made in China.Everything is a race to the bottom in current era.They could make shit in Europe, but then goy cattle would be like "HOW MUCH FOR THIS TOOL?! I can get it on Amazon for 1 euro"
>>538738204>modern1) those look like they are at least from late 90's2) buy some Knipex and don't let kids and retards near them
>>538738591Retard china makes better stuff than we do now, it's not 1990
>>538738759>>538738987Yes>>538738930What are fake reviews. Also, who the fuck is gonna autistically check reviews for a pair of pliers.
>>538738759>I am of firm belief that we should simply halt trade with chinaHonestly I hated Chinese steel and (lack of) heat treatment until I encountered some vise grips sourced from India.
>>538739234No they don't. They can, but they don't.
>>538738904Yup. If there's one place where new tools and gadgets are actually cool and useful it's in construction and the like.
>>538739234They also make one billion shitty versions of that item, flooding the planet with plastic slop.I fucking hate slants to much it's unreal.
>>538738930Fuck off shill.Every opinion online is paid for.They also straight up lie on the packaging>assembled in EuropeWith Chinese materials.
>>538739234>china makes better stuff than we do>wewhen exactly was australia an industrial powerhouse pumping out useful gadgets?
Peak of engineering.
>>538739159>They could make shit in EuropeThey do, Whia and Bhaco off the top of my head.
>>538738204My dad pliers still got the plastic intact and they are at least 40 years old
>>538739370Australia has Toledo. They're fucking good tools. And Breville.
>>538739252Even big companies love doing the scam where they sell a high quality model with raving reviews and then swap it for shit while keeping the price AND model number the same. It happens all the fucking time.
>>538738204The worst ones are cars and trucks. I had to get a new truck after mine got totaled. I looked at all of them, Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Toyota, they're all plastic pieces of shit now. The 70s 80s and 90s trucks were so much better.
>>538738204I've noticed that, too. I've had new pliers get dented from cutting guitar strings.Everything is shitty and cheap made in China. Brands just add their logo and charge it 2000%.
>>538739372How do you guys pronounce it? Here we say "nip-ex" but I think it's supposed to be "nipe-ex".
>>538738477This is only half trueLike with closing so it is with many other thingsIt used to be average stuff was pretty okay and slightly more expensive stuff was slightly betterNowadays, echoing the k-shaoed economy you only have cheap slop or extremely expensive thingsWhen 50$ used to get you a high quality tool in the 1970s nowadays that same quality costs more than 200$No more middle ground
>>538739159Dunno. I've worked in multiple companies as a plumber and every time the boss tries to cheap out on tools it backfires or people revolt.How relevant is the private tool market really? Who cares if someone buys shitty pliers for cheap if they're only gonna use them like 5 times anyways?I assume most people lose their tools long before they break.And if you're a professional or hobbyist you just won't buy the shitty brands.I hate modern society but tools and alloys and stuff have advanced a lot. Also there's million YouTube channels doing tool comparisons.
>>53873923499 yen has been deposited into your account, xiang>>538739356>>538739252Country of origin isn't just disclosed in user reviews you spastics.
>>538739514The "K" isn't mute.
>>538739514K isn't silent
>>538739234TrvkeThese people are so insufferably ignorant as to what happened to our industrial bases and what the oligarchy they suck up to actually means for us
>>538739514K-nee-pax. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ti9Pfhht0lM&pp=ygUMS25pcGV4IGNvYnJhNip-ex sounds good too though and is kinda how people would say it anyways if they talked fast.Wera is also a great brand.
>>538739524>Also there's million YouTube channels doing tool comparisonsInternet review are probably a big reason why tools are so much better. No more "as seen on TV" junk that doesn't work. The same thing happened in the firearms industry and now all the guns being made today are pretty damned good.
>>538739077There's always better shit and the extra cost is worth it long term
>>538739626>and now all the guns being made today are pretty damned good.Unless it's a government contract.
>>538739554>>538739574>>538739619
>>538738204Capitalism. It encourages planned obsolescence I’m not a communist
>>538738204those pliers probably have no metal beyond what you can see. I have a knife like that which the blade basically cuts off when it goes into the wood
>>538739669>not a commie>uses the word capitalism So, you're just dumb?
>>538739669Where I notice planned obsolence most is in clothes. Uess you deliberately go out of your way to buy things that will last you end up with holes in your t-shirts or your shoe sole separating withing months if not weeks.
>>538739234They still make cheap shit though. They never stopped making crap
>>538739711You can literally see the metal extend all the way since it's transparent plastic <_<
>>538738204Never had any issues with the plastic on any of my pliers.And having plastic on there is much better than "good old" bare metal pliers both for comfort and in case you accidentally a live electrical wire.The cutting blade will get damaged if you try to cut hard stuff but that's just physics and nothing the manufacturer can do about.If I had to cut things a lot I would use a dedicated tool with replaceable inserts.
>>538739721"fast fashion" is a business model that depends on people literally buying clothes they will wear once and then throw them away, I'm not even joking.
>>538739781>and in case you accidentally a live electrical wire.Bare metal is great as you'll be the first to know when you hit a live circuit.
>>538739782>depends on peopleWomen. It depends on women.
>>538739718No youre just a good goy or a jew>>538739721Even “high quality” brands today are of far lower quality than the most basic of brands from 20 odd years ago
>>538739861>from 20 odd years ago>2006
>>538738204you can still buy good tools, you just have to pay the inflation adjusted price for what good tools used to cost
>>538739514With a hard R.
>>538739721Yeah, the funny thing as well is that stores in the UK & Ireland that were previously known for good quality, are now selling cheap Chinese shite (made out of plastic) for expensive prices to trick boomers.Half of it doesn't have labels on to say what it's made from or where it was made.
>>538739876If you go back further you get even better quality for your money, but my point is that even 20 years ago things were of better quality.We’re going to get shittier and shittier stuff and it’s going to cost more and more
>>538739855That goes without saying, women buy 10x more clothes than men.Actually, they buy 10x more everything than men, like biological money-spending drones.
>>538738204Businesses have maximized efficiency and profitability through outsourcing and understanding that the customer is a mindless consumer with 0 standards and endless FOMO. They sell chink trash because Billy Boomer and Mildred Millennial will buy it anyway. Many people buy things expecting them to break after a few uses, and they will bitch all day before just not buying junk.This goes for almost any consumer market, especially software, IT services, and entertainment such as video games. It's enshittification for everything, because you will buy/subscribe anyway.
>>538739951
>>538738520This. If you weren't a youngfag you'd know that the overwhelming majority of tools back in the day were hammered dogshit. Those ones didn't survive the year and ended up in a dump or lake or jammed in the corner of a garage behind a workbench where it's sat for the last 40 years. The only ones you run into in toolboxes at estate sales were the historical equivalent to modern knipex or wera or wiha. In half a century there'll be dumb 20 year olds saying the same exact shit you just said and holding a worn out set of knipex pliers asking that very same question. War never changes anon.
>>538739861No, you're just fucking dumb. Capitalism is a made up word by thieving commie sacks of shit who want to take from people practicing free trade. There is no such thing as "Capitalism" it is a derogatory term made up by socialist/commies against people who aren't thieving sacks of nigger shit. All there is, is free trade and worthless ism niggers who want to steal from productive people practicing free trade. You may not be a commie, but you are as dumb as one.
>>538739980women did not evolve to understand the value of resources. it's why they buy posters that say "live laugh love" while men will buy a heavy duty flashlight
>>538740063Chinkshit in the 80s was still chinkshit. Only retards bought it because you had other choices that were durable and reasonably priced. People like you are just coping with the status quo, or even worse you're just trying to gaslight people into forgetting the past.
>>538740077my favorite part of communism is that they always overlook the last step. most people don't want to work, so if everyone's needs are met, they simply wont. then the economy dies. it really is just about edgy college students who hate the fact that they have to work.
>>538738204unfettered capitalism, unironically
In the past you'd have a hardware store with an intelligent honest white man who would offer you the same tools used by the professionals. Now you just have amazon and big retailers peddling chinesium. If you don't have an electrician friend or relative you can ask, you have to spend hours learning everything about pliers and try to find actual electricians over the internet, discerning them from bots, fake reviews and scam artists. It is the hidden cost of living in a low trust society entering a competency crisis.>You have come to a crossroads, behind you they are pushing and pulling in all the wrong directions, ahead of you they are setting up roadblocks and traps. It was once a perfectly functional road and it took you where you wanted to go. Now it is cluttered with things that don't belong there.>But instead of clearing the obstacles you try to bargain with them. You try to reason with the unreasonable. You are unwilling to use violence against the violent. You believe the stupid can suddenly become smart. You think the holier than thou are actually holier than thou. You have come to a cultural crossroads. You have been provided with everything you need, but now you find yourself unable to perform.>Every path is blocked. If a road is not cleared from time to time, nothing of value will be able to pass and your civilization will get smaller. The largest road is the one that is paved with gold. It is always blocked with greed and garbage. In this series, we will take a closer look at some of the clutter that is blocking your cultural landscape. It is difficult for us to decipher what people really mean when they speak. We are able to tell when they are lying, but not what they are lying about or for what purpose. There is a subtle sophistication to human communication that we cannot recreate. So we present the material as it has been forwarded to us without further commentary or comprehension.
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>>538740195American capitalism is about working and not having your needs met, which is why unemployment goes down only because the labor force participation rate drops. American capitalism is also just communism for billionaires with extra steps. Corpos get government support and citizens are told to eat shit and die.
>>538738204All the companies who made quality stuff went bankrupt. Make your own stuff when possible. There are plenty of crafts which are easy compared to how useful they are like leatherworking, and stuff like making wooden bows which is more fun than useful.
>>538740195As much as I would love to hang commies from bridges, ironically the best punishment for commies would be to make them have to live under communism.
>>538740280That's called fascism sweaty
>>538740219>In the past you'd have a hardware store with an intelligent honest white man who would offer you the same tools used by the professionals.nigga the professionals use cheap tools too because shit always gets lifted or lost on construction sites.
Knipex pliers are the best I've used. Made in Germany.
>>538739252>who the fuck is gonna autistically check reviews for a pair of pliersWho the fuck buys tools without doing any research? Tools are expensive and important. Unless you just need it for one thing and it'll end up in a drawer forever afterwards, in which case buy the cheap shit because it doesn't even matter.
Friend of mine wanted to buy a battery driller, bc he had to hang something on the wall.No advice was taken, he had excuses for everything.Until i said he'd drill the holes, put the machine back, and, in some years, when another hole will have to be drilled, the proprietary battery will be dead.>Eyeclick.gif
>>538740190>durable and reasonably pricedAnything durable was not reasonably priced at any time.>or even worse you're just trying to gaslight people into forgetting the past.On the contrary, you're the one talking out your ass on something you weren't there for. Either that or you didn't actually work or buy tools decades back. Quality tools of any kind were always expensive, and the average weekend warrior made do with tools made of cheese. Even the lowest end tools harbor freight offers today are leagues better than the chinkshit from the 80s and even cheaper when comparing price to average wages.I would have killed for some of the handtools available at harbor freight today compared to the junk I was using when I first started locksmithing in my teens and early 20s.
>>538740565Who hangs shit on walls with screws?He was ngmi
>>538740077The system we are currently under, whatever you want to call it, encourages mass migration, hedonism, globalist wars, big-pharma, outsourcing jobs that belong to citizens, etc, etc.Capitalism is a very apt word because it is a system which perpetuates the worship of capital. Filthy lucre. The proponents to this demonic economic system proudly describe themselves as Capitalists and they will betray their nation, kin, family and God for a single cent’s profit.
>>538740565So just buy a charger?
>>538738204Capitalism and consumerism, and most of the companies are putting out shit quality things either to keep customers returning, or just saving money with cheaper goods.
>>538740715>Capitalism is a very apt wordNo, all that shit is because of governmental meddling.
>>538738204pliers were never supposed to make a cut through wire
>>538740228It's either you recommend something you're fairly certain is still worth recommending, or you tell OP to have some machinist custom make him a pair from some retard strength alloy, that will cost $150 instead of $20.Yeah, Knipex combi pliers cost $20.That's not even expensive.Unless you're some weirdo who wants dollar store tool to pass down the generations.
>>538740661Not the topic, either, as my post, but, depending on weight and expected duration, it"s a good idea to have a sturdy L screw to hang things on. Adhesives go blob.
>>538738204Stop buying low quality products made in the USA
>>538740720Neither.Just a conventional electric wire one.Yes, you may need sometimes a cord extension. Big deal. Extreme comfort and lazyness are driving us straight down. 9.8m/s^2
>>538740834Nails>screws when shear strength is what you're optimizing forAnd you don't need a drill for an L screw lol
>>538739482>cutting guitar strings.you're not supposed to abuse your tools. it is not what they are intended for
>>538738204progressdrill baby drill!
>>538738591You had that way before china
>>538738204Knipex
>>538740973Hmmm i dont think so.The plastic insert holder expands when the screw is screwed. Besides, nailing on brick is shit. Maybe in wood, but not usual wall here.Also, not a pro. Just stating a friend's lack of critical thinking. Thanks anyway.
>>538740756Youre just like the communists who cry “that wasnt real communism”
>>538739372It's useful stable quality, but not peak. Me prefer Hazet, Stahlwille, Gedore and some small tooling companies in Solingen (buy even my shaving blades direct there).
>>538741094>brickwhen in doubt, use chemical anchor
>>538738204the wirecutters on combi-pliers always suck, thats why you get dedicated wire cutters
>>538739482>cutting guitar strings.You need a special cutter (piano wire cutter) wich had so hard blades you cannot use for other things and is's not cheap.
I get old tools from car boot sales and restore them. Can't beat a shiny King Dick spanner.
>>538738204Thats why you save up and get knipex. Ze germans still make good shitIm getn hard right now just looking at this
>>538741229I did once for a heavy thing, but a picture, a light or small things, a screw works for me.As for hammocks, i use metal screw and deformable metal holder, works fine too.Again, not the topic. I dont want to derail the shitty tool globalisation chat! I'm learning! Ty all!
>>538741382wtf that's not even Stanley color schemewere they trolling?
>>538741382Agree. Germans always have been good at metal working.
>>538741097>“that wasnt real communism”Ok, every nonwhite in the West other than Asians (Oriental) are colossal drains on reaources. Explain how that is capitalism driving them here and not the government.
>>538741339Lol, no you don't. I've got cheap $5 string winders with small clippers on the end that I've been clipping my strings with for decades. I know one set has been in one guitar case for almost 20 years. They still work fine, the winder fell off, but the clippers are still great. Pic related, they're cheap as shit.
>>538738204Hey nigger those are my alicates, did you steal from me or something.
>>538739414>They do, Whia and Bhaco off the top of my head.And-Hazet, Facom, Stahlwille.. There's a bunch of really good tools still being made in Europe.
>>5387394801994 lancer 1.6’s are peak performance. Will outlast the happening
>>538741611Good tip thanks.
Might as well ask itt. I haven't worked on cars in 20 years, so I don't have a lot of mechanic tools, just cheap basic stuff. But, I bought an old truck to work on and I've been using my cheap craftsman ratchets and they suck. What are some good ratchets made today? Snap on?
>>538741941Buy a used high quality one. Good tools lasts for decades.
>>538741449Dunno, i used it alot and super strong pliers too. Probably not the same as knipex but love it
>>538740063Not really. You had known good sources like the big department stores (Sears, Monkey-Wards, ) and the tools you found at an auto parts shop or hardware store were far more likely to be domestically made, and of good if not very good quality. The cheap shit was still there, but it was what you found in a J.C. Whitney catalog, or in the discount aisle of a variety store or a K-Mart. Current relabeled Craftsman is not the same Craftsman of then. Not even close. Nowhere near the selection, variety or quality.
I was never a tool guy, I didn't grow up doing like, car repairs or building shit that often, and when I did I always had my dad's garage full of tools from the 70s, with ten million socket heads and different size wrenches all scattered everywhere and stuff. Anyway, when I moved recently, I bought a bunch of basic tools for doing some around-the-house stuff. And my dumb ass is like "Yes, some stuff is super expensive for pro-level quality, whatever that means, but metal is metal and tools are tools." so I bought socket and ratchet set from Walmart because why would I need a pro set for unscrewing some bolts on household stuff? Well, motherfucker, the first time I used one of those on something with some stuck to it, a bolt on my fridge door, the socket literally cracked trying to turn it. The moral of the story is that basically everything that isn't specifically high-end is literally just fake. It's all fake Chinese shit that doesn't work, is designed to break, and you've wasted the money you spent on it. Why? Because what are you gonna do, complain about it? There's 100 million other retards in line behind you who'll buy the shit anyway.
>>538741492Because a capitalist system wants as many consumers as possible and it also thrives off of cheap labour. Import more cheap labour from these poor nations and you also get more consumers. Win win for them.Where will these people live? Will they integrate? Will they displace native communities? The capitalist system doesnt care. So long as (((GDP))) goes up.
>>538741988What brands are high quality today? In the 90s craftsman actually made good stuff. You could find a craftsman ratchet in the dirt and if it didn't work, you could take it to Sears and they would hand you a new one, no questions asked. Plus they just felt better. These today seem loose and just feel shitty, seem to slip.So, what brand is good today?>>538741851Yeah, I opted not to buy a new truck, because they're shit. I found a 1981 Chevy K5 blazer, but now I need tools that aren't shit to work on it.
>>538741941Snap On for the actual drivers, socket adapters and extensions. Their specialty sockets are also very hard to beat. Things like thinwall or glow-plug/ spark-plug sockets, wobble impacts, etc.Otherwise unless you're out in the middle of nowhere or using them to pay your mortgage you can still get a lot done with the cheaper sockets. Some of the people I work with seem to like the H/F "Icon" brand, a couple others use "Husky". But don't cheap out on the actual driver, extension or adapters.
>>538738204Capitalism amd the pursuit of greater and greater monetary returns
>>538742007Stanley is hit or miss for me.I use their hammers, tape measures and knives daily.The only adjustable pliers I had from them were flimsy dogshit though.
>>538738204Because White people in the West, who are supposed to be shining light on earth, have instead of destroying every jew utterly and to the last has chosen to let the jews live and not only that, let the jews control government, schools, media and entertainment along with immigration policy and the jewdicial system.Destroy the jew and the world will again have (1) nice things (2) white people that will recover from being a endangered species / minority of 6% (3) a place in the world for whites and (4) peace and real progress.Destroy the jew.
>>538738204Son of a construction worker here.Basically in the 80s 90s the Chinese started to import their shit to everyone with the added benefit that it's cheaper.Clothes, footwear, toys, school supplies all this bullshit.But then, in the year 1996 state-subsidized steel conglomerates (like Baosteel and Anshan Iron and Steel) were born.So they started recycling steel from everywhere and bought machines from Germany and Japan to mass produce tools.But some tools require specific plastic formulas, sure, you can make buckets, shovels, cups out of raw plastics so they called in DuPoint.Basically this company has the patent of everything that's plastic and many chemicals, so now the raw plastics can be turned into more complex builds such as tool handles and rubber shoes.But why are they so shit you ask?They use filler ingredients such as chalk, they literally dug it out, and polystyrene from landfills.TL:DRChinese niggers flooded the market with cheap shitty tools like CIA niggers did with cheap crack
>>538738204i have shitty old pliers my grandpa brought with him from the soviet union i also have great modern knipex pliers i bought if you need to cut wire use a cutter thats rated for their thickness and material retard
>>538742312I love blazers. Nice square units. Like good rachets and shit? In europe gedore is very good. I thought gedore blue was the profi stuff but i could be wrong
>>538738204Making products that last isn't good for business. You wouldn't buy new ones, think of the shareholders oy vey
>>538742408I have a stanley rachet thats seen alot too. Maybe they have different segments?
>>538739372>>538739619when i was in the military (i was a fire control technician) i made myself a toolbox out of mostly wera and knipex tools great tools
>>538741449orange yellow is standard for all insulated tools
>>538742312Different in the US, buy things Americans recommend. Over here Stahlwille, Gedore Hazet are top, Knipex is one leauge in price and quality below but pretty good. Keep in mind that too good tools attracts the wrong collegues (you literally have to take your Hilti with you to the toilet on a jobsite over here). So better tools on your own shop, mid quality for the road.
>>538738204you have to take things in context. you can buy cheap tools and they will be shit. People in the past had no access to shitty tools because they were not made. You can buy high quality tools just like what was available in the past, you will pay more of course just like people had to invest in tools before. the question is if you want a tool just for a job and don't think you will use them again will you invest in the high quality tools and buy them for every job needed or will you just buy some cheap ones for the job and don't' care if they fall apart?
>>538739252I check reviews on everything. Reviews and delivery is what made Amazon. It’s foolproof and the more obscure a product the riskier it is.
>>538743791*not foolproof
>>538743569Knipex pliers are above everyone, hans
>>538739372Game changer.
>>538738204I still have my TE-33 from 40 years ago. Still works great.
>>538743791Dont order on amazon. Just look for official webshops of toolshops. Amazon is always shit
>>538743497shit, that makes sense
>>538743980Whats a te33? The numbers, mason??
Consider the following:
>>538738815I can pay more. And I do. It's nice being relatively smart and American.
>>538738204jews use chinks and other third worlders for manufacturing cuz it saves them penniesit also weakens the White man since it removes their ability to self sustainwin win for jews
>>538744401I love tools
>>538738904 >knipexEngineer (Vampliers in the US) is also a good brand that I initially thought was some made-in-China garbage, but they're actually Japanese (made in Japan too), and their pliers are almost Knipex tier quality with proper hardening, solid construction, etc.
>>538741155You mean this one? I think Solingen is known for steel blades, knives, razors, etc. and Wuppertal (written on that Knipex cobra) for high quality tools. Right?
>>538739514It's not silent. Also you guys pronounce Wiha, Wera and Siemens (this one is funny) wrong too.
>>538746419I like jap tools too, but germans are my kinfolk, i gotta sponsor them where i can. Also unironically milwaukee i sponsor the usa and china. And japan for chain cutting toolThank i for me serviceYou’re welcome
>>538738204Jews>why is supply chain so ridiculously long and full of middle manJews>shrinkflationJews>hoeflationJews>dog eating my homeworkTrained to do so by jews.
>>538742133>Because a capitalist system wants as many consumers as possible>Import broke niggers so they buy our shit. Oh but wait, niggers get welfare. Which is from the government...
>>538746631Solingen is a city in Germany anon.
>>538746892Ok, that's why I mentioned it in the same sentence as Wuppertal.
>>538740063>historical equivalent to modern knipexSo, Knipex?>Wera, Wihalol, gets scammed by Chinesium sold to him by Goymans.
>>538747129So the answer is yes, it is known for high quality steel.
Authentic Vampliers (often sold under the brand Vampire Tools) are manufactured in Japan.You just like thing because Japan tm. Not because being able to cut drywall screws means not having to Walk up and down a ladder for another tool.
>>538738204Idk man I've bought a lot of really inexpensive but pretty high quality tools from China in the past year.
That's a industrial steal cable for anti thief. Just go back in if one's in the bag.Snip. That's not going to fucking happen I left and paid for it.
>>538738204they want you keep buying new ones instead of just one and than another one like 20 years laters
>>538746631Remscheid is the tool city, but they're all in the same area
>>538747587Engineer and cheaper and literally the same.I bought some random Milwaukee pliers from home Depot (ofc the china ones) and the cutter blade got a huge dent after cutting some Romex once lol. So shite.Got some engineer now
Dremel, anyone? I use it alot
>>538748106Oh I see, thanks. I didn't know that.
>>538741913Been a while since I saw a reply like this.
>>538738204shit chinese quality incl steel that doesnt have the correct mix of alloys or carbon
Frogs, why make this and how to get this shit out?
>>538738487fp+1bp/threadit's not too late unless the chinesium is already in your building structures, everything else can be replaced with real things not made of chinesium, and hey it could be worse, you could've been born in the land of chinesium where even chinesium is too expensive and they make buildings out of literally s o y esium
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