How can you be a white nationalist?For national socialism, the problem is obvious. Both historical national socialist policy as well as philosophy. National socialism is a nordicist movement, its only purpose is to strengthen and multiply the nordics/germanics at the expense of everyone else. Mein kampf ch14>"We will stop the eternal Germanic migration to the south and west of Europe we have seen in the past and look toward the land in the east.">"The mission of the National-Socialist movement is to give our people the political insight needed so they do not see their future aim in the romantic image of a new campaign by Alexander the Great, but they see their future working busily at the German plow for which the sword will provide the soil."So national socialism saw eastern europe as its own great plains to expand into and plunder. in fact, Hitler supported japan over russia in their war before WW2. There is certainly an argument to be made that national socialism is an anti-white movement.
>>538763798okay, you say, but maybe modern day national socialism is different. Let's see what one of if not the most prominent modern day national socialist organization (or ex organization) has to say
Hey Mouhammhead al MarxiTell us more about the jew, why does he wear the kippah
>>538763861fine, maybe we don't need national socialism at all. Let's look to what germanics do when they create a country from scratch. what ideology takes hold?Oh would you look at that, it's nordicism. in fact, it is pioneered there and actually inspired the nazis. Proper american white nationalists are some of the most true believer nordicists ever.
>Russia>White
it's not rocket scienceit's just nationalism and the ingroup is white people
>>538763798It’s been 100 years. MOVE ON.
>>538763980okay. but that was a hundred years ago, who cares? they all put that behind them and today everyone is getting together to save the white race dude!oh...no. they still look down on any non-germanic, in fact they see you as a backwards subhuman still stuck in the middle ages.
>>538764073fun theory, doesn't work when half the ingroup hates the other half. And that's putting it mildly.
>>538763798>Viewing your ancient lands as your rightful clay is bad
sup; i care deeply about abstract ideasthat's why i come to 4chanto debate and deeply engage with abstract ideas
>>538763980Nordics were raping and pillaging for thousands of years after mediterraneans invented western civilization. They just recently became civilized and now think theyre special...
>Alfred rosenberg wondered in his 1927 work The Future of German Foreign Policy (Der Zukunftsweg einer deutschen Aussenpolitik) if the Italians had enough “Aryan” blood in their veins to make the fascist experiment succeed. Rosenberg claimed in his address inaugurating the 1934 academic year at the University of Munich that Europe had received its culture “five times consecutively from the ‘Nordic epicentrum.’”
i recognize you from beforekeep up the good work frenbest thread on /pol/ right nowbumpiriniooo
>>538764260see? that's exactly my point. How can you be a white nationalist? how can you form an alliance of any kind when part of the group views the other part as squatters who should be dispossessed of their lands, and when that is not the case, they still look down at them implicitly? Call yourself a germanic supremacist, call yourself a national socailist if that's what you want and believe in. But white nationalism is incoherent because of the seething resentment germanics and more broadly northwesterners have towards anyone who is not them
>>538764421yeah it's just odd. when you really get down to it i don't understand how this board is so broadly accepting of "White nationalism" when it is so clearly an impossible ideology. To germanics, if you're a slav you're a barbaric retard, if you're italian or greek you're brown, if you're baltic you're likely asian, if you're iberian you're no different to a moroccan, if you're from the balkans you're both brown AND a barbaric retard.
>>538764626I'm playing for my team and my interests.
>>538764992lovely, just remember the olive branch you extend to your brothers when they send out the black and tans after you again
>>538765048bodied that freak
>>538764626Actually it’s pretty easy to understand why this board crystallizes towards white nationalism. The right is extremely diverse which causes endless friction and a lack of common ground. When you take a groyper, a traditional alt right winger, a conservative, a neocon, and a Christian nationalist, nothing unites them except a diffuse belonging to the white race and the west. This explains why this board fixates so much on race, because they have nothing else that binds them to right wing allies. I agree, traditional racism in the national socialism flavor won’t fly anymore. This ship has sailed long time ago. However, nothing prevents contemporary right wingers to form a new ideology which would be called post national socialism which has a more lose concept of acceptable races. Chuds will argue that it’s impossible to form a coherent in group when you’re not focused on one singular race, however the influx of more and more third worlders make it painfully obvious how close westerners are, even though they look differently. 1930 a German and a Romanian would be a stark contrast because third worlders did not really exist in the minds of people. Nowadays, everyone knows how Indians look and smell and so the contrast between a German and a Romanian is not so stark anymore.
>>538765589maybe so, and that is what you would expect, but i just do not see how such an alliance is in any way politically viable given the deeply held contempt a lot of germanics (not just germans, also british, scandinavians, etc) have towards slavs, meds and more. There are exceptions, but it is definitely a real phenomenon.
>>538753117>le hitler and no one else killed 6 gorillion white men memehey retardthe same guy in your discord raid group just made the same threadtry to space them out a bit next time so that it's not so obvious
>>538765799i'm not part of any discord server, maybe that guy is and he copied my thread, or there could just be a coincidence.
>>538765709You don’t see it yet. And maybe you won’t see it for decades but it will come in my opinion. Take a look at the rise of the right in the US and Europe. These are all neocons, who are sucking their voting cattle dry. Trump does this, Titty Meloni does this, the AfD will do this once they’re in power, even Rupert Lowe runs defense for immigration. When you think this further ahead, then you will see that the living conditions for westerners are doomed to decline. When things get really bad I’m convinced we will see a revival of national socialism that forms some kind of brotherhood between western groups simply because the pure Oldschool national socialism is simply not strong enough to survive in an already globalized world.
>>538763798Let me guess ....... you think 'Hitler' was a real person, right? Like Willie Wonker, right?
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>>538763798damn that nose knows. No wonder so many white euroaches followed him to die for israel
>>538763798>There is certainly an argument to be made that national socialism is an anti-white movement.It's a pro-germanic book, yes.How can it be anti-white when it teaches about the expansion of the greatest of the white people?
>>538766576it's anti white because it hates on other types of white people.
>>538764475>when part of the group views the other part as squatters who should be dispossessed of their landsSlavs should just go back to where they come from, we don't want to extinguish them. They have a place in deeper Russia and Kazakhstan.
>>538766656Not really, Hitler really just wanted the Germanic peoples to have a well-deserved piece of the pie.
>>538766714lol. be a nationalist with this. form an alliance with this
>>538766796You sound anti-germanic
>>538766775well deserved according to whom? he just wanted to make his country into a superpower out of sheer entitlement, nothing else. According to his own ideology, nothing but might can conquer and hold territory. he lost the struggle of might
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>>538766856>well deserved according to whom?History
>>538766841i am not. i am against germanic expansionism within europe and their hatred for slavs
>>538766910they lost
>>538766929Most Germans don't think about Slavs at all if anything we love Slavs>i am against germanic expansionismSo am I for the moment
>>538767038lol? british for example left the eu because they were against more fucking poles immigrating. You can't even say it's some confusion between romanians and gypsies and that's why, no they hate poles. slavs. it's also a common sentiment among germanics that non germanics are inferior.
>>538764421It genuinely is the best thread rnI'm bumping as well, just for the soul.
>How can you be a white nationalist?Jews and niggers
>>538763798im not an ethno nationalist because my ethnos is a subcategory of race racism > nationalism > family > friends > romans > cunty men > you get da fuggin idea
>>538763980The irony about him was in that book he was against another European war and said white peoples need peace between ourselves, this is the guy that spent a lot of his time calling Southern and Eastern Europeans racially inferior and calling for their restriction into the US. Just strange.
>>538770717>racism > nationalism > family > friends > romans > cunty men > you get da fuggin ideai feel like im more confused now. what's wrong with romans?
>>538763798>national socialismStopped reading there commie
>>538763798Encourage ethnic nationalism and astroturf remigration campaigns among them so they deport themselves
>>538770970its a play on words meaningless friends, romans, countrymenit's a phrasebuuuut David Lane had some eloquent things to say about the decline of the Roman Empire (racial)
>>538763798No it isn't antiwhite by virtue of having looting as the business plan...why that would make the United States of hating White People LE BAD!
>>538772468I pledge allegiance to the hatred of white people,and to the blacks for which it stands,one migration for all,with White extracted gibs and goyslop for all
>>538767169Of course it's a common Germanic sentiment to assert supremacy. It's merited and observed. When I enter the workforce I see more mishaps with nons and lower rank Whites than with kin. Germany has much to be proud of and we see ye do not.
Hitler wasn't a white nationalist.
>>538773276yeah but that's why Hitler 2 is better and Hitler 3 is unfathomable
