It's not "God".It's child abuse.Always.
>>538775752dogmatic materialism is kinda annoying agnostic antitheism is the way
>>538775752ok that's enough internet for me today
>>538775977>One internet.
>>538775752>SnortNah bruh, it's God.>Water bubbling sound>ExhaleGenesis 1:29 bro, it's in tbe beginning of the Bible.God says drugs are cool, ok?
That sounds like a cope for addicts desui was basically my older brothers freinds onahole when i was a preteen and actively chose drugs and alcohol to copenobody forced the bottle down my throat though
>>538775752$100 says the Jung quote was taken out of context, and was originally talking about hallucinogenic substances.
>>538776313Jeez anon
>>538775752I had a great childhood though and a caring supportive family. My addiction is my own fuckup.
>>538775752Damn... Stefan did a serious mental gymnastic here.
>>538776313You're proving the point. I got repeatedly molested for 7 years by a cousin jailed for others and my family doesn't care and never has. Drank for 25 years starting at 12 and quit a few ago. Reorganizing your mind to survive is what forces you into addictions, it isn't a failure to admit that. I can barely function with other people i have such strong defenses. Been socially isolated for decades to the point even transactions can be tough
>>538779201>drank for 25 yearsYou've got molested by alcohol for 25 years.
i wasnt abused as a child and ive gone though like 4 addictions in my life
>>538779321were you circumcised?
>>538779306No, memeflaggot kike, I was repeatedly betrayed by every adult in my life as a child that should have seen obvious signs of abuse. When a 12 year old is drinking and drugging, they aren't the cause.
>>538779381Fuck you. I'm not reading your stupid reply, because I know you have nothing of value to contribute. Bye.
>>538775752Fucking therapy niggers gotta make everything so dramatic. Abuse this higher power that. Can't a guy just be bored? Show me the child abuse with birds that get drunk off of berries. Have you talked to your catnip fiending cat about Jesus?
>>538775752I definitely wasn't searching for God when I destroyed my heart with vodka. It just made things more enjoyable.
>>538779416>memeflaggot kike is mad he is found out
>>538779201Outside of your use case i picked up the bottle and a cocktail of drugs intentionally out of shame but i chose that as an adult does it steer you towards that lifestyle? Definitely but you have to do your due diligence and break the cycle substance abuse and pedophilia If not you will commit the same crimes
All drug addictions are caused by a lack of intelligence and discipline.Stupid people with no self control destroy their lives with all kinds of shit. Child abuse is an excuse, as is religion. Stop taking accountability away from people for fucking themselves and other people's lives up. Every single person on this earth is accountable for their own actions. You fucked up, you own the fuck up, and that's it.You don't get to blame anyone else for being a retard.I beat alcoholism by taking accountability for myself and I stopped being a loathing self-pitying asshole. Grow up. Even if you're 60 or 70 years old, GROW THE FUCK UP. If you're 6yo, 16yo, 36yo, whatever. Grow up, take accountability for your life. If you want sympathy, find it in the dictionary.
Why is blaming everything child abuse so trendy nowdays even when it makes no sense or is directly contradicted?
>>538779321> i wasnt abused as a childYou may not dare to remember it.
>>538779526Most of my trouble with relationships is ever being interpreted as being aggressive or creepy, so it inevitably happens. Having things happen later as an adult out of shame isn't any different, your reorganizations just let you not succumb to substances sooner. I tried all of them that have a name and aren't outright crap like jenkem at some point in my life. Glad I didn't really like hard stimulants but most of my childhood friends are in and out of jail or dead now. I'm the only one that got a degree and real job other than a couple. Your first post just hit me particularly hard because I had a best friend who I'm sure abused his sister and I was very close with both of them. Their mother was nuts and their grandmother obviously couldn't control anything. She always felt so safe with me and spent time with me, knowing I would never be able to actually harm her
>>538779611>the main outcome of abuse known for decades is trendy nowWhat's trendy is being 'disabled'. I would love to be able to better control most stressors feeling like life threatening incidents and work again, I'm 'slipped through the cracks' of a system that just wants to pimp drugs and statuses
>>538775752That guy is really still an ancap coping that muh evolutionary science is real and morality is subjective but he can make up universal principles for them, huh?
>>538779736>the only one that got a degree and real job other than a couple. good to hear im the same way from parents who both got sexually abused although i basically cannot hold a candle to what happened to my father, but he steeled himself and became a quite successful football player by simply grit and i subscribe to his ethosI went out of my way to go to college and uni i suppose as a reaction similar to you because i dont nor want to have kids faced with a similar situation Molestation happens in poverty and stiff upper lip richy rich families so if i can avoid both well thats fine
>>538780066I've been out of work for a couple years now unfortunately. Wasn't bumming assistance or anything, traded stock. Had to start fighting a lawsuit and now going broke. Just a good reminder things don't get better just because you quit using substances. I would have liked to had children, I wouldn't if I was poor. My parents both messed up badly in their own ways but least weren't sexually abusive. I just wish someone would actually care about me at this point. It's been 13 years since I've had any kind of 'date' and was too put of shape before from booze calories to even consider it. People can't even conceive what it is like to develop with 'support' fighting against you
>>538775752Smoking weed because mom was mean
>>538780243>I've been out of work for a couple years now unfortunately. Wasn't bumming assistance or anything, traded stockIve been pathologically been a wagie since i was 14 i cant have idle hands which is probably from trauma honestly it legitimately drives me nuts if im not doing something even if it actively damages me, its a hard thing to explain but i know for a fact it isn't born from an abstract idea as "work ethic">I would have liked to had children, I wouldn't if I was poor. My parents both messed up badly in their own ways but least weren't sexually abusive. I just wish someone would actually care about me at this point.I agree but anon as little as this is worth i care about you and i think your life will win simply because i believe it to be so, because you deserve it Its times like this im glad ive spent 18 years on this site while only being 32
>>538780880Not being able to be idle is probably CPTSD. I like controlled chaos and stimulus. I drive and smoke cigarettes, have YouTube on while I play a video game, always doing something. I hate authority that is ignorant though. I usually got fired from any wagie job for getting angry. Not violent, just angry
>>538776313based teen fuckers
>>538775752There's definitely just a type of personality that gets addicted to stuff. It has to do with chemicals or genetics or something. Some guys can have an otherwise perfect life, but they absolutely have to drink until they shit their pants every day. It's really no more complicated than that.
>>538781071That form is extremely rare. Usually people are suppressing trauma or guilt. Trauma can form a lot of undue guilt as well. I drank enough that hangovers themselves caused waves of guilt when I knew I didn't do anything wrong the night before.
>>538781127I'm not saying environment has nothing to do with it, just that it's retarded to say ALL addiction is from child abuse or searching for God or whatever.
>>538775752it could be>still act like i`m 14>extremely hard to get close to>can`t stand to be touched or hugged not even by friends or family, i actually twitch>i tolerate it by gf`s>don`t like to have things in my mouth, not even food>i eat as fast as humanly possible to get it over with>lying about everything since i was like 5>started with glue when i was 9>was a junkie for over 30 years, but not using anymore>first serious gf when i was 12 and she was 12>then it got pretty weird 14-12, 16-13, 17-12, 19-18 after people started to comment on it, then 24 and fresh out of jail -15, 31-17 and my last before covid 36-16so yes, it probably is, though i will never know as just the suspicion is shitty enoughreal proof would make me fuck up even more of my life so i`m good not knowing
>>538779201>>538779424>>538779435people drink because they like it and it feels good. the sob stories are just nonsense
>>538781053>like controlled chaos and stimulus. I drive and smoke cigarettes, have YouTube on while I play a video game, always doing something.I do not think i can handle that much of a sensory information bomb id erk out instantly lmao> I hate authority that is ignorant though. I usually got fired from any wagie job for getting angry. Not violent, just angryI think i was lucky jumping into the food industry and just working beyond insane and illegal hours to cope but i was able to achieve the maximal of that trade (exec chef job so super stressful) but i was institutionalized for a while after i burnt out Im good now though
>>538781196Of course not, just saying I've been around everyone from those who can keep hard drug usage social to pee pants Paul who pissed his pants in his miata every night. Any of them can have traumas and any could be a rare genetic factor purely to addiction. What is usually not considered by most, however, is traumas physical and mental, in childhood at any age, rewire the brain and hard.
>>538781241Yes, anon, it did feel very good and took away my pain, for awhile, then it was medicine for it, then it was life.
>>538776746jung was a schizo geniuswhatever the context was, the person who quoted it is just some soulless, opportunistic freak farming content
>>538775752I wasn't abused as a child and became a junky for a few years. I blame black hip hop musc for making dope seem cool. And fent that actually got me hooked. But the hip hop, and jew hollywood movies for making me want to try it in the first place. I live in BC which was ground zero for fent, so I didn't even know what it was when the normal real oxy got replaced with those.Anyways I overcame that, worked for a while, and now just started a so far successful small business.
>>538775752Not an argument Stefan. Please provide evidence to back your assertion.
>>538776313>actively chose drugs and alcohol to copeBecause they stopped, right? It was the trauma of them dumping you?
Molymemes life is one unending projection.
>>538781392I had to be hypervigilant and have a sharp memory to survive because no one else would name the truth and i rarely got any repsonse from adults unless it was anger that required a response. I would imagine you had to remain silent or unobserved. I actually end up becoming 'furniture' and invisible in public if I'm quiet. What most call calm is annihilation to my system
>>538781392Also get the feeling you prefer direction with that kind of job mindset. I did IT support and hated life with every incident repeated by user ignorance. I loved computers as a kid because they only do exactly what they're told. Took a long time to not treat people that way and I still have a lot of issues communicating meaning in speech or feeling understood
>>538776313Anon please be easier on yourself, you survived a lot. Most people never have to deal with that level of maliciousness in their entire life much less as a child. So fuck anyone casting judgement, they don’t have a clue. Hope you’re doing better now and off that stuff. It’s 100% understandable why you wanted to turn your brain off for a bit after experiencing that, it’s not a character flaw. If anything you’re stronger than the average person for persisting and not giving up.
>>538781775>Also get the feeling you prefer direction with that kind of job mindsetYeah thats true i developed a chip on my shoulder and an ego to prove im better than anyone but it did work out to a degree because effort rewards effort. But looking back on it i probably should have gone to therapy or something over wasting half my current life cookingOh well hindsight 20/20 I think my biggest gripe is i cant punch someone for my life
>>538781775speak from the heart, mate.can’t go too far wrong there
>>538775752What if someone is addicted to child abuse
Remember, kids, pattern recognition is antisemitic.Please take note of the character of animeface posters.
>>538781923>Anon please be easier on yourselfHey give me credit i worked my way out of blaming myself but thank you anon that means alot to me for whatever thats worth on 4chud dot net
>>538776313Hot
>>538776313Faggot.
>>538775752Not mutually exclusive
>>538782141they call that a minor attracted person, a rebranding of nambla.
>>538783027No, we call them "minor attracted pedophiles."
>>538783027All jokes aside, how the fuck can someone be attracted to minors? Makes no sense
>>538783179They aren't.They're actually molestation victims using spreading their fucking disease as a coping mechanism.All pedophiles are faggots.
>>538783179They arent they just want to destroy and kill something vulnerable The overlap between animal abusers and pedos is a venn diagram which is a circle
>>538776313I only drank a handful of occasions until I was 33. Decided to get sake for new years and now seven years later I drink half a bottle of 100 proof vodka a night, 0 hangover too. Just now i'm down to one 750 ml bottle of rum a week. In a way problem drinking is worse than full blown alcoholism, atleast alchies have support groups and a tragic lifestyle. I'm just a boring fag who likes to watch pirated movies and booze all night.
>>538783179they say most pedos are the product of abuse. and it's an open secret about faggots that they target minors. don't forget trannies who exclusively groom minors. so yea abuse seems to be a common element. previously they were dealt with but now they're paraded around and glamorized. the social re-correct is going to be harsh. pride before the fall amirite??
>>538775752False. You can fall into an addiction without having been abused. Especially addictions with a chemical component. Opioids for example>prescribed oxy after surgery>take it as directed>prescription runs out>find yourself in immense pain all over since that's what happens when you're on an opioid for some time and then go off it>seek out more of it to make the pain go awayCongrats you're now an opioid addict.
>>538776313why didn't you call the cops after the first time you fucking retardI bet you never did and the fucking freak is still free to roam the earth unpunishedyou know his name and will never forget it, so look it up and see for yourselfI despise people like you who claim to be "victims for years" when you easily could have prevented it yourselfyou could have prevented it from happening another time, or better yet, prevent someone else from meeting the same fate>I was scared to tell anyonekill yourself
>>538783261>>538783320>>538783335I get that but i was abused as a child and it had the opposite effect on me. I just dont understand wanting to spread that on to the youth
>>538783355i didn't and why would my immediate response to call the police? put yourself in my shoes if someone your parents dote on and your older brother is bffs with and he tells you its fine then what is your recourse as an 8 yoImmediately grab a landline and dial 911? i just rolled with the motions and didnt do anything about it over the course of 3 years because i just accepted it
I don't think I was abused so much as I was gatekept by histrionic boomers who never wanted me to take a chance and now I can't even make a phonecall without it stressing me out, I still do it but I fucking hate it.
>>538783496Considering the frequency with which people just paint themselves into the same column no matter the chosen affliction, I'd venture that you're just not jewish enough.
>>538783575No one cares about the lamentations of a drug addicted tranny faggot.
>>538783575What part of "no" are you not fucking getting? There is no future in begging for acceptance. Take that shit out back and shoot it.Then do the same to everyone else that wronged you, retard. Maybe then you'll figure out that venting anonymously is retarded shit that doesn't help anyone except the perpetrator.
>>538783496i mean sexual abuse exclusively. by today's terms i was abused (beatings, verbal, latchkey kid) but i just understood it as part of life and not unusual.i can't imagine being sexually abused but the rumor is ellen page was diddled, became a lesbo, then trooned out. sa is common with dykes becoming dykes
>>538781925Therapy does little for me in over 30 years off and on. Regular modalities seek to produce 'calm' and that is fear inducing to me. Reducing my sensitivity to stimulus or deprivation of it makes a panic attack because there is nothing to trust at the other side. The last therapist I had got fired after forcing white noise when I said it makes me furious with rage or inescapable like static. I first got molested at 3 while being given a bath, those white noise generators on top of just being aggravating are like rushing water from a faucet. A therapist forcing a stimulus is hardly a safe place and just triggering of symptoms all over again
>>538776313I'm sorry to hear that, sounds evil. but you had sex>>538781070my thoughts exactly >>538783355Leaf probably liked it to keep it going even if its a girl>>538782804agreed
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>>538782858not sure what you mean but I agree?not everyone that likes Adult things is a victim of the sexual abuse pandemic drugs can be delicious, but it doesn't mean that anyone took my ass. Marijuana kills
Haha, not always, Stefan!For me it was abuse while I was an adult!Funny enough once I got away from the abuse, I got away from the addiction I was using to self-medicate.
Jung is equally as shitty as freud, just with better PR
>>538781925Violence is also as bad of channel as becoming an abuser yourself unless you're truly defending yourself. Excercise that's aggressive is good, controlled intimacy with someone who can actually be trusted is better than most realize and impossible for many. The only long term girlfriend I ever had only cared about sex and detached totally after demanding I 'open up'. She then couldn't connect why sex wasn't so enthusiastic after her 'talk to your grandma that thinks your cousin did nothing wrong even though he's in prison' didn't make me assured she loved me as she said. Rather than being violent or hating women from that new crap, my response to her wanting to 'try toys' right after things were obviously not great once is that I find i have no issue with them, I'd just very much like to combine it with restraint. >oh, you want toys?>let's strap one to you for half an hour anf prevent you from moving unless you use the safe wordShe wasn't down
>>538783847Let me ask you this, "victim": Do you live in a Latin American shithole where the rapist threatened the lives of your family or loved ones?don't try to guilt my comedy shitpost with manners bullshit backed by society motherfucker
>>538783575no but tell your parents maybe? you even said they were both victims themselves?
>>538778964You might think that. women are wicked anon. you have no idea what they're willing to do to infants. just because.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwdE7x1t_nQ>Women crave for being loved, not for loving. They scream out at you for sympathy all day long, they are incapable of giving any in return, for they cannot remember your affairs long enough to do so... They cannot state a fact accurately to another, nor can that other attend to it accurately enough for it to become information. Now is not all this the result of want of sympathy?... I am sick with indignation at what wives and mothers will do of the most egregious selfishness. And people call it all maternal or conjugal affection, and think it pretty to say so. No, no, let each person tell the truth from their own experience.Letter to Mary Clarke Mohl (13 Dec 1861), published in Florence Nightingale on Women, Medicine, Midwifery and ProstitutionJung knew and so did Lynch. I saw a woman slam her baby's head against the ceiling on a plane because she was tired and it was crying. the first thump was an accident and she noticed something and then whacked it again on purpose. did you go to daycare? daycare is a concentration camp for children.dollars to donuts your mom is evil because all moms are evil and your dad was a weak cuck simp because evil women choose weak cuck simps in order to control them.
>>538783320It's about viokent control, yes. It's the similar rage of trauma directed inward most create directed outward instead. Unless someone is just an actual retard or completely evil
>>538779611daycare nigger. read a fucking book (not those books)
>>538779611folic acid is added to children's cereal and recommended to all pregnant mothers BECAUSE they KNOW that it blocks folate and causes all kinds of massive debilitating life long problems.
Moly has some good points
>>538783847free gangbang, cunt my stripper adventures come out of pocket, and I risk this bitch ass society making me hire a lawyer to defend me from the "victim" groped stripper plus prison rape and having to register as an offender and have NPCs put a target on my back eat shit
>>538779611Diapers aren't even necessary it's a "humiliation ritual"
>>538779611baby formula is corn syrup
>>538783575Don't bother with people like who you replied to. My own family has known about my abuse for 20 years, my cousin went to prison for someone else even, to most of them, he did nothing wrong.
>>538775752Stefan is like a 60+ yo teenager permanently stuck in his “self help” phase.
>>538783995Yeah they want you to open up until you do and then you're weak for having been put in a situation you had no control in as a child. Good luck in the future, hombre.
I broke my elbow when i was around 11 yo and i remember getting a patch or shot of morphine and feeling something like an orgasm before ever jacking off or fuckin. That's the main reason i got addicted later on.
>>538783752My dad was a functional alcoholic so I got verbal and physical directly at home too. I got sexually abused from so young I was probably 12 before I even realized how wrong what was happening was. I knew it wasnt wasn't right, but a child doesn't think like an adult. I literally do not form connection or see relationships the same way 'normal' people do. I almost exclusively get noticed or seen by others who were abused in some way subconsciously. Those colliding usually makes for further poor relationships
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>>538784240Sgt hatred was a character I liked for a reason. The shitposter here would wonder why
>>538784401Because you're a child diddling fat faggot fuck.
>>538784240I asked her to hold my arms down once while she was on top of me. That's it, very simple. She wouldn't put up any resistance and thought I was trying to hit her when I expected it and she wouldn't. That's when she wanted me to 'open up'. This is of course, a super liberal, love is love, abort everything because I just wanna broad too. I even told her that if something like that had happened to her I obviously had space for it
>>538784572>not fat>never diddled anyone nor want toNo, dipshit, it's because he found a way to conquer his demons and had it ripped from him. He also became a fiddler because of government experiments. It ia also a form of relief to have humor about it that isn't >durr diddler
>>538784260Hmm, kinda glad I jacked off before I could cum now. Opiates I did like, but not to that degree
>>538783847Well, I hope you stay okay even if you left because of jerks
>>538775752wtf moleyneux mean by that?
>>538783575oooh ouch you were 8? that's fucked up. you were strong to hold it you should not have you know what the difference between you and me is? I would have absolutely cried bloody murder because I trusted in my loving parents, and they weren't idiots that say "don't cuss watch Disney" and shit I would say some bad shit, but I'm taking a shit right now and your holes man. its your person, your soul your bodyreal sorry to hear that. now you can tell yourself its just sex and you had mercy if it helps you heal, but that should definitely not happenyou are not alone, good people even on here defend the innocents all the time.
>>538775752Stefan embraced Christianity so even he was seeking God
>>538776313I wish I could give you a hug, anon. You didn't deserve that shit happening to you. No one does. I hope you're doing much better these days.
>>538784671>it's not my fault>if I stop diddling kids that makes me a good guy!No, you're a degenerate fatass and you deserve to die.
>>538784277What was your sexual abuse like bro? Mine was my female baby sitter when i was like 7 or 8
>>538784975You don't know the faggot you stupid bitch, this is hollow meaningless faff, which tells me you are also a faggot.
>>538776313Sorry to hear that. I hope you find peace one day brother
>>538784998>conflating the poster with a fictional character and its universeAnon, take your schizophrenia meds.
>>538784975I guess its inappropriate for me to suggest to go to church, seeing the catholic church is full fo pedos. but the air conditioning of a church feels like a healing, pokemon hospital.you do a lot not giving a victim a hug, with holding contact. after my words that I take back I hope I'm not being an idiot.if I remember my childhood, I was lucky. there was a lot of evil, don't talk to strangers kind of thing going on. I absolutely hate that shit and my thoughts and prayers are with victims and survivors.nothing bad ever happened to me. do unto others. I guess its ok if you don't hug him/her right now. do unto others.you have the internet to reason, scare/threaten would be offenders and idiots right now. if you want to do justice and prevention because thoughts and prayers aren't enough I don't find anything else righteous to honestly say I'm sorry
>>538785004My older male cousin that is obviously a repressed faggot because of his mother's overly retarded church groomed me from about 3 when it was for some reason decided he should bathe me on Christmas when my mom had thrown up on me from just getting sick. Maybe drinking a little but she felt bad enough she never drank around me or my sister until we were adults after that. He always framed it as being 'educational' and it was typically limited to him fondling me and holding me down. When I was old and big enough to know how wrong it was I beat him up and said I would say something if it didn't stop. So he started molesting kids in his youth group and got caught. I got fondled pretty much every holiday or family get together for 7-8 years. I was in so much distress at 8 I had regressed toilet training and was simply yelled at, spanked, and treated like a problem for it. No one ever asked what was wrong, even when my cousin got convicted. Now my family pretends it didn't happen or they block it out unless I'm there and then just don't say anything. My grandparents gave land to him to build a house i was forced to help construct. I had to help construct my grandparents house i was molested in the most.
>>538785267God damn man im sorry to read all that. You make my abuse seem like nothing. My baby sitter invited one of her friends over one and they had me suck on their tits in the pool and they licked my little peener. Doesnt sound like much but it has given me ED problems a lot as an adult for whatever reason
>>538785053you can deny all you like, faggot.
>>538785366My grandparents would visit me and have lunch on their way to visit him in prison. I'd have to hear about how unjust it was. My only hope is getting most of their estate or house when they die in the next likely decade or less, but my dad is a pussy and likely will give the house to his brother that fathered the pedo and didn't stick around after the mom cheated on him. My uncle is my grandma's favorite and my cousin was born first so I never had a chance. The most effort at connection my father has ever made was making excuses for himself being harsh saying he didn't know about me being molested about 15 years ago. Helping me financially or listening to my advice for him in retirement that works is out of the question though
>>538785420>engage with my Kafka trap!When did you decide to stop beating your wife?
>>538775752I smoke a ton of weed because I'm bored, uneventful childhood
Wonder if his daughter is a cutie.
>>538785591God damn man. Hang in there brother. I hope peace and tranquility finds you soon
>>538785735On your experience though, I do recall a gal in school who got tits very early and felt sad because of everyone making fun of her or focused only on that because they were big, adult floppies for a pre teen. She forced my face into them one summer day at the park enough i couldn't breathe. They were very sweaty. Maybe that's why I like smol booba
>>538785980Yeah sweaty tits smells like when you scratch your balls after a long day and smell your fingers
>>538775752both can be truechild abuse shatters your consciousness, the search for 'god' is the search for the self.paradoxically, re-shattering your mind and piecing it back together yourself improves upon the way someone broke you and pressed you back together incorrectly on purpose. (ie religious indoctrination).We aren't like clay pots that are weakened by the reforming and daintily held together through wabi-sabi though, we are biological and metamorphic beings that can melt down and become something new and better in our cocoons.
>>538783355they always use the term "my" rapist.I would never refer to "my" carjacker. my home invader. it would be "they" who burglared my home. distancing language. NEVER my butt bungler
