Economic pain is already inevitable. Yet the strikes are still piling on the pressure further.
>>538794367Good. Upcoming civil war and famine are incoming to ziggers
>>538794367Here's a vid of ithttps://files.catbox.moe/5rue4v.mp4
Typical Russian:>America must burn! They are conspiring to destroy us. They are jealous of our natural resources!Typical American:>Yes, I've heard of Russia. People there drink vodka, right? Uh, let me see if I can find it on the map. I've heard it's below the freezing cold place called Serbia.
>>538794453I really hope ukraine keeps up with the attacks and they end up getting nuked. Even a low yield nuke would be impressive on camera.
Realistically how does Russia escalate? Like they obviously can't just sit there and do nothing, but what haven't they already hit in Ukraine so far?
>>538794367>oil prices going higher is bad for russia>memeflag
Uhg loonely troons truly love dead ukrainian children, heck I bet these pervets would love to "play" with them as every smoke over anything in Russia ends up with dead urinians
>>538794367>This is catastrophic for Russia>>538794441>Upcoming civil war and famine are incoming to ziggerspicrel is an article from 3 years ago btwI guess the west's solution to problem mentioned in picrel was to hire a few hundred shills to spam pol and plebbit
>>538794713It's a real issue with the new drones wars : with few hundreds bux worth of flying toys, a PS3 controller and a neet you can nonstop cripple infrastructures worth billions long range and there is nothing you can do about it. And everybody can play this game.tbf i've no idea what Russia can do to prevent this. Just like i've no idea what Ukraine can do to prevent Russia doing the same.Maybe bury all your factories 20m below ground lol?
>>538794367Puccia won't exist by the end of the year. we will pound Moscow into dust and they won't do shit because they are aids ridden poorfaggots
>>538794367>kike golems crashing the global economy again>winningSoon.
>>538794927It will result in the enshittification of the world (eventually). Buy what you need now before they stop making it
>>538794453KWAB. Russia is learning the hard way what FAFO means.
>>538794367>Economic pain is already inevitable
>>538794927most likely solution would be:1. high-quality ISR that monitors air traffic in real time2. autonomous loitering anti-drones3. better and longer range SAMs4. geographically layer EW barriersEveryone's hyping up drones, but realistically, they will shine only for a tiny period in the history of warfare. For every technology there is a counter-technology.
>>538794975i can't believe zelenski fucked it
>>538794927Well defensive munitions have basically always been inferior to offensive ones, so the best way to prevent damage to your infrastructure is to threaten theirs or hit them disproportionately to discourage them from hitting you. Russia has already been hitting Ukrainian energy infrastructure, but what options does Russia have in terms of painful targets they can hit to effectively threaten Ukraine into stopping with the attacks on oil?
>>538794927>tbf i've no idea what Russia can do to prevent this. Just like i've no idea what Ukraine can do to prevent Russia doing the sameAnti drone nets and barrage balloons. You can use electricity to turn water into hydrogen and then float cheap plastic nets 1 mile high using cheap balloons.
>>538794713What Russia doesn't realize is even if Ukraine lost its infrastructures and all of its men are dead, NATO and USA will never stop the war. They are prepared to sacrifice Ukraine.
>>538794999Checked and the only smart post here. The avg west normies have no clue how fucked they are. US is desperate and the normies don't see or even understand.
>>538795091>but what options does Russia have in terms of painful targets they can hit to effectively threaten Ukraine into stopping with the attacks on oil?I'd say relentlessly targeting houses of the profiteers of wars : jewish oligarchs, corrupt generals & warmongering politicians.But somehow they never get targeted...
>>538794663Master Xi said no nooks. Better luck next time
>>538794927The real issue is that Ukraine refuses to admit that they lost the war
>>538794367War exhaustion stat doesn't exist for eastern Europeans. If you believe Nato, this should cause a recession, which won't matter because Russians don't care. Ukraine literally isn't capable of doing significant damage to russian manpower or resources. Meanwhile, ukraine is occupied and has lost a considerable amount of its total population. I don't know how much of their total economy is destroyed, but it's probably not good with total war and manpower shortages. I also have been hearing about power outages for a long time, but I dont know if Ukrainian industry has backups for that.
>>538795068This is pretty much the single reason why Russia is so shit at everything and why people there constantly suffer. Because they think that makes them stronger, LMAO.At some point their military will crumple, and Russians will cheer as it means life is going to be harder.Then the government and civilian infrastructure collapses, and Russians will cheer even louder. "Hard times create strong men!!!"In the end Russians will live in anarchy, but the people who survive in it will be the baddest mofos on the planet. While the rest of the world is at peace and advancing in science/technology.
>>538795068>>538795454
>>538795200Ukraine is gonna have a drone operators in deep bunkers manning ground and air drones behind a 50km deep kill zone where you can't drive a dirtbike without getting btfo and that kill zone is behind a 500km deep zone where trains, trucks etc gets btfo. Any major breakthrough is impossible because you won't be able to mass enough armor and fuel close to the contact line to get through.The only option is to destroy the logistics. Which russia can't do because ukraines logistics is also in the EU. So unless they want to bomb EU countries and trigger article 5 they can't do shit. Russia lost, they got bogged down in a war of attrition where the enemy can strike at their manufacturing but they can't do the same. And they can't attrition enough enemy soldiers because they're being replaced by drones bit by bit. Unless putin pulls 100k paratroopers out of his ass and drops them behind enemy lines to cause enough chaos to get a breakthrough he is fucked.
>>538794877routine military deception, doesn't really matter from what side, the real problem is /pol/ is too caught up in relentless waves of its minutiae
>>538795550Russia will just outsource to China, too bad so sad, both sides are completely retarded.
>>538794367Lol, seethe harder memeflaggot.
>>538795633>Russia will just outsource to ChinaAnd pay with what? Their oil is getting btfo. China might br supplying Russia but they're not giving shit away. The western sphere is not only supplying ukraine but they're also paying for it.China doesn't give a shit about russia winning, if anything they want them to lose so they can get siberian resources for cheap
>>538794453>noo not the industrial objects>can we please go back to torn off limbs of peasants phase, my elite ass now feels the heat
>>538795091they can target their own infrastructure so ukraine has nothing to attack
>>538795091>what options does Russia have in terms of painful targetsCarpetbombing cities of increasing size. Not a few missiles at some buildings. Leveling entire cities in the course of a few days
>>538794453Do russia not have fighters that can intercept these slow ass drones deep in their territory?
>>538794367There's no going back from this
>>538794927>tbf i've no idea what Russia can do to prevent thisThey could leave Ukraine go home and live normal lives
>>538795921>Carpetbombing citiesYou need air superiority for that
>>538794927They could always stop fucking around and nuke Kiev.
>>538795943Probably running very low on interceptors by now and are rationing them.
>>538795797It's funny that Russia mostly bombs where Russian colonisers are living.Hope they enjoy their liberation LMAO
INB4 pro-Ukraine spam crying about Russian counterstrikesanother memeflag spamming for Ukraine thread
>>538795921With what? Their destroyed bomber fleet?
When can I buy a young Russian girl for cheap? Or have the chinks and arabs already emptied the markets?
>>538796108Every second Russian girl in prime age is a prostitute. We will have the great 90s again where you could buy and fuck a Russian loli for 5 D Mark.
>>538795921With what?
>>538794367Iran has shown how even a shit tier country can grab you by your neck just by hitting where it hurts the most economically, but at the same time not causing too many civilian causalities, which would raise the patriotic spirit. So they gouge in an economic wound and your own citizens turn against you. Such is the world we live in where people value comfort over justice. Not to say that what puccia is doing is justice, but you get the gist
>>538796025>Probably running very low on interceptors by now and are rationing them.Yeah but some of this shit is beyond the urals. They should be able to get some old migs to go up there and shoot them down with the jets gun
>>538796183Nice, Hans. We'll take a road trip there once the country is spent for some shopping.
>>538795817ikrwhen ruskies get dismembered, they all unite. When ruskie petrol station gets btfo'ed it's rebellion against car. Weird times
>>538795943interceptors costs hundreths of thousands, while a drone costs thousands and you can make millions of them
>>538796048Yeah it's mostly Russian or Russian violence.And it makes sense because Putin doesn't really care what Ukrainians do but he can't accept Russians not living under his "Russian Mir" as any Russian living a nice successful life could give the Russians back in Moscow the wrong ideas.
>>538796108>>538796183The vast majority of Russian women have STDs. Have at least some respect for your body.
>>538794984Catholicism and Islam are the big multi-cultural cults. But no, it's all the Jews. Lol!
>>538796394Sure thing Vile Schlomo
>>538794713Just start using nukes because you’re a super power and lesser piece of shit globohomo countries don’t get to fuck around and get away with it
>>538794663we will slash your throat kekw
It happened again?I thought that pic was from the one in Moscow. It looks almost identical
>>538795921they cant, faggot. they are as impotent as you are
>>538794927There's plenty Russia can do about it, they just don't think it's acceptable to do so yet. The refinery damage is all things considered pretty minor, it looks cool on propaganda but you can weld those tanks together just about as quickly as drones can destroy them, if you listen to ukrainian sources Russian oil production capacity has already been destroyed multiple times over which means either they are repairing it as quickly as the damage happens or the damage isn't as big as ukraine may lead you to believe. They could for instance sweep starlink from the sky or just start nuking cities and transit hubs on the polish border. The issue is that they have already bombed everything worth bombing with small munitions and are killing tens of thousands a month in actually militarily effective tactical strikes and this doesn't phase ukraine for some reason. Terror bombing to match terror bombing is usually not the strategy you want to employ as the winner in any conflict. They lack the sort of mid level escalation beyond that until it starts going into the real heavy hitters partially because ukraine simply has nothing worth destroying anymore.
>>538794663If Russia actually uses nukes, they will be sanctioned by both China and India. The only thing keeping Russian economy barely afloat today is trade with China and India.
>>538796347Just put some machine guns and a radar on a propeller plane and fly around shooting down the drones. It's not that fucking hard you can use an old bi-plane design
>>538796606>100 words of cope made to sound intellectualshut the fuck up. you are so obviously damaged its not worth reading beyond 4 words.
>>538796347Yeah but just fucking shoot them with the canon on an old mig 29.
>>538796516You can't slash any throat with lead cones shoved up your skull, you inbred E.U.S.S.R. Communist Faggot
>>538796377That's why you go after lolis, they are most likely not completely wasted.
>>538796821You will die kekaroooo
>>538794367Good, the sooner the nukes come into play the better. I am ready.
>this is catastrophic to RussiaAccording to…?
>>538796817Jets are not slow enough, they already use WWI era planes but somehow they do it not enough.
>>538797043According to fuel shortages in every region and export bans for a product that you use to export to balance your state budget.
>>538794713>Realistically how does Russia escalate?It doesn't. They lost, they are now permanently a Chinese vassal, they just haven't realized it yet. There will be another economic crisis where a small class (of now non-Russian) oligarchs buys the ashes of everything for cheap. Another generational wealth transfer out of the hands of ordinary Russians, or rather, a passing of the baton from their current (dying) ruling class to the next.
>>538794927I just envisioned drones taking the personnel elevators down into the facility. Just nonchalantly hovering, surrounded by workers, waiting for the door to open before flying out and exploding.
>>538794927Suspected droine ownership will become a death sentence worldwide.
>>538794367Some analysts say the problems resulting from this are on the logistical side rather than an indicator of pending doom for the Russian state. Whether that's true or not, I don't know, but I'm not going to celebrate the fuel queues until I'm sure it's a fundamental problem for Russia and not just a passing one exacerbated by poor organization. These strikes look dramatic and chip away at the Putin's credibility, but are they really that significant? How long does it take for Russia to repair the damage? Etc. So I'll wait and see. Information war is a thing on both sides.
>>538795550>So unless they want to bomb EU countries and trigger article 5 they can't do shit.The hubris of Europeans is hilarious. The US can (better) afford to act like that because we're protected by oceans. It's a shame that there are so few alive there now that remembers what continental total war looks like when it's waged in your homeland. If you haven't noticed, all rules have already gone out of the window, so it WILL be total war, and none of you are prepared for or have even realized that fact. Learn to grow food.
>>538796963>he thinks russians are the only ones that are gonna shoot in his directionIt will be a pleasure to slaughter Nigger And Troon Orgy (N.A.T.O.) Animals like yourself.It will be glorious.
>>538797221You need to realize that russia cannot simply repair the refineries. They use western tech exclusively. Nobody in russia manufactures these components AND they are sanctioned for import. They can switch to domestic or chinese but it will take time
>>538797339>he thinks russians are the only onesShall we check your Ancestry, anon?
>>538796606>you can weld those tanks together just about as quickly as drones can destroy themThis has been the case in WW2 as well and it doesn't matter. So what if you can repair the damage in 2 days when the refinery gets droned every 2 days?
>>538796049>counterstrikesDoing "counterstrikes" in the war you started doesn't make any sense.This thread is full of pidors and VPN brownoids crying about Ukrainian counterstrikes.
>>538797407You should check on Mohammed as he's tired of raping your mom.He'd do that to your girlfriend as well but you're an unfuckable lonely Bolshevik eurofaggot
>>538797549>Do you have russian DNA?>Imma start thinking about MohammedYou couldve just said "yes"Why are you so ashamed of it?
>>538796606>pretty minor damagethey have fuel shortages in Moscow now.
2 more weeks then the bear will wake up and the last pair of gloves will come offgoogle degloving for more information
>>538795329With gooks - no nooks.
>>5387943672 more weeks >meanwhile ukraine is still kidnapping people off the streets >>538794453>some literal who
zoom out
>>538794927I think that if this war live long enough, a reliable anti drone technology will pop up. But who will reach it first? AI developers are actively using this war to train drones, I expect autonomous anti drones drone in few years.
>>538795055>>538794367Russia attacked Russia and is finding out Russians are badass.
>>538797221>on the logistical sidethey are not but even if they were - Russia has no way of fixing their logistics either.
>>538796856They are infected at the latest at birth as they pass through their mother's Filth Avenue.Given the HIV and Hep rates most are already infected from the blood in the womb, it's disgusting.
>>538794713it blows up the militiary command buildings and presidential palace and parliament in kiev and blows up every power plant and the railway lines from poland.
>>538795921They've been trying that since they started the war. There is nothing for russia to escalate with.
>>538797834Russians have been yapping about "hitting Ukraine's decision making centers" every single time Ukraine did something, for years. Never actually did anything.
>>538797549>rapingis not rape if she's doing it willingly
>>538797095Russia mostly exports oil, not fuel. >shortages Aren’t necessarily “catastrophic”. As I said, according to whom’st?
>>538797570>le muh russian DNAhow much turkish and jewish and RUSSIAN dna in your shitskin veins, you stupid hohol? The vast majority of nafoids who are not brown or jewish are homosexuals and zoophiles. Fellatinger included.Another homosexual dead - Lindsey. Big fella, he liked. Contrary to my countryman here, I believe that unless cucktin, peskov, gherasimov and the other cucks and impotents are removed, Russia will continue to suck up to the West and remove own competent people deemed as "nationalists" or "extremists"
>>538797525Personally i'm just worried about your wellbeing. This kiked war can't last forever, the price you have to pay humanly is just too high. So much suffering, so much misery, so many broken lives... all this on the altar of greed, hubris and jewry.The fact none of the parties are even trying to establish a dialogue anymore is getting me really worried.
>>538798262>As I said, according to whom’st?According to the severity of the measures taken because of it, namely rationing, outright ban of sale, banning exports, a flourishing black market, and fuel prices higher than germany. You can now ask "according tho whomst" again while ignoring all arguments.
>>538798358>mentions cocksucking and cucking unpromptedjfc
>>538798406>it was revealed to me in my dream Okay bro.
two more weeks
>>538798477>Does exactly as he was toldGood boi.
>>538798376https://old.bitchute.com/video/LFqKuqPteAdG/youths in Lvov the hotbed of bandera do not like getting bussed. That was fun when the orcs in Eastern ukraine were sent to die, but now they'll find out why their kosher nazi movement was tolerated, funded and encouraged for 20 years. Already repressive forces started to arrest them and forced them to apologize in public. I'm quite sure nobody will hear from them ever.
Do these people realize that oil is a very fungible good? Oil Russia can't sell is oil the world can't buy.
>>538798713As this anon >>538798262 said, Russia exports oil and not fuel. Attacks are on fuel refineries, not fuel extraction.
i just looked up the last 7 days of heat anomolies detected in ukraine. almost all of them near the front line are on the occupiied side rather than the ukrainian side??? wtf is going on?
>>538794441Russias serfs have suffered the same and worse and continue to die for their thug on top. Nothing changes in Russia
>>538794367I've been seeing stuff like this for years now and it has changed nothing, how will it change anything this time? Is ukraine winning now or what? The only thing that changes is EU pretending like we're next and using that as an excuse to pocket mo- I mean, increase taxes and surveillance.
>>538796662You Sounds TOO RETARDED for Slovak!Wait....Are You Ukrainian hiding in Slovakia?Yup... That make sense!
>>538794477typical russian>I hope putin's annoying hobby war ends soon this is getting annoying.
>>538794367The fuck vatniggers gon' do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP625y-p4bA
>>538797363Yes yes...You must be right...Russians are not able build Atomic reactor or something ...So you saying are we safe?Few... I was scared that Russians can build Rocket or something ....
>>538794453LOL> CYKA BLJED! STAAAHP!!!
>>538794367I hope some burning buildings are worth detonated Hohols in response.
>>538795454Oh the childish fantasies of redditors, how amusing.
>>538796516Why are you hiding in Austria? They need you on the frontlines, little pussy ass bitch.
>>538798809Russians bombing Russians like usual.
>>538796048>Russia mostly bombs where Russian colonisers are livingthis is incredible low IQ statement
>>538799048Read up on WW2, memeflag zigger. What matters in bombardment is repetition. Germans could fix the factories the Allies have bombed within a week, and it didn't mean shit because the same factory would get bombed a week later.
>>538794367>Sir William BrowderHah!
>>538794984Just for everybody's informtation, that girl knows what Kate McKinnon's pussy tastes like
>>538799090>its afraidkekarooooooooooo
>>538794367oh no, 10 refineries were hit from 99999999999 what a horror
>>538794453>ENGAGE IN THE PEACE PROCESS, GIVE US EVERYTHING EAST OF WARSAW WHILE WE FUCKING BOMB YOU>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT
>>538799323what an achievement
>>538799541A win's a win
>>538796257Before enacting total refinery death the Ukrainians spent a long time hammering Russian air defence infrastructure, they've probably got some big holes in their radar coverage and a lot of these drones are slipping through without being detected.
>>538794367I don't get why Putin doesn't just nuke kiev
>>538799786Nah. The drones came from Kazakhstan or secret smuggled in Russia and launched by belligerent groups.
>>538799836The Chinese don't allow him
>>538794367Maybe it's time for peace.
>>538799174We build factories underground like Iranians do mostly with subhuman labour like you poolackenlümmel.Our peak output was at the end of 1944.So yeah bombing stuff is meaningless
>>538799995Guess which buildings in Russia are not underground right now
>>538799995>So yeah bombing stuff is meaningless
>>538794713Eventually when they are collapsing the only option is a Gotterdammerung to drag every other Great Power down to their level.InB4 full nuclear exchange.Something more subtle that won't have an obvious physical cause so won't make Moscow a target to retaliate.> I'm hoping it's wetwork every (((Rothschild))) to collapse the (((banking system))) or something similar.
>>538794367Ukrainians and their fans think Ukraine is suffering from nothing, Russians and their fans think they are suffering from nothing, what an amazing war. This war turned into a football-type cheering competition.
>>538794927>bury all your factories 20m below groundprolly just that. Works splendid for iran
>>538800309The elites and oligarchs in Russia have no interest in actually collapsing the global order. None of them are nationalists or all that ideological. This is all Putin's retardation and the retardation of a few people of his inner circle. If push comes to shove I think most would rather just kill Putin than have everything collapse.
>>538794367It's weird the constant spamming of this propaganda, like do you think any of this has any effect? Who cares lmao
>>538800585I always figured that even if Putin did go off the deep end and order a nuclear strike the people underneath him would stop it from happening.
>>538800585I bet some of them are assisting belligerent groups that are launching drones from within Russia.
>>538795799And Ukraine pays? don't be stupid. Maybe this war is a good thing, it will thin out the retards.
>>538799911They also don't allow him to lose or the west to win in Ukraine.
>>538799334>it's autisticretardoooooooooo
>>538794367That's some indescribably desperate attempt at distraction from the fact the chief emissary of the Khazarian jewish state has just been Iskander'd.
>>538800717That is unlikely because the surveillance links are too strong. The more likely explanation is that one or two supply chains are run by transnational organized crime (you know, lower case 'I' israelis) and they use their own social networks as cover for incredibly lucrative payoffs every time a drone makes the news. Naturally this would be settled abroad and appear completely opaque to responding authorities.Unfortunately for Ukraine, minor inconveniences don't win wars and the Russians can patch up their domestic systems for far longer than Ukraine can withstand kalibr or khinzal strikes. In fact, as quality of life is threatened the group consensus will shift towards autarkic insularity reinforcing federal power. The dreams about coups and civil wars are just propaganda porn for idiots. Russia is so far from structural collapse that its pointless to even analyze the likelihood of such. It is likely that there is consensus splintering in particular demographics who feel unrecognized or underappreciated for their loyalty. This is a common phenomenon in conflicted societies and can be easily placated with state awarded honorifics/recognition. Everyone always feels that they are the vital, hidden, cog in a large machine and a small reward is good management practise. Mild frustration with work challenges is a million miles away from taking up arms and storming the Kremlin.>This entire war is a tragedy.
>>538794367I guess the hypersonic missiles never existed...
>>538794663yes please because nukes on the table means the two zigger hives mosquew and st pidorsburg get glassed into oblivion, uninhabitable for millennia and everying russian made illegalthey will hunt down russian literature and art to destroy itthat would be so awesome of a future, without russia
>>538799048Well in the history of nuclear power, only three reactors have ever exploded. One of them was hit by a tsunami and the other two were built by Russians.
>>538796666>>538796817bullets go on a ballistic trajectory. Shooting them over a city isn't a great idea
>>538794453kek
>>538794367Hope Stinky was worth all of it.
>>538794663>>538796662If Russia is forced to launch nukes, it will likely be a first strike scenario where their continued existence as a state is threatened by conventional warfare.They are going to exterminate EVERYONE they perceive as enemies all at once. They have no choice. Once the card is played, they have no choice but to immediately go all the way.Hope all the non-kikes and non-jeets are ready with enough food and access to clean water to last a few years after western supply chains collapse with the destruction of the ports and cities.
Ukraine launching drones in broad daylight now. Current situation.....Is this allowed in mighty russia?
>and there's nothing he can doWell, he just got an US Senator snuffed.Shit just got real.
>>538806480Sure buddy
>>538806647It's honestly kino.
>>538806723We're about to see the likes of Kaja Kallas acting less cocky from here on
>>538798906Actual Russians>Man I hope those around Putin stop misleading him and tell him of the hardships that us normal Russians are going through for this war.
>>538796257>They should be able to get some old migs to go up there and shoot them down with the jets gunlol
>>538806626Based upon the direction of travel it can be assumed that they are hitting the outer ring of moscow air defense which is est to be 15% of Russia's AA/AAA/Radar systems ie the entire region of moscow's AD
>>538796257The Omsk refinery bombing a few days ago was past the Urals. Russia put up an A50 AWACS and it's best SU-57. Out of 7 drones they managed to intercept 1.Omsk is now offline. Russia is defenceless.
Any reason why the default cope is Mercs = Nato troops?
>>538806938>Russia's air defence.....
>>538798376>>538794984>>538801989>DA JOOOOOOOOOOSkys retard schizo nazi fuck. Did you know that Putin's personal Rabbi, Berel Lazar, has offered to act as mediator in peace talks many times but Putin always tells him no?
I seriously cannot believe they make up this cope and some how delude themselves so hard they think this makes them stronger. >>538807033The one i am refering too is Zeus and Pantysteer's. They have a ton of them but knocking out 1 a day puts ukraine ahead of the game.
>>538795234What is the US desperate for? I really don’t know it seems like the us is having fun watching everyone tear themselves apart
>>538806938>Russia's air defence
>>538806938But yes. I agree. They are attriting Moscow aa capabilities.
>>538807117That's some brutal friendly fire.
>>538794927I’m still waiting for drone strikes on US infrastructure. Let’s see what Russia and Iran are really made of.
>>538807183That man dodged it like a pro boxer. Clearly his talents are wasted.
>>538807196You think that's a good idea?
>>538807183Turns out heat seeking manpads arent too clever in burning refinery situations.
>>538807285In any refinery. There's heat sources all over the damn place in an operating refinery.
>>538807196Iran likely could if they where more unified in action. But every time they come out of the caves they get hit. So clearly some politicians are holding them back. Hell why won't they invade Iraq/Saudi Arabia/Kuwait? fuck the casualties it would give them a massive stand off advantage for US forces. Russia on the other hand idk man they got mines/missiles and submarines at this point but if they can't even open up another front to end this war they won't have a chance against NATO.
>>538795358>The real issue is that Ukraine refuses to admit that they lost the warThe general way to win a war absent surrender is to occupy the seat of power.
>>538806480I'd be more worried about them nuking a satellite than a city.
>>538807523Sat's are tiny you can hit them with a Hi-Alt Flechet swarm.
>>538794713Nuke Kiev.Tell them London is next if NATO keeps fucking around.
>>538807693Why is your father a retarded spastic?
>>538795799you realize everything youve given to them has been on loan right?
>>538807117Not just a Russian problem, all AA not designed in the last couple years is antiquated.Everyone pretended only hypersonics was what would AA, actually flying really low does it much cheaper.
Russia isn't going to do shit except keep losing hard and then have a civil war. Stop pretending they have any realistic other outcomes.
>>538807990Smaller cross section. Heli's and High Alt bombers was the OG solution but even then the chance of success was small with shit like the S300 or even older manpads/Zeus for the counters. You either Saturated the target rich environment or you fly so low you get hit by a ground target.Radar cross section is the major key difference you got such a smaller target that can 5x saturate a target that it doesn't even matter.
>>538807990Aye. Ukraine has a microphone net setup which tracks low flying drones nationally allowing response teams to intercept but the jet drones now are faster. The leading curve and tech advances are keeping up though. They already have dedicated jet drones interceptors.
>>538794713Just put fishing wire all over the refineries
>>538808190Yes those aren't still enough. 10-15% still gets through and are enough to rek havoc. Anyone believing 100% interception rate is a moron who doesn't understand information campaign.
https://www.rferl.org/a/no-gas-no-lights-no-comms-no-tourists-ukraine-s-crimea-blockade-starts-to-bite/33801579.html>The Russian occupation authorities promised this week that the supply problems would be solved within two weeks and that gasoline prices would fall. But they did not explain how this would come about.You unironically can't make this shit up
>>538808804>within two week
>>538808645Most drones do not make it through. Ballistics are what do the damage. There were multiple daily drone air raids when I was in Kyiv a few weeks ago. None of them got through.
>>538794367>35m>3hwhat an unprofessional nigger site–
>>538807459>The general way to win a war absent surrender is to occupy the seat of powerWorked in the war of 1812.
>>538794367>Bce для нapoдaputin considers himself as valuable as roughly one quarter of moscows total pop–
>>538809203>said 10-15%Are you even listening? Yes majority don't go through but those who do still do massive damage. This owa drones are attritional weapons. There's lot of claim by both sides that "we took down 999 drones" but the reality is they still complete their mission through saturation. It will only get more difficult as the numbers and advancements scale up.
>snail = 0.048km/h>starting point Donetsk>1600 days * 24 hours * 0.048km = 1843kmthe snail is past Berlin
>>538794877>muh putin is losingbraindead retards still think this war is about anything but slaugthering the last white remnants of slavs to replace them with browns, cant believe anyone on here is unironically engaged with this gay war.
>>538795618>the real problem is /pol/ is too caught up in relentless waves of its minutiaethose are the shills dummy. no one except a shill cares about the minutia of this war. and most of those shills are ziggers, or so it appears to me. like whenever you see a faggot pontificating over some obscure details of slavic history.
>>538809699Only people suffering drones is Russia. They lost 92 ships to them in the last week. Plus three major refineries. Ukraine takes down russian drones.
>>538809962I don't get the little niggers in suits in that image.
>>538809699don't bother trying to reason. If four years of watching drones blow the the shit out of everything they can reach hasn't taught them then nothing will.
>>538794927>sign up now as a drone pilot, work from the comfort of your living-room–
>>538809894There has literally never been a white slav, slomo. That's a contradiction. Closest would probably be teutons
>>538810045Newfag
>>538809962Sorry I dont speak shitskin.Can somebody interpret?
Now that Ukraine is winning will they stop begging for money and go back to their country ?
>>538809874This retard posting snails while going backwards from Crimea.
>>538810045>sea closed due to AIDS
>>538794975the only thing being pounded is ur mom–
>>538810114>>538810168yes
>>538810128>CrimeaCrimea is under Ukrainian siege. Do try to keep up.
>>538809894>slavs>whitenigga they ain't even christian
>>538810232Cool story bro maybe they will scratch the Kerch bridge again.
>>538795068'The Russians throughout their history have always shown a particularly stubborn and tough manner of defense, while never being particularly gifted at offense. Their national character has a defensive nature. They are stolid and animalistic. They are accustomed to a hard and impoverished existence, and therefore do not hold on to life all that strongly. The average person has less worth than a bicycle.'The So-Called Russian Soulby Joseph Goebbels, 19 July 1942“Die sogenannte russische Seele”, Das eherne Herz (Munich: Zentralverlag der NSDAP, 1943), pp. 398-405.https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb11.htm-'Vorausgeschickt sei, daß die Russen sich in ihrer ganzen Geschichte immer durch eine besonders zähe und hartnäckige Art der Verteidigung ausgezeichnet haben, während sie im Angriff niemals viel taugten. Ihr ganzer Volkscharakter kommt einer defensiven Kriegführung sehr entgegen. Sie sind stumpf und von einer wilden Animalität. Gewöhnt an ein hartes und entbehrungsreiches Leben hängen sie gerade auch deshalb nicht allzu stark daran. Der Einzelmensch gilt im öffentlichen Denken kaum soviel wie etwa ein Fahrrad.'“Die sogenannte russische Seele,” Joseph Goebbels, 19. Juli 1942aus Das eherne Herz (München: Zentralverlag der NSDAP, 1943), pp. 398-405.https://archive.org/details/DasEherneHerz/
>>538806882Beyond delusional
>>538810202Well. At least you admit it. >https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/pools-closed
>>538810286They are leaving the bridge for a reason kiddo. Is this your first war?
>>538795068>govern me harder daddy–russians apparently love that shit–“At the end of the 19th century the idea of love appeared in a third form which was presented to us by Bolshevism: in the Russian doctrine of suffering and sympathy, symbolised in the Dostoyevskian man. In his Diary, Dostoyevski speaks quite openly of an absolute, deeply rooted longing, among Russians, for suffering, for continual suffering; suffering in everything, even in enjoyment. On the basis of this, his characters act and live. Therefore in sympathy also lies the strongpoint of Russian morality. The people know that a criminal acts sinfully, but: There are unexpressed ideas - the description of a criminal as an unfortunate must be included in these ideas which are inherent in the Russian people. This idea is a purely Russian one.”Rosenberg, Alfred; The Myth of the 20th Century, 1930 -german original:„Zum Ende des 19. Jahrhunderts trat die Liebesidee nun in einer dritten Form auf, die uns den Bolschewismus bescherte: in der russischen Leidens- und Mitleidenslehre, symbolisiert im „Dostojewskischen Menschen”. Dostojewski spricht in seinem „Tagebuch” ganz offen aus, daß ein „absolut wurzelhaftes Verlangen” des russischen Menschen in der Sehnsucht nach dem Leiden bestehe, nach fortwährendem Leiden; Leiden in allem, selbst in der Freude. Auf Grund dieser Idee handeln und leben seine Gestalten; im Mitleiden liegt deshalb auch der Schwerpunkt der russischen Sittlichkeit. Das Volk weiß zwar, daß ein Verbrecher sündhaft handelt, aber: „Es gibt unausgesprochene Ideen. Zu diesen im russischen Volk verborgenen Ideen zählt die Bezeichnung der Verbrecher als Unglückliche. Diese Idee ist eine rein russische.“Rosenberg, Alfred; Mythus des XX. Jahrhunderts, 1930
>>538810423LMAO
>>538794453>Muh trad, based RossiyaKEK
>>538794713I honestly don't understand how this isn't a carte blanche for Russia to bomb everything they want, this war is fucking gay.
>>538794877frontline moving miniscule amounts back & forth over years, war already lasting longer than ww2, its a slow burn on purpose, no one has an interest in it ending prematurely–
>>538795921Retard
>>538797671Dmitry Peskov has been an international figure for at least a decade, you lying zigger fuck.
>>538810442>The people know that a criminal acts sinfully, but: There are unexpressed ideas - the description of a criminal as an unfortunate must be included in these ideas which are inherent in the Russian people. This idea is a purely Russian one.Rosenberg apparently didn't talk with Himmler enough, because he could have told him that that idea is a classical asian / street-shitter idea, characteristic of shiva-worship among other things.
>>538810471Drones fly over the kerch bridge daily now faggot. Ukraine can put it out of action whenever they choose.
>>538794713Load sub-nuclear munitions into their ICBM fleet and try to saturate Ukraine. There's nothing left to do, Ukraine is essentially ethereal because their manufacturing is overseas, their industry is halted and subsidized by NATO. There's no damage which Ukraine would sustain that would cause their allies to leave the war.
>>538810293Yet russians defeated all european empires, destroyed armies and captured capitalsFor example berlin was captured 3 timesGermans never were able to reach far enough from their core land or win a war (bismarck is an exception from this rule, but it happens once per 1000 years )To be fair the only empire that ever defeated russia was mongolian
>>538794663Why not stay in glorious Rossiya, Ivan? KEK
nukes or no balls
>>538810471These were launched a couple of hours ago. In broad daylight. Do try to keep up. This has been the norm for months now.
>>538810568>>538810568
>>538810268white slavs were sent to teh gulgas under stalin & largely replaced by mongol mutts– there are 2 types of russians, the white niggers gopniks & the remnants of og germanic/nordic blood that survived the purges–the bolshewik jews engaged in reverse eugenics, selecting for the lowest genes & promoting them while killing off the white slave monarchy–“Destiny itself seems to wish to point the way for us here. In delivering Russia over to Bolshevism, it robbed the Russian people of that intelligentsia that had once created and secured the Russian state. The organization of the Russian state-structure was not a result of Russian Slavic political ability, but rather was a marvelous example of the state-building capacity of the Germanic element amidst an inferior race. Many powerful empires were created on the Earth in this way. More than once, lesser peoples with Germanic organizers and leaders became formidable states, and endured as long as the racial nucleus of the state-creating race survived. For centuries, Russia owed its sustenance to the Germanic nucleus of its ruling upper class. Today this class has been almost completely rooted out and extinguished. The Jew has taken its place. As impossible as it is for the Russian himself to shake off the Jewish yoke, so too is it impossible for the Jew to keep this mighty empire forever. He himself is no organizing element, but rather a ferment of decomposition.’ This colossal Eastern Empire is ripe for dissolution. And the end of Jewish rule in Russia will also be the end of Russia as a state. We are chosen by Fate to be witnesses of a catastrophe that will afford the strongest confirmation of the folkish race-theory.”Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26, Dalton Translation
>>538811003german original:„Das Schicksal selbst scheint uns hier einen Fingerzeig geben zu wollen. Indem es Rußland dem Bolschewismus überantwortete, raubte es dem russischen Volke jene Intelligenz, die bisher dessen staatlichen Bestand herbeiführte und garantierte. Denn die Organisation eines russischen Staatsgebildes war nicht das Ergebnis der staatspolitischen Fähigkeiten des Slawentums in Rußland, sondern vielmehr nur ein wundervolles Beispiel für die staatenbildende Wirksamkeit des germanischen Elementes in einer minderwertigen Rasse. So sind zahlreiche mächtige Reiche der Erde geschaffen worden. Niedere Völker mit germanischen Organisatoren und Herren als Leiter derselben sind öfter als einmal zu gewaltigen Staatengebilden angeschwollen und blieben bestehen, solange der rassische Kern der bildenden Staatsrasse sich erhielt. Seit Jahrhunderten zehrte Rußland von diesem germanischen Kern seiner oberen leitenden Schichten. Er kann heute als fast restlos ausgerottet und ausgelöscht angesehen werden. An seine Stelle ist der Jude getreten. So unmöglich es dem Russen an sich ist, aus eigener Kraft das Joch der Juden abzuschütteln, so unmöglich ist es dem Juden, das mächtige Reich auf die Dauer zu erhalten. Er selbst ist kein Element der Organisation, sondern ein Ferment der Dekomposition. Das Riesenreich im Osten ist reif zum Zusammenbruch. Und das Ende der Judenherrschaft in Rußland wird auch das Ende Rußlands als Staat sein. Wir sind vom Schicksal ausersehen, Zeugen einer Katastrophe zu werden, die die gewaltigste Bestätigung für die Richtigkeit der völkischen Rassentheorie sein wird.“Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, 1925/26
>>538810622The war ended in a stalemate three years ago it has just been seething from both sides ever since.
>>538807693The other way will probably be more effective
>>538794367>>538794441Holy copium kekUkraine is losing and all they can do is spam some refinery getting hit all over social media like some big win lmfao
>>538811003>white slavs were sent to teh gulgas under stalin & largely replaced by mongol mutts– there are 2 types of russians, the white niggers gopniks & the remnants of og germanic/nordic blood that survived the purges–the bolshewik jews engaged in reverse eugenics, selecting for the lowest genes & promoting them while killing off the white slave monarchy–yeah, that's plausible and it happened, but does not explain the absolute retarded way Polish people are behaving (and they are arguably Christian i.e. not pagans/freemasons/atheists calling themselves "Orthodox" for PR reason)
>>538810666>russia strong
>>538811141How about 92 russian ships in a week? If you are bored of refineries constantly blowing up there's plenty other fun stuff happening...
>>538811083Niemanden juckt was ein gescheiterter Staatsmann mal geschrieben hat
There was a lot of smoke on that bridge in the first year of the war too.
>>538811141Look at them go....
>>538811191poles are jewish rape-babies, thats their secret–
>>538811141Wheeeee! Such winning....
>>538794367Пидopaхи кaк oбcтoит cитyaция c бeнзинoм? Пыня yжe пopyчил paзoбpaтьcя?
>>538811141Such superpower.....
>>538811218i told you real factsthe only thing you was able to generate in response is concentrated butthurt lol
>>538795921We do not claim this faggot retard; he's a third-world migrant.
>>538811268>jews writing in german to make their bs propaganda appear more credible–
>>538811321>((polish)) diaspora
>>538811141But sure. For old times sake. Here's another refinery Russia lost yesterday.....
>Shows one ship on fire KEKAROO
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>>538811141they have to promote hemselves to get gibs. alas, it doesn't work as more countries are not interested in helping ukraine anymore
>>538811370we saved europe from bolshevism kiddo– learn some real history, stalin planned to steamroll all of europe & the americans helped him, despite all that pressure, the whole industrialized world ganging up on germany we still prevailed, the yids are seething to this day–>Deutschland über alles.
>>538811531Oh shit. Forgot it.
>>538811698>cope picture lolgermans lost in 1945, so is Europedevastations was so huge that europe lost its place forever, it was a center of commercial and military innovations for 500 years after ww2 centers moved elsewhere, today you play secondary roles in everything
>>538811540>Shows one ship on fireSure lad.
>>538794367How many more fortnights?
>>538811370>>538810666>muh russia is winning all the warsyeah but at what cost–
>>538811578>countries are not interested in helping ukraine anymoreSure lad, that's why NATO just promised another $80bn of weapons before 2027. And Poland just agreed to send the mig 29s.
>>538794713>but what haven't they already hit in Ukraine so far?Honestly after the US and Israel whacked the Ayatollah the precedent is there and Russia should go after the presidential palace and all other government centres.Putin is just a boomer cuck
>>538811895Nigger that ships not even damaged maybe show the ones actually sinking.
>>538811141a new refinery every dayukraine has done more damage to russia in the last 2 months than russia has done to ukraine in the entire war
>>538811956russia is a winner, you are loser, thats how it is lolthe only thing you can find for responce is giberish and some picturesbtw during ww1 russians military loses were the lowest from all empires, the last recorded figures before revotion was 950k KIAduring ww russians military loses were smaller than axis also
>>538811866it was inevitable, the alternative would have been way worse– hitler did the necessary & averted the very worst outcome, jews only in recent times coming back with their weimar degeneracy, they got more careful with their jewing after hitler called them out–
>>538812249its clear now that you are shill because you can respond only with pre-made script lol, too boring
>>538812143okay ivan, cant expect to badmouth your own country i guess–
>>538812143
>>538812314cant refute what i said only nitpick the outer form, im eternally right– even russians start to see their folly–
>>538794367The refinery blowing up video is in reverse.
>>538810666>To be fair the only empire that ever defeated russia was mongolianWas it the Mongolians that told you to reddit space, danetroon?
>>538812542if your IQ was >1 you would know that jewgle AI generates responces based on links to zogged/soros sponsored sourcesthats why you always loseyou need to try harder because quite soon they will replace you with bots lolin reality russian military loses were the lowest from all and reached only 950k in 1917, even zogged wikipedia claims 1,4mln but that already includes revolutionary wars
>>538795091They could start bombing the girl's schools..
>>538796606>Terror bombing to match terror bombing is usually not the strategy you want to employ as the winner in any conflict.This was Hitler’s mistake during the Battle of Britain. He wasted too many bombs on civilian targets instead of targeting the air bases, ports, factories, power stations, and bridges. It just pissed off the Brits and made them more unified.
>Russians ITTlmao