why are men such coward pussies? be a man. stop complaining. talk to that girl. confess your love. get married. have kids.
>>538811219If I fail, I will be humiliated on social media or her personal stories. There is a panopticon in every pocket.
>>538811219>the girl falls out of love because you can't provideit's sexist as shit to assume she can't take care of herself, SHITLORD
>>538811219Love doesn't exist. It's just a combination of sexual lust and convenience.
>>538811219Moly is a 60-year-old who's been out of the dating game for decades. Confessing your love to a woman nowadays is the fastest way to get friendzoned with extreme prejudice. It's OK to love a woman, but you're better off demonstrating it through action rather than some grand romantic proclamation.
>>538811219Women are not legal property yet.
6 Feet6 Figures6 InchesOr no pussy for youUs ladies are done settling for second bestEvery woman deserves ChadWe will have ChadWE MUST HAVE CHAD!
>>538811472This is one of the oddest things to me about Gen Z, and I’m assuming all subsequent generations. You seem to have given up fully on the idea of romantic love.
>>538811633WOMEN have. I think Romance is great but foids will think you're gay and go fuck a nigger instead.
>>538811472>Confessing your love to a woman nowadays is the fastest way to get friendzoned with extreme prejudice.this, it's better unsaid>>538811633no, it's just seen as a red flag to say "I love you" too fast. it is what it is man.
>>538811219He is a simp.>>538811633Of cause, it is lowkey accepted women are whores now so love is dead.
>>538811219Oh lookIt's this thread again
>>538811219Why aren't women confessing? Cowardice?
>>538811617Damn I got 2/3 but I'm only 5'10, guess I'll just spend my money on vacations and parties with my friends and hot drunk sluts instead.
>>538811219I met this girl that was in a relationship for 12 years. 12 fucking years. No kids. No marriage. Just roommates at this point. I fucked her and she finally broke up with him, kicked him out of her house and everything. You would think a newly liberated woman would want to party around but, no, she actually dumped me, banged my much taller friend and had a kid right away. I guess she was scared of losing her eggs. Anyway they're pretty happy. Don't know what happened to the ex. I think he killed himself.
>>538811729Is this it? Have they somehow convinced women that having a husband is gay?
>>538811219>confess your love.Just like my Japanese animus. Should I hand her a letter and bow while I do it?
>>538811219So Molyneux saw Obsession. big whoop
>>538811880suicide is fag behavior having children is fag behavior looks like you beat the other two, good on ya anon
>>538811633Thing is, I am something of a romantic. But I've learned through experience that confessing your love to a modern woman usually doesn't end well. If the woman is obsessed with you, then sure, you can confess you love to her and there probably won't be any damage done. But in the early stages of a relationship, when a woman is still on the fence about whether or not to commit to you, spilling your feelings to her will almost certainly give her the ick. Women like chasing a man's love and validation. If you give it away to her too easily, she loses interest.
>>538811633Love gives women the ick. They see it as a sign of weakness.
>>538811219Protip: money, not balls-out bravado. That gets you nothing.
Out of all the women I have they always said they loved me first except one who still said it but she ultimately got the ick that I said it first
>>538811633Men are in love, women are in business. When you get burned through applying good faith to every business interaction of theirs you ultimately stop trying.
>>538811633Nah I think what's commonly known as "romantic love" is just the honeymoon phase. Those feelings fade eventually.What keeps couples together long term is morals, consciously putting in effort and usually some shared mission like raising children.But a lot of women these days have feminist victim mentality and are selfish so it won't work with them.
Telling a woman you love her makes you look like a retard to her, since she knows how terrible what you're claiming to love is.
>>538811633>You seem to have given up fully on the idea of romantic love.Yeah, because it dosn't exist. I wish it did. I wish I could have that bit of romance in my life. But, gen z women are are playing the numbers game and anything less than perfection is not good enough. How can there be love when one side don't see the other as alive, let alone human?
>>538812295imagine some naive teen-twenties young man writing "veni veni venias"* for some f-oid and actually sharing it with her. police would be there in 3 minutes tops>*so beautiful her face, how sharp her eyes, braided hair, what a specimen!>redder than the reddest rose, whiter than the whitest lily, the most beautiful in the entire world, may she be gloried forever!
>>538814791I'm reading Bram Stoker's Dracula. It's fiction but I assume it paints an accurate picture of the cultural norms of the late 19th century.I noticed in the letters between the main character and his fiance. And his fiance and her friend.They're so humble and polite and concerned with "proper conduct" for women.Women today are degenerate trash compared to them.
>>538811219lol take care of that roastie chud!
>>538811633It never occurred to me in the first place
>>538811219This nigga living in a shakespeare play
>>538811633Yeah, pretty much. Once you learn about how women actually are, how things and people actually are....
>>538811633Try to love a zoomer/millennial woman, old champ. She's feminist, even if she openly says otherwise.You can't love someone who sees a relationship as fundamentally transactional.Truly the jew of genders
>>538811219>Completely delusional boomer still thinks the majority of young men are even in a romantic sort of situation. Doesn't even know most of them can't even get a date.We need to accelerate the boomer death toll.
>>538811633I can't blame them. These younger generations of girls have no sense of romance and are repulsed by it. They want to be degraded, pissed on, shit on, spit down their throats and called sluts. Not the type of creature you want to have kids with. And no special times are possible with such. It's whole generations of completely ruined women. They clearly don't have souls. Never ever attempt romance with any of them. Just offer to pay for sex and make it vile as possible, it don't bother. That's what turns them on. These girls are not only incapable of love, they will spurn you for being so naive. They know they are far too damaged inside to love, and they look down on you for not being able to assess that.
>>538811729This is true. Romance truly is dead. They desire to be degraded in the vilest possible ways. That's what Jews have been programming into them for quite some time. They truly don't have souls. Only creatures with souls can love.
>>538811472Lol. It's better you don't demonstrate it at all, much less yeild to feeling it. They completely lack the capacity to love. It's been choke-fucked out of them. They do maintain infinite capacity for cruelty and sadism. But not love. Dont anyone be so foolish. That ship has sailed. We live in jew hell of endless butt fucking orgies. It's a very bleak age.
>>538811219Love does not exist. Kikes made it up to sell movies to chicks
>>538811738It's true. Love is dead in an age of nasty whores. They boast about how skanky they are. It's absolute madness.
>>538811219>confess your love
>>538811219bald faggot
>>538811219if you're homeless just buy a home
It's all a grift for boomer bucks if you ask me. Boomers and gen x don't want to feel bad about letting society decay into shit for the younger generations so to elevate that guilt they pay grifters to tell them that the hardships the younger generations are having is all of their OWN doing and not because of the lack of responsibility of the Boomers.
>>538818816They're all watching too much porn as tweens and falsely learning that's what sex is. Porn's bad enough for men, even worse for women.
>>538811219Dude, I am 33 soon, it's over. You really think I want to settle for some 30yo? For what? I have otherwise built a nice life for myself, so I am not crying. But at this point I dont feel like compromising anymore, dont have much use for a woman either since I can do everything myself. They also abolished the benefit for marriage financially.It is both zoomers and boomers who have a problem with that. Zoomers because they realize its them in 5 years and boomers because they want some retard to marry their whore daughter
>>538811219I already did all that. One abortion and a bunch of emotional trauma later and I'm done.
>>538811219This couldn't be worse advice. Once a women is attracted to you, they do all the work in initiating and taking things to the next level. All you have to do is not be a sperg, be desperate or a simp and fuck things up that point. Confessing your love is a sure fire way to give her the ick and make her leave your ass hanging. All the women I have been with escalated everything and did all the work once I had her roped in with looks/personality/humor, all I did was just be cool and not show I cared too much about her presence.
>>538819563>I am 33 soon, it's over.It's really not unless your balding or gotten fat.
>>538811219Fuck you pay me, ypu want families give me money to support on or fuck off
>>538811219>wait too long to confess loveWhat the fuck is this guy even on about is he like literally in high school still? Like what the fuck bro….
>>538819724Neither
>>538819817Then you're fine looks wise, as long as you have avenues to meet women.
>>538811633Bro, take a moment. Look at all the examples of “romantic love” in media/film/art/music. Think of the greats, what is a common trait they all share? They are all produced, written, created, and thought up by men. Men believe in romance, men defined romance. Whores never did, they write romance novels and its porn. Romance is a lie and its something men perpetuate. Whores cant love, half of all mothers cant love.
>>538811633Romance didn't exist for the vast majority of human history either. Romance is the anomaly, not gen Z.
>>538811219Never like a woman more than she likes you, never tell her you love her until after she says she loves you, they get the ick.
>>538811219Why the Masonic lobbies obsessed with sex?!
>>538819964This is a great point. r/DarkRomance shows how women really feel about "love" and "romance" away from the prying eyes of men. They fantasize about the most grotesque smut imaginable, borderline illegal. I like to pop in there every now and then to remind myself of the true nature of women.
>>538811750>It's Jannie Approved
>>538811219But an ad, 1 Dollar Man.
>>538820322I mean what can you even get for a dollar these days
>>538811219The OP is absolutely correct. The absolutely worst thing you can do is just beat around the bush and try to "win over" a girl without ever actually making a real move or doing anything that risks getting rejection.Increasing familiarity without things getting sexual will completely kill whatever initial attraction she may have had for you. You are effectively telling her that you are totally fine giving her your time and attention and everything else in a sexless, platonic, totally friends only relationship.Trying to avoid potential rejection is the worst thing you can do as a man. Rejection is no big deal, it's a complete nothingburger. The reason rejection is painful to (You) is because you get too invested in a girl before you get to that make or break moment where you get rejected.
>>538819962I am just not feeling it anymore.
>>538811290>If I fail, I will be humiliated on social media or her personal stories.No you won't, unless you do something extremely socially retarded. In which case you deserve to be shamed for being a social retard.You just have social anxiety and avoidant personality disorder and just tell yourself this stuff to try to rationalize your avoidance.
Shaming young men as not good enough for modern women because they don't do what you want at this point is just disgusting behavior.Molymeme is just a garbage philosopher if he is going to buy into the misandry shit just because its the current thing.
>>538820621>You just have social anxiety and avoidant personality disorder and just tell yourself this stuff to try to rationalize your avoidance.I simply dislike women as a whole and dont feel like they are worth the effort. Especially if you actually have something going for yourself it feels humiliating. I have achieved more than any of my predecessors; why should I settle for less?
>>538811633No, they are just completely mindfucked and gender confused and have absolutely no idea how sex and dating and romance and relationships and all of that stuff actually works, because they just got completely indoctrinated with all of the #metoo rape culture toxic masculinity stuff. We live in hypersexualized, post sexual revolution hookup culture world, but at the same time Zoomers have these weird hangups and insecurities and misconceptions about all of it and think they will be arrested and imprisoned for glancing at girl's ankles without a signed and notarized consent form giving them permission to do so.
>>538811754>Why aren't women confessing? Cowardice?Because it isn't the woman's role to make the first move. Men and women are different.
>>538820467An Arizona tea, boy
>>538820545>The OP is absolutely correct. The absolutely worst thing you can do is just beat around the bush and try to "win over" a girl without ever actually making a real move or doing anything that risks getting rejection.This is Boomer-tier adivce, fuck right off. Non-chalant and passive is what girls are into today. "Winning a girl over" is just simping and your faggot Disney advice does not work anymore. The only time you make a move is when she puts her head on your shoulder or some other obvious physical gesture, and then it is on you to go in for the kiss. Other than that, women these days do all the work and give all the signals, if she actually likes you, SHE will let you know.
>>538820621This is a jewish bolshevik who wants an easy excuse to throw you in his slave prisons>>538811219OP is a kike who wants you to get into a fight to the death with the cops. Don’t listen to these jews, kids.
>>538811219What the conversion rate for GBP to Cowardice?
>>538811633Women loving men is a literal fantasy. It's not demonstrated in real life. Women do not, under any circumstance, love men. Not in the sense of men loving women. Women love men's status: their money, their relationships, their power & fame, and yes, their appearance. Put in other words, a woman loves what a man can do for her - that is why all women nowadays basically consider themselves (their body) as the prize a man gets in exchange for that. They do not offer anything else - no nurture, no care, no love. Just a body for sex that will hate you for wanting said sex. Women are capable of love, but it's for their children, exclusively. If the kids are lucky to get that. Women will demonstrate real love for kids, sacrifice, support, nurturing, care, all the good stuff. But for men? FUCK NO, that is why the fastest way to dry a pussy and have her leave is via crying as a man. Crying as a man tells her you are the lowest status of all men - you can't handle life, you can't support others, you need help. And women do not like helping men, that is physical and emotional labor to them, aka slavery. They expect the other way around, that you are THEIR slave. Anyone who grew up under patriarchy is ignorant of the above, or if you labor under anime fantasy (anime is good at showing girls who love boys). Patriarchy contained women and trained them to be good wives. They weren't good wives - just passable ones, but at least they weren't the whores they are now. So old boomers have NO idea how bad hoeflation made women in the modern era. They got handed a trad wife who couldn't divorce them. No fucking clue how bad it is.
i'm in my 40s. met a girl in her 40s and we hit it off initially. i didn't show much interest at first, and she was always wanting to hang out. made it very obvious that she enjoyed spending time with me and was the aggressor sexually. then one day i mentioned exclusivity and us being an actual couple. she dumped me a week later lol.
>>538820947>>538820907WARNING, this is a bolshevik jewish communist, WARNING, he wants you to fall prey to his jewish laws that he wrote last decade
>>538820947I had women make the move on me a bunch of times since I turned 30. They all sucked though and when dismissing it they sperged out. 10 years earlier would have been the time, now it is just a bad taste.
>>538820987>i'm in my 40s. met a girl in her 40sWouldnt be interested in doing that. They are just looking for paypigs at that age. In general I think all women past 30 do. If I wanted that I would go and see a hooker.
>>538812295>But in the early stages of a relationship, when a woman is still on the fence about whether or not to commit to you, spilling your feelings to her will almost certainly give her the ickYes, of course, why wouldn't it?If you are still in the early stages of a relationship, why the fuck would you already be in love and confessing feelings and acting desperate for her to to commit to you? It should be the opposite of that, as a man you should be trying to keep things casual and keep your options open and the woman is supposed to be the one catching feelings and falling and love and trying to get you to commit to her.
ex girl i see from time to time at the store, we haven't seen each other in a year or two, standing in line she tells me "i still think about you", I smiled and said the same to her, we both left and i heard from her mom she got married soon after.
>>538819671Exactly. Girls hit on YOU, that’s how it is. If they aren’t hitting on you, then you’re ick and you need to looksmax FIRST.
>>538820979thanks rollo
>>538819105Chivalrous faggot. The Sun has already arrived.
>>538811633>You seem to have given up fully on the idea of romantic love.All of this bullshit was decided for us, many of us before we were even old enough to understand. Why would any young man want the economy be in such a bad state with no positive out look for the short term or long term. Why would any young man want his opposites, young women, to go around acting like whores starting at age 13? Why can't you old fucks understand this mechanism? You're missing the plot line for the individual characters. Do you turn 40 and just suddenly forget how Boomers treated you guys too?
>>538820987What's the point of dating someone who can't have children. Legitimately. You're a gay dude at that point so you may as well be with someone who isn't going to fuck you up financially or cut off ties if you get sick or poor.>degenerateNo I'm saying what is your end goal? To fuck someone? Because it's not procreation or starting a family if you're dating 40 year old mummy women.
>>538811219Women are pure evil. Take this 61 year old man's advice. Fuck em all you can. But dont get serious or ever trust them.
>>538819563The boomer rage about this is so funny, you even see it in this very thread. They stomp their feet and they lie about the existence of jewish laws which THEY THEMSELVES PASSED. They’re slave golem soldiers for the jew, but they’re too fucking old to put up a fight against any runaway goyim anyMore. So they’ve optedninstead for seething online and demanding bolshevik surveillance laws against us.
>>538811633well.. bout two weeks ago I went to a club here and I hooked up with a girl that approached ME first... idgaf if you think its degenerate, in fact I think youre gay if a girl comes up to you and wants to fuck you and you don't fuck here (both being single)I took her to my house and fucked her brains out..like the sex was so good that after two weeks I actually kinda still think about it.. Well guess what happenned after I came? She got up and said "well I am going home" and she literally just walked out the door and i never seen her again..Like I wouldnt have mind if she stayed over night, if she stayed for breakfast, who knows, I actually wouldnt have mind if we saw each other again... but no. She was programmed and convinced that you can't "catch feelings" for someone.. even after they fucked each others brains out. And like her, this country is full of them. Theres no way you can tell me that girl isn't some kind of spiritually/mentally broken
Looks like the "re-moralization" brigade has shown up right on que and totally organically.
>>538811219Rn, women are getting slapped while giving blowjobs because they scraped with their teeth. And then there’s you going, "muhh save the white children marry women manchildren muhh" fuck you, cuck nigger.
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>>538819563>You really think I want to settle for some 30yo?So don't? No one is forcing you to settle for some dumpy 30yo. Go get with a hot 22yo if that's what you want. If you actually have your shit together as much as you think you do, it shouldn't be any problem getting a younger hottie. And if you can't actually pull a younger hotter girl, then you are in no position to be making demands and acting like a dumpy 30 yo is beneath you.
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>>538811633Millennial nigger, isn't "American Pie" from your generation millenial jew ?
>>538821430You dont get it, I simply dont want it anymore, altogether. It's over, the jig is up.
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>>538820907>think they will be arrested and imprisonedHmm, the Duke boys were. A recent SCOTUS judge was accused, falsely, of SA and rape, in order to stall and frustrate his nomination. Some lads kill themselves after receiving a false accusation of rape. Quite a few cases here. And if a lefty, a few black men have also gotten the false accusation treatment. Social media is full of gym thot shamers just looking for men to shame with their camera setups. Some blind guy got caught in it and it really made a stink. Amber Herd vs. Jonny Depp is clear fucking evidence the world is against men until we beat the world back with receipts and evidence. And even then you lose. A foid charged a man in a wheelchair with kicking her door down. The police ARRESTED THE MAN. No thoughts in the brain of anyone in the police department. Foid said so, so must be true. Men and boys see this treatment. Oh, and by the way police all follow the Dullith Model - they are sexist cunts by policy. Men are right to distrust cops - they are proven sexists. All it takes is one foid to say shit, boom, jail. The risk is real. Hell, even I have had random foids bother me in real life out of no where (at least 3 instances of it). They hate you and want you dead/in jail.
>>538811219NEVER make the mistake of waiting to show your romantic or sexual intention with a woman. No matter what, make it apparent you see her for love, or as a potential fuck. They respect you more from the get go even if they aren’t interested, and you will actually be in the roster should she open up to love/sex with someone. The worst mistake is being a “friend” first.
>>538821273The one good CHAD boomer. Salutations.
>>538821314It is, right now they have been removing tax breaks for marriage here. So there as a result is really 0 incentive left to get married anymore. Women are at the lowest quality possible, no financial advantage to it, boomers are crying around about the country declining. It is a joke. Part of me genuinely is proud of failing them as an act of defiance.
>>538821531Thanks chad, you bodied that bolshevik freak.
>>538821470American Pie was Gen X. It came out in the late 90s
>>538811219Trying to systemically address the mental retardation of every woman on the planet being irrational, incapable of accountability, and legally shielded from the consequences of their actions is retarded. It’s going to drive you as insane as any leftoid trying to stamp out homophobia and racism. You need to find one (1) woman if your desire is to be married and procreate. Not save every person on earth from the chad roastie simp cycle. One woman. That’s it.>but what if I get divorcedThen you chose the wrong one. But you’re not buying scratch off tickets you fucking retard. It’s not a blind slot pull. It’s a vetting process of multiple years. If you don’t know what you’re getting into that’s on you.
>>538811219BUY A FUCKING AD STEF
i stopped being afraid of women once i fully accepted they are all terrible human beings
This is also fucking stupid.When a woman likes you it is fucking obvious and she makes efforts to get you and stay with you and please you and keep you happy regardless of how you feel or what your mood might be.If this sounds like some theoretical concept, you have never been with a woman who ever liked you only one who is tolerating you. That's why you felt like you had to constantly do shit
>>538821611It’s most hilarious to me watching these far leftoid boomers who cry about migrants rights tell me that I should have no rights and should be forced into marriage like an african chattel slave. It really is like a satanic upside down version of the “real” pre-‘45 world. A literal prison.
>>538821851Correct. They don’t want you to know this because it hurts communism and jewry while benefitting you. So they have to twist the narrative around.
>>538821548Aw schweet, if I'm straight forward, and lucky, she might put me in her roster?Do you retards even read what you type? Or are you this indoctrinated to allowing the status quo to go on where everyone is a freelance whore moving from cock to cock. No reproduction. Just vibes and pussy tingles. Also, you must still uphold all the traditional values yourself.This is one of the more insane takes I've read on this. I have no idea what you're doing on 4chan pol talking like that.
>>538820954No, you are a completely retarded virgin who doesn't actually get girls and is LARPing on the internet.Also learn to read you ESL retard. I am saying that you shouldn't try to win over a girl with beta simping OR do the gay timid shit you are suggesting and just sit there and wait on her to give you an obvious signal.>The only time you make a move is when she puts her head on your shoulder or some other obvious physical gesture, and then it is on you to go in for the kiss. What the fuck is this cringe shit? Are you in middle school? You should have already fucked her (or tried to fuck her and got rejected) long before you are being all cuddly and she is putting her head on your shoulder and shit like that. What the fuck is wrong with you retards?
>>538821759this.its in a man's nature to be a white knight simp "hero" that wants to change the world. but dont.some of these women are too far gone.. too far mentally and spiritually fucked.. idk if theyre born that way or if they got brain washed but stop dont be a hero. you will not suceed.
>>538821759In my 20s I would have been dumb enough to do it, now I am not. >>538821857It is boomers of any political coloring doing that. You're right though, even leftist boomers want to somehow see men aiming for a family. Me not doing that somehow enrages them when at the same time a woman does that they say "you go girl". Make it make sense lol
>>538811219If this were a decade ago this post would motivate me.Now however? I do not have the fucking time to try and find a girlfriend/wife.>work full time>have to exercise and diet because otherwise i get fat>bills>chores around the house>never got matches on dating apps>have to keep mental health in check because anxiety>hair is thinning so would need a transplant and go on meds foreverBrother my plate is full, I'm out of the dating scene. Good luck to those of you who are still in the game though and I mean that sincerely because it's a total mess.
>>538811633I'm a millenial and I don't find this odd at all. Yes, there's a fraction of zoomers who just find one other and pair up and stay together, cool. For most of them it's simply pure ancap transactional job interview thing. It doesn't even come to a play that men and women on 1-10 scale marry their equal so to say, or nerd men and nerd women, sport men and sport women etc.People find out their perceived value pretty quickly and then just decide to do solitary hobbies.
>>538811219Women don't love anyone but themselves and maybe their children, conditiknally.
>>538821842>hot cheeto girl wants to bang a bunch of dudessuch many cases, poor guy
i wrote a love poem to a girl and showed it to her and it gave her the ick , we were both 10 or something years old.kids are retarded though so it doesn´t count , you should only ever confess your love if you are already fucking for months and claim to be a coupple not anytime sooner.
>>538821967To me women simply are some tulip-like greater fool asset, I am not seeing it.
>>538811219>Be a man. Be a wagecuck. Pay taxes. Marry a non-virgin. Sign up for divorce rape. Have your kids taken from you by the Jewish divorce court system. Let them be corrupted by state propaganda.Nah just gonna play video games.
>>538811219>"The girl falls out of love"Okay byeWomen are so fucking cringe is unbelievable
>>538822330I have been dating women but never loved any of them. It always was more a thing of convenience than anything else. Then I got older and things got more complicated so my interest eventually pretty much ceased. That is my story.
>>538811729Almost every mainstream commercial ad or radio station these days discourages wimpy lovepuppey beta white males, and encouraged/lionizes manly niggers that are simps and or retards. Most women want the latter, and any that still want the former get brain-blasted into wanting the latter due to herd animal femoid brain social shaming phenomena. It's over. This is happening all over the non BRICS world right now. Never seen Brazilian TV but I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same as well.
>>538822473based kraut who can only feel the memories of his ancestors
>>538811633It’s actually illegal to ask out a stranger if they are a female. It’s called sexual harassment and sexual extortion. Even avoiding mentioning sex and it will still be sexual because the female says so.
>>538822268every man has to learn the hard way about them, once you realize they are basically cattle you realize you cant win with them because the state has been training them since birth to be your ruin
>>538811633>yes boyim, buy me another vacation
>>538811633Yea because women have destroyed everything related to relationships and romance.
>>538812295>>538814791Yeah young women are basically niggers at this point. It’s like reading Shakespear to the ghetto groids swuatting ourside the 7-11.Now Let that sink in.
>>538811633It's dead JimWomen dont want romance
>>538822581sexual harassment laws feed and maintain the service industry complex >no you can only flirt with femail in approved zones or you will starve
>>538811633this post got some feels.
>>538811633>the idea of romantic love.TOTAL BOOMER SIMP DEATH
>>538821048>I had women make the move on me Women will send signals and try to show interest and act flirty and drop hints and do everything they can to try to induce a man into making the first real move, but they will always expect the man to do it.And by "real move" I mean saying or doing something that forces the other person to either reject you or accept the move and acknowledge that this is more than a friendly, platonic, non-sexual, non-romantic interaction. Asking out on a date, inviting them somewhere private for sex, going in for a kiss, etc.It's the man's role to do that, and even if a woman is interested/attracted to a guy and acting flirty and dropping hints and all of that, if he never actually gets around to doing one of those things, eventually she will assume that he isn't interested. Most girls will NEVER make a first real definite move like that, no matter what. It does happen occasionally, but it's rare and definitely not the norm or something you should expect to happen.For example, I've had girls do things like randomly start talking about how some restaurant had updated its menu and how she wanted to go check it out and even "oooh WE should go there on a date sometime!" but still left it up to me to actually ask her out on a date. Or girls out somewhere who will start talking about how they've had too many drinks and don't want to drive and all of this until eventually you are like "ok fine you can stay at my place" and then you go fuck.
>>538811219>>538811417>>538811472Being a "provider" especially when there are no children involved is the most bluepilled shit ever. You're living under a feminist regime but willingly subjecting yourself to old-school obligations without any of the benefits and with all the risks. We have built a completely insane world where women cannot lose while men cannot win.
>>538814191Let's not pretend male zoomers aren't like this as well I play a multiplayer game that I've played for 20 years and the zoomers will just fucking leave you to fucking die. Unlike millennial chads used to risk their ass save you and win the fucking match in the process the zoomers would rather hide in the base to conserve their kill death ratio not giving a shit if they fucking lose the match why the fuck do you queue up if you're just going to be a little bitch?
>>538822757they do but they want it completely on their termsthey want to be worshipped, never held accountable for anything, and to be loved unconditionally while setting all sorts of conditions for you.in short, they want to be God.
>>538811633Isn't just Gen Z, lot of us Millennials saw our dads, uncles, friend's dads, etc go through multiple divorces and get royally screwed. The social contract for men overall even beyond marriage is shit, we learned from mistakes of others.
>>538822895I used to want children when I was in my 20s, now not so much anymore.>>538822874German women are very direct, lots of them will do it especially if they are over 30
>>538821189You can't rely on trying to wait on a girl showing interest in you, it's unreliable. Some girls who are normally talkative and outgoing will suddenly get quiet and clam up around guys they are really interested in because they are nervous. And at the same time, if a girl is acting extremely flirty and interested in a guy it's frequently because she is really just trying to get free attention or favors or drinks and has no actual sexual/romantic interest in him.
>>538811219>be a man. stop complaining. talk to that girl. confess your love. get married. have kids.No, I don't think I will, and you cannot make me. Not my problem.
This is what men want and need
>>538822601>the state has been training them since birth to be your ruinThe kicker here is that it's illegal to even get to them before that. By the time they reach 18+ they've already been exposed to a lifetime of Jewish propaganda and there's just nothing you can do. They're already getting pounded out in high school.I read a pretty convincing post saying it was a Jewish guy who created age of consent laws, specifically for this purpose.When I was a kid, we all UNIVERSALLY thought the kids with parents who "didn't let them watch TV" were weird and crazy. It was inconceivable that you didn't watch goyslop
>>538822874Do you even know how frustrating is when a woman you're not even try that interested in does this?Bitch I'm drunk and the only reason I didn't tell you to gtfo is because I don't have the energy, suck my dick or go somewhere else
>>538819964It's all Pygmalion >According to Ovid, when Pygmalion saw the Propoetides of Cyprus practicing prostitution, he began "detesting the faults beyond measure which nature has given to women".[1] He determined to remain celibate and to occupy himself with sculpting. He made a sculpture of a woman that he found so perfect he fell in love with it. Pygmalion kissed and fondled the sculpture, brought it various gifts, and created a sumptuous bed for it.>In time, Aphrodite's festival day came and Pygmalion made offerings at the altar of Aphrodite. There, too afraid to admit his desire, he quietly wished for a bride who would be "the living likeness of my ivory girl". When he returned home, he kissed his ivory statue, and found that its lips felt warm. He kissed it again, and found that the ivory had lost its hardness. Aphrodite had granted Pygmalion's wishMen love to such a depth that they assume of course women do as well surely right?
>>538811219We were dating for about a month when I told her that I love her. She didn't know quite how to react but a week later she drunkenly told me that she loves me too and didn't want to say anything too soon but then I made the first move. Funniest part was she didn't remember and I teased her about it the next day and she kept blushing every time I brought it up. I'm going to marry this girl, we're going to have kids. She's cooking supper for me right now. Love her so damn much.
>>538811219>women are playing 4d chess to determine the genetic fitness of men while also going on dating apps and instagram to sleep with random men lol give it up. trads really can't admit women aren't choosing the best genetics because it will call into question their own marriages
>>538823445Congratulations, anon.
>>538823524Thanks man. I thought I had given up hope when she found me.
>>538821531>Hmm, the Duke boys were.There is a huge difference between some frat bros hiring drunk black strippers to a private party vs hitting on a girl in a normal way.For every example of some guy getting falsely accused of rape, there are millions of examples of guys doing all kinds of stuff and never getting accused of anything. It's actually insane how much creepy and socially retarded behavior women put up with without making a big deal about it. You can pretty much avoid the possibility of even getting accused of anything simply by not fucking girls who are drunk/high, and not continuing to pester and coerce girls into having sex with you after they have made it clear they aren't interested.You can avoid getting shamed by gym thots by simply not interacting with them. Whenever they try to shame some random guy who is legitimately minding his own business, it just makes the gym thot look retarded and they get called out for it.
Also there's too many fat women in this fucking country.
>>538820987> a girl in her 40s >in her 40s>a girl
>>538811633you watched too much hollywood movies
>SAAAAR!>EVERYWHERE I GO I MUST SHIT SAAAR!
>>538811219Sure, talk to that girlWhile shes sucking bbc Thatll make everything just fine
>>538811617Give them chad or give them death
>>538821920The stuff about getting added to her roster was cucky, but the general gist of what that anon said was correct. You should be clear and honest about your sexual/romantic interests from the start. Trying to conceal that and acting like a friendly "Nice Guy" hoping to win over a girl and eventually weasel your way into her panties is NOT actually traditional values. You are being dishonest about what you want. The asshole guy who makes it clear from the start that he doesn't actually like a girl and just wants to fuck her and not do a bunch of old timey courtship nonsense is at least honest about his intentions.
>>538819130they really got them believing in fairy tales
>>538823097>uddenly get quiet and clam up around guys they are really interested in because they are nervous.This is absolutely not true. I have had really shy girls give me big hints and show interest openly, they are just extremely stuttery and autistic though compared normalfag Stacies. If you have to do all the work in working for a women's attraction, they are not attracted to you, period, and you should move on.
>>538821922holy shit where the fuck do you think you are posting you retardthis is where all the abused mentally damaged social rejects gather, it was never something we understoodyou act like touching a women isn't like the hardest thing, most scary difficult thing ever on par with comitting suicideWe train hard for this shit.what the fuck do you think we know what touching iscome fight me 1 on 1, go ahead touch methought so fucking retard
I'm white manhttps://youtu.be/GI6EOQ0Zuq8?is=
>>538821922>do the gay timid shit you are suggesting and just sit there and wait on her to give you an obvious signal.Buddy I am not being gay or timid, I am either hanging out with other friends or doing some activity that has women in the vicinity and these same women just find the way I act attractive and make it obvious *yes, including resting their head on my shoulder and getting cuddly with me in anticipation of me escalating to sex). This isn't the 2007 PUA era where you just go out and daygame/nightgame and do non-stop cold approaches to random women in public with some peacocking faggot bullshit. All that does these days is make you look like a desperate and thirsty faggot at best, and creepy rapist who makes women scared of you at worst. I didn't write the rules of modern day dating, so don't get mad at me, but your advice is old and outdated and can get a lot of men hurt.
>>538811219>nasty BPD boomer who wants to murder his mom insults younger men
>>538825250you are gay i can see it by the way you write
>>538825250its like when a homo is shaking his ass when he walks just looks fucking ridiculous man
>>538821920So unless you’re waiting for a virgin.>ask girl out for love >she’s currently dating someone or not interested yet>it doesn’t work out with who she’s with>she thinks of you>or she gained interest over time from exposureSame idea if it’s for sexMy point is that if you try to be friends first, you’re not even an option regardless of the circumstance. Whore or virgin, or whatever in between. Friend first, you’re in the friendzone box with 99% chance of never getting out. All women have a roster, every single one, this is because any woman that isn’t an old dirty hag has guys hitting on her constantly. You’re an idiot if you think it’s either she is only thinking about you or she must be a whore. She’s always thinking about what’s available to her, there’s just a hierarchy.
>>538824727>This is absolutely not true.It's true with some girls. The whole point is that you shouldn't be waiting on girls to show interest or try to decipher her signals and shit like that. The ONLY way to know for sure whether a girl is into you or not is by hitting on her and doing something that either gets a definite yes or no rejection.>If you have to do all the work in working for a women's attractionYou zoomtards look at everything completely wrong. You're a man, you don't need to be attractive. It's the female role to attract a mate. The male role is to see an attractive female and make moves and push things forward sexually.
>>538825597ok boomer theyre drawn to hot guys like flies on honey
>>538825597>It's the female role to attract a mateThey suck at it big time. Complain to them
This is his wife. Ironically she'd be censured today for telling teenage trannies NOT to cut off their families.
>>538825752>They suck at it big time. Complain to themI am not attracted to modern Western women anymore. The idea of having children with one are stuff nightmares are made of
>>538811617This is how you radicalize young men into rape van operators
>>538821842I have the same Ikea lamp.
>>538821842>I just wanna be independent but with you still giving me moneyyou can't hate women enough. She wants to be put in her place here btw, it's a shit test
>>538825597>You zoomtards look at everything completely wrong.I'm a younger Millenial in my early 30's.>You're a man, you don't need to be attractive.You do nowadays, blame social media. The only unattractive men who get gf's (never a rotation of one night stands though) are those with a very tight mixed-gender social circle where they can demonstrate their personality and "win the girl" over without instant rejection. This usually only applies to university students where forming such groups is possible. Being ugly and trying to blatantly hit on random women in public does not work.>The whole point is that you shouldn't be waiting on girls to show interest or try to decipher her signals and shit like that.I've only been the active pursuer 3 times in my life, and all 3 times the sex was terrible, they never really seemed that interested and nothing substantial developed beyond that. All my best lays and ONLY long term relationships developed from women who actively and aggressively showed interest in me, like to the point where saying "no" or turning them down would be grounds for calling me gay. If they are interested, they make it that obvious, and anything less than that is not worth your time.
Im tall handsome rich and command the attention of women everywhere. As soon as they notice me they immediately react involuntarily because of my aura. Yet I’m too comfortable by myself and have too much to lose by approaching them. I’m a coward but I like it it’s been working out great for me.
>>538826501have you been feeling your pineal gland/third eye throbbing in your head lately?
>>538819563Dude, if you are 33 years old and you supposedly have all your shit together and you are telling me you have not yet experienced how women aged 21 to 25 will look at you when you try? I can tell you you will have a different experience from 10 years ago, guranteed. Just don't put a ring on the first one who drains your balls.
>>538820142I remember I was younger and I was at some party where women were shitting on dudes because they looked at porn. I simply opened the most recent romance novel these women have been talking about on my phone and started reading the sex passage out loud and they all fucking begged me to stop reading while their bluepill fag boyfriends were horrified
>>538826693No idea, I am depressed and too bothered to deal with the world anymore outside of my work
>>538826564Yes I’ve always been too sensitive for this world and I pick up on stuff like that as well. Although after traumatic life events my heart hardened a lot compared to myself as a child and I lost some of that
>>538826780Dude I feel you I'm in a similar spot. Career wise everything turned out more or less perfect. Looking to start a family with women now and it's like holy fuck the amount of damage they get rinsed through within the first four or five times they honestly give their heart to a guy and then turns out he's just fucking him is kind of depressing. You can have fun with these chicks if you view them as them being your turn, however then you are likely part of the same issue that you are frustrated with. This feels unclean for anyone with any shred of morality or soul in their heart.You're only real option is to snag some kind of illiterate Third World chick who can't be fed but then you would have to go live in the Third World with her otherwise as soon as she enters the west she will start figuring out how to take all your shit for herself.
>>538827025I dont want to do that anymore, back in my 20s I would have but not now anymore.
