What can we do to alleviate the estrogen shortage?
do a flip you cunt
It’s just the patches there’s other forms available. Nothing burger
ban transgender treatment
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>>538834365Cull the trannies
>>538834365When the internet started there was already tranny porn stars ready to go. It was not until 2015 that any doctor or insurance company would openly endorse or pay for. Yet where ere fully transitioned troons ready for porn..I've always suspected jews created troons out of some of the boys they kidnap. Any oldfags can help me remember the thread name we can dig up the one where an Anon proves all sissy hypno comes form jewish psychiatrists
>>538834365Put trannies on natural supplements
>>538834365Why can't we just produce an excess of these medicines and keep a running stockpile?How is it even possible that we get shortages of asthma meds, adhd meds, estrogen etc? Do the pharma companies not know how to estimate demand?
This isn’t true. Patches are getting difficult to source since that’s primarily what’s prescribed for perimenopause. Vials of EV and pills are plentiful. Also given the population percentage of transwomen, it’s mathematically impossible for them to use more than women getting hrt for menopause.What’s more likely is that women’s health is finally being taken more seriously and causing more women starting menopause to actually get treatment instead of it getting denied and told it’s in their head. Hrt is older than viagra, its effects are well understood, but medical malpractice and gatekeeping insurance companies are still a problem.
>>538834630They'll cull themselves, given enough time
>>538834766It’s not so easy as that. There are limits to manufacturing capacity. And equipment breaks down, clean rooms get contaminated, etcetera, which eats up schedule time to fix. They also are dealing with complex supply chains, and all of this is heavily regulated, which slows everything down considerably. There are also highly regulated expiries for all medications, so stockpiling is not possible beyond a certain point. t. Former pharma manufacturing dude
Based trannies punishing foids for their sickening hubris.
>The estrogen wars have begunLike vampires who need constant blood to consume, these hellish creatures need to always have a fresh supply of female juices to gorge themselves on, lest they begin to revert to their natural form! They roam in packs, preyone on older women at pharmacies everywhere and hoarding all the E-pills that should go to me-maws with hot flashes. Terrible creatures.
>>538835048>prescribed for perimenopause>more women starting menopause to actually get treatmentWhat are you saying? That it's totally normal now to intervene in a natural process so we can pretend to be young and healthy while we're old and sick? >More quality of life less suffering.Oh come on now you know that everything in biology is a trade-off. Are you telling me that there are truly no health risks for supplementing estrogen to aging women and testosterone to aging men?
>>538835363Why doesn't the government make it themselves? Like generic asthma inhalers or ADHD meds. Even if all the companies go out of business people would still need their meds.
>>538834365I remember reading some tranny brewing estrogen in the bathtub, then trying to sell it online. Someone who bought a vial said there was a hair in there.I think I read about it on here because they were being investigated by the FBI for illegal manufacturing of pharmaceuticals + using the mail system to traffic said drugs. That's all I remember though lol.
>>538835605What problem does the government doing it solve? All the same constraints and problems exist. Instead of the regulation being external it would be internal quality control.
I don’t think people need to supplement estrogen. It’s a stress hormone
>>538834365Start harvesting it from dead nigger men
>>538835573Menopause is awful you can’t sleep or think. There’s nothing wrong with treating it. It’s not going to restore fertility or youthful skin. It just helps women sleep better and not have brain fog and depression.
>>538834365No one "Needs" it, old ladies are just taking it to try to ignore menopause and that they should be taking care of their grandkids now.
just do the bathtub diy estrogen italian troons were doing during the covid HRT shortageThey basically were steeping plastic bags in bathwater and injecting it lolTotally normal btw
>>538834365Who cares about estrogen? The real problem is how testosterone is only prescribed for trans men. Women can get testosterone if they think they're men. Men who are low in testosterone can't get it. Cuckservatards will never address this and neither will they address male genital mutilation which affects at least half of males.
>>538834365they voted for it
>>538835695the bathtub thing is a prohibition joke from the Simpsons when he was brewing beer in his bathtub.But you're probably thinking of the Brazillian transgirl that sells injection vials of E2. But the Brazillian government looked into it and told her as long as she is only selling to people outside Brazil they do not care. For a while /pol/ targeted her so the police and government are aware of the operation and say it is all legal and fine.
>>538834766Many medications are expensive to produce and have a short shelf life and need to be refrigerated. This means you want to produce about what needs to be consumed, because any more would be a large waste.
>>538835605You'd still have ingredient sourcing problems and equipment delays. Involving the government just means you'll have a shit product thats also delayed
>>538834365Thank Iran
>>538835573>health risks for TRTIts actually quite minimal and probably the safest shit you can do when not being abusedP sure they have the steroid olympics which all the athletes are using FDA approved and under immense medical supervisionAll that for one broken world record that wont count, lmaoEveryone dopes at the higher levels anyways, its a sham to mask it all as integrity Steroids in general, when not abused to shit, are some of the safer things available to people nowadays
>>538836957Its not a joke when bodybuilders did the same for tren and test all the time way back when
>>538835695keffals was selling like illegal third world unregulated estrogen that was damage people I think
>>538834444Checked
>>538836987Estradiol is chemically stable. It's fully oxidized already.There is no shortage in the estradiol APIs. The shortages occur because most countries have control over pharmaceutical supply chains. They usually require companies to make the final product in-country.But for hormones currently only China can actually manufacture them for the most part. It requires genetically engineered bacteria to produce and China has the best government program for it. They also hold all the patents, all the researchers, and all the archives of bacteria made.There are fully synthetic pathways of course but they aren't cost effective which is why something like 97% of hormone APIs come from China. The pathways to do it from diosgenin also requires chrome-6 which is nasty stuff. Probably why it's done in India where the workers are expendable.I don't think there are any hormone APIs made in any Western country. Lots of finished product of course. But not the APIs.
>>538835605That requires a competent government that employs competent people. Anyone who has been to the DMV, at least in the US, knows competency isn't common.
>>538834365Make all birth control illegal, that means condoms and pills and procedures. It will sort itself out.
>>538837281Sounds about right for globalized supply chains. Everything has become JIT, which makes everything extremely brittle. It's difficult to compete against JIT because local production and warehousing is an added expense. Those using globalized JIT will always be able to beat you on price, resulting in there being no domestic producers of any part of the process that isn't required to be local. Even worse is when part of the supply line regulated and part of it is not, resulting in all the brittleness of globalized JIT and the overhead of regulation.
Trannies were cooking plastic bags during covid, convinced the disgusting chemical soup would give them estrogen.
>>538836987I checked and Indian estradiol valerate pills have a 2 year spreads between manufacture and expiry. My T cypionate vials have 3 year spreads. A lb of T cypionate API has 5 year spreads, and I'm pretty sure you can just send the shit off to a lab for an updated CoA to get another 5 years. This shit isn't going bad in a sealed container in a refrigerator. They're running out because they're retarded. "Complex systems won't survive the competency crisis." As the world becomes more brown, the average IQ goes down. The lower IQ goes, the more broad the definition of complex systems become. >>538836859>cuckservativesOnly cuckservatives would lick boots enough to accept harm to their health for a lack of the proper paperwork.>>538837281>They usually require companies to make the final product in-country.Where? The US FDA sends inspectors to China and India. If they are denied access to the plant, they mark every batch made in what they couldn't inspect as contaminated. It becomes illegal to import or sell in the US. I got a box of pills from my pharmacist with Chinese characters and got curious. The manufacturer had a history of that. The FDA enforcement letter cited pill presses with missing parts. They were denied further access after photographing the presses. They're producing final products for sale in the US. That's why they have presses on the floor.
>>538834365They did the same thing in the UK>dont look at out failing stat, blame the tranniesEstrogen is so cheap to make it should be borderline free
>>538840294If one can't speak truthfully, one can't address the causes of problems.
