The earliest/oldest form of>ancient religion>(that I can confirm with any continuity to today anyhow)appears to go ALL THE WAY BACK to the likes of>Çatalhöyükin south central Anatolia, which was a dense settlement of people that built what is arguably the first know 'city' styled settlement waay back somewhere between>approximately 7500 BC to 5600 BCbut apparently 'flourished' around>7000 BCa mere>9000 years agoWhat makes this interesting an up for debate is the fact that the oldest known representation of the 'religious' or 'spiritual' symbol called today the>hamsa>which means "five">represented literally by the human hand, which has five fingers - thus the namewas found IN ÇatalhöyükThe>hamsais said to represent the ancient>Punic goddess>TanitThe worship of Tanit was brought by ancient Phoenicians to north Africa, supposedly by the exiled>Dido (Elissa)who was the FIRST queen and founder of Carthage - and her homeland being obviously ancient>CanaanHer home city>Tyrelies a mere>921 kmor>572 mifrom ÇatalhöyükWHAT'S MOREis the fact that ancient>Luwian 'hieroglyphsalmost DEFINITELY evolved from the very symbolism used at places like>Gobekli TepeWHICH ALSO COINCIDENTALLY show symbolism related to the>crescent moonSPECFICALLY to the kind that were carved into>Tophet stelewhich STILL EXIST and are observable today
>>538844232it's ALSO observable, the continuity and clearly used symbolism employed by those ancient>Luwian peoplealong with the>Hittitesappeared to have continued these traditions, whatever they really were, which can also be observed in the OP imagethis would include the worship of an unnamed>fat lady goddess whom was depicted being flanked by a lion on each sidewhich obviously evolved into the goddess>Cybeleor>Phrygian origina goddess that was only picked up later by the invading Phrygians when they arrived in central anatolia; and is actually an OLDER version of the goddess>Kubaba
>>538844232If only there was a board dedicated to history maybe you would fuck off to it>>538844232
this particular area of southeast anatolia appears to be the EPICENTER of NUMEROUS ancient traditions and even>humanity's firstsincluding the domestication of animals
>>538844304>butthurti already posted it there, kikenow i'm posting it herehistory is political also, cocksmokelol, look at your circus freak ancestors
>>538844325>>538844325>this particular area of southeast anatolia appears to be the EPICENTER of NUMEROUS ancient traditionsgoing even further - the appearance of what later evolved into>the vedasand eventually>hinduismALSO comes from this particular area - inasmuch as the oldest references to the vedas and the 'gods' contained within ALSO appears to come from this very area!
>>538844325>>538844406but this theory gets even MORE interesting, when you consider the previously mentioned>coincidences aboveregarding the symbolism between ancient luwians and hittites, with the WAY MORE ancient finding of that>hamsaat>Çatalhöyükbut following this, the appeared continuation of whatever evil, despicable practices these folks engaged in, when you witness other artifacts left behind by the ancient>Punic/Carthaginiansand how CLOSELY the artwork and sybolism they employed, appears to correlate back directly with those of the ancient luwians and hittite 'religion' and what eventually evolved into the predecessor of the religion of the>vedasthen carried to it's modern conclusion>hinduismwhich employs to this day, MUCH THE SAME SYMBOLISM!
>>538844525and obviously this image includes the>etruscanswhom were cloose partners of the early>carthaginiansand even GOT their own WRITING SCRIPT from>phoenicianDIRECTLYso directly in fact, that the etruscan language was swritten 'backwards' or>right to leftinstead of>left to rightlike latin and obviously english are today
>>538844525>>538844568but the coincidences don't stop therethey just keep going and going..
>>538844616now you may be thinking>if you're already awarethe carthaginians also engaged in child sacrificeso the question may be>where's the proof hindus did, or even DO?yet another coincidenceexactly the thing ancient phoenicians and later carthaginians engaged in; and their descedents likely still practiceor let's be honest, the>epstein filesconfirm they still do it
>>538844616SO NOWyou may be wondering>ooook crazy guy>an emaciated representation of the buddha (supposedly)>but from pre-columbian mexicoYES INDEED!in fact, the coincidences are STARTLING when you consider the fact that ancient meso-americans related to the spanish conquistadors that>1. "bearded white people" came from across the sea and brought us 'civilization'and in fact MORE than ONE culture from that area says the same thing>2. the practice of HUMAN SACRIFICE stop of 'stepped pyramids'makes ya think, don't it?now some may speculate that>UGH OK FINE>they 'kinda' look similar>but there's NO EVIDENCE of canaanite DNA being left behind by these ancient marinersRUH ROH
>>538844525further curiosities regarding the theory posted in this thread regarding>etruscaninvolvement in whatever this proto-vedic religion include a literal>blue skinned 'god'the likes of which are common in hinduism todaykeep in mind, the early romans were ruled by the etruscans, but eventually destroyed themjust like they do later to the carthaginians :D
>>538844714>certainly a PAULTRY FEW of 'stepped pyramids' that 'kinda look alike' is NO PROOF of trans-oceanic travel in antiquitypossibly...some of them SURE DO LOOK SIMILAR>ah but that's just a few examples...
>>538844918>ah but that's just a few examples...yet, there's more than just a>few
>>538844714>>538844918>>538845127NOWperhaps, if you've paid attention this long, your next question might be>what OTHER evidence is there>that ancient mariners>brought this apparently little known, but otherwise wide-spread, proto-vedic religion to mesoamerica?muchIN FACT, literally>the hamsaas mentioned in the OP and an image of which was provided in the OP image - shows VERY CLEARLY more evidence exists in even>NORTH AMERICAitselfi can say this with certainty because of AMPLE evidence of the north american native peoples>the cahokia, for exampleHAD THE HAMSA TOO!
>>538845161but it gets even>WEIRDERthe>cahokiaalong with the>hopibut also, VERY COINCIDENTALLY a people callin themselves the>hatteraswhich is RIDICULOUSLY similar to the name the indigenous people of>anatoliacalled themselves BEFORE the hittites invaded central anatolia around>2000 BCall of these groups shared this SAME STRANGE symbolism, and the hopi constructed their living spaces almost IDENTICALLY to the people of ancient>Çatalhöyük
>>538845237>but also, VERY COINCIDENTALLY a people calling themselves the>hatteras>which is RIDICULOUSLY similar to the name the indigenous people of anatolia called themselves BEFORE the hittites invaded central anatolia around 2000 BCwhich was>hattilet's also compare the strange coincidence that the lady's hat is nearly identical to the one worn in the stone relief from that image depicting>kubabathe ancient southeast anatolian>mother goddesscuz that's not weird either; nor that her hair is even braided too!!>WHAT A COINCIDENCEI'm sure it happens all the time!
so while this thread IS totally formed from a very strange number of coincidences -- keep in mind that people have been>convictedwith less>circumstancial evidencethan I've provided so far for literal>murderin courtso try to keep an open mindalso consider the question>how many 'coincidences' does one need to proof something>before it is true?well, I'm not entirely sure - but i do have MORE>pic somewhat related>ruins of ancient indo-european 'luwian' hierogylphs and beat up statues
>>538845343i do have MOREand now we come to the>piri reis mapit was compiled by a>guess! GUESSOTTOMAN>anatolianAdmiral of their navy, based on even MORE ancient maps from..where?ANATOLIAthe controversy surrounding this map, is the fact that it depicted the eastern coasts of NORTH and SOUTH america LONG before this knowledge>'should have been'known at the time
now we move on to>TIMELINESSone may be asking>IF this were true; IF this WERE EVEN POSSIBLE>ancient mariners of the phoenicians/hitittes/carthaginians/ancient anatolians>didn't EXIST at the same time the fledgling civilizations of mesoamerica began to formand if you thought this...you'd be>WRONG
>>538845408the number of recorded>swastikashaving been found around the planet, are yet ANOTHER instance of>'just coincidence'within this storyand amazingly, the locations they've been found, directly correlate with my theory>and THEN some
here are images of the original>hamsafound in the ruins of>Çatalhöyükwith it's very obvious similarity to the kind find in>north americaamong the>hatteras and cahokiapeople, as mentioned here>>538844232>>538845161>>538845237
>>538845468>a wavy line>>538844714>>538845127>the practice of HUMAN SACRIFICE stop of 'stepped pyramids'>ancient sea-farersJUST ONE BIG 'OL COINCIDENCE!
>>538845565ah and don't forgetthose>tophet steledepicte in the image from that postALSO FEATURE>the 'hamsa'carved into it - along with what I believe are>waves of water/river/or oceani say this for what should be obvious>they conducted seafaring in order to trade goods>this was a HUGE part of their culture and critical for their survival
>>538845565>>538845619the>child sacrificeaspect however, was>critical to their survivaltoo, in a waybut only when you consider they apparently needed to engage in that human atrocity, to keep their evil civilization of death and taking advantage of the weak and defenseless up to and including killing them for their own benefita truth about their descendants and the culture they formed out of this behavior which obviously, still exists today
unless this isn't ALREAEDY known by most peoplethe>phoeniciansbut ESPECIALLY their descendents>carthaginianswere PROLIFIC sea farersthey literally came from a land that's mostly desert, had VERY FEW resources and not enough>farmlandto REALLY get their civilizations goingbut what they DID have a BUTT TON OF was>WOODand REALLY BIG pieces of wood - this being literally>the cedar trees from the mountain ranges of ancient canaanso, to their credit, they took a sitation that gave their culture and civilizations metaphorical>lemonsthen turned this lack of resources into an AMAZING opportunity, allowing them to provide for their people by using>international sea faring/tradeto subsidize their lives and cities, instead of farming for examplethey're also responsible for having found the first>gorillasand their word for them>'gorillai'was literally invented by themnow consider this happened about>2500 years agowhen this journey began - HUNDREDS of years before the Romans stomped their shit into oblivionfor historical reference, the US has gone from it's early history of>no electricity>no form of flight>no form of mass transportation>NO space flight (duh)to having ALL of thos things in a span of less than>200 years
REALLY?no one?
>>538845781Condense the point you're making nigger nobody wants to read through 25(!) schizoposts
>>538845781i read all of it and still have no idea what point are you trying to get across.
>>538847172>>538847435ancient seafaring proto-kikes brought ancient child sacrifice to ancient mesoamericans, but also their religion was some variation of pre-vedic religion that includes child sacrifice, ritual prostitution, and it would have continued in the west if the romans hadn't genocided thembasicallylel
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>>538850138>>538850504thanks fellas
>>538844232cant you just label your pics properly, niggerfucksi'm getting too old for this shithow the fuck do i label your diarrhea?
>>538852884i'm not joking
>>538852884>cant you just label your pics properlycan you be more specific?>>538852911still not sure what you mean
>>538847770FINALLY>ancient seafaring proto-kikes brought ancient child sacrifice to ancient mesoamericans their religion pre-vedic child sacrifice ritual prostitution the romans genocided them.pnga titleFUCK
>>538852946ancient seafaring proto-kikes brought ancient child sacrifice to ancient mesoamericans their religion pre-vedic child sacrifice ritual prostitution the romans genocided them.pngNEXT!
>>538853081uhokwell you seem satisfied with my theorythx 4 that
>>538853130i am satisfied with all theories but sure yours is cooler than mostdont worry my archives will most likely die with meunless ai+kikes do something else than wiping out my records like they did my 30K usenet posts
>>538853172>dont worry my archives will most likely die with mewell if you've got something to say make a thread, then there's a chance your archive will live onthat's why i made this thread - so at least people are aware of these possibilitiesHEYdid you know that >FRENCHarcheologists were the first to discover evidence that the>tophetis ACTUALLY REALPROVING that all those stories of ancient proto-kikes and later on kikes themselves>REALLY DIDsacrifice their children to demons?
>>538844232who is lying?
>>538853294>well if you've got something to say make a thread, then there's a chance your archive will live onhahaha you dont know mei'll shit all over your thread if i feel like itfuck youthat's how i nuked an entire newsgroupdont make me remember my youth, you'll regret it
>>538853294and yes i've got something to sayLABEL YOUR PICS PROPERLY YOU MORONyou want people to store and spread your lore?LABEL IT UPFUCKER
>>538853373>However >this popular internet rumor stems from a fascinating>verified archaeological discovery >regarding the earliest written record >of the Sanskrit language and Vedic culture.you just played yourself>>538853494>LABEL YOUR PICS PROPERLY YOU MORONthe website changes the file name to a random set of numbers, so if you're that concerned, consider labeling them something that makes sense to you
>>538853458someone's had a little too much cheese and wine
>>538853573>the website changes the file name to a random set of numbersNO IT DOES NOT
>>538853885mm i dunnoooobut regardless, the naming of the file is your biggest gripe?
