The hatred towards circumcision is alarming and unfounded.There is actually a very beautiful and holy reason for circumcision which any defenders of Western Civilization should embrace. Circumcision is about resistance against lust. It prevents men from lusting after sex and reinforces the fact sex is for the act of procration and mutual pleasure between loving partners. It is because our modern society is ruled by lust that we see vast amounts of moral decay. Moral relativism is everywhere. Secularism has destroyed any sense of virtue. Desire to take from others sexually has made these things almost impossible to fight against.I do believe with all honesty that circumcision is an act of scaling back a society dominated by sexual lust. Sex is about giving to the other person, not taking.Many great minds of Western Civilization have also said this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBWAi0ZCfdkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AK_EUsIBlwThere is also no logical reason to oppose metzitzah b'peh. MBP is done for reasons of hygiene and for kabbalistic reasons involving the correcting of Adam's sin and revealing the holiness of the soul. There is no evidence MBP is anything nefarious. Remember: Jesus underwent metzitzah b'pehhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLZvEelu7IAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU2Sr1l4IfwThere is also physical and spiritual beauty in metzitzah b'peh. And it is NOT pedophilia but done for HEALTH REASONS (and mystical reasons):https://youtu.be/M4Tazlv3Tuo?si=64G8tsO60Lxf2baF&t=7516
https://youtu.be/bX-ot9vGgpk
>>538850239I disagree. It's the opposite. Circumcision makes boys and young men constantly aroused by friction down there and makes them insecure. And when men actually wisen up, mature in their 40s their dicks stop working because of circumcision and lots of wisen up and worthy men don't leave their heir and leave us permanently.
>>538850239Die, kike.
Again with this?https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/%22scaling%20back%20a%20society%22/yawn
>>538850699>>538850648>>538850239Hello Israel
>>538850693No.>>538850699Prove me wrong.
No one cares, the point is that its immoral to subject a newborn or a child to such a procedure because they cannot understand th implications nor can they give their consent. Sometimes its necessary due to malformation in the prepuce, our excessive tightness but otherwise, leave the children alone, weirdo.Adults are free to modify their bodies however they want, as long as its an informed and freely made decision, that is. Otherwise its mutilation. The same way that scarrification is seen as art when done on purpose to display patterns on the skin but is considered mutilation if someone starts flaying people's faces without their consent.Your argument on lust isnt valid; you're taking the nuclear option for something which could be solved with a ban on porn all together. Should you remove women's nipples because they are sexually suggestive to men and breastmilk can be replaced by a formula ? Preposterous and retarded. If lust is what drives your argument for men, then that means circumcision should also be done to women, which is simply barbaric and not codified by the religious text you quote.Mongrel savage is what I call you; crawl back to your hole, commie.
>>538850239Kikes are out in full force as usual
>>538850747Nope. Wrong son. Geoflag glownigger shills fuck off
>>538850239My wife likes it, and that works for me.
Kys cutdick kike.No foreskin no opinion.
>>538850771If it's wrong why are your Royals circumcised?
>>538850239>It prevents men from lusting after sexNo it doesn't lmao
>>538850239You're a moron.Real circumcision was done with a flint and became unnecessary after Jesus.Your pagan ritual was created 200 years after the temple fell, by edomtie-jews and who never saw nor worshipped in ANY temple, while reverting to their blood rituals originally begun under their forbearers, the canaanites.You mention cult rituals which directly contradict the torah and were one of the reason the real Israelite kingdom fell after incorporating canaanite beliefs. You mention hygiene protocols - but that's what the traditions of the elders originally were - per Josephus. And they were REJECTED by the 2nd Temple priests as being fake and non-binding.
>>538850239THIS THIS THIS.Jesus Christ said if a part of you causes you to sin cut it off and throw it away, because it's better to go to heaven without it than into hell with it.He wasn't joking. The foreskin does absolutely nothing but enable you to enjoy sin. It's an act of faith to remove it or have it removed from your children.God has ALWAYS said people should cut it off and that even removing it from others earns his favor and blessing.
>>538850239a) Ancient Hebrews adopted the circumcision custom from ancient Egypt.b) According to the ancient custom they only cut off the "flaps" that hang off the tip, not the entire sheath of the glans. Stretching to recover the flaps was a very common procedure back in the day, which is why yids started removing the foreskin completely somewhere after 600 A.D.
>>5388509251 Cor 7 -- sexual enjoyment is a direct commandment by Christ.Anything that empedes sexual function is a grave sin in Christianity.
>>538850900Never even looked it up, wont do it for you either lol. Nice deflect, who cares what the royal husks are doing, they certainly don't seem to care about us. Your shithole of a country has the highest AIDs presence in the world; you don't get to have an opinion in sexual health.
>>538850990That's not what Christ said. That's what Paul said concerning marriage in the church. Funny you left that part out in order to ignore everything Jesus Christ said.You can enjoy it enough without a small bit of skin that would have caused you to sin before marriage.
>>538850239Old pasta is oldOP is a faggot as always
>>538850239I was circumcised and still extremely horny. I think circumcision makes sense in desert countries with poor medical facilities but it's the modern day and damaging to European societies.
My wife said to me, she wishes I weren't circumsized, because she wishes I had smegma that she wants to eat.
>>538850913the hygiene argument is an ad nauseum attack. the brutal scar is utterly disgusting. the entire half of your dick sawn off. the scar tissue can't beat disease and filth like skin can. it's horrifying.
>>538850771>No one cares, the point is that its immoral to subject a newborn or a child to such a procedure because they cannot understand th implications nor can they give their consent.Is bodily autonomy absolute?
Circumcision promotes lust because it creates an eternal state of dissatisfaction in sex and even climax. You are always yearning for a sensation you know you should have but were robbed of through the removal of an entire organ structure - one which is at the center of human reproduction and fulfillment. Just had to come chime in mid shroom trip cuz OP is so full of shit its unreal.
>>538850990>>538851051Also, might interest you to know, Paul himself was circumcised and said if you know the law you should follow the law, and the law upholds circumcision. Only ignorance of the law might possibly excuse you. Do you know the law? Yes, I think you do. And you enjoy the thought of sin and physical lust so much you'll deny Scripture as a whole.
>>538851107I'm right and you can't debunk me, Ivan.
>>538851051I gave you the citation, you dumb nigger.Circumcision defiles the marriage bed.Foreskin doesn't cause you to sin. Foreskin exists to make marital life easier, cutting it off because someone "might" use it for fornication is like sewing up the asshole because someone "might" abuse it for homosexual purposes.
>>538851169The law is Moses' Levirate law, you dumb nigger.Read Paul's epistle you are quoting - he specifically says the law only applies to Abraham's tribe and is an ethnic custom, not universal divine commandment.
>>538851124Bullshit, 10 points from gryffindoor.
>>538851171I can put your wife's entire head inside my foresking and you can't.
>>538851261P.S. All of this is irrelevant anyways, because rabbinic circumcision is an entirely different custom that violates mosaic laws.
>>538851135In what way ? If its to solve a health problem, then of course modifications have to be made. Removing a tooth due to tooth decay ? Fine, A new one will grow anyway , and it is rotten. Making an incision so that the prepuce is wide enough to be pulled back, cleaned and allow unrination ? Fine, its necessary. Removing the appendix due to it being sick ? Again fine. But when you start discussing asolutely non necessary procedures that arent reversable; you are permanently making changes to a child who wont understand nor be able able to approve of such changes for years. Thats why tattoos are illegal under 18, thats why gender "change" should be illegal everywhere under 18, and thats why circumcision in my opinion is barbarism.
>>538851032>Your flagOh, but your flag gives you great moral authority? Please explain
Resisting lust by mutilation is a cop out. A truly pious person would resist lust even though he still has a functioning penis and sex still feels good.You are removing the ability for a man to be virtuous by circumcising him.
>>538851127Yeah - it's totally nonsensical. They're drones just repeating bullshit taught to them. The first people Rabbinics screw over are their own children.The best part is that we have all this factually from Josephus. A Jew who originally studied the pharisees, said fuck that and joined the military, lost, became a roman slave, earned his freedom, and then stayed in Rome. Basically all of rabbinic Judaism can be deconstructed with 3 Jews:Josephus, Neusner, & Scholem.
This retarded argument is like saying that by cutting out a man's tongue you are helping him resist the temptation to lie.
Mutilating children is evil and all you abrahamic cock suckers will suffer in the afterlife. Judaism is basically a pedo religion.
>>538851445My arguments remain unchallenged, your question will remain unanswered lol.
>>538851137Ding ! Ding ! Ding ! Logic showed up, finally..
>>538851308I'm a woman.
in gaming this is called the git gud mentality, they suffered through something awful and logically so should you because it builds characteryou need to cut babys genitals because god got everything right except that one thinghttps://youtu.be/4VxdufqB9zg
>>538850239>It prevents men from lusting after sexHow? Is the prepuce the lust organ or something?
>>538851843Sex shouldn't be for pleasure. It should only be for procreation.
>>538851621>My argumentsEnjoy your reddit gold you master debater
>>538851891Enjoy your AIDs and failed deflection attempts retard.
>>538850239>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBWAi0ZCfdk >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AK_EUsIBlw OP is clearly this guy making these ragebait threads in order to promote his videos.OP is Canadian. This particular jewtuber is also Canadian. Both promote Judaism. Coincidence?
>>538852072He very clearly isn't a /pol/tard by his videos and he also already has 40k subscribers
>>538851970>Enjoy your AIDsThe true character of the laurentian shines
>>538852072plato was a fool and admitted he didn't understand the concepts he and cratylus so unashamedly obfuscated to fit their points of viewheraclitus didn't founf a school or gather disciple because he explicitly said anyone can see the logos because every is the logosthere are no "aristocrats" of the 'soul'https://youtu.be/9pRGoSbYHQE
>>538852210Plato was right about sex.
>>538852232where does the fire come from
>>538852210Plato wanted to steal children from their fathers and raise them by the (((republic))). Midwits love him, because no child left behind but the real reason they love him is because this destroys the free and beautiful souls
>>538852169Good, you are able to stay on topic when you answer my insults; now debate the arguments lol.
>>538852072Gotta use his consistency against him and pushback with facts he doesn't want seen, anytime his script comes up.
>>538852350Fuck off. I reveal that your royal family are in the circumcision game and you respond by wishing aids on me and my people. I want nothing to do with your filth
>There is also no logical reason to oppose metzitzah b'peh. MBP is done for reasons of hygieneThere is no reason to oppose pogroming the jews at this point
>>538851864Make excision mandatory then.
>>538852441What evidence is there that those babies got herpes from MBP?
Kill all kikes and kike enablers.
>>538850925The Catholic Church dogmatically teaches that those who observe circumcision are alien to the Christian faith and face eternal damnation (pic related).>>538851169>Paul himself was circumcised and said if you know the law you should follow the lawFalse. Paul taught the exact opposite.>"Behold, I Paul tell you, that if you be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man circumcising himself, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. You are made void of Christ, you who are justified in the law: you are fallen from grace."Galatians 5:2-4>that violates mosaic lawsThe Mosaic Laws were abrogated by Christ. The ceremonies of the Old Law pointed to Christ. To observe them after the promulgation of the Gospel is to deny indeed that Christ has come and fulfilled them, as St. Thomas Aquinas has pointed out:>“...the ceremonies of the Old Law foreshadowed Christ as having yet to be born and to suffer: whereas our sacraments signify Him as already born and having suffered. Consequently, just as it would be a mortal sin now for anyone, in making a profession of faith, to say that Christ is yet to be born, which the fathers of old said devoutly and truthfully; so too it would be a mortal sin now to observe those ceremonies which the fathers of old fulfilled with devotion and fidelity. Such is the teaching Augustine (Contra Faust. Xix, 16)...”Summa Theologica, Pt. I-II, Q. 103, A. 4
>>538852072>>538852352Go into his comments section and ask him what he thinks of Jews sucking baby penis. His guy Maimonides was a huge fan of metzitzah b’peh.
>>538851310>>538852531
>>538852494>In 2012, the issue made international headlines after health authorities in New York documented a series of confirmed neonatal herpes cases linked to ritual circumcisions involving direct oral suction. In Israel, Schneider Children’s Medical Center also publicized similar cases, including two infants hospitalized in 2016 after contracting herpes in the circumcision area.They investigated the cases and traced them back to the baby dick sucking mohels who put their herpes ridden mouths on the babies’ dicks.Now get in the oven kike
>>538851864>>538852494>nasty yenta cooped up in some stinky orthodox rent controlled apartment in Toronto thinks she has the right or ability to speak to menYou are a shanda fur di goyim, nasty woman be gone. Go slap your husband around
>>538852538>His guy Maimonides was a huge fan of metzitzah b’peh.Rambam was a literal DOCTOR. Why would a doctor advocate for a harmful practice?
>>538852617Why would the only peaceful democracy in the Middle East attack its neighbors and bulldoze innocent people's villages?
>>538852617We need to kill all kikes asap because they aren't evolving past this game. Hitler learned the hard way.
>>538852411Oohh the ragebaiting has backfired it would seem.I don't need nor want to wish AIDs on your people; a quarter of them already have it. Low IQ retort btw, to bring up royalty as an argument for circumcision. I am beginning to think you can't process nor produce more than 1 line of text at a time; thus why you can't follow my line of thinking. This unproductive back and forth we have been having explains a lot about the state of your nation lol.
>>538850239Fuck man I am a canadian butch and got my huge clit excised in Dubai for religious reasons. I didn’t like it so I transitioned to a man and got this huge nigger penis transplant. Now I want to become a jew and strongly consider circumcision my new penis. What do you advise?
>>538850239Don't say that around Muslims. They will get angry
>>538852964I advise you talk to a rabbi.
>>538851745Lol no you are not. YWNBAW
>>538852688>Low IQI don't care about your (((psychological))) metric. If you mean low intelligence, I don't care either. It doesn't take much to see through your pilpul. Most critters have just enough brain to tan their own hides
>>538852985Latin America has a much higher rate of rape and sexual lust than anywhere in Africa.
Bodily autonomy laws apply to both exes equally, therefore the act of brit milah (ritual male genital mutilation) is already illegal, just not enforced. Those who maintain this dynamic are complicit in crimes against humanity and should be killed.
>>538852985>>538853029Also, India has a much higher rate of rape than Bangladesh or Pakistan.
>>538853196Female genitalia is physically and spiritually different from male genitalia. Also, women don't lust after men the way men lust after women.
>>538853230Yea, they really should do something about it.
>>538853025Aaaand we have come full circle. Nice word, "Pulpile", yet it is once more an unrelated deflection and an inadequate usage case. You're living proof that survival and intelligence aren't nearly as correlated as you'd like to believe. You have lost the privilege of my responses lol. Perhaps your absolute monarch should invest a bit more in education. I am sure you, in particular, could benefit from it.
>>538853396What do you believe pilpul is? Because you're using the term incorrectly.
>>538853250They all have to die. They'll never stop raping kids.
>>538853396>You have lost the privilege of my responseThank goodness. You didn't seem to understand the meaning of fuck off
>>538853418Misstyped it lol. Textual study of the talmud. Didnt mention it at any point and have never opened the book; read earlier messages for context, or don't.
>>538853418lol, lemme use pilpul inside your pilpul, let's define some bullshit.fuck you dork
>in Defiance of Circumcision totally mistranslated and misunderstoodwhat was said - (You) must control yourself. Control your lust.>materialistic retardscut dick off, cut newborn's dick off>We God's creation>God is perfectCUT DICK OFF!
>>538850239you're fucking retarded and I hope you die, schlomo
>>538853589No.
Since there's a lot of anons here experiencing a nice, fresh wave of righteous hatred of kikes because of this filthy toronto orthodox swamp creature inhabiting the thread, please have a copy of St. Chrysostom's Adversus Judaeos for your consideration.https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/chrysostom_adversus_judaeos_01_homily1.htm"When there was need to observe the Law, they trampled it under foot. Now that the Law has ceased to bind, they obstinately strive to observe it."
>>538853890Why do Christian countries have higher rape rates than Muslim ones?
>>538853965Because you're making bullshit up. Muslims in muslim countries don't rape, that's call tuesday.You'll keep deploying pilpul to get away the farce dicksucking you started the tread with.You morons are going to build a 3rd temple and the Sadducee 2nd temple priests are going to pop out and say 'your traditions of the elders were fake and gay when we first saw them 2000 years ago and they still are, thanks for the meat."
>>538853965It's weird, I hear a coin purse jingling, but there's no reply in this thread. This must be some kind of hebrew magic.
>>538853965Unironically because in order for a muslim girl to have been considered rape, she requires 3 witnesses in all countries and is required to be honor killed afterwards in half
>>538850771>ban on porn all togetherthat's anti-semitic
>>538854318Coin purse?
>>538853965Why did the Rabbinic Jews start using a different genealogical timeline (the one found in the masoretic text) than the one found in the Greek version of the Hebrew scriptures?The Israelites, 2nd Temple Jews, & Christians all used that same genealogy and then for some unknown reason around ~200 AD you chopped up the timeline and claimed shem = melchizedek? Why?
>>538850239Circumcision is mutilation, it's barbaric and an insult to the human body because you don't even do it the way it was requested by god.Through God's words in Deuteronomy and Jesus's teachings you don't need to do it physically, it's a spiritual thing requiring you to be good people to other people.And that's why you still do it physically and insist on it, because you can't be good people, so you kikes would rather lie to yourselves that you are people of god through useless mutilation, while being the worst examples of parasites in modern society.Total kike death is needed above all else.
Teach your Kids not to steal and you have circumsized them in their acting. I wonder whats your heart longing for to choose an Interpretation where something has to be cut off
>>538854826When did Jesus ever preach against brit milah?
>>538855031More pilpul misdirection - Jesus fulfilled the original covenant rending all those traditions unnecessary. keep going, this thread is very informative for the uninitiated.
>>538855272I'm not doing pilpul.
>>538850239not to mention the fact that saliva has antimicrobial properties
>>538856566Correct. When you cut your finger, your first instinct is to place the wound in your mouth.
>>538850748YHWH doesn't exist. That's enough
>>538856613HaShem is the only thing that exists.
>>538853965Because they get reported.In mudshitholes the raped can only shut up about about it because they have no way of winning the case and in a lot of cases they end up getting stoned.
>>538857467How do you know Muslims rape at high rates?
>>538850239I dont care if people do it for religious reasons, go ahead. I just wish that people had a say on if it happened to them, and it wasn't forced upon them as newborns
>>538856642he doesn't exist either now go fuck off
>>538850239> "IN DEFENCE OF MUH HECKING JEWISH BULLSHIT"STFU CHRISTIANS AND OTHER JEW WORSHIPPERS!Do you fucking degenerates even realize how much better the board would be without christians?You make everything feel so fucking lethargic,Your words carry no other weight by dead weight of moral hypocrisy justified by jewish word salads.
>>538857655For one, rape in the west is a spectrum(kek), anything can be rape depending on the mood of the slut. In muslim countries rape is rape as you know it, non-consensual intercourse that ends in climax.And it is a statistical truth that rapes in muslim nations go unreported in excess of 80%.
>>538857961How would the universe exist without G-d?
>>538858418now I see where the christcucks get it thanks little nigger
>>538850239Ban it!!!!
>>538858500There is zero logical or moral reason to ban circumcision or MBP.
>>538857821>I dont care if people do it for religious reasons, go aheadWhat if the "religious reason" REQUIRES the blood of infants to be shed as non-negotiable doctrine? That is literally the only existing "religious reason" for doing it btw. In jewish brit milah ritual to a 8 day old baby. Hyperspecific.
>>538858621there is zero logical reason for why infants need to get circumcised while adults can just give a drop of blood from a finger
>>538859357apart the physical pleasure jews feel when torturing infants
>>538850239GOD Creates MAN with foreskin.GOD recants and asks MAN to cut his own foreskin. Not even commands said foreskin to stop growing. NO ! MAN - a creature that couldn't abide by a simple rule and has fallen out of his own freewill anf hence CAM NOT BE TRUSTED- has to cut it !!!Hmmm....... You know what? FUCK YOU OP! And your mother ! With a full foreskin no less!
>>538860943Or until judaism is dead!Sword cuts both ways , ya' know!
Judaism is a anti-foreskin cult above all else. They HATE the intact man ontologically. Coexistence with these baby mutilators is not possible.