>reading all chats in internets EU-wide lawwheres the outrage? And also coming to USA and UK lol
why is this allowed
>>538859099>tf>tpkek
>>538859099Europeans are spineless. They don't even care something was pushed through, even when european parliament voted against it.
>>538859099i didnt vote for this wtf
this will pass in the whoel world
>>538859099>having chatswhere do you think you are?
>>538859429There really is a simultaneous push
>>538859475all messages all traffic scanned by "algorithms"
use https://www.ricochetrefresh.net/or https://jami.net/
That's not what it says though. In russia you have no privacy or freedom of speech. You are just bitter and envious at the west.
>>538859099You have same so what's the problem ?
>>538859312Americans are way worsewe are suppose to be the "freedoms" peoplecant even protect our kids>hurr durr my flock camerasniggerour country is literally merging its military wifh israelswhat the fuck is wrong with you moronsits fucking disgusting
>>538859777neetand kool digitsyour hardware is still comp'd
>>538859312This pretty much. Noone cares except a few groups of people and most of the useful idiots will happily fuck themselves over just so they can feel good about fighting the people the media identified as their enemy.
>>538860178learn to compute
>>538859099Arrest them.
This is what the AI Data Centers are for. It takes a lot of computing power to snoop through every single thing you type, goy, but it'll insure you're on your BEST BEHAVIOR. What do you mean your town just had the electricity cut off to divert it to AI Data Centers and now all your talking will be done IRL?
>>538860389torrent max with encryption enabled and over VPNmake them collect the data
>>538859219Because Europeans refuse to start killing politicians They have no legal or sentimental limit on their power over you and will continue maximising it and evolutionarily genociding you until they learn there are consequences.
>>538859429Yes, but in the third world nobody will enforce shit. First world? Well, they will go to jail.and lose so much izzat they will become homeless
>>538859099Wait until you learn the passed the digital euro the same day
>>538859777Wow I can't wait to chat with that one fatass using this
To what extent does end to end encrypted messaging counter this?
>>538860178hardware comps are never consistent. They wont do shit, plus you can just buy chinkshit off aliexpress
>>538862245If they just read on device messages then basically none
>>538862350Im sorry im ignorant about this sort of thingIs that solvable through new software defenses or does the hardware make it so youre fucked in all scenarios?
>>538862464a signal isn’t going to be truly encrypted because it flies through the air which is automatically detected by every government nigger on the planet
>>538862724Yeah but do they have the ability to intercept, decrypt, and monitor at scale? I doubt it(Not counting compromised encryptions as encrypted. Things can still be difficult to decrypt, if not impossible)
>>538862464You basically will have to buy a device that doesn't have their trash on it. It is easily avoidable but most normies probably wont avoid it. this will all likely go through on the software level so there will be some jew-ware always running and always scanning your messages/files
>>538862871They will compromise the encryption itself through some law that say manufacturers and Service providers have to let them which they've already tried a few times now. They will "beat" encryption by just forcing the deprives to have to legally give them the keys as well, you cnan probably google and search on youtube "Europe wants to compromise encryption" or something there was a big stink about it not too long ago, I actually think india was wanting to do something similar. Between this and client side scanning they will have normies in their pocketStill avoidable if you just put a small bit of effort in though. The difficulty will be getting the people you talk to to put in the effort though
>>538862464>tech jeet finally discovers software runs on hardware
>>538859806jeu slaves have all their messages wachted by the big nose brother>that's now what it says!no such shit in Russia, an order of magnitude less prosecution "for an internet post">hurr-durr you Russhons have no privacy or freedom os speech!there's no more pathetic shabbosgoyim than the jeu-citizens
>>538863197That all sucks but normies really give everything away for free willingly and dont have thoughts or maybe even souls so I wasn't worried about them too much. Id prefer to live in a world where autists and dissidents etc at least have hope of dodging them.>IndiaThats the kind of thing they will do here and it will be so inept as to be easily undermined. EU struck me as more of a potential threat.
>>538863220Its a completely legitimate question. Fucking retard.
>>538863046Examples of said devices that "don't have their trash on it" that aren't just spyware bloated android forks anyways?
The so-called Chat Control 1.0 legislation failed to be extended earlier this year, so they renewed it through this trickery. This only means that all unencrypted chats will continue to be logged like the case has been for what, last ten years or so.How the EU parliament handled this vote was pure scumfuckery though. No doubt they'll use the same kinds of methods when Chat Control 2.0 returns to the table.
>>538863197>>538863046I wanna add one last detail for any anons who give a shit but this is why (((samshit))) has recently pivoted to locking down all their bootloaders and likely you will start to see other manufacturers follow. I think this is also a reason google is trying to slow boil us out of being able to install f-droid apps and other 3rd party apps. What you might consider doing if you care right now, is pick up a phone that can be unlocked and is compatible with lineage OS or graphne or something de-googled. You wanna at least have one now that you can install another OS on just in case, keep it as a backup phone or something if you dont wanna use it but there is a chance you see the market on these things spike in the next few years>>538863408You should be worried about normies cause they will compromise you by proxy like they already do now anon
>>538863197They can also make it illegal to send and receive encrypted signals if they are not if a certain type or without licenseThey can make it so that your device must be accessible by them remotely and if you are found with a non compliant device that is a crimeOf course nothing is perfect but once the herd believes in something they will support the masters when they say it is for that thing that they actThe it's ok if you have a small effort is just the boiling frogs lament, it successively reduces the acting group through minimization and casting off the less skilled or motivated
>>538859099Yes and Russians made it possible with their war prone government which sacrifices Russians to increase their leaders' wealth.
>>538863568From what I've seen they usually don't do that, and even when they do enforcement is impossible. Like it's illegal to operate a ham radio without a loiscense and illegal to use a multitude of frequencies but you go and do it and no one is gonna do shit. Instead they like to go after manufacturers and force them to make it as hard as possible for the user to get out of the goytrap. For ham it would be making radios that broadcast on all freq really hard to find and for phones it will be making it borderline impossible to actually control the software on them. If you can manage to subvert them you win though and they will 99/100 chance not do shit.
Russians have a strong intent to take land in Europe by force.That means less freedoms every day for every person.Russians are a highly advanced cyber threat.
>>538859099dear ru bro u already got that... but for all the others get rid of all google products, get swiss email provider, get ses, tg with crytion, linux, GrapheneOS.. and so on just avoid all big tech products especially when they are for free
>>538859099Global communism right around the corner.
>>538863408I suppose I mean by 'not worried' I mean my perspective isn't changed. Normies are happily compromised now and already compromised everything. In the West they pay to put cameras linked to the police on their homes. Here theres less trust for authority but with the right sales pitch theyd do it too, but luckily they cant afford it. Any hopeful dissident or criminal has to navigate around them regardlessThanks for the helpful answers by the way
>>538859099whites and kikes just can't MIND THEIR FUCKING BUSINESS AND LEAVE OTHERS THE FUCK ALONE!
>>538863509Thew haven't implemented it yet so technically everything unless I'm mistaken. More importantly head to lineage OS or graphene OS and look for any of those phones and pick one up. Worst case is they pass all this shit and you can just learn how to install a free OS on those already supported devices when shit hits the fan. The problem will be new devices will start shipping locked down and come pre-installed with the jew ware
>>538863670ah yes, it's le Putler sharted on your porchjeu slaves, as per their customs, totally gulping all the "external enemy" prypyhynda
Somewhat related, this Finnish podcast episode from yesteryear, discussing EU's CSAM legislation aims and issues related to it (i.e. Chat Control 2.0) appears to be region blocked within EU since a few days ago. It can be accessed from outside EU using VPN or so. Coincidence?https://youtu.be/dGaQCcwnwb0
>>538859219it's to protect children from Pedos. that's their argument
>>538859219>>538864339>it's to protect children from Pedos. that's their argumentAnd most people out there are useful idiots who get really emotional about supporting this after hearing that argument
>>538864339Just like letting them scan bank accounts against terrorism which now is used for every shit possible>We will only use this against global terrorism, pinky promiseWhat they scan for nowadays>Tax evasion>Welfare fraudAnd so on, everything you can and can't think about is a reason for them to look through your bank account
>>538860389It explains why suddenly the lights are basically nonexistent during night on my street They are diverting all the power towards the data centres Interesting
>>538864435>>538864485This is going to sound like rage bait or veiled hate, but Im being sincere:Is it uncommon to meet uncucked Euros where you are in real life? All the government stuff seems so gay but I dont know what average Euro is like really. Does everyone support shit like this?I assume most women do but what about men?
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>>538859312What are they supposed to do about it? Let's be honest with ourselves. What could you do, democratically-speaking, about this shit?The answer is nothing. The only answer is armed resistance.
>>538859099>>538859429Start making plans for becoming a cyber dissident
Well, If your countrymen use foreign social media plarforms controlled by foreign agents, then you will be undemined.No amount of intellegence services can fix the social media subversion you let in.The real answer isn't chat control, but national internet clusters and local social media.Worldwide social media cannot survive, the 4 billion third worlders and media billionaires using bots has ruined it forever to be used as propaganda.
>>538859219The EU attempted to pass chat control 7 times. It failed each time. So they changed the rules : Unless TWO THIRDS of the EU parliament votes AGAINST it, the law is passed :)Only 63% voted against this, 37% voted for it, therefor it passed, with a 1/3rd majority.... Is famous European democracy, we are all about democracy here.Hell even kim jong un watches european politics and is like>bro can you do that?
>>538859099>europeans>backdoorwhy are euroaches so vile and degenerate? is it because they're literal creatures of the demiurge?
>>538864631I haven't met anyone based in real life, ever. This doesn't mean they don't exist though. I also hide my powerlevel in real life so nobody knows the full extent of my opinions and only 3 or 4 people even know I don't like niggers. So it could just be a case of everyone around me hiding their dislike the same way.On the other hand though, the place I work at has two people (had a third one too but she retired) who are very vocal about their media narrative-driven opinions. I don't need to read the daily news because I have to hear these people repeat that shit anyway. Mass immigration good, anti-immigration party evil, every Russian civilian must suffer, what did Trump say/do today (actually 1-3 days ago but Finnish news are slow at reporting anything), etc etc
>>538864631This is pretty simple.The cucks are in the bigger cities, the based and trad folks are in the countryside. Where i live the landlords are pretty much the greatest racists you can think of and they don't let niggers and shitskins rent their flats or houses, so it stays pretty white and based.They won't ever be open about this though, it's like an unwritten law.That's the one line to draw.The other is age. Something like Morpheus said to Neo in Matrix>We don't take people over a certain age out of the Matrix, they can't handle itIt's just like that with Boomers, they can't or won't grasp the fact that the world they grow up in doesn't exist anymore and they still believe the TV, because 20-30 years ago the TV wasn't that cucked like nowadays.
>>538859219Because literally every government on Earth wants it, including all major parties in "democratic" countries. They will pass this shit, and digital ID (including probably at the device level) because they want to control what the plebs see and do, or at least know so they can use it against them. Our rulers are not our friends. They want to keep their own wealth and power at all costs and don't care if you die in a ditch let alone have "freedom".
>>538859099Fix the loophole then instead of boasting about it.
>>538859099>wheres the outrage?Outrage about what? They didn't touch end-to-end encryption and google is reading your mails already anyways.
How do you protest against it? Should I pack my shit up and travel to brussels so I can spend my only free time on screaming and shouting into the void (only to get fined)? Or maybe write a brave poem on twatter?EU is ran by same party for more time than Putin rules in Russia, let that sink in.
>>538865175>I haven't met anyone based in real life, ever. Thats really quite bad. Im not a believer in critiquing other cultures piecemeal but that lack of communication and honesty youre describing sounds like a dangerously negative trait. Hope it improves in some way.>>538865280That sounds pretty normal dynamics for the west.
>>538865541Their goal is the digital AI prison.>CBDCs>Mandatory Digital ID everywhere to prove your human status vs AI>Social credit>Carbon creditWe all see it's a world wide coordinated push to get the tech in place for the time when AI took most of the jobs and people start revolting.
>>538865847We have to face the fact that there's only one solution because they don't give a fuck about our complaints at allJust look at that Witch von der Leyen>Woopsie, deleted my SMS regarding the pandemic, i'm so sorry, lol
>>538865908I dont think their plan is very good. It seems they believed in Sam Altman types in terms of AI capabilities and cost. If their plan actually hinges on AI, im actually quite hopeful.Right now AI is 'taking jobs' but its subsidized and really awful at almost every non-coding job
>>538859099>waiting for the football cup to fuck everyone in the boipussyI hate goylems so fucking MUCHCLAP AT THE MILLIONAIRE NIGGERS CHASING THE LITTLE BALL, YEAH! CLAPPITY CLAP CLAP!
>>538865984people dont give a fuck because Murica and Israel took over all EU elites. we cant nuke USA or Israel so there is no fucking point to fight those demons at all.
>>538859099Its an extension to the exception rule that big social media companies got from EU. So its not shit getting worse, its the old shit lingering for far longer.
>>538865280>It's just like that with Boomers, they can't or won't grasp the fact that the world they grow up in doesn't exist anymore and they still believe the TVThis is true. Anyone who's ever tried to redpill someone above 60 will know. It is extremely difficult and only gets worse with age. It took me 10 years for my mother but she finally got it, my boomer grandfather is totally mind fucked by TV though. Even just my 29+ year old peers are starting to show signs of this kind of behavior. They're starting to not want to adapt and are starting to sound like retarded boomers, it's blackpilling you have to make an effort to always adapt and be aware o this mental trap or you'll become them
>>538866228Im still dealing with the realization that most people stop trying to learn anything once they get their fake degrees around age 21
>>538859099don't care, i just want ww3 to begin already
>>538866316Thats like the start of death imo, I've watched it with people who haven't actually learned anything in a decade and when you start trying to teach them something, it's been so long they forgot that learning is difficult and they just rage quit it on the spot. It's really depressing
>>538864631>talk to with small shop owner>rants about the economic laws and CBDCs etc>talk with neighbour>not sure who's more racist>family all fairly redpilled>police are more than happy for people to be armedMostly because not in a big city, the big ones are big cucked. There has been some stupid shit proposed like immigrants being thrown into your flat if you're behind on payments.
>>538859099The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no draft, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all. The Great Reset is inevitable.
>>538868116Copy and paste faggot. No one wants to hear defeatist bullshit. Show Israeli flag
