>First, given Iran’s astonishing capability to launch missiles and drones, once U.S. forces begin a ground invasion of Iran, Iran would destroy all oil refineries and desalination plants in hostile Middle Eastern countries.This would instantly turn the entire Middle East into a water-scarce, arid hell. It would result in hundreds of millions of war refugees who would need to be evacuated. This would devastate any country that took in these refugees.Second, Iran has a population of 90 million, and in the event of all-out war, it could mobilize at least 10 million people to fight. For U.S. forces to occupy all of Iran, they would need to conscript at least 8 million people.Moreover, the entire country is one damn mountain range. The terrain is 10 times worse than Afghanistan’s. All the suffering U.S. forces endured in Afghanistan would be amplified 100-fold in Iran.Add to that the fact that Iran’s industrial manufacturing capacity is second only to Russia’s, and this is bound to become a meat grinder even more horrific than the war in Ukraine. Even if the U.S. manages to defeat Iran, it will suffer at least a million casualties.A war with Iran would be a nightmare, and the resulting butterfly effect would be enough to destroy the global economy.>Americans, don’t do this.
>Moreover, the entire country is one damn mountain range. The terrain is 10 times worse than Afghanistan’s. All the suffering U.S. forces endured in Afghanistan would be amplified 100-fold in Iran.They should have told that to the Arabs who made them Islamic to begin with
god please let this happen it would be so funny
Just nuke it then.>inb4 "other countries will start using their nukes!"good, I wish a nigga would
>>538859457It's the size of western Europe. How many nukes would be needed?
>>538859244americans are going to do itthey are this fucking retardedwere going to see millions of americans die in a war and die from starvation in our lifetimes and its going to be gloriousyes it will be hard on everyone but nobody will be as fucked and fall as deep as the US
>>538859524The US has about 1500 active warheads on standby and a lot more mothballed in storage, idk how many you'd need but I think we have enough to do the job.
>>538859457Nukes are fake and gay anon
>>538859457The mountains make the country like a bowl. Do you think that would help contain fallout? All those civilians though…
>>538859537>americans are going to do itI don't think they can. For starters where would they even stage from and how would they prevent Iran from striking the staging grounds?
>>538859244Trump already won the wat you dumb trannie. He is merely attacking Iran again so they know he is serious about giving i to all their demands.
>>538859583And then? Rule the world? Fucking brilliant plan. Let's do it
>>538859244Yeah but think of how mad the libs will be
>>538859244>10 times worse than Afghanistan The invasion was relatively easy, and took very little time or blood. Are you saying Iran would be a pushover but the insurgency would be worse? Do you think Russia could take Kiev in 2 weeks if they ever invaded?
Since the US has become a net export of oil, why isn’t picrel the better warplan? What do they need from them? Inverted goat anusses (boneless)? Also who the fuck cares about the middle east as long as they gape their hormussy?
>>538859584You're a retard.>>538859603>All those civilians thoughI don't have that one pic of grease being poured down the drain but you know the one.
>>538859453Take some sick POV warcam videos while you are there, moron
>>538859650What other Jewish fairy tales do you believe in?
>>538859537>Americans dying of starvation You must be retarded. Do you have any idea where your food comes from?
>>538859634This lel, as if the Soviet partisans weren't dangerous in the plains of ukraine, as if the austrians were such a great insurgency to nazi plans in their mountains....biome is secondary
>>538859693and where does your diesel come from?
>>538859537Not even americans can be this retarded. I wager candians go first, as missionaries
>>538859750See>>538859643
>>538859690You do not believe that nukes are fake.
>>538859693>>538859750Your are both stupid. Mom gets both from the next stations. Just google one. US is also net exporter of food, am i right? And Driving climate change car is VERBOTEN anyway soon in Germany
>>538859855If only the camera would have been shaking just a little, I'd believe it
>>538859855I absolutely do. Japan was firebombed. Nukes are just Jewish fear porn.
>>538859951Babbies first red pill.
>>538859951>Japan was firebombedIt was, repeatedly! It was also nuked, twice.You will not convince me that you don't believe that nukes are real, that's CIA wellpoisining garbage like flatearth or "space is fake" and only a complete retard would actually entertain it longer than enough time to laugh it off. Retard.
>>538859803you don't have the crude oil for diesel, you have almost only light oil for gasoline >>538859893deine mutter
>>538860026Space is fake. So are dinosaurs. I have no idea whether the earth is flat or round. Nukes are fake. Everything they tell you is a lie to control your beliefs.
>>538860026>Nuked on a Monday>Street cars were running again on Thursday People had to get to work, anon. How could they do that without public transport? Think.
>>538860060Wrong again, ahmed.eia.com
>>538859689im too old so i'll have to stay home and keep the zoomettes companyif i actually got drafted, i would just surrender as soon as I got there
>>538859951Explain pre-atomic steel, you fucking moron.
>>538859396The original Arab Muslims were a force of nature. Whichever front they went on they dominated. Also the Persians didn't have drones or missiles back then.
>>538860060Deine MutterDeine Mutter so fettWenn deine Mutter deine unterhosen in tel aviv bügeln würde, wär sie der allererste effektive iron dome Aber keine ahnung warum sie sich bei jedem Alarm bückt
>>538860605Yeah, and so were the Turks, and the Mongols, and the Turko-Mongols, and the Russians and whoever else conquered that shithole am I right? America is the new force of nature, whatever weapons they have, the US has something better
>>538860472Didn’t your grandparents already surrender for you in the 60s?
Orange retard speedrunning America's decline into a total joke. Hail Israel, hail MIGA.
>>538859650>not my problemit is when you are bombing them>>538859457you know, the rabbis are planning to completely annihilate US and use shit like mutts being so full of themselves and so ignorant of other countries and geography and bloodthirsty modern day mongols with technology going around wreaking havoc and destroying countries (not to mention they are creating more refugees by doing so) as pretextNot to mention that the same rabbis who predicted the iran war starting on feb 28 down to the exact day, are saying per Talmud that Iran vs US AKA Persia vs Rome will be the FINAL WAR that will end with a total nuclear war that will kill 2/3 of the entire world's population in less than an hour. (And it's not gonna be fucking nigeria thats getting nuked it's gonna be western cities mind you)it is good for our cause to have moral superiority or actually moral purity for the lack of a better term. We need to be impossible to criticize. So stop saying stupid shit like that
>>538860700The Americans are a force of nature when toilets are concerned. But as far as military might goes, it seems like they are two pump chumps that promise a great night but are spent within 5 minutes. I really hope that they do invade. It would be great for us.
>>538860904>I really hope that they do invade. It would be great for us.Jokes on you, the indians they‘ll send won’t bring the toilets you need
>>538860904American strategists always hold back in their military endeavors, trying to be civilized and bureaucratic, if they followed the footsteps of real conquerors they'd be taking concubines, putting heads on spikes, burning down their palaces....Afghanistan showed that this is probably the way you do it, and not with rainbow flags, hearts and minds and the sort. They say the Americans throw puppies off cliffs, but if the policy was to go Manowar on them they'd be hunted down like the Indians
>>538859244
>>538859244>First, given Iran’s astonishing capability to launch missiles and dronesThey don't have the same capabilities any more, and the US has been burning their petrochemical chemical factories that are needed for the materials to produce more, and their missile/drone production facilities, plus their STORES of the munitions.>Iran would destroy all oil refineries and desalination plants in hostile Middle Eastern countriesAnd the irannies would in turn have the corespondent facilities burnred in Iran, making it more difficult for their military/security forces to carry on their war effort.>Second, Iran has a population of 90 millionAnd a good% of them are hostile to the regime. They can be armed and turned against it.> and in the event of all-out war, it could mobilize at least 10 million people to fight.fight without water, food, weapons, ect? Doesn't amount to much. They will be disgruntled, as well, and can be used as revolutionaries, against the regime.>Moreover, the entire country is one damn mountain range.And that works against the Irannies as well, in terms of their OWN logistics, which can be spotted, tracked/canalized, and targeted more easily because of this.>Iran’s industrial manufacturing capacityNo, it isn't. Not when the US has been and will be targeting their defense industrial base facilites. This just shows you have no idea what is happening in the conflict so far, in terms of what is being targeted in Iran, which dis-credits you completely, shut the fuck up, retard.>A war with Iran would be a nightmarePotentially, but not for the reasons you listed. Again, shut the fuck up, and never make a thread, your retarded brown/yellow clown.
>>538859244You sound desperate faggot. The Iranians are toast.
>>538859584Tell that to Toropets.
>>538860605No, they weren't. They were opportunists, vultures picking the carcass of a fallen Byzantium, and conquering lands who have historically been the whipping boy of every empire that looked at them funny. The second they come against lands that Rome had trouble with, they get stomped militarily because they don't just exponentially gimp their population's IQ with normalized inbreeding, they ensure only hylic cattle prosper.
>>538860715more of a retreat, really
>>538860026>well poisoningIt’s because nuclear munitions have already been used (Toropets etc, probably that mountain base in Syria that became radioactive suddenly after it was completely destroyed by a single bomb, Tartus)Thus the spew bullshit to keep it under wraps.They never explain the firecracker report from miles away and the 4 mile radius of all windows blown out (same as Hiroshima) or the 1.5 miles of total devastation (same as Hiroshima and Nagasaki) or the 139 buildings completely wiped from the earth even tho only 4 craters are visible with a central 110 meter (football field) crater. Also the turning pitch black night into a new dawn of morning with no viginetting or the videographers 2.5 miles away almost being knocked down. /k/ gets real mad
>>538859634Don't be ridiculousThe war is Russia vs. EuropeIf Ukraine truly did face them alone, Russia would have taken Kiev quickly
>>538859244Yep, this is the reason we dont invade. Their geography would be a nightmare to fight in. Most kf our heavy weapons and armor are useless and cant move through like we're use to. We'd overly rely on air support, which we wont have due to the way you can hide AA weapons into he mountains. Each peak would have AA guns hiding behind it, the moment the bird comes into view, ots gone.
>>538861807Tactical retreat out of the house and senate? Good tactic
>>538859584Stop saying this shit, you make all conspiracy people look stupud.
>>538859951Ill bite because im bored. What part of nukes dont make sense to you?
>>538862302>ach peak would have AA guns hiding behind it, the moment the bird comes into view, ots gone.So if you want to defeat Iran, the only option is a slow, methodical advance in the style of World War I.Just like Russia is doing on the battlefield in Ukraine.Dropping bombs on the Iranian capital, Tehran, from time to time, and carrying out endless FPV drone attacks.Constantly digging trenches, then advancing inch by inch.For every kilometer gained, dozens or even hundreds of people die.One year, two years, three years, four years, five years would pass.Both sides would suffer millions of casualties, yet neither would be willing to surrender and end this long and senseless war.The death toll from this war would exceed the combined total of U.S. military casualties in World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War.And in the end, the United States would likely still come away with nothing.
This thread is so fucking bullshit. Made by little bullshiter. Iran is in tatters. Under Seige. It sooner runs out of stuff the longer the situation develops. It's already running out of stuff.You meant guns. It pops a few off hitting nothing much. Meanwhile it keeps getting degraded. There is some stagnation on the movement of cargo. More has rerouted.It is otherwise contained. Where is its army going. The minute it moves army somewhere else in columns or boats they get shot.Why invade until they're degraded even more. By that time they've imploded. Seige can last until there's an opening or until surrender.A ground offensive at some point is logical if it deprives Iran of a coastline. But why rush it. You can bomb them all day long before then. What are they going to do? Sit there getting bombed.
>>538862721>slow gainIt would be so slow, decades probably, that its just not worth it. If they wanted to do something about Iran, they should've done it decades ago. Its too late now>>538862799Its a fortress and starving them out is the only way. Except they have a really big ally, china
>>538859244>astonishingNot really. We're going to have to seriously consider degrading Iranian allied satellite capabilities among other options to stop them from striking their neighbor's in retaliation. Their basically acting like a bunch of niggers with a major international shipping lane needs to stop and if we need to delete their infrastructure until they take the fucking hint so be it.
>>538859244>Second, Iran has a population of 90 million, and in the event of all-out war, it could mobilize at least 10 million people to fight. For U.S. forces to occupy all of Iran, they would need to conscript at least 8 million people.The US would just support one of the many dissident movements, set up a new government, and then rule through them.
>>538859244The war was retarded from the start but I do enjoy Americans being humiliated on daily basis by sand animals.
>>538859244Ok.
>>538863043Big ally feeding all of them. They have more population than food or water. It is what is getting more and more affected as any situation develops. Their oil is also running out. Their capital.Any attackers can kick it up a notch at any time. Hit dams. Refineries. Knock out bridges and railroads. Or government and what not. Any ability to attack degradesSeige is arbitrary term. It is forcing a favoured hand. Seige can last days months years. In the meantime Iran can't do anything else. Not like they wanted to either. They think they're in control of something they clearly aren't.Currently it is the concept, seige. Iran has nothing else. It isn't going anywhere militarily except getting more and more degraded the longer a seige is in affect.Sure it fires a few arrows from its beseiged walls. Any internal ability food water making arrows degrades. For the most part in any assumption those walls degrade quicker. Until perhaps there are favourable terms or surrender or invasion.
>>538859244Where would you even start building up troops? It's not like they're cucked Saddam who just let half a million American soldiers position themselves near the Iraqi border while waiting like a good goy. As soon as sharts are going to bring the infantry, let's say to the UAE, then Iran will just start blasting sunni nigger cities into oblivion. That's why a ground invasion is impossible as long as they can launch missiles
>>538859584>Be nuclear engineer for 15 years now>work in Bruce peninsula overseeing 70% of the power supply for Ontario>my job is made up and I have been pretending for more than half my life that physics is real>still cant fool this smart anon
>>538859396it was easier to conquer 500 years ago because you just rode your horse into town, killed everyone and then sent a horse after the Boulos Al-Revere who is riding to the next town to send warning.
>>538863496>Hit dams. Refineries. Knock out bridges and railroads. Or government and what not. Any ability to attack degradesAttack civilian infrastructure and then Iran starts tearing down skyscrapers in Dubai, refineries in Doha and water plants in Kuwait. Why do you retards believe only the US is capable of escalation dominance? Do you think they stopped the war back in April out of good will? The US never does, just ask Syria, Libya and Vietnam.
>>538863989The only reason it is not as easy is because we pretend to care for their feelings, jews want us on our knees begging and asking for forgiveness
>>538859693have fun eating your söybeans muttbecause thats all that you produce
Do you think Trump or Netanyahu give a shit about Americans dying?
>>538864586we make a lot of corn for humans, livestock, and ethanolabout 400K Tons
>>538864586>>538866434fixed bad stat. the USA mogs.https://www.fas.usda.gov/data/production/0440000
>>538859457Why don't we just nuke America and jews and the rest of the world lives side by side with lesser wars and intensity? Pretty sure the majority of the world would agree with meIt's not Iran being the issue, it's you
>>538859537We grow tons of food and make our own fertilizer and oil , if theirs mass starvation it will be catastrophic for Asia, Africa middle east and Europe. Just annoying for USA.We won't large scale ground invade though.
>>538860060Cali, Alaska, and the golf has some, but we get it from Canada, mexico,vene, and Colombia. Not the hormussy
>>538859244usa will be fucked in iranthey dont have land army, during ww2 they were white, owned their women, land and houses loltoday working class is mutted, does not own their women and cant buy househowever you cant underestimate usa, a lof ot things can be done for money, assets and positions among elitethere is also an option that usa will buy turkey and egypt and draft their population for war like they have done with ukraineboth turkey and egypt have a lot of poor goys, trade deficits and huge debts
>>538859244Iran don't get threatenedIran just gets cold
>>538859244It's like a giant rocky fist.
>>538864586>maybe lying will work in an age where everyone has internet accessYou zuttmutts are actually retarded
Pointless thread. America no longer has the capability to fight the kind of ground war that would be needed to destroy the Iranian state, they're a spent force, a paper tiger if you will
