Is Bulgaria good place to live? I received some money and I'd like to start an agricultural business there. Would Bulgarians welcome me to live amongst them?
>>538862146Why not Greece?I think people there would welcome entrepreneurs providing net gains to their economy
>>538862146There's a Bulgarian farmer anon lurking here sometimes. He said its tough business with thin margins and weather can delete your profits
>>538862246Mainly because Bulgaria's living costs are 25% cheaper.
>>538862374It could be true for him personally but there's many different opportunities to make money via agribusiness. Government/EU subsidies are another thing to consider.
>>538862146i am supposed to gatekeep but sofia is the best city to party after berlin>>538862403>>538862246socialist state, so lots of restrictions
>>538862146It's cozy, the only negative i saw was that they have too many gypsies, are you thinking of a certain area?
>>538862403That's quite a lot actually, yeah could just invest that back into the business and grow it faster no pun intended. The most difficult phase is getting set up after all.
>>538862146how much money do you have?
>>538862569>Government/EU subsidies are another thing to considerThat's what he survives on. Doubt a foreign outsider would have a easy time, but anything is possible
foreigners can't own agricultural lands in Bulgariabeautiful countryt. french
>>538862637Haven't thought about certain area, yet.>>538862713Agreed.>>538862747~ one mil €>>538862779Challenges bring nice flavor into life
>>538862845I think this is not true. Bulgaria and Finland are both EU-member states.
>>538863147The Catch: To prevent mass foreign buyouts of farmland, Bulgaria has a strict 5-year residency rule. To buy agricultural land as an individual (or via an EU company), you must have legally resided or been established in Bulgaria for at least 5 years. Have fun working in a call center for 5 years waiting for a villager to hustle you and try to extract 500K for one acre near Haskovoyou don't know anything about Bulgaria bro, they are going to skin you alive stupid nordicu.ck
>>538863300Why would I need to work in a call center when I have one million on my bank account to invest? I also think the mafia era of Bulgaria is over when those data centers start to run in full power. EU is turning into continent-wide surveillance state.
>>538862146You don't need that much money to live comfortably but if you want some luxuries you better pay up. I'm not that knowledgeable in the farmer market but I got some friends who work/run farms and they've told me that it's very unstable. If you don't succeed in the beginning with what you're doing, you won't get anywhere. Land here is also very expensive since most large farmland here is owned by few peoples.
>>538863044its enoughif you want to go rural, bribe the local politicans
>>538863502Thanks for the reply. I just got this idea today out of nowhere and I've been following my intuition pretty much my whole life. I started with nothing and I have made my own fortune so this would be just another thing to conquer for me. We'll see...
>has one mil euros>wants to do farm workFarm biz is not that profitable and very weather dependent.The only reason you'd ever want to do that if you had that money was because you were a prepper expecting mah armageddon and wanted to secure your food.But as a source of profit.. there are way better things.
>>538862146I'm gonna be real, Bulgaria can and has been an absolutely outstanding agricultural powerhouse. The land is extremely fertile.If life's good? Depends but for me not really. I'm one of those Bulgarians that studied abroad but being extremely patriotic went back home out of love for the country and it's culture.The last 10 years I've only gotten more depressed and the real black pill is the mentality around here.The biggest problem in Bulgaria is that Bulgarians are cheap fucks and give the least amount possible. The concept of just doing things right, quality, beauty, just doesn't exist.That's why tourism is failing, people just want a quick buck without any longtime thinking and investment or care to actually give a good service and make something of quality.I can't stress how this translates to EVERY aspect of life here. Infrastructure is the cheapest possible. Worst highways in Europe. Even road pavings in cities it's always the cheapest - concrete unblocks. No natural stone.The gouvernent is extremely corrupt and the general mentality is to cheap out on everything. Art, education. Total disregard for the opinions of professionals.Another example is how the majority of EU funding was used to literally destroy the cultural and architectural heritage of the country. People spend money to install ACs and modern PVC framing and doors on monasteries, old chueches and monuments are getting renovated and basically destroyed with modern cheap materials. That's why UNESCO is removing a the status of several monuments and locations because almost nothing original is left.Almost all old buildings are falling apart and, and and not much is left beside modern housing estates.An extremely dirty country too. People just don't have the basic sense od not throwing their trash on the ground.
>>538864401I understand if a country has a lot of problems because it's poor, but Bulgaria has those problems after billions of EUs and actually a functional economy all things considered... Why? - mentality. You just can't fix that.Also not that cheaper. Pieces have been exploding for the last 5-6 years.A lot of speculation.Man this post reads as a shitshow sorry about that. I'm on vacation visiting a friend.
>>538864520Thank you also for your comprehensive answer. I understand very well that the Bulgarian mental landscape may well be as described. So I think it would not be a bad thing if your beautiful country got some Nordic influences? We Finns are known to be honest people, we do our job well and also mean what we say. Some people consider us naive because of this, but we see it only as honesty that also helps society to function better. I also understand that I cannot change how people behave, but I can at least show by my own example how it is done.
>>538862146You'd fit right in
>>538862845That leaves Romania as an option Agro land is more expensive than in France but there's lots of it
>>538862146>Is Bulgaria good place to live?No. And never was. Never will be.> I received some money and I'd like to start an agricultural business there. Good luck.>Would Bulgarians welcome me to live amongst them?No, but we don't welcome anyone so you'll get used to it.
>>538862146BANGARANGA
>>538862569>Government/EU subsidiesYou are naive Spurdo. Those are reserved for the mafia which consists of former communists and their heirs.
>>538862583>sofia is the best city to partyThe best thing to do in Sofia is pic related. I'm speaking from experience.
>>538866347Her tits are as fake as the report that got us into the eurozone.
>>538865356I will give you my 2cents because my dad wants to start some small scale agro business, mainly tomatoes.Everything is about subsidiessmall scale "start up" farmers get tons of support, then support decays until you become a gigantic landlord which can ride the subsidy train.Specifically speaking about technical agriculture, sunflower, grain etcMore land -> more subsidies -> bigger machines, and the cycle repeats, you basically can not lose after a critical mass of land. If you are more crazy, you can go with crops which need watering, tomatoes watermelons and so on, but you start dealing with water problems (wells) and labor, gypos, which now work in construction and make really good moneythe trend in the countryside is clear everybody to sofia, landlords buy up every peace of land at astronomical prices and a gigantic machines produce dry crops How you fit in is up to youMy recommendation if you want in, is to approach some cooperative and expand their operations
>>538863300I'm about to go invest in Bulgaria. I met a beautiful Bulgarian student in 2008. She was working in Antwerp and going to school. She was an incredibly sweet woman. Just as wholesome as you could imagine. I've always had a very fond opinion of Bulgaria because it reminds me of her. I think one day I shall visit your country and impregnate your women. Where do the sluttiest women in Bulgaria live?
>>538867218>I think one day I shall visit your country and impregnate your womenStay in muttmerica stupid monster
>>538867218>Where do the sluttiest women in Bulgaria live?Germany
>>538867218Пepник, пepник, гpaд пpoчyт...
>>538867280I've already been to your shit hole. It was filled with niggers in 2006. I couldn't imagine how bad it is now.
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>>538867362Did you shart in the mart also? Ugly creatura
>>538867632Show me your hand, brown boy.
>>538862146>>538862845Are these threads coordinated on discord by a tourism agency? It's the tenth time you two post this Bulgaria shit
>>538865356I hate it that i sound so overly negative, it's only because I really love my country that i feel so bad at it's heritage getting destroyed and the shit governments we have and everything.Actually traditionally Bulgarians have been considered very humble honest and hard working rural people, at least talking this is the image from our folklore and what some western travellers like Ami boué write about.I dunno when everything changed but you have to know that socialism period (even though I'm far from the people that would tell you it was all 100% bad) i think really created this mentality of - you don't own anything, so is okay to take (steal) little things in everyday, either workers stealing from the gouvernent factories, either the government stealing from everyone, it's was just a thriving ground for corruption in absolutely everything.I'm sure people like you can help, but also Balkan people in general are very stubborn and don't take on innovation or different concepts (even if better easily.Also hyper individualism here so not really a thought about the shared good, or good for the society. Everyone for himself
>>538862146I'd only consider Serbia in that region. It's a much better place to live.
I spent some time there, and a lot of the locals (both in Sofia/Plovdiv and up in the mountains) were pretty discontent with the state of affairs there; the most common complaint I got was the lack opportunity and sense of stagnation. Some of the little villages I went to were in total and complete disrepair and had maybe 15 people living in them despite there being 70 buildings. Was eerie. That said, I loved the country, but I’m not sure about how it would feel to live there longterm.
>>538862146I’ve been looking at Bulgarian real estate too. The problem is noone has money there. It’s all ruins and gypsy palaces.
>>538869847Build your own palace, gypsy
>>538862146Why not Ukraine?
>>538862246id prefer bulgaria over greece too. op probably allready looked at some nice properties. the weather is way better in bulgaria. the few hundred kilometers more north make a big difference.
